T2 IRC Log: 2005-09-29

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--- Log opened Thu Sep 29 00:00:36 2005
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02:27 < madtux> hello.
02:27 < mnemoc> wb madtux
02:27 < madtux> thx mnemoc
02:27 < morfoh> hey madtux :)
02:27 < madtux> hi morfoh how is it going buddy?
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02:35 < morfoh> madtux: quite good :) thanks ... and on your site ?
02:37 < madtux> things are getting better and better.. i can't complain
02:38 < morfoh> madtux: good to hear ... :)
02:38 < madtux> thank you
02:39 < morfoh> madtux: but you must be in a different world then ... just up's ... no downs :p
02:40 < morfoh> madtux: lucky one :p
02:40 < madtux> i've had several downs in the past weeks.. months..
02:41 < madtux> ut i am not going to let that bring me down.. i am working hard to improve my life
02:41 < madtux> :)
02:41 < morfoh> madtux: fine :)
02:43 < madtux> it has not been easy.. but well... u can't just wait for things to workoput yourself... sometimes u need to work hard.
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06:20 < _Lewellyn> so quiet
06:20 < mnemoc> yep
06:21 < mnemoc> _Lewellyn: if you write fake scripts for shutdown, halt, reboot and wall, please send me the patch :p
06:22 < _Lewellyn> hm. why a fake wall rather than a real one?
06:24 < mnemoc> it's part of sysvinit package
06:24 < mnemoc> feel free to fork it ;)
06:26 < mnemoc> sysvinit mixes to many different tools :\
06:28 < mnemoc> i guess i'll have to fork it
06:29 * mnemoc tired.....
06:29 < mnemoc> gn8 _Lewellyn
06:30 < _Lewellyn> or i could re-write wall(1)
06:30 < _Lewellyn> sleep well
06:31 < mnemoc> bye
08:56 < rxr_> moin
08:57 < rxr_> valentin: we could do another thing for avision - based on T2 embedded Linux - for printer / scan multi function devices ...
08:57 < rxr_> cu later
08:58 < _Lewellyn> hoi rxr
09:07 < rxr_> http://worldwind.arc.nasa.gov/index.html
09:07 < rxr_> hi _Lewellyn
09:09 < valentin> moin
09:11 < rxr_> moin valentin
09:13 < valentin> rxr_: this looks like google earth and is windows only
09:14 < rxr_> valentin: news site claim it is open source
09:14 < rxr_> http://www.proscan.com.au/avision/IT8300.htm
09:15 < rxr_> ^- embedded linux software for this thing - for color laser printer + it8000 multi function devices - network ready and such
09:15 < valentin> it has already ?
09:15 < rxr_> no - it has nothing
09:16 < rxr_> integrators solder s.th. together on their own
09:16 < rxr_> mostly windows
09:16 < rxr_> they want to have a full featured linux sollution ready to sell to the integrators - so they only have to do tweak in favour or soldering their on app. on some windows falvour
09:17 < rxr_> the Iris ORC for Mac does crash our Mac driver btw. ...
09:17 < rxr_> I have a full version in my pocket - and we will get the new version as well - as we will get some easy software scan client software for mac - I fear that one will oncover more issues in the mac driver ... :-(
09:18 < valentin> oha
09:19 < rxr_> well - maybe think what amount of stuff we would like to in the image processing area and what profit one could generate with that
09:19 < valentin> yes, depends on what they pay
09:19 < rxr_> first this linux mac software and then this multi function device base technology
09:19 < rxr_> let's discuss that when I'm back in berlin then ...
09:20 < rxr_> valentin: I do not have a number (yet)
09:20 < rxr_> I'll drive to lauenau tonight - and will drive to berlin either friday evening or saturday morning
09:21 < rxr_> depending how much is left to do on my fathers Linux box ...
09:44 < _Lewellyn> hm. looks like the sysvinit wall will work fine with mnemosyne...
09:45 * _Lewellyn makesit a point to play with it more later, as well as try to figure out how to deal with killall5
10:24 < morfoh_> moin
10:30 < valentin> rxr: who is "pfister again?"
10:31 < valentin> is that the person from archivista ?
10:32 < valentin> he wrote me an sms, that he needs your help
10:40 < rxr_> valentin: ouhm
10:40 < rxr_> yes - archivista
10:40 < rxr_> my cell akku is empty ...
10:48 < valentin> no usb cable ?
10:49 < jsaw> re
10:49 < morfoh_> wb jsaw :)
10:50 < jsaw> hi morfoh_
10:50 -!- morfoh_ is now known as morfoh
10:55 < rxr_> thanks valentin
10:55 < rxr_> called him from the booth phone ...
10:55 < rxr_> all - fine - noting big...
10:57 < _Lewellyn> gah. this sucks. i can't find the page which tells me how to enable my pcmcia slots in linux with this machine :(
10:57 < _Lewellyn> i found it yesterday :(
10:57 < jsaw> ?
10:58 < _Lewellyn> jsaw: my pcmcia isn't working "out of the box" and this appears to be a common issue with this machine in linux
10:59 < morfoh> _Lewellyn: normally you just need pcmcia support within the kernel and pcmcia-cs package afaik
10:59 < morfoh> _Lewellyn: what is the exact error ?
10:59 < _Lewellyn> morfoh: it seems that i at least have the former
10:59 < jsaw> .oO(I'd think pccard is either enabled or not, from bios...)
10:59 < _Lewellyn> no errors
10:59 < _Lewellyn> it seems to see the devices but they aren't actually enabled
11:00 < _Lewellyn> i.e. power lights don't come on, kernel modules don't load, etc.
11:00 < _Lewellyn> but they show up in lspci
11:00 < morfoh> _Lewellyn: check if you have pcmcia-cs package
11:00 < jsaw> do the bus modules load?
11:00 < _Lewellyn> i seem to recall something along the lines of "stick this in modprobe.conf"
11:00 < jsaw> not necessarily pcmcia-cs, pccard might be enough
11:02 < _Lewellyn> but no, i don't seem to have pcmcia-cs, either.
11:02 < _Lewellyn> so it may all be moot
11:03 < _Lewellyn> i guess i'll see if i can port the rest of the sysvinit crap and then get my winmodem driver package built.
11:03 < _Lewellyn> and then i'll start my build again
11:03 < rxr_> no usb cable - it is in berlin on my desk
11:04 -!- You're now known as rxr
11:06 * _Lewellyn dccs a usb cable to rxr
11:11 < CIA-9> jsaw * r12198 /trunk/package/gnome2/gpdf/gpdf.desc: * disable gpdf, evince is the gnome default document viewer now
11:13 < rxr> disable ?
11:13 < jsaw> not sure if I should move it to attic immediately, should I?
11:13 < rxr> no idea
11:14 < rxr> but as long as the version is not too old I would leave it enabled
11:14 < jsaw> it doesn't build...
11:14 < rxr> and only remove it if the gnome freaks decide to drop it ...
11:14 < rxr> jsaw: oh
11:14 < jsaw> the homepage of it shows news entries from 2003
11:14 < rxr> delete I would say
11:14 < rxr> or attic - whateer ...
11:15 < jsaw> the package itself from ftp.gnome.org is 03/07/05
11:17 < _Lewellyn> evince? that's an odd name
11:17 * _Lewellyn wants an emike and ematt and ejane :)
11:17 < jsaw> :D
11:24 < rxr> _Lewellyn: e17 (enlightenment) has e* names ,-)
11:24 < rxr> though of course exact code has as well ,-)(
11:24 < _Lewellyn> rxr: but what kind of name is "vince"? :)
11:26 < rxr> _Lewellyn: I'm not a gnome fan - so no idea ...
11:27 < morfoh> rxr: so exactcode is on the "path" of enlightenment
11:28 < rxr> morfoh: not necessaryly ...
11:35 < rxr> .oO
11:35 < rxr> I should stop demoing the scanner on a windows box ...
11:36 < rxr> it just f*cked up while showing it to people ...
11:36 < rxr> well - windows ...
11:36 < rxr> "... but well - that is why we also have mac and linux drivers ..."
11:43 < CIA-9> chris * r12199 /trunk/package/network/argus/ (. argus-makefile.patch argus.conf argus.desc pcap-bpf.patch): * added argus (2.0.6)
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12:15 < rxr> Asymptote 0.88
12:33 < morfoh> cu
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12:52 < jsaw> _Lewellyn: I found it: http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/
12:54 < _Lewellyn> oh yes. i saw that a couple years back.
12:54 < _Lewellyn> it's "ugly" :)
12:54 < _Lewellyn> matchbox-keyboard is looking fairly nice.
12:54 < _Lewellyn> dasher would make me feel ill, too :)
12:54 < jsaw> tss
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13:00 < Baldzius> moin :)
13:06 < _Lewellyn> jsaw: i'll try to package it, if you think it's useful.
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14:02 < karasz> hi morfoh
14:05 < morfoh> hi karasz
14:10 < _Lewellyn> hoi morfoh and karasz
14:10 < valentin> rxr: here ?
14:10 < karasz> how are you?
14:10 < karasz> hi _Lewellyn
14:10 < _Lewellyn> mnemoc: so, using sysvinit's wall works fine with mnemosyne2.
14:11 < valentin> hi all btw
14:11 < morfoh> hoi hoi _Lewellyn
14:11 < _Lewellyn> and it's 8076 bytes compiled, here
14:11 < _Lewellyn> hoi valentin
14:12 < morfoh> hi valentin ... btw, how are you 2 girls ? long time not heard anything about them ;)
14:13 < valentin> my girls are fine, but the younger girl is quite exhausting sometimes
14:15 < morfoh> valentin: yeah ... I can imagine, but anyway it will not be better if she becomes older ;)
14:18 < _Lewellyn> is mnemoc even awake yet?
14:19 < morfoh> _Lewellyn: I think not yet
14:19 < _Lewellyn> bah. i guess i'll poke him later then.
14:20 < _Lewellyn> i have to head off now.
14:20 < _Lewellyn> back in a few hours.
14:20 < morfoh> _Lewellyn: good luck
14:20 < _Lewellyn> (yay, no sleep again.)
14:24 < jsaw> _Lewellyn: If my aunt does find her speach again I'll setup some small computer with dasher for her...
14:24 < jsaw> s/does/does not/
14:27 < _Lewellyn> jsaw: ok. dasher is on my list of things to package now, then
14:27 < _Lewellyn> i think matchbox-keyboard will be the default though.
14:27 < _Lewellyn> it's more "standard", small, and appealing to the eye.
14:27 < jsaw> url?
14:28 < _Lewellyn> http://projects.o-hand.com/matchbox/
14:30 < jsaw> dasher is anyway more for people with handicaps
14:31 < morfoh> jsaw: a friend of mine uses sayit
14:35 < jsaw> hmm, I somehow feel that dasher resembles more the "reading" experience, esp. for computer illiterates
14:44 < _Lewellyn> morfoh: leave me a url for sayit, and i'll look at that, too.
14:44 * _Lewellyn realizes that if he makes all these packages, t2 will be on its way to being the most "accessible" flavor of linux
14:45 < morfoh> _Lewellyn: sorry ... I have no URL and unfortunately never used it by mysel. it's just a simple command line tool ... try to take a look on freshmeat or so ...
14:46 < _Lewellyn> ok. i'll look later. gotta run now though
14:46 < morfoh> cu _Lewellyn
14:46 < _Lewellyn> bbl
15:08 < rxr> re
15:10 < morfoh> wb rxr
15:16 < valentin> rxr: this archivista guy said, -s 1.5 would cause stripes in the thumpnail, whatever thumpnail he was talking about
15:22 < SerWou> good afternoon
15:23 < morfoh> salut SerWou
15:23 < SerWou> Salut morfoh ;)
15:25 < SerWou> try to make my own t2 today, i'm calling Net-station (chaos) Config ;)
15:26 < morfoh> SerWou: good luck ;)
15:26 < SerWou> "may the force be with me" ;)
15:27 < SerWou> well, it's the first one where i will do a major part of the work
15:27 < morfoh> SerWou: may the SDE be with you :p
15:27 < SerWou> hehe
15:28 < SerWou> i'm running linux since 18 months, time to climb a new step : make my own linux ;)
15:29 < morfoh> SerWou: but remember linux is _just_ the kernel ;)
15:30 < SerWou> my own "system"
15:30 < morfoh> SerWou: sorry for being that pedantic :)
15:30 * morfoh hides
15:30 < SerWou> you're right
15:30 < rxr> valentin: he is taling about the exact image optimze2bw scale mode
15:30 < rxr> valentin: maybe you could communicate with him what problem he has?
15:31 < rxr> valentin: and tell him to send you the copy of the source - snce exact-image HEAD is not what he has
15:31 < SerWou> hello rxr
15:31 < rxr> he has a way older version
15:31 < rxr> and the new one is not cleaned and such - but woulod consfuse him and also is not certified to yield the optimized output as the version he has does
15:31 < morfoh> .oO( now even binutils fails while doing my diet tests on 2.1 with the _dyn_start problem )o
15:33 < rxr> valentin: if you do work on that code you can be sure you get the money for the hours you work on it ... btw. ... just to motifate you ,-)
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15:49 < rxr> hey menomc
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16:49 < rxr> at leat the current change of direction of contract partners matches with my current, new field of study ...
17:00 < rxr> ok - /me leaving soon
17:00 < SerWou> ok /me ;)
17:01 < morfoh> rxr: any quick hints ?
17:01 < morfoh> h(+ei)] [2:#t2(+n)]
17:01 < morfoh> [#t2]
17:02 < morfoh> uhm
17:02 < morfoh> i386-t2-linux-gnudietlibc-gcc -dumpspecs > tmp-specs
17:02 < morfoh> cmd_wrapper: execvp(diet-dyn,...) - No such file or directory
17:02 < morfoh> make[1]: *** [specs] Error 253
17:02 < morfoh> =[1]=> Building base/gcc [3.4.4 2.1-stable].
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17:09 < keinek> hi
17:10 < morfoh> hi keinek
17:15 < mnemoc> moin
17:15 < mnemoc> morfoh: jsaw gave you the hint :)
17:16 < morfoh> moin mnemoc ... oh ... what was it again :\
17:17 < mnemoc> _Lewellyn: of course they work, but i don't want sysvinit ... but i can take some code from it and create two new packages, one for shutdown and friends and one for wall and friends
17:20 < morfoh> mnemoc: besides the fact that I found a problem in one patch ... nothing has changed so far, as you can see :\
17:21 < mnemoc> :(
17:22 < morfoh> yes ... it's a sad story :(
17:23 < mnemoc> i just finished building linux-2.6.11.12-vs-2.0.1-pre2-rkill, which suppose to let vserver stop against runit
17:23 < mnemoc> i hope i have backported properly :p
17:23 < morfoh> me too :)
17:23 < mnemoc> i'll try on qemu first
17:24 < mnemoc> so i'm fetching .gem from build server :\
17:25 < mnemoc> vs-2.0.1-pre2 is for 2.6.13.... and rkill comes from vs-2.1.0-rc2 :p
17:26 < mnemoc> which is also for 2.6.13
17:26 < morfoh> mnemoc: good luck :p
17:26 < mnemoc> at least it compiled :p
17:28 < mnemoc> if that works, i'll try to make a linux-2.6.11.12-vs-2.0.1-pre2-rkill patch to apply over grsec 2.1.6
17:29 < morfoh> mnemoc: lucky one :p
17:29 < mnemoc> i'm pending: socklog.tail, (shutdown & friends), (wall & friends) and bcron.tail
17:29 < mnemoc> but before those i'll do some merges to 2.1
17:29 < morfoh> mnemoc: please don't talk about pending things :|
17:29 < mnemoc> *g*
17:30 < mnemoc> those are my sheba-pendings ;)
17:30 < mnemoc> to finish installing qmail-ldap on two places
17:42 < mnemoc> qemu booted
17:43 < valentin> re
17:43 < mnemoc> wb valentin
17:58 < morfoh> mnemoc: svn diff -r 11370:11371 :|
18:21 < karasz> re hi everybody
18:23 < morfoh> hi karasz
18:25 < karasz> how are you guys?
18:38 < mnemoc> hi karasz
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18:56 < CIA-9> amery * r12200 /trunk/package/gnue/gnue-common/gnue-common.desc: * updated gnue-common (0.6.0 -> 0.6.1)
18:57 < CIA-9> amery * r12201 /trunk/package/gnue/gnue-forms/gnue-forms.desc: * updated gnue-forms (0.5.12 -> 0.5.13)
19:10 < CIA-9> amery * r12202 /trunk/package/gnue/gnue-appserver/gnue-appserver.desc: * updated gnue-appserver (0.4.2 -> 0.4.3)
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19:37 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc3 RELEASED! | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/
19:37 -!- Topic set by vilkacis [] [Sat Sep 17 20:47:59 2005]
19:37 [Users #t2]
19:37 [@vilkacis ] [ Baldzius] [ karasz] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly]
19:37 [ _Lewellyn] [ CIA-9 ] [ mnemoc] [ nzg_] [ SerWou ] [ valentin ]
19:37 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ jsaw ] [ morfoh] [ owl ] [ Shingo--]
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20:36 < minto_> hi folks
20:36 < minto_> ping mnemoc
20:38 < minto_> mnemoc: I am shutting down noisy
20:48 < mnemoc> np
20:48 < mnemoc> wb minto_ ;)
20:49 < mnemoc> i published a t2-minimal x86_64 for rc3 built on your monster mahcine
20:49 < mnemoc> but, as you know, linux24 fails so i couldn't build t2-desktop :(
20:55 < minto_> Sorry, had to put Merlyn to bed.
20:55 < minto_> Nice you succeeded in building a minimal :)
20:56 < minto_> BTW have you changed the password?
20:59 < mnemoc> nope
20:59 < mnemoc> i use my pubkey
20:59 < minto_> .oO
20:59 < mnemoc> i promise :(
20:59 < minto_> Before I shut it down, I couldn't log on
21:00 < mnemoc> tell me when you get it up, and i connect and change it for you
21:00 < minto_> I will, thanks
21:01 < minto_> I hope no one else managed to get access.
21:26 < _Lewellyn> mnemoc: that is what i planned on doing. :)
21:26 < _Lewellyn> and not all of them worked. now i know what code is actually useful :)
21:27 < mnemoc> i just started two 'projects' runit-shutdown and runit-logacct, with shell scripts
21:27 < mnemoc> runlevel is working
21:27 < mnemoc> just looping over /proc
21:28 < mnemoc> later i can re-write some to be .c
21:43 < _Lewellyn> mesg will need to be re-implemented, btw
21:44 < mnemoc> http://svn.geeks.cl/oss/runit-logacct/ http://svn.geeks.cl/oss/runit-shutdown/
21:44 < mnemoc> if you want to play with me, send me an htpasswd hash
21:50 < mnemoc> mesg can be .sh, doesn't it?
21:51 < mnemoc> afaik it's just a chmod
22:24 < _Lewellyn> mesg can be anything.
22:24 < _Lewellyn> however, i can't seem to forbid write
22:25 < mnemoc> but user owns it's tty
22:26 < _Lewellyn> ya, i haven't played too much with that. i was busy trying to figure out how to determine the runlevel :)
22:27 < mnemoc> i did it :p
22:27 < mnemoc> take a look into http://svn.geeks.cl/oss/runit-shutdown/
22:27 < _Lewellyn> i'll look in a bit. gotta figure out why this code i have here at work (unrelated to t2) is not executing sanely
22:28 * _Lewellyn thinks that (test (not (expression))) doesn't work as described in the documentation and he will get to rtfs again.
22:40 < CIA-9> aldas * r12203 /trunk/package/mail/sylpheed/sylpheed.desc: * updated sylpheed (2.0.1 -> 2.0.2)
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23:08 < rxr> re
23:09 < mnemoc> wb rxr
23:09 < rxr> hi mnemoc !
23:09 * rxr back at my parents house ...
23:09 < mnemoc> o.o
23:09 < rxr> why ?
23:10 < mnemoc> i thought you had returned to berlin :)
23:10 < mnemoc> recived with bbq again? ;)
23:11 < rxr> bbq ?
23:11 < rxr> nope - I'm here to finalize my fathers T2 installtion
23:11 < mnemoc> %acronym bbq
23:11 <@vilkacis> mnemoc: bbq could be Barbecue, or Better Be Quick
23:11 < mnemoc> Barbecue :)
23:12 < rxr> before I travel back to berlin - so he can not complain and talk about installing windows anymore
23:12 < mnemoc> :D
23:13 < CIA-9> rene * r12204 /trunk/package/graphic/asymptote/asymptote.desc: * updated asymptote (0.87 -> 0.88)
23:15 < rxr> mnemoc: how are you?
23:16 < mnemoc> fine :)
23:16 < mnemoc> fixing core issues of mnemosyne and fixing sheba, to install two qmail-ldap vservers
23:17 < mnemoc> but gcc/dietlibc is _big_ pain
23:18 < rxr> hm
23:19 < mnemoc> adapted chroot patch is not enough for 3.4.4
23:19 < mnemoc> and without experience finding the new places to patch is not that simple
23:21 < mnemoc> also, i don't understand how to setup qemu networking :\ .... too tired to really read documentation :p
23:21 < rxr> sounds like work for me
23:21 < mnemoc> not yet... enjoy your parents ;)
23:24 < mnemoc> there is any better way to get ppid of processes than greping /proc/$pid/status ?
23:25 < rxr> oehm - have not yet had to code such stuff :-(
23:28 < mnemoc> my dumb script: http://svn.geeks.cl/oss/runit-shutdown/src/runlevel.sh doesn't work always, and it's damn slow
23:29 < mnemoc> does embutils implement ps or there you also need procps?
23:29 < rxr> I see no ps in there
23:30 < rxr> if you need it I can implement a smal version of it tomorrow or so
23:30 < mnemoc> nah ;)
23:30 < rxr> ok - cu tomorrow - I need sleep ,-)
23:30 < mnemoc> i'll use pgrep to find children of pid=1
23:30 < rxr> ;-)
23:30 < mnemoc> sleep well rene
23:31 < mnemoc> :)
23:35 < _Lewellyn> rxr: sleep well :)
23:35 < _Lewellyn> mnemoc: there's probably a better way of getting the ppid...
23:36 < _Lewellyn> i'll look into it after class tonite
23:37 < mnemoc> pgrep -P 1 | sed 's,\(.*\),readlink -f /proc/\1/exe,g' | sh
23:37 < mnemoc> try that
23:39 < _Lewellyn> on my rock system, that gives me the process name
23:39 < mnemoc> o.o
23:39 * _Lewellyn wonders if sh script is the proper way to approach this one....
23:40 < _Lewellyn> and i'm a script fan, mind you :)
23:40 < mnemoc> of course not, i'm just looking for a first implementation
23:40 < _Lewellyn> ok :)
23:40 < mnemoc> i just need to to work
23:40 < mnemoc> it*
23:40 < _Lewellyn> what is the output supposed to be?
23:41 < mnemoc> executables children of init
23:41 < mnemoc> run it as root btw ;)
23:42 < _Lewellyn> i did :)
23:42 < mnemoc> on stage 1 you should see /etc/runit/1 there
23:42 < _Lewellyn> i got the exe names, should i have the pids?
23:42 < mnemoc> on stage 3 /etc/runit/3
23:43 < mnemoc> and on stage 2 runsvdir
23:43 < _Lewellyn> i'd have to boot another machine for that.
23:43 < mnemoc> pgrep gives pids
23:43 < _Lewellyn> my vms are all in use
23:43 < mnemoc> but i want names
23:43 < _Lewellyn> ok
23:43 < _Lewellyn> i got a nice long list of those here :)
23:44 < mnemoc> a list to grep :)
23:44 < _Lewellyn> eh. only 88. not that many
23:44 < mnemoc> kde i guess
23:44 < _Lewellyn> ew. no.
23:44 < _Lewellyn> lots of xterms, shells, and vims. and a bunch of ssh sessions
23:44 < mnemoc> :)
23:45 < _Lewellyn> the only thing i don't recognize is this /usr/opt/gnome24/libexec/gconfd-2
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23:50 < mnemoc> _Lewellyn: look at the new runlevel non-recursive implementation ;)
23:52 < mnemoc> reboot/halt/poweroff is also enough-implemented
23:52 < mnemoc> i'll go for shutdown now
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