T2 IRC Log: 2005-08-24

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--- Log opened Wed Aug 24 00:00:00 2005
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01:10 < CIA-9> chris * r11233 /trunk/package/security/beecrypt/ (. beecrypt.conf beecrypt.desc): * added beecrypt (4.1.2)
01:20 < CIA-9> amery * r11234 /trunk/package/database/sqlite/sqlite.desc: * updated sqlite (3.2.2 -> 3.2.3)
01:22 < _Ragnar_> why do we use gstreamer 0.9 when most gst- packages expect 0.8?
01:22 < mnemoc> i have 0.8 on 2.1 :)
01:22 < mnemoc> svn blame
01:26 < _Ragnar_> ok
01:26 < morfoh> good night folks
01:26 < morfoh> cu tomorrow
01:33 < mnemoc> cu morfoh
01:34 < _Ragnar_> mtr
01:34 * _Ragnar_ blames!
01:34 < CIA-9> chris * r11235 /trunk/package/security/beecrypt/beecrypt.conf:
01:34 < CIA-9> * addded check if we should enable beecrypt's Java support
01:34 < CIA-9> * solved: Issue #82
01:34 < morfoh> ;)
01:34 < mnemoc> morfoh: works?
01:34 < morfoh> yep
01:34 < mnemoc> :)
01:35 < morfoh> I wouldn't commit it then ;)
01:35 < morfoh> ok ... finaly good night
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01:55 < CIA-9> ragnar * r11236 /trunk/package/gnome2/gstreamer/gstreamer.desc:
01:55 < CIA-9> * downgrade gstreamer from 0.9 to 0.8.10 again, since the packages that require this
01:55 < CIA-9> package do not work with 0.9.
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01:56 < mnemoc> :)
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05:18 < keinek> hi
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05:21 < mnemoc> hi keinek
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06:42 < morfoh> moin
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06:48 < Shingo--> moin
06:49 < morfoh> hey Shingo-- ... how you doing ? still awake ?
06:50 < morfoh> Shingo--: you know the meaning of "Moin moin" ?
06:52 < Shingo--> oh yeah, iI'm already knwon
06:52 < [Kosh]> moin
06:52 < morfoh> :)
06:52 < Shingo--> Kosh known too. :)
06:52 < morfoh> moin [Kosh] :)
06:52 < [Kosh]> :)
06:53 < Shingo--> morfoh: /me Kosh's Brother
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06:54 < morfoh> I just wondering about how international such a special word from northern germany is :)
06:54 -!- [Kosh] [n=kosh_nar@201.36.98.165] has joined #t2
06:55 < Shingo--> morfoh: what you mean? T2?
06:55 < morfoh> Shingo--: ah! Shingo + [Kosh] = brothers <--- that means familly business
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06:55 < morfoh> :)
06:55 < morfoh> Shingo--: no! I mean the word "moin"
06:56 < Shingo--> oh yeah. we are working now. at 1:54 am :)
06:56 < [Kosh]> :)
06:56 < morfoh> Shingo--: ok ... your point :)
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06:57 < morfoh> Shingo--: where are you both brothers from ?
06:57 < Shingo--> morfoh: the word is a germany creation?
06:57 < Shingo--> Brazil
06:57 < Shingo--> Sorry, a like Brasil :)
06:58 < Shingo--> Brazil is wrong for me. ;)
06:58 < morfoh> Shingo--: yes ... "Moin moin" is used by people from northern germany to say "Good morning"
06:59 < morfoh> Shingo--: mostly from people living at the sea coast
06:59 < [Kosh]> morfoh: ok.
07:00 < morfoh> Shingo--: why you don't like brazil ?
07:00 < [Kosh]> moin. :)
07:00 < Shingo--> the word brazil. for the right "way" is Brasil :)
07:00 < morfoh> Shingo--: or did I misunderstood ?
07:01 < [Kosh]> morfoh: Shingo was think it is moin = good MOrnINg
07:01 < Shingo--> Oh, I think not.
07:01 < morfoh> Shingo--: ah! ic!
07:01 < Shingo--> I'm already known it, rxr told me. ;)
07:02 < morfoh> aha! this rxr did the intercultural exchange ;)
07:04 < rxr> re
07:05 < morfoh> aha! there he is :)
07:05 < morfoh> moin moin rxr :)
07:07 < rxr> moin .-)
07:07 < rxr> what are you speaking about ?
07:08 < Shingo--> :)
07:09 < Shingo--> we talk about the word "moin" :)
07:13 < Shingo--> rxr: did you see my patch to fmnewscript, I was think how that work's before?
07:13 < Shingo--> AFAIK th "-" must be the first in list "[]" to get "-".
07:16 < morfoh> ok ... guys I'll sneak to work now ... cu later
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08:35 < Shingo--> why ccache create a lot of directory like ccache-x86-*
08:35 < Shingo--> why the system not use same cache?
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08:38 < morfoh> re hi
08:43 < rxr> welcome morfoh
08:44 < morfoh> thanks master rxr :9
08:44 < morfoh> :)
08:45 < morfoh> rxr: btw, did you asked susann regarding dinner/bbq possibilities ?
08:45 < morfoh> rxr: but I guess a bbq will not be a good idea while having such kind of weather here in B town
08:50 < rxr> yes - I told here about the dinner and bbq ...
08:50 < rxr> she liked both ideas
08:52 < morfoh> rxr: just drop me a note what time would best fit for you both. we shouldn't move it that far away in the future ;)
08:53 < morfoh> rxr: btw, any things to think about regarding merging current inkscape to 2.1 branch ?
08:55 < rxr> morfoh: I have not tested them in any combination ...
08:55 < rxr> test build and commit or so ...
08:56 < morfoh> rxr: what combination do you mean ?
08:56 < morfoh> I'll update 0.41 -> 0.42 first and testing it
09:06 < rxr> avision.c:5789: error: called object is not a function
09:06 < rxr> ouhm
09:07 < rxr> every day a new interesting diagnostic from gcc ...
09:07 < Baldzius> good morning people :)
09:07 < morfoh> moin moin Baldzius
09:07 < morfoh> :)
09:08 < rxr> yeah - moin Baldzius
09:08 < Baldzius> moin to all :)
09:08 < Baldzius> it is nice day for science , i mean t2 :)
09:09 < morfoh> Baldzius: everyday is a nice day for t2 :)
09:09 < Baldzius> if there are no build errors :)
09:11 < morfoh> Baldzius: it would be boring if there wouldn't be some problems around .... ehrrm :)
09:11 < _Ragnar_> nini
09:12 < rxr> n8 _Ragnar_
09:12 < Baldzius> morfoh: :)
09:12 < morfoh> good night to SD _Ragnar_ :)
09:12 < _Ragnar_> :) thanks :)
09:12 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: sleep well :)
09:24 < Shingo--> rxr: why the problem with the package. kde-i18n-fr
09:24 < Shingo--> pkgsel has
09:24 < Shingo--> kde* and kde/*
09:24 < Shingo--> do you have any idea?
09:30 < rxr> what problem =
09:30 < Shingo--> when I put in config/$config/pkgsel O kde-i18n-fr the package do not enter in list
09:30 < Shingo--> sorry, maybe can you understand now?
09:32 < rxr> no
09:32 < Baldzius> i understood but dont know the answer :)
09:36 < Baldzius> ahhh
09:36 < Baldzius> you should put X not O :)
09:37 < Baldzius> X kde*
09:38 < Baldzius> if i get question right
09:41 < rxr> yes X == enable O == disable
09:49 < Baldzius> why there is difference between X kde* && X kde/*
09:49 < Baldzius> even with X kde/* i see kde packages with O
09:49 < Baldzius> like kdewebdev
09:50 < Baldzius> ups sorry, wrong config :))))
09:50 < Baldzius> damn i have 6 terminals running
09:51 < Baldzius> i just got myself lost
10:54 < valentin> moin
10:55 < rxr> where DOS was a help - one console should be enough for everyone
10:55 < rxr> moin valentin
10:55 < morfoh> moin papa valentino :)
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11:00 < valentin> moin rxr and morfoh
11:01 < rxr> avision.c | 168 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---------------
11:01 < rxr> ouhm - I'll have much fun debugging this avision example code drop derived accel table construction code ...
11:02 < rxr> took me 1 1/2 hours to write this nice C code out of their windows driver junk ...
11:02 < rxr> unbelievable what some people manage to construct ...
11:03 < rxr> I saw too many binary only drivers in my life to know why I do not wanna run them on my CPUs ...
11:03 < morfoh> .oO( /me likes how rxr likes to complain about the programming "skills" of other people :)
11:04 < rxr> morfoh: if you want to fall from your chair I could send you the code ... when you sign a NDA ...
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11:05 < morfoh> rxr: no no ... thank you ... I just had a picture in mind how you're sitting on your chair and complaining about it :)
11:12 < rxr> Committed revision 268.
11:12 < rxr> ^- in the case you want to review my claened code extracted from their code drop ...
11:14 < morfoh> rxr: have you seen sth. similar yet ?
11:14 < morfoh> (inkscape:10245): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported
11:14 < rxr> oehm
11:14 < rxr> nope
11:14 < rxr> valentin: are you in some position to test sane-avision/trunk HEAD under Linux with the 610cu ?
11:15 < rxr> would be interesting to know how it reacts with the new acceleration table generation
11:17 < valentin> rxr: i will try to build it
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11:19 < rxr> it will built - the question is if the 610cu likes the accel table generated by my new code "inspired" from the avisoin code drop
11:26 < morfoh> Inkscape encountered an internal error and will close now. <-- happy segfaulting
11:26 < morfoh> :/
11:29 < valentin> valentin ist nur mal kurz Windel wechseln
11:34 < morfoh> valentin: good luck :)
11:45 < rxr> cmd
11:52 < valentin> re
11:52 < valentin> well, i had back luck :/
11:52 < valentin> she is quite sick
11:52 < morfoh> valentin: oh! what's wrong with little Janna ?
11:53 < valentin> perhaps she drunk to much... she was emptying her whole stomach in both directions
11:54 < valentin> rxr: what sane version shall i test with ?
12:12 < rxr> oehm
12:12 < rxr> 1.0.16 and inject my avision files ...
12:12 < rxr> avision.c and .h are enough
12:14 < rxr> cmd
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12:26 < valentin> cmd what ?
12:29 < rxr> wrong keyboard ...
12:29 < rxr> was supost to run on windows ...
12:34 < valentin> rxr, morfoh : tonight at 20:45:48 there will be a -7 magnitude iridium flare over berlin
12:35 < morfoh> valentin: oh!
12:35 < morfoh> guys ... I have to move away now ... cu later
12:35 < valentin> cu later
12:35 < valentin> magnitude -7 is 11 times brighter than venus
12:39 < morfoh> bye bye
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13:20 < rxr> got my Turion sub-notebook
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13:20 [Users #t2]
13:20 [ [Kosh] ] [ dsoul ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly|univ]
13:20 [ _Ragnar_] [ dsoul_] [ mtr_ ] [ SerWou ] [ valentin ]
13:20 [ CIA-9 ] [ jsaw ] [ nzg ] [ Shingo--]
13:20 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
13:20 < rxr> hi [Kosh]
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13:27 < Shingo--> rxr: kosh is sleeping. :)
13:27 < Shingo--> rxr sorry for that time.
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13:31 < Shingo--> the problem was, the package kde-i18n-fr with rules
13:31 < Shingo--> [snip]
13:31 < Shingo--> O kde*
13:31 < Shingo--> O kde/*
13:31 < Shingo--> [snip]
13:31 < Shingo--> it would be remove from Emerge/Build-Target list right?
13:31 < Shingo--> no one package has your depencie in list.
13:31 < Shingo--> But only if include the rule O kde-i18n-fr too, it's work.
13:31 < Shingo--> Am I clear now?
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13:33 < rxr> you mean O kde/* and O kde* do not deselect kde-i18n-fr ?
13:33 * rxr sortly of getting lunch stuff ...
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14:48 < Shingo--> rxr: that's it.
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14:51 < morfoh> short re hi
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15:01 < valentin> rxr: using xscanimage i get "error during device IO"
15:01 < rxr> valentin: aren't you in AH today ?
15:03 < Shingo--> rxr: did you see my reply?
15:03 < Shingo--> should do I open a ticket?
15:03 < rxr> Shingo--: best open a ticket
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15:07 < valentin> rxr: no, 'll be tomorow
15:23 < rxr> ic
15:23 < rxr> valentin: well - I review your hang later, ok =
15:23 < rxr> ? even
15:24 < valentin> rxr: you could log into my machine
15:25 < valentin> just tell me when to reset the scanner :)
15:25 < rxr> ok - but later
15:26 < morfoh> cu guys
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16:00 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc2 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | BT http://torrent.t2-project.org/
16:00 -!- Topic set by vilkacis [] [Tue Aug 9 23:45:30 2005]
16:00 [Users #t2]
16:00 [ [Kosh] ] [ dsoul ] [ morfoh] [ rxr ] [ Shingo-- ] [ valentin]
16:00 [ _Ragnar_] [ jsaw ] [ mtr_ ] [ rxr_ ] [ sparc-kl1 ]
16:00 [ CIA-9 ] [ menomc] [ nzg ] [ SerWou] [ sparc-kly|univ]
16:00 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal]
16:00 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
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16:01 < CIA-9> amery * r11237 /trunk/package/security/vserver/vserver.conf: * fixed vserver (util-vserver) by removing CC=gcc and friendly from makeopt/makeinstopt because if dietlibc is found it's configure does things and set CC to use diet.
16:04 < CIA-9> amery * r11238 /trunk/package/security/vserver/ (vserver.conf vserver.desc): * changed vserver to only build cq-tools addon, because the others are part of util-vserver now
16:05 < rxr_> moin menomc
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16:06 < mnemoc> moin rxr_
16:06 < CIA-9> amery * r11239 /trunk/package/gnome2/nautilus-cd-burner/nautilus-cd-burner.conf:
16:06 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis :
16:06 < CIA-9> * fixed nautilus-cd-burner to find pkg-config
16:10 < CIA-9> amery * r11240 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-volume-manager/hal50.patch:
16:10 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis :
16:10 < CIA-9> * adapted gnome-volume-manager's hal50 patch to make it compile.
16:10 < mnemoc> rxr_: do you use gnome-volume-manager somewhere? can you see if the new version works with the new hal50 trickery?
16:12 < rxr_> I'm not a gnome user in any form
16:12 < rxr_> but I can test some time later
16:13 < mnemoc> define 'later' :)
16:16 < rxr_> ouhm - when do you need the info
16:17 < mnemoc> i want to finish merging gnome 2.10.2 and update linux-header to 2.6.11.12 to release rc3
16:17 < mnemoc> with only tests between rc3 and final
16:18 < mnemoc> those two last commits suppose to fix the two issues pending in regard of gnome 2.10.2
16:19 < mnemoc> but i can 'trust' and assume build=run :)
16:20 < rxr_> well - merge for now and I fix any problem s
16:21 < rxr_> I can also test that soon - maybe tomorrow
16:21 < mnemoc> tomorrow is ok to me :)
16:21 < mnemoc> thanks ;)
16:21 < mnemoc> morfoh!
16:21 < rxr_> need scanner work - and then archivista work
16:21 < rxr_> and also deplay the x86-64 subnotebook that hit my desk
16:22 < mnemoc> o.o
16:22 < rxr_> deploy
16:22 < rxr_> and I also need to find what the hell is freezing my main build box during certain file moves ...
16:22 < mnemoc> oh
16:22 < rxr_> btw the Turion book is blazing fast ... and not noisy at all and not really hot - at least not yet
16:23 < rxr_> more like iBook temperature ...
16:23 -!- You're now known as rxr
16:23 < mnemoc> i guess you will own a turion soon :)
16:28 < rxr> guess I'll have a x86_64 system soon ,-)
16:29 < mnemoc> :)
16:36 * rxr sub-notebook stress testing by t2 building ...
16:53 < CIA-9> amery * r11241 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/nautilus-cd-burner/ (nautilus-cd-burner.conf nautilus-cd-burner.desc): * merged 10504,11239 from trunk: updated nautilus-cd-burner (2.10.1 -> 2.10.2)
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17:36 < CIA-9> amery * r11242 /branches/2.1/package/perl/mod_perl/mod_perl.desc: * merged 9072,9989 from trunk: updated mod_perl (2.0.0-RC3 -> 2.0.1)
17:44 < rxr> Die Entwickler der freien Virtualisierungssoftware Xen haben auf dem IDF ein unmodifiziertes Windows XP als Gastsystem unter der in der Testphase befindlichen Version 3.0 von Xen vorgef?hrt. Dazu verwendeten sie einen Intel-Prozessor mit der Virtualisierungsunterst?tzung Vanderpool Technology (VT), die Intel mit den auf dem IDF angek?ndigten Prozessorgenerationen Yonah und Merom einf?hren wird.
17:44 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/63167
17:46 < mnemoc> o.o
17:46 < Baldzius> i wish i knew german :)
17:47 < mnemoc> same do i
17:47 < Baldzius> all i know is - litauish ist maine mutter shprahe :)
17:47 < rxr> Xen 3.0 runs unmodifed WinXP @ Intel IDF on Inte's upcomming hardware VT
17:47 < Baldzius> sorry for mistakes :)
17:48 < valentin> rxr: you know that falk will be in Berlin on Fri ?
17:49 < rxr> ah - yes - you told me
17:49 < rxr> thanks for the reminder
17:50 < Baldzius> damn, the most wanted feature for me now is pkgsel would handle dependencies
17:51 < mnemoc> Baldzius: that would lead you to install all packages
17:51 < Baldzius> you think so?
17:52 < mnemoc> yes
17:52 < Baldzius> Emerge-Pkg -deps=indirect works briliant
17:52 < Baldzius> for me
17:52 < mnemoc> on my machines its harmful
17:53 < Baldzius> hm
17:53 < Baldzius> strange
17:53 < mnemoc> i'm too far from 'generic'
17:54 < Baldzius> i'm too far from 'geek' :)
17:54 < mnemoc> :)
17:55 < Baldzius> i mean
17:55 < Baldzius> you know
17:55 < Baldzius> noob :)
17:55 < mnemoc> ;)
17:56 < Baldzius> for me target noob would be perfect :)
17:57 < mnemoc> what a noob needs?
17:57 < mnemoc> rene, on desktop, does dependencies hunting on config.in
17:58 < mnemoc> and on mnemosyne i choosed to use pkgsel 'bricks'
17:59 < Baldzius> well maybe one day i'll try your's target
17:59 < CIA-9> rene * r11243 /trunk/package/multimedia/klear/klear.desc: * updated klear (0.3 -> 0.4)
18:00 < mnemoc> rxr: does klear install _something_ now?
18:01 < mnemoc> Baldzius: review them to take 'ideas'
18:01 < rxr> mnemoc: it does not ?
18:01 < mnemoc> rxr: there is an issue on trac ;)
18:01 < mnemoc> rxr: 0.3 doesn't
18:02 < rxr> we need trac notify mails ... ,-)
18:02 < Baldzius> mnemoc: ok
18:03 < rxr> mnemoc: it does install here - as it did before
18:03 < mnemoc> rxr: flist?
18:03 < mnemoc> rxr: i'm not the only one having that problem
18:03 < rxr> mnemoc: hm
18:04 < rxr> -[TIMESTAMP] 1124898653 Wed Aug 24 17:50:53 2005
18:04 < rxr> -[CONFIG-ID] 2.2.0-alpha-x86-pentium-mmx-reference
18:04 < rxr> -[BUILDTIME] 14654 (9)
18:04 < rxr> -[SIZE] 0.78 MB, 15 files
18:04 < rxr> +[TIMESTAMP] 1117318803 Sat May 28 18:20:03 2005
18:04 < rxr> +[CONFIG-ID] 2.1.0-rc1-x86-pentium4-generic
18:04 < rxr> +[BUILDTIME] 10322 (5)
18:04 < rxr> +[SIZE] 0.53 MB, 7 files
18:04 < mnemoc> 7 files = /var/adm/
18:04 < rxr> mine -rf klear
18:04 < rxr> I recheck
18:05 -!- sparc-kly|univ [n=lab216@66-50-123-218.prtc.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
18:09 < rxr> mnemoc: ok - ack - reproduced
18:09 < rxr> I fix klear
18:09 < rxr> what is the encoding for closing trac bugs ?
18:09 < rxr> fixes #123 ?
18:09 < rxr> or (#123) ?
18:10 < mnemoc> i do (closed #123)
18:10 < mnemoc> nothing standarized yet :)
18:11 < mnemoc> we have to get trac in sync with svn to get a good 'timeline'
18:31 < mnemoc> rxr: merging your update i got /usr/bin/klear, if that the only file needed?
18:31 < rxr> well - maybe
18:32 < rxr> I wonder why I don't get it right now ...
18:32 < mnemoc> nothing installed there?
18:33 < rxr> hm - I wonder if it is a bug in the fl_wrapper or whatsoever
18:33 < rxr> maybe the ../../..'s are wrongly combined ...
18:33 < rxr> ]# make install
18:33 < rxr> cp -f "../bin/klear" "../../../../../bin/klear"
18:33 < rxr> strip "../../../../../bin/klear"
18:34 * mnemoc pukes over klear author
18:34 < rxr> hm - maybe this is my new filter that throws away that acces incorectly ...
18:34 < rxr> mnemoc: I know him ...
18:34 < rxr> is at my uni ... ,-)
18:34 < mnemoc> :p
18:34 < rxr> I can kick him for you if you like ...
18:34 < mnemoc> please :)
18:34 < rxr> though it seems to uncover a but in our file tracker
18:34 < rxr> I review later
18:34 < rxr> when I have more time
18:35 < rxr> leave it as it is right now ...
18:35 < mnemoc> yes
18:47 < mnemoc> uhm .... why do we have third-party software-suspend on linux26 package?
18:50 < rxr> mnemoc: no idea - it was not me
18:51 < mnemoc> 11142 chris [D] 462594599 software-suspend-2.1.9.9-for-2.6.12.tar.bz2 http://www.suspend2.net/downloads/all/
18:51 < mnemoc> morfoh!
18:52 < _Ragnar_> ?
18:53 < _Ragnar_> moin\
18:53 < mnemoc> 10189 jsaw [D] 1657630569 software-suspend-2.1.9.8-for-2.6.12.tar.bz2 http://www.suspend2.net/downloads/all/
18:53 < mnemoc> moin _Ragnar_
18:53 < mnemoc> Author: jsaw
18:53 < mnemoc> Date: 2005-07-14 14:53:40 +0200 (Thu, 14 Jul 2005)
18:53 < mnemoc> New Revision: 10189
18:53 < mnemoc> Log: * prepare for inclusion of swsusp2 in kernel 2.6
18:54 < mnemoc> .oO
18:56 < mnemoc> diff -r10188:10189 is _ugly_
19:04 < CIA-9> ragnar * r11244 /trunk/package/audio/tse3/tse3_type.patch: * add some casts to tse3 as needed for x86_64 build
19:05 < CIA-9> ragnar * r11245 /trunk/package/audio/xmp/xmp.desc: * xmp needs -fPIC on x86_64
19:06 < CIA-9> ragnar * r11246 /trunk/package/multimedia/lives/lives.desc: * lives needs -fPIC for x86_64
19:10 < CIA-9> ragnar * r11247 /trunk/package/multimedia/vlc/vlc.conf: * enable v4l functionality in vlc
19:12 < CIA-9> ragnar * r11248 /trunk/package/kde/kdewebdev/kdewebdev.desc: * kdewebdev needs to be built after kdelibs
19:16 < morfoh> re
19:16 < morfoh> mnemoc: btw, software-suspend was there before ... I just updated it
19:25 < mnemoc> morfoh: yes, i noticed jsaw did it :) sorry
19:25 < morfoh> mnemoc: no problem ... :)
19:25 < mnemoc> morfoh: go back to ixp paper work :)
19:25 < mnemoc> brb
19:25 < CIA-9> sebastian * r11249 /trunk/package/x11/torsmo/ (. torsmo.cache torsmo.desc): * added torsmo (0.18)
19:25 < morfoh> mnemoc: ack
19:26 < rxr> ixp is what ?
19:26 < morfoh> "currywurst morfoh" greats "nudossi sepp" :)
20:01 < mnemoc> re
20:07 * rxr off - cu most probably later
20:07 < _Ragnar_> ciaoi
20:07 < morfoh> cu rxr
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20:19 < keinek> hi
20:22 < Baldzius> hi kenek
20:22 < Baldzius> noone has problem compiling gawk 3.1.5?
20:23 < Baldzius> trunk
20:23 < mnemoc> 3.1.4 on 2.1 ;)
20:23 < mnemoc> what kind of problem?
20:24 < Baldzius> there are hunk messages applying patch
20:24 < Baldzius> from dietlic
20:25 < Baldzius> pkg_gawk.patch
20:25 < mnemoc> rene updates gawk 3 days ago... i guess he forgot to adapt dietlibc patch
20:25 < Baldzius> yeah this patch look like for 3.1.4
20:26 < mnemoc> Baldzius: can you adapt it and send the diff?
20:27 < Baldzius> hm you think i'll make it?
20:27 < Baldzius> well i can try
20:27 < mnemoc> Baldzius: of course you can :)
20:27 < Baldzius> hehehe :)
20:28 < Baldzius> ok
20:35 < CIA-9> amery * r11250 /trunk/package/network/nss_ldap/ (3 files): * updated nss_ldap (238 -> 239)
20:36 < CIA-9> amery * r11251 /trunk/package/network/pam_ldap/ (4 files): * updated pam_ldap (178 -> 180)
20:45 < Baldzius> mnemoc: there are huge changes, we need rxr :)
20:45 < mnemoc> Baldzius: try removing the patch
20:45 < Baldzius> how do you think, should i remove that part raleted to diet
20:45 < Baldzius> :)
20:46 < Baldzius> ok
20:46 < morfoh> oh! you guys screwing up the diet support
20:47 < mnemoc> i?
20:47 < morfoh> mnemoc: not directly ... you just instructing Baldzius :p
20:48 < Baldzius> i was thinking about it also
20:48 < Baldzius> :)
20:48 < mnemoc> "there are huge changes" -> "maybe they already fixed dietlibc support"
20:48 < Baldzius> dunno :)
20:49 < Baldzius> i am using t2 only 3 day :)
20:49 < mnemoc> if they (gawk monks) didn't fix it, the build will fail
20:49 < Baldzius> i will inform :)
20:50 < Baldzius> compiling
20:50 < Baldzius> shit :)
20:50 < Baldzius> not working
20:51 < Baldzius> damn how i love this distro :)
20:51 < mnemoc> ugly gcc error?
20:51 < Baldzius> trully :)
20:51 < mnemoc> Baldzius: why? :)
20:51 < Baldzius> it hard to explain, not enough english level :)
20:52 < Baldzius> yeah undifined reference to 'pow'
20:52 < Baldzius> we need rxr
20:52 < Baldzius> :)
20:52 < mnemoc> morfoh is on dietlibc-team too
20:52 < Baldzius> morfoh :)
20:53 < Baldzius> fix patch gawk :)
20:53 < Baldzius> i want my target tommorow
20:53 < mnemoc> i want a massage
20:53 < Baldzius> try install gawk 3.1.5
20:53 < Baldzius> and see for yourself
20:54 < Baldzius> it'all in eval.c
20:54 < Baldzius> they made there changes
20:54 < Baldzius> and patch fails to apply
20:54 < mnemoc> the patch has to be adapted
20:54 < Baldzius> has but not :)
20:55 < Baldzius> maybe you can
20:55 < Baldzius> i can continue target build
20:55 < Baldzius> i can't continue target build
20:55 < mnemoc> Baldzius: revert 11184 on your working copy
20:56 < Baldzius> can you teach me?
20:56 < mnemoc> first restore the patch you removed doing: svn up
20:56 < Baldzius> i made copy
20:56 < mnemoc> then revert 11184 doing: svn merge -r11184:11183 .
20:57 < Baldzius> ok
20:57 < Baldzius> trying ...
20:57 < mnemoc> don't forget to Download gawk
20:58 < Baldzius> i has it
20:58 < Baldzius> 3.1.5 && 3.1.4
20:58 < Baldzius> if my path is /opt/t2/trunk
20:58 < Baldzius> where i should run svn?
20:59 < mnemoc> svn up? if you want, yes
20:59 < Baldzius> svn merge
20:59 < mnemoc> svn merge -r11184:11183 . <---- means revert r11184
21:00 < Baldzius> ok got it
21:02 < morfoh> mnemoc: I want a massage too
21:02 < mnemoc> morfoh: :)
21:02 < morfoh> mnemoc: do you know a nice chilean "massage girl" here in berlin :)
21:03 < mnemoc> morfoh: not yet ;)
21:03 < morfoh> mnemoc: and tell me sth. about your friend here :p
21:03 < Baldzius> mnemoc: thanks, all ok :)
21:03 < morfoh> don't
21:04 < mnemoc> morfoh: male
21:04 < morfoh> .oO( damn I've to do a phone call )o
21:04 < mnemoc> Baldzius: if you don't want to have troubles like that, use 2.1 branch
21:05 < morfoh> mnemoc: that why I told you that I#m not interested in getting a massage from your chilean pal here :)
21:05 * morfoh hides
21:05 < Baldzius> mnemoc: thanks i prefer walking on the edge, i use only latest even if it is unstable
21:05 < Baldzius> in that way i used all 2.6 pre and rc kernels
21:05 < mnemoc> Baldzius: :)
21:06 < morfoh> Baldzius: you don't know our release maintainer for 2.1 ... he's allways on the "edge" :p
21:06 * morfoh runs away
21:06 < mnemoc> .oO
21:07 < morfoh> in the hope mnemonkey will not get him
21:07 < Baldzius> :)
21:07 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
21:08 < morfoh> hey _Ragnar_ :)
21:08 < _Ragnar_> hey hey
21:08 < mnemoc> :)
21:08 < morfoh> playing fool with the release maintainer can be dangerous ...
21:09 < mnemoc> nah
21:09 < Baldzius> :)
21:11 < morfoh> if he'll get you first he will make a branch of you and after that he'll tag you
21:11 < morfoh> that's no fun
21:11 < morfoh> believe me :p
21:12 < Baldzius> if you want dangerous use trunk :)
21:12 < Baldzius> but also it's fun
21:12 < mnemoc> morfoh: :)
21:13 < morfoh> Baldzius: release maintainers don't know the word "fun" anyway :p
21:13 * morfoh hides
21:13 < mnemoc> :(
21:13 < Baldzius> heh
21:14 < morfoh> Baldzius: here you see
21:14 < morfoh> he is sad now
21:15 < morfoh> we've to generate more commits to make him happy again ...
21:16 < Baldzius> :)
21:16 < mnemoc> i'll be happy if Baldzius adapts dietlibc's gawk patch to 3.1.5
21:17 < Baldzius> mnemoc: i am afraid i will have to upset you :)
21:18 < Baldzius> i wish i had rxr's brains :)
21:18 < Baldzius> at least 1/2 of them
21:18 < morfoh> .oO( does he have more than one ? )
21:19 < mnemoc> is rxr a mutant?
21:19 < Baldzius> :)
21:19 < Baldzius> s/s//
21:21 < Baldzius> i know english just a little and doing a lot of mistakes
21:27 < mnemoc> :)
21:28 < mnemoc> morfoh: did you started the reference build you offered?
21:28 < morfoh> yep
21:28 < mnemoc> great if everything builds fine with 2.6.11.12 as linux-header i'll tag rc3 right after
21:29 < morfoh> mnemoc: hopefully "Monster" will not freeze
21:29 < morfoh> but I'll see it torrow morning
21:29 < morfoh> tomorrow
21:29 < mnemoc> inkscape working?
21:30 < morfoh> not yet ... finished phone call already
21:30 < morfoh> back on inkscape now
21:30 < mnemoc> brb
21:32 < morfoh> hmmm ... inkscape is not working :/
21:36 < CIA-9> sebastian * r11252 /trunk/package/graphic/aqsis/aqsis.conf: * removed obsolete boost/thread workaround
21:44 < CIA-9> sebastian * r11253 /trunk/package/x11/mrxvt/mrxvt.cache: * added missing .cache file
21:51 < mnemoc> morfoh: trunk or 2.1?
21:51 < morfoh> 2.1
21:51 < mnemoc> .oO
21:56 < CIA-9> sebastian * r11254 /trunk/package/network/kismet/kismet.desc: * updated kismet (2005-07-R1a -> 2005-08-R1) - Security Update
22:04 < mnemoc> morfoh: for x in /opt/gnome2/lib/lib*; do echo == $x ==; nm -a $x | grep -i xpm; done
22:04 < CIA-9> sebastian * r11255 /trunk/package/x11/torsmo/torsmo.desc: * fixed wrong [L] - sorry
22:06 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.221.69.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2
22:06 < sepp> hi
22:06 < mnemoc> hi sepp
22:06 < sepp> hi mnemoc
22:06 < sepp> :)
22:06 < mnemoc> sepp: kismet security risk is only related to 2005-07-R1a, or also to 2005-01-R1 (2.1)?
22:06 < morfoh> hey "nudossi sepp" ... here is your friendly "currywurst morfoh" :)
22:07 < sepp> mnemoc: big red chars: "ALL USERS SHOULD UPGRADE IMMEDIATELY."
22:07 < morfoh> mnemoc: I get a lot of i.e. /opt/gnome2/lib/libpangomm-1.4.la: File format not recognized
22:08 < morfoh> nm: /opt/gnome2/lib/libpangomm-1.4.so: no symbols
22:08 < sepp> hehe hi "currywurst morfoh" :D
22:08 < morfoh> sepp: I already made one for you
22:08 < morfoh> :D
22:08 < morfoh> you're looking hungry
22:08 < morfoh> after your commit run
22:09 < mnemoc> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/thumb/3/36/Currywurst.jpg/250px-Currywurst.jpg ?
22:09 < sepp> morfoh: "I still don't have details on the exact exploits discussed at Defcon, but since no data has been forthcoming on vulnerabilities this release addresses all currently known problems discovered ..."
22:09 < sepp> uhm irssi
22:09 < sepp> was for mnemoc
22:10 < sepp> i guess you better update kismet 2005-01-R1
22:10 < morfoh> mnemoc: Currywurst is sth. "special" here in Berlin ;)
22:10 < morfoh> mnemoc: but I don't like it :p
22:10 < mnemoc> sepp: ok :)
22:10 < mnemoc> morfoh: o.o
22:11 < morfoh> but I like "Nudossi"
22:11 < sepp> :)
22:11 < morfoh> from sepp's home town :)
22:11 < mnemoc> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Currywurst.jpg <--- looks tasty anyway
22:11 < sepp> it is
22:12 < morfoh> I've never seen a Currywurst that was looking tasty :)
22:12 < mnemoc> nudossi is like nutella?
22:12 < sepp> yes
22:12 < morfoh> mnemoc: yes ... but better :)
22:12 < morfoh> much much much better :)
22:13 < morfoh> lightyears in front of nutella
22:13 < mnemoc> :)
22:13 < morfoh> nutella is crap
22:13 < mnemoc> == /opt/gnome2/lib/libbonoboui-2.a ==
22:13 < mnemoc> 00000000 d bonobo_insert_component_xpm U gdk_pixbuf_new_from_xpm_data
22:13 < mnemoc> 00000000 d down_arrow_xpm_data U gdk_pixbuf_new_from_xpm_data
22:13 < mnemoc> 00000040 d right_arrow_xpm_data
22:14 < sepp> nm?
22:14 < mnemoc> yes
22:14 < mnemoc> weirdly morfoh don't have xpm support on his box
22:15 < morfoh> I'll kill the guy who made this crappy target
22:16 < morfoh> ooops that wasn't me ... it was joe :p
22:16 < mnemoc> i'll make mnemosyne2 more pure and less flexible
22:16 < mnemoc> oddities will be done extending it, not messing it
22:16 < morfoh> less flexible sounds like mnemosyne1 :p
22:16 < mnemoc> less^2
22:17 < Baldzius> good night people :)
22:17 < sepp> someone had problems with 2.6.12.3 - ide or fs?
22:17 < morfoh> good night Baldzius ... sleep well :)
22:17 < sepp> my box ooopsed 3 times in 4 days :/
22:18 < morfoh> sepp: nope
22:18 < morfoh> sepp: but I suppose I've ide problems on my box at work
22:18 < mnemoc> sepp: i'll follow grsec people suggestion, ignore 2.6.12
22:19 < morfoh> mnemoc: good men
22:19 < mnemoc> sepp: do you gnome?
22:19 < sepp> lol
22:19 < sepp> no
22:19 < morfoh> sepp: do you are a gnome ?
22:20 < sepp> no ~2m
22:20 < morfoh> oopps ...
22:20 * mnemoc fears
22:20 < morfoh> I'm a gnome then between sepp and mnemoc
22:20 < sepp> i like t2 because i can get rid of bloat very easy
22:20 < morfoh> but I don't fear you both
22:20 < sepp> no gnome/kde ...
22:21 < mnemoc> sepp: xfce?
22:21 < morfoh> fluxbox
22:21 < sepp> *box
22:21 < mnemoc> :)
22:21 < morfoh> sepp: I switched to fluxbox finally some days ago
22:22 < sepp> i use the silly key with a window painted on it to start apps
22:23 < sepp> win-x win-* etc ...
22:26 < sepp> my t2 fits on 1 cd :)
22:26 < sepp> i don't need 23 editors ...
22:27 -!- [Kosh] [n=kosh_nar@201.36.98.165] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
22:27 < morfoh> sepp: why not ? :p
22:27 < sepp> :)
22:28 < morfoh> my shiny none functioning mnemosyne desktop fits on 1 CD too
22:28 < mnemoc> morfoh: _you_ put qt in there
22:28 < morfoh> mnemoc: haha ... now he is blaming qt
22:29 < mnemoc> morfoh: not qt, you. you corrupted it's purity
22:29 < morfoh> mnemoc: that's why I'm here .... it's my mission
22:29 < morfoh> mnemoc: because Billy thought T2 becomes too powerful :p
22:30 < mnemoc> :)
22:30 < sepp> billy?
22:30 < morfoh> mnemoc: I'll do my best like my friend Daniel
22:31 < morfoh> sepp: Silly Billy from Redmond ... he's my boss
22:32 < mnemoc> :)
22:33 < sepp> ohh the company that celebrates the 10th anniversary of win-95 today
22:33 < morfoh> and because he is a patriotic US citizen he wants to screw the people from latin/south america first
22:34 < morfoh> now you know my none secret mission
22:34 < mnemoc> he almost got you with the patents :)
22:35 < sepp> lol win95-a pushed me to try linux
22:35 < sepp> my 1st x86 was sold with 95
22:35 < sepp> yuck
22:36 < mnemoc> i had my first x86 10 years before :)
22:36 < morfoh> sepp: I waited long time before I tried the crap
22:36 < sepp> poor mnemoc
22:36 < sepp> :)
22:37 < morfoh> mnemoc is a real geek from cl
22:37 < CIA-9> amery * r11256 /branches/2.1/package/network/kismet/kismet.desc: * merged 9821,10942,11254 from trunk: updated kismet (2005-01-R1 -> 2005-08-R1)
22:37 < mnemoc> s/geek/freak/
22:38 < sepp> i never used dos :D
22:38 < morfoh> Aborted building package libgnomeuiAborted building package libgnomeui
22:38 < mnemoc> ?
22:39 < morfoh> mnemoc: libgnomeui fails
22:39 < mnemoc> morfoh: do you have the whole gnome.minimal.choice scheduled?
22:39 < morfoh> yes
22:39 < mnemoc> uhm
22:40 < morfoh> /opt/gnome2/bin/gdk-pixbuf-csource --raw --build-list $var > pixbufs-tmp && \
22:40 < morfoh> cat ./copyright.txt pixbufs-tmp > gnome-stock-pixbufs.h
22:40 < morfoh> failed to load "./stock_attach.png": Couldn't recognize the image file format for file './stock_att
22:41 < morfoh> ach.png'
22:41 < morfoh> make[4]: *** [gnome-stock-pixbufs.h] Error 1 /opt/gnome2/bin/gdk-pixbuf-csource --raw --build-list $var > pixbufs-tmp && \
22:41 < morfoh> cat ./copyright.txt pixbufs-tmp > gnome-stock-pixbufs.h
22:41 < morfoh> failed to load "./stock_attach.png": Couldn't recognize the image file format for file './stock_att
22:41 < morfoh> ach.png'
22:41 < morfoh> make[4]: *** [gnome-stock-pixbufs.h] Error 1
22:41 < mnemoc> X complete? gtk completE?
22:41 < morfoh> yes
22:43 < morfoh> I think I will schedule a fresh build and will go sleep
22:43 < morfoh> I'm too tired
22:44 < morfoh> after the 4h sleep from last night
22:44 < sepp> thats not healthy !
22:45 < mnemoc> health? what is that?
22:46 < sepp> that is if you stop after the 10th pot of coffee
22:46 < sepp> e.g.
22:46 < mnemoc> i don't count them :)
22:47 < sepp> :)
22:47 < sepp> if your fingers jiggle ...
22:49 < mnemoc> my fingers jiggle... so... i'm healthy :)
22:49 < sepp> :D
22:50 < sepp> if they don't jiggle after 10 pots of coffee , i guess you have some serious problem
22:50 < mnemoc> :)
23:02 < sepp> hmm what happened with the make bz2filename() smart idea?
23:04 < mnemoc> ?
23:04 < sepp> the tbz vs. tbz2 thing
23:05 < sepp> convert tbz -> tar.bz2 ...
23:05 < morfoh> hey jiggeling mnemonkey
23:05 < morfoh> :)
23:05 < mnemoc> sepp: jsaw had problems with that and solved the issue adding explicit tbz support
23:06 < sepp> mnemoc: ahh ok, i thought you wanted to improve bz2filename() ...
23:06 < sepp> maybe i misread something
23:07 < mnemoc> i wanted, yes
23:09 < morfoh> sepp: yes mnemoc wanted ... but he had no control over his fingers after coffee pot #100 on that day
23:09 < morfoh> + 200 cokes of course
23:10 < mnemoc> :(
23:11 < mnemoc> morfoh: and you keep hiding IXP document from me, so i can't relax :(
23:12 < morfoh> mnemoc: I don't hide nothing ... I can send you the last version. but it's in german and have to translate it
23:12 < mnemoc> morfoh: send it anyway :)
23:13 < morfoh> ok
23:13 < mnemoc> morfoh: i have to learn your F* language!
23:13 < mnemoc> i choose the hard way
23:13 < morfoh> mnemoc: I don't want to learn spanish anymore after watching "Hotel Ruanda" on spanish :p
23:13 < sepp> F* == german ?
23:14 * mnemoc hides
23:14 < morfoh> sepp: show him how stron I am please :)
23:14 < morfoh> strong
23:14 < mnemoc> your are the gnome :)
23:14 < sepp> i would not suggest to learn german ;)
23:15 < mnemoc> i have to learn italian to get my passport :(
23:15 < mnemoc> at least enough italian to ask for it
23:18 < sepp> huhm i have to sleep - good night all
23:19 < morfoh> mnemoc: you know: "size isn't all" :p
23:19 < mnemoc> gn8 sepp
23:19 < morfoh> night sepp ... sleep well
23:19 < mnemoc> morfoh: :)
23:19 < morfoh> mnemoc: mail is out
23:19 < morfoh> de en fr
23:19 < mnemoc> morfoh: :D
23:20 < mnemoc> morfoh: are they in sync?
23:20 < morfoh> mnemoc: mostly
23:21 < morfoh> mnemoc: why ?
23:21 < mnemoc> morfoh: to learn :)
23:21 < morfoh> mnemoc: :)
23:21 < mnemoc> morfoh: any reason to not write that draft on plone?
23:21 < morfoh> btw, do you really have to learn italien ?
23:22 < morfoh> mnemoc: nope
23:22 < mnemoc> yep
23:22 < mnemoc> they _only_ talk italian during office time
23:23 < morfoh> mnemoc: I think you'll see the simple site structure we choosed in the drafts
23:23 < morfoh> mnemoc: then hurry up and learn italien first
23:23 < morfoh> to get this f* passport :p
23:24 < morfoh> mnemoc: but the english needs some tuning
23:25 < morfoh> mnemoc: it's not that well written like the german or french version
23:25 < _Ragnar_> hey
23:25 < mnemoc> hi _Ragnar_
23:25 < morfoh> oh _Ragnar_ is still alive :)
23:25 < mnemoc> morfoh: move it to plone, private draft on your home
23:25 < _Ragnar_> :D
23:26 < mnemoc> :)
23:26 < morfoh> :)
23:37 < morfoh> why I can't choose ReST ?
23:39 < morfoh> mnemoc: if I want to translate
23:39 < morfoh> it chooses HTML by default
23:39 < mnemoc> below text area there is a link to not use kupu
23:40 < morfoh> and I can't use the pull down menu
23:40 < mnemoc> should i remove kupu?
23:40 < morfoh> nope ... not yet
23:40 < morfoh> it works now
23:41 < mnemoc> i enabled kupu thinking in non-sick members of the group
23:45 < morfoh> mnemoc: but it would be nice if you could close the site ... content should be available just by auth. members
23:46 < morfoh> I've to sleep now ... will add the next stuff in the morning
23:47 < mnemoc> morfoh: private stuff (and folders) can only be seen by admins
23:47 < morfoh> yes ... but I added "about us" in de fr en
23:49 < morfoh> mnemoc: and we should find a way to show the "user" who added the site just for auth. users too
23:50 < morfoh> poor "rat" needs some devotion ... he is quite sad
23:50 < mnemoc> i don't follow you
23:51 < morfoh> you don't or you can't
23:51 < morfoh> ?
23:51 < mnemoc> please rephrase
23:51 < morfoh> I mean ... the "by Alejandro Mery ... " should just be visible by authenticated users not by joe anonymous ;)
23:52 < mnemoc> let me ask
23:52 < morfoh> -> by Alejandro Mery last modified 2005-08-24 17:52
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