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01:26 < mnemoc> morfoh: btw, for Base/Security/IDS.ask i didn't mean libprelude, i mean the whole host-IDS
01:28 < morfoh> what else ?
01:29 < morfoh> what prelude-lml ? <-- but's a sensor
01:29 < mnemoc> what do you need to monitor the local machine?
01:29 < mnemoc> pam, etc...
01:30 < morfoh> pam is prelude aware ;)
01:30 < mnemoc> so libprelude converts the host in prelude-aware?
01:30 < morfoh> yes
01:30 < morfoh> samhain is also nice
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01:31 < morfoh> http://la-samhna.de/samhain/index.html
01:32 < mnemoc> nothing on prelude to do that?
01:32 < morfoh> prelude-lml is capable to process several logs like grsec stc.
01:32 < mnemoc> (file integrity)
01:33 < mnemoc> i would make mnemosyne IDS-capable host to report to another mnemosyne which control IDS reports
01:33 < mnemoc> not 'standalone'
01:34 < morfoh> file integrity checking on a server system is a quite nice thing ;)
01:34 < mnemoc> if i want standalone, i enable the service to 'manage' IDSs
01:34 < morfoh> ack
01:34 < mnemoc> morfoh: of course
01:34 < mnemoc> morfoh: but, what prelude-aware tool does that?
01:35 < morfoh> samhain -> http://la-samhna.de/samhain/s_faq.html
01:35 < mnemoc> good
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01:36 < mnemoc> so samhain will be at Base/Security/IDS.ask with libprelude :p
01:36 < morfoh> good :p
01:37 < morfoh> mnemoc: there is also a special log server for samhain called "yule"
01:38 < mnemoc> IDSs are your field, i just want you to make it consitently
01:39 < morfoh> mnemoc: yes ... but I've to test samhain ... haven't used it yet in production
01:39 < mnemoc> let use it as only as prelude sensor for now
01:39 < morfoh> ack
01:41 < mnemoc> morfoh: http://www.prelude-ids.org/rubrique.php3?id_rubrique=6
01:42 < morfoh> mnemoc: yes ... and ?
01:43 < mnemoc> samhain is listed there as _the_ file integrity package
01:43 < morfoh> yes ... I know 
01:44 < morfoh> we've all but a working libsafe regarding that list 
01:45 < mnemoc> how wants libsafe?
01:45 < mnemoc> who*
01:45 < morfoh> rat says ... he won't neither :)
01:46 < mnemoc> :D
01:57 < mnemoc> can we use socklog to send logs to prelude-lml?
02:02 < Baldzius> :)
02:02 < Baldzius> good night all :)
02:02 < mnemoc> gn8 Baldzius 
02:05 < _Lewellyn> nite Baldzius 
02:05 < mnemoc> brb
02:06 < _Lewellyn> mnemoc: if you're back before i go to class, i've got mnemosyne questions ;)
02:06 < mnemoc> i'll back in about 1h
02:06 < mnemoc> be+
02:07 < _Lewellyn> oh. i'll be in the classroom in 90 mins
02:08 < _Lewellyn> ttyl then :)
03:14 < mnemoc> _Lewellyn: too late?
03:16 < morfoh> mnemoc: I think we can't use socklog sending logs to prelude 
03:17 < mnemoc> morfoh: and can prelude-lml be used to monitor socklog produced files and notify prelude?
03:17 < morfoh> mnemoc: I think this will be easier ;)
03:17 < morfoh> we can split the specific logs 
03:18 < morfoh> i.e. logs which are genrated from grsec 
03:18 < morfoh> but prelude-lml knows quit some patterns
03:18 < mnemoc> svlogd does the rotation, so only current needs to be monitored... but the file is replaced from time to time
03:19 < mnemoc> grsec is an option not always available.... at least you said you don't want grsec at desktops :)
03:19 < morfoh> ack ... not on desktops but n sheba ;)
03:20 < mnemoc> but desktops can be host IDS :)
03:20 < mnemoc> can have*
03:20 < morfoh> mnemoc: there are around 20 log file formats prelude-lml knows about
03:20 < morfoh> and we just have to monitor current
03:20 < morfoh> it can use fam
03:21 < mnemoc> but remember 'current' is a symlink which is repointed on rotation
03:22 < morfoh> you think it will not work with fam ?
03:23 < mnemoc> no idea
03:23 < morfoh> btw, how xan I disable that "--enable-gssapi" is injected as extraconfopt ?
03:23 < mnemoc> var_remove
03:24 < morfoh> the unpacking problems with samhain are past ;)
03:25 < morfoh> mnemoc: yes ... but if I use var_remove extraconfopt " " "--enable-gssapi" the option isn't removed
03:25 < morfoh> configure: error: unrecognized option: --enable-gssapi=/opt/heimdal
03:26 < morfoh> ok I can do a pkgprefix -t heimdal 
03:29 < morfoh> ok I've to sleep
03:29 < morfoh> mnemoc: cu tomorrow :)
03:31 < mnemoc> cu morfoh 
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09:32 < rxr> re
10:12 < valentin> moin
10:16 < rxr> moin valentin 
10:16  * rxr shower
10:16 < rxr> valentin: do you have free minutes today?
10:17 < rxr> could we quickly phone ?
10:20 < valentin> rxr: mom
10:52 < rxr> re
10:53 < Baldzius> good morning :)
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10:58 < rxr> good morning Baldzius 
10:58 < morfoh_> good norning Baldzius rxr valentin + *
11:00 < Baldzius> hi rxr, morfoh_ :)
11:00 < valentin> moin morfi and Baldzius 
11:00 < Baldzius> :)
11:02 < morfoh_> valentin: morfi :)
11:03  * morfoh_ has to move now
11:03 < morfoh_> cu later 
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11:05 < CIA-9> rene * r11895 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnumeric/ (gnumeric.cache gnumeric.desc): 
11:05 < CIA-9> Aldas Nabazas <baldzius@gmail.com>:
11:05 < CIA-9>  * updated gnumeric (1.5.3 -> 1.5.5)
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11:58 < CIA-9> rene * r11896 /trunk/package/network/ipsec-tools/ (compile-fix.patch ipsec-tools.conf ipsec-tools.desc): 
11:58 < CIA-9> Aldas Nabazas <baldzius@gmail.com>:
11:58 < CIA-9>  * updated ipsec-tools (0.6rc1 -> 0.6.1)
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12:30 < morfoh> re
12:31 < morfoh> jsaw: do you have succesfully compiled gcc+SSP using dietlibc yet ?
12:31 < CIA-9> rene * r11897 /trunk/package/network/whois/whois.desc: * updated whois (4.7.6 -> 4.7.8)
12:32 < morfoh> rxr: what can I do that some confopts are not "leaking" into a build ?
12:33 < rxr> morfoh:  ?
12:33 < morfoh> rxr: strangly there are some injected also if they are not supported 
12:34 < rxr> remove them explicitly
12:36 < morfoh> rxr: ack ... I tried to removed i.e. --with-gssapi using var_remove confopt but it seems that var_remove wants to have the full string i.e. --with-gssapi=/opt/heimdal <-- that's a bit cumbersome I think. If I want to remove a confopt it doesn't matter if I inject a path
12:38 < rxr> aehm
12:38 < rxr> var_remove_regex ?
12:39 < rxr> var_remove_regex " " "--with-gssapi.*" ?
12:40 < morfoh> rxr: ok ... I'll try that too ... thx so far master rxr :)
12:43 < rxr> this high speed burner in my new sub-notebook is great - no more waiting like with this 4x apple crap thing in the iBook ...
12:43 < rxr> 24x is great ,-)
12:43 < rxr> faster CPU and faster recorder here on my desk ... - though smalles piece ...
12:43 < rxr> aside the few Mhz/MB Psion Revo
12:43 < morfoh> rxr: welcome to the 21th. century :p
12:45 < valentin> rxr: my comby drive can do up to 24x but then the buffer underruns
12:45 < valentin> realisticaly i can burn up to 12x without errors :/
12:46 < morfoh> btw, wasn't there a possibility within the heimdal package top remove some confopts for a specified package ... ?
12:46 < valentin> with higher speed, the buffer does not underrun because of the cpu but because of this shitty ide bus lockups
12:47 < rxr> valentin: hm
12:47 < rxr> valentin: mail benh ,-)
12:48 < rxr> on my moster sub-notebook the min buf fill @x24 was 97%
12:48 < rxr> writing time of the 6xxMB Archivista CD: 260.695s
12:49 < rxr> ok - only 556MB - 582608896 bytes
12:54 < rxr> scripts/Create-PkgUpdPatch <- has ugly bugs
12:54 < rxr> like inf. loops for some input
13:02 < morfoh> hmmm var_remove regex doesn't solve the issue :\
13:06 < valentin> this f*ck*n' mozilla documentation ... after searching 30 minutes on their website i had to use google to find that one: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/l10n/mlp_howto_Firefox.html
13:09 < morfoh> rxr: ok ... grep is your friend ... I had some syntax problems, but now it fails to build due to SSP
13:09 < morfoh> encode.c: undefined reference to `__guard'
13:09 < morfoh> /tmp/ccZLs9Mb.o(.text+0x1cf):encode.c: undefined reference to `__stack_smash_handler'
13:09 < morfoh> /tmp/ccZLs9Mb.o(.text+0x1b6):encode.c: undefined reference to `__guard'
13:10 < morfoh> rxr: any quick hints that come into your mind ?
13:14 < valentin> so where do i find the german langpack download ?
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13:30 < rxr> mnemoc: you broke the Update script with 11602
13:30  * rxr slapping mnemoc 
13:31 < Baldzius> rxr: how to solve situation when one file belongs to 2 packages?
13:31 < Baldzius> patch or what?
13:32 < rxr> there should not be one flie belonging to multiple packages by design
13:32 < Baldzius> yeah but it is
13:32 < rxr> if this is really a requirements due to alternative systems like lpr vs. a alternative system may be sued
13:32 < rxr> but if it is just strangely choosen filenames in packages those should be patched to be unique
13:32 < Baldzius> i am trying todo elinks package and ir ovewrites one glibc file
13:33 < Baldzius> so should i patch against Makefile?
13:33 < morfoh> rxr: don't slap my chilean companero :p
13:33  * morfoh slapping rxr :)
13:45 < rxr> mnemoc: could you please fix ./scripts/Create-PkgUpdPatch lame 3.70 to not inf. loop?
13:45 < rxr> mnemoc: I do not understand your new code - thus I stop trying to figure out what you want there ...
13:46 < morfoh> rxr: btw, did you tried protector-3.4.4-1 ?
13:47 < rxr> oehm - nope
13:53 < rxr> Gericht: ARD-Wahlberichterstattung nur ohne Microsoft-Logo
13:53 < rxr>  Im Streit um die Einblendung des Microsoft-Logos in der ARD-Wahlberichterstettung ha der Linux-Verband am heutigen Freitag (16. September 2005) beim Landgericht Hamburg eine einstweilige Verf?gung gegen den NDR durchgesetzt. Demnach darf der f?r die ARD-Wahlberichterstattung verantwortliche NDR in den Umfrageergebnissen von infratest dimaap das Logo von Microsoft nicht mehr zeigen. 
13:53 < rxr> ^- cool
13:53 < valentin> hehe
13:54 < rxr> ... Allerdings wurde die einstweilige Verf?gung ohne m?ndliche Verhandlung erlassen, dem NDR stehen Rechtsmittel gegen die Entscheidung zur Verf?gung. ...
13:54 < rxr> :-(
13:54 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0509/40488.html
13:57 < rxr> we should offer to do their technical consulting and the few calculations and get www.t2-project.org into those election graphics ...
14:01 < morfoh> rxr: the you should consult your pggybank first, because the guys from "public" television are "hungry" :)
14:01 < morfoh> piggybank even
14:02 < rxr> huh?
14:02 < rxr> they get technical consulting from microsoft - thus paying them money
14:02 < rxr> then then even display their logo as reference for the "technical consulting"
14:02 < morfoh> haha ... technical consulting ;)
14:02 < rxr> so - either I do it cheaper then microsoft (what a wonder) - or even for free for pr - and deserve the same right to get my logo as reference into that diagram
14:03 < rxr> I will find some old dusty box that can count some numbers for them ...
14:03 < morfoh> one should ask if there was a public bidding process regarding the "technical consulting" :)
14:04 < CIA-9> rene * r11898 /trunk/package/audio/lame/lame.desc: * updated lame (3.96.1 -> 3.97b)
14:07 < morfoh> .oO( oh! on 2.1 we've protector-3.4.4-1 )o
14:16 < nzg> moin
14:16 < rxr> moin nzg 
14:16 < morfoh> moin nzg
14:17 < nzg> i have bad news - since i'm leaving my current employer in a few weeks, i will have to cease mirroring by beginning of october
14:18 < nzg> the administration of that box will not be my responsibility after then
14:21 < morfoh> http://www.corriere.it/Primo_Piano/Esteri/2005/09_Settembre/15/bush.shtml <-- shows G.W.B. during a U.N. meeting asking "Condi" if he can go to a toilette :) ... take a look on the small image gallery 
14:23 < morfoh> nzg: how much t2 related traffic do have on your mirror ?
14:23 < nzg> between 10 and 20 GB / Month
14:24 < nzg> last month 18GB for this month we'Re at 7.5GB
14:25 < morfoh> nzg: ah ok ... unfortunately your mirror was the fastest while downloading from my root server 
14:26 < nzg> yes, the box is quite fast and well connected *g*
14:26 < morfoh> nzg: ack :)
14:30 < morfoh> .oO( with gcc-3.4.4 + protector-3.4.4 samhain builds )o :)
14:34 < morfoh> rxr: I can't test samhain with gcc-4.0.1 atm, can I commit the package anyway ? it would be nice if you could test it if it builds on your machine ?
15:07 < rxr> muah ha ha ha ...
15:07 < rxr> thanks morfoh - you made my day!
15:07 < rxr> morfoh: yeah - commit it ...
15:07 < morfoh> oh! what have I done ? 
15:07 < rxr> brought great news about our mighty leader
15:08 < morfoh> rxr: our ... ??? ;)
15:08 < rxr> our all - amaerica == world's police or so ..
15:08 < morfoh> rxr: I was just wondering about GWB's cacography
15:09 < morfoh> rxr: ok .. not really. we all know that he has some reading problems too
15:10 < morfoh> rxr: in some interview his mom said that she had allways problems teaching him proper writing and reading 
15:11 < morfoh> and that there are problems within family B. regarding dyslexia
15:11 < morfoh> ok ... back to work :p
15:13 < CIA-9> rene * r11899 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/etc/hotplug.d/default/90-backup.hotplug: 
15:13 < CIA-9> * vastly improved archivista/.../90-backup.hogtplug, including missing
15:13 < CIA-9>  code snipplets, logging all stdout and stderr into /var/log/hot.log
15:13 < CIA-9>  and improved error detection for missing encryption keys
15:16 < CIA-9> chris * r11900 /trunk/package/security/samhain/ (. samhain.conf samhain.desc): * added samhain (2.0.9)
15:17 < rxr> seems there are big problems with the overall IQ in this family as well
15:17 < morfoh> indeed :)
15:18 < rxr> some days I wonder he has 20 or 10 ...
15:19 < CIA-9> chris * r11901 /trunk/package/security/heimdal/pkg_samhain_post.conf: * added pkg_samhain_post.conf to remove "--enable-gssapi" to properly build samhain if we have heimdal support
15:20 < morfoh> rxr: ok ... that's it regarding samhain. at least for the moment ;)
15:24 < rxr> l
15:28 < CIA-9> rene * r11902 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/network-status.sh: 
15:28 < CIA-9> * fixed archivista/network-status.sh to not cut off the last number of
15:28 < CIA-9>  the ip address and netmask ,-)
15:28 < rxr> 12000 soon ,-)
15:29 < morfoh> :)
15:42 < CIA-9> chris * r11903 /trunk/package/security/samhain/samhain.conf: * added the removal of not supported configure options
16:22 < mnemoc> moin
16:22 < mnemoc> i'll review ./scripts/Create-PkgUpdPatch now
16:23 < mnemoc> <morfoh> /tmp/ccZLs9Mb.o(.text+0x1cf):encode.c: undefined reference to `__stack_smash_handler' <--- diet?
16:23 < mnemoc>  <morfoh> .oO( oh! on 2.1 we've protector-3.4.4-1 )o <--- is that a problem?
16:24 < mnemoc> rxr: we are about to double the other project :)
16:25 < mnemoc> rxr: did you saw my error with pie and 1-glibc?
16:25 < mnemoc> s/saw/see/
16:28 < CIA-9> rene * r11904 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/sbin/init.d/system: 
16:28 < CIA-9> * make sure the modules sg and st are loaded during archivista startup
16:28 < CIA-9>  (should work out of the box in vanilla T2 with HEAD hotplug++ ...)
16:28 < mnemoc> rxr: i'll automatize .init installations today (misc/tail)
16:30 < rxr> mnemoc: yes - and please comment your pattern generation in that Patch script - I have not reverse engeneered complete what you meant there ...
16:30 < rxr> mnemoc: feel free to automate .init installations ,-)
16:30 < rxr> mnemoc: no - I did not see your pie 1-glibc ...
16:30 < rxr> guess glibc is best left alone regarding pie or as-needed ...
16:32 < morfoh> mnemoc: moin moin ;) gcc-3.4.4 + protector-3.4.4 was the _solution_ for solving my problem ;)
16:32 < mnemoc> ok*4
16:32 < mnemoc> morfoh: but you have diet problems with gcc-3.4.4
16:33 < morfoh> mnemoc: initial samhain support is available ;)
16:33 < morfoh> mnemoc: yes ... on diet I've problems
16:34 < CIA-9> chris * r11905 /trunk/package/security/samhain/samhain.conf: * added check for postgresql support
16:34 < mnemoc> rxr: i386-t2-linux-gnu/bin/ld: -r and -shared may not be used together  <--- this was the problem on gcc. crt.o file is created using -r.
16:36 < morfoh> mnemoc: but atm. samhain is compiled working in "standalone" mode
16:36 < morfoh> mnemoc: there is an option where we can choose to run it as client or as server 
16:37 < mnemoc> morfoh: runtime options are not a problem for the SDE
16:37 < morfoh> mnemoc: it's a config option
16:38 < mnemoc> oh
16:38 < mnemoc> config.in :(
16:38 < morfoh> mnemoc: http://la-samhna.de/samhain/manual/yule.html
16:42 < morfoh> mnemoc: can't we use .choice ? in Base -> standalone|client and enabling the server support in Services if needed ?
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16:42 < owl> hi
16:42 < morfoh> owl: bonjour madame ;)
16:42 < mnemoc> morfoh: on mnemosyne, yes. but the SDECFG thing has to exist, and that is part of samhaim/config.in
16:42 < mnemoc> owlita!
16:43 < owl> hi morfoh, mnemoc ;)
16:43 < morfoh> owlita sounds also nice :)
16:45 < morfoh> mnemoc: ok ... then I'll add a config.in choosing standalone as default and client|server optional
16:48 < morfoh> mnemoc: I'll move default prefix to opt/samhain too
16:52 < CIA-9> rene * r11906 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/backup.sh: 
16:52 < CIA-9> * hide mysql stop/start in archivista/backup.sh, since the escape
16:52 < CIA-9>  sequences leave ugly garbage in the Xdialog, rescan for scsi
16:52 < CIA-9>  devices in the same script
16:53 < mnemoc> rxr: ./scripts/Create-PkgUpdPatch lame 3.70  doesn't inf loop here :\
16:53 < CIA-9> rene * r11907 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/.fluxbox/menu: * added -r to remove scsi devices during archivista -> rescan scsi bus
16:54 < rxr> mnemoc: are you at head ?
16:55 < morfoh> mnemoc: http://la-samhna.de/samhain/manual/stealthmode.html <-- also interesting option. I guess there will be a lot more options "leaking" into config.in ;)
16:55 < mnemoc> rxr: svn blame
16:55 < mnemoc>  11602      amery                       fi
16:55 < mnemoc>  11820      amery                       pattern="$pattern\.\?[^\.]*"
16:55 < mnemoc>  11602      amery               done
16:55 < rxr> I mean head of lame ,-)
16:55 < mnemoc> 11820 solved an inf loop.... do you have that one?
16:55 < rxr>  svn up
16:55 < rxr> U    config.in
16:55 < rxr> G    Create-PkgUpdPatch
16:55 < rxr> U    Create-CopyPatch
16:55 < rxr> Updated to revision 11907.
16:55 < rxr> ouhm
16:56 < mnemoc> -[V] 3.96.1
16:56 < mnemoc> +[V] 3.70
16:56 < mnemoc> *g*
16:57 < rxr> well - ok - HEAD seems to work
16:57 < rxr> sorry - though I was @ HEAD
16:57 < rxr> anyway - could you add comments to that pattern generation magic sss
16:57 < rxr> ? even
16:57 < mnemoc> is it really cryptic?
16:57 < mnemoc> ok, i'll do
17:00 < morfoh> mnemoc: ok ... I guess we can start to move the Host related IDS stuff to Base/Security
17:01 < mnemoc> morfoh: it's all yours, but remember. i single ask to enable a complete host-IDS feature
17:01 < mnemoc> a single ask*
17:02 < CIA-9> rene * r11908 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/backup.sh: * rewind and eject the tape after a backup in archivista/backup.sh
17:02 < morfoh> mnemoc: ok ... then I'll put samhain+libprelude related stuff in there
17:02 < mnemoc> thanks :)
17:02 < morfoh> mnemoc: yw :)
17:04 < CIA-9> rene * r11909 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/backup.sh: 
17:04 < CIA-9> * only eject the tape after a successful backup, redirect all stderr
17:04 < CIA-9>  to the stdin of Xdialog, in archivista/backup.sh
17:05 < morfoh> mnemoc: should I also add prelude-lml ?
17:06 < morfoh> mnemoc: into Base/Security/ids.ask
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17:31 < morfoh> ok ... mes dames et monsieurs. moving home now. cu later :)
17:31 < rxr> cu
17:31 < mnemoc> cu morfoh 
17:31 < rxr> though I'll be in the cinema later on
17:31 < morfoh> rxr: btw, did you tested samhain on gcc4 ?
17:32 < rxr> no ,-)
17:32 < morfoh> rxr: you'll not go in the cinema before you tested this nice package ;)
17:32 < morfoh> ok ... bye bye
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17:39 < rxr> this f*ck CUPS junk
17:39 < rxr> one recompile and now it doesn't work on my RS6K anymore ...
17:39 < mnemoc> o.o
17:39 < rxr> damn f*ck crap s*it ...
17:40 < rxr> after windows in the past, cups is nowaways what wasts _most_ of my time - seldom saw such annoying software
17:41 < CIA-9> amery * r11910 /branches/mnemoc/2.1-scripts-nt/ (Check-PkgVersion Download functions): 
17:41 < CIA-9> * merged 10696,10767 from trunk: added zip auto-extraction and custextract
17:41 < CIA-9> * merged 11205 from trunk: added tbz as a valid tarbz2 file ending
17:42 < rxr> click on config now even reviels:
17:42 < rxr> Error: 
17:42 < rxr> server-error-internal-error
17:43 < mnemoc> .oO
17:45 < mnemoc> rxr: any name proposal for rc3?
17:45 < mnemoc> 'better than cups' :D
17:46 < rxr> yeah ...
17:48 < CIA-9> amery * r11911 /branches/mnemoc/2.1-scripts-nt/functions: * merged 10742 from trunk: fixed get_expanded to also work on bash 2.x
18:06  * rxr off - cu
18:12 < mnemoc> cu rxr 
18:15 < mnemoc> rxr: http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/mirror/t2/stable/2.1.0-rc3/t2-desktop/ <--- look at the dates
18:20 < sparc-kly> 03-Jan-1998 
18:21 < sparc-kly> :D
18:46  * mnemoc needs a name for rc3
18:46 < mnemoc> http://www3.t2-project.org/Members/amery/announce/2.1.0-rc3
19:10 < sparc-kly> cubex 
19:10 < sparc-kly> :D
19:10 < sparc-kly> flexbox 
19:12 < mnemoc> .oO
19:37 < CIA-9> amery * r11912 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/system.init: * changed system.init to swapon _after_ enabling LVM devices
19:41 < valentin> re
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20:30 < morfoh> re hi
20:30 < morfoh> :\
20:31 < owl> wb morfoh 
20:31 < morfoh> hola owlita :)
20:32 < CIA-9> amery * r11913 /trunk/package/base/socklog/socklog.desc: * updated socklog (2.0.1 -> 2.0.2)
20:32 < mnemoc> *g*
20:32 < morfoh> :)
20:36 < mnemoc> morfoh: custextract was merged to my branch of 2.1/script
20:38 < morfoh> mnemoc: arrrrrriba ...... :)
20:38 < CIA-9> amery * r11914 /branches/2.1/package/base/sysfiles/system.init: * merged 11912 from trunk: * changed system.init to swapon _after_ enabling LVM devices
20:39 < mnemoc> .oO( where does that 'arriba' thing comes from? )
20:40 < morfoh> mnemoc: speedy gonzales ? 
20:40 < _Ragnar_> *hrhr*
20:40 < morfoh> hi _Ragnar_ 
20:40 < _Ragnar_> hey morfoh :)
20:41 < mnemoc> morfoh: :D
20:41 < mnemoc> morfoh: now i remember... "andale andale andale" "arriba arriba arriba"
20:41 < morfoh> mnemoc: ack :D
20:41 < mnemoc> hi _Ragnar_ 
20:42 < _Ragnar_> hey mnemoc ;)
20:43 < mnemoc> it's impresive to see the difference between building on a P4/3.0/512/ata133 and a P4/3.0/512/SATA 
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20:44 < morfoh> mnemoc: I/O :)
20:44 < mnemoc> 1-linux26 was about 50% shorter
20:44 < mnemoc> same for 1-glibc
20:45 < morfoh> mnemoc: I can imagine
20:46 < morfoh> == 20:41:28 =[5]=> Building security/samhain [2.0.9 2.1-stable].
20:46 < morfoh> == 09/16/05 20:42:43 =[5]=> Finished building package samhain.
20:53 < CIA-9> amery * r11915 /branches/2.1/package/base/coreutils/cross-df-hack.patch: * merged 9777 from trunk: hacked coreutils/df to compile cross
20:58 < mnemoc> morfoh: please take a look at http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/diff/iptables.diff.txt and http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/diff/iproute2.diff.txt
20:58 < mnemoc> morfoh: i'm about to merge that to 2.1
21:01 < morfoh> oh!
21:01 < morfoh> mom
21:05 < morfoh> looks good afaics 
21:07 < morfoh> mnemoc: at least we're on a way in slightly improving our network config :)
21:07 < mnemoc> slightly
21:11 < CIA-9> amery * r11916 /branches/2.1/package/base/sysvinit/ (config-720.hlp config-720.in config.hlp config.in): * merged 11749 from trunk: changed sysvinit's config to be run between linux and the rest and config.hlp adapted to current var names
21:11 < morfoh> mnemoc: I'll do a bit samhain improving  and beautyfication now, and after that I'd like to merge it to 2.1 ... if you have nothing against it
21:13 < mnemoc> you can't merge it to 2.1 yet because it depends on custextract
21:13 < morfoh> mnemoc: ah! ok ... forgot that :\
21:18 < CIA-9> amery * r11917 /branches/2.1/package/java/classpath/classpath.desc: * merged 11609 from trunk: updated classpath (0.17 -> 0.18)
21:22 < CIA-9> amery * r11918 /branches/2.1/package/network/ppp/rocknet_ppp.sh: * merged 9491 from trunk: changed rocknet/ppp to send chat messages to stderr
21:23 < CIA-9> chris * r11919 /branches/2.1/package/security/libprelude/libprelude.desc: * merged 11815: updated libprelude (0.9.0-rc14 -> 0.9.0-rc15)
21:23 < mnemoc> morfoh: will they stop doing rc-s some day?
21:24 < morfoh> mnemoc: I think they will do some day :)
21:25 < morfoh> mnemoc: I'll ask yoann 
21:26 < mnemoc> morfoh: there can be a 0.9.{1,2,3,...} in future :)
21:26 < morfoh> mnemoc: btw, did we stop doing rc-s some day  :p
21:26 < mnemoc> i need a name for rc3
21:26  * morfoh hides
21:27 < mnemoc> and people trying it!
21:27 < morfoh> mnemoc: I guess we should consult wikipedia again :)
21:29 < CIA-9> chris * r11920 /branches/2.1/package/security/prelude-lml/prelude-lml.desc: * merged 11834: updated prelude-lml (0.9.0-rc5 -> 0.9.0-rc6)
21:31 < CIA-9> amery * r11921 /branches/2.1/package/x11/wmacpi/ (makfile-install.patch prefix.patch wmacpi.desc): * merged 9732 from trunk: updated wmacpi (1.34 -> 2.1)
21:35 < morfoh> mnemoc: do we wanna hide Service/Security/IDS if Basa/Security/IDS is off ? 
21:38 < mnemoc> morfoh: i would make it force instead of depend
21:38 < morfoh> mnemoc: ack
22:11 < valentin> why the hell aren't there any langpacks for firefox > 0.8 ??
22:12 < morfoh> valentin: hi
22:12 < morfoh> valentin: afaik you have to select the  lang at build time :\
22:13 < valentin> but why did the introduce this regression ?
22:13 < valentin> until 9.0 you could just copy a langpack
22:13 < mnemoc> valentin: what about an SDECFG_LANGUAGE?
22:13 < valentin> mnemoc: that would suck, too
22:13 < valentin> i want multi language support
22:14 < mnemoc> SDECFG_LANGUAGE would suck lots less
22:14 < valentin> but imagine we had to create multiple t2 iso's like 2.1-rc3-de_DE etc ...
22:15 < mnemoc> no, t2-ISOs will be en_US
22:15 < mnemoc> but valentin could build de_DE ones
22:16 < valentin> yeah ... would be a nice thing to have for such shitty software like mozilla
22:16 < valentin> i mean, we are in the 21st century - who hardcodes languages in applications ?
22:17 < mnemoc> their software, their decitions
22:17 < mnemoc> fork it :)
22:17 < valentin> hehe
22:17 < mnemoc> openoffice is the same kind of crap
22:17 < valentin> t2fox
22:17 < valentin> mnemoc: ooo is even worse ... :/
22:18 < mnemoc> Exactzilla
22:19 < mnemoc> and exactoffice
22:25 < valentin> nah...
22:25 < valentin> i guess rxr will do that one day
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23:31 < CIA-9> amery * r11922 /branches/2.1/package/ (5 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
23:31 < CIA-9> * merged 8640 from trunk: added a simple 'conduit' option to rocknet/iptables
23:31 < CIA-9> * merged 9833 from trunk: changed rocknet/gw to 'append' routes instead of 'add'
23:31 < CIA-9> * merged 9830,9831,9834 from trunk: changed rocknet/{iproute2,iptables} to work considering previously defined $ip. ip-less ruless are applied at the end.
23:31 < CIA-9> * merged 9835 from trunk: changed rocknet/masquerade to use SNAT via $ip if it's set. and MASQUERADE if it's not set.
23:31 < CIA-9> * merged 10211,10287,10759 from trunk: update iptables (1.3.1 -> 1.3.3) - and cosmetical changed and marked +DIETLIBC and -NOPARALLEL
23:31 < CIA-9> * merged 11339 from trunk: improved rocknet/iptables to control FORWARD chain and added 'restrict' command
23:34 < CIA-9> amery * r11923 /branches/2.1/package/x86/cpuburn/cpuburn.desc: * merged 1057 from trunk: fixed cpuburn filename to be recognized by autoextract
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