--- Log opened Thu Aug 04 00:00:00 2005 00:01 < CIA-9> sebastian * r10810 /trunk/package/emulators/qemu/qemu.desc: * updated qemu (0.7.0 -> 0.7.1) 00:01 < sepp_> hi keinek 00:05 < sepp_> and good night all 00:07 < morfoh> night sepp_ 00:20 -!- mode/#t2 [+o vilkacis] by ChanServ 00:22 < mnemoc> vilkacis: topic 00:22 <@vilkacis> mnemoc: T2 | 2.1.0-rc2 TAGGED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ 00:22 < mnemoc> .oO 00:23 < morfoh> mnemoc: who the f* is this strange vilkacis boy :D 00:24 < mnemoc> a guy from latvia 00:26 < mnemoc> vilkacis: topic separator 00:26 <@vilkacis> mnemoc: (topic separator [] ) -- Sets the topic separator for to Converts the current topic appropriately. 00:26 < mnemoc> vilkacis: topic separator | 00:26 < mnemoc> vilkacis: topic separator - 00:26 -!- vilkacis changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 - 2.1.0-rc2 TAGGED - The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) - http://www.t2-project.org/ 00:26 < mnemoc> :) 00:26 < mnemoc> vilkacis: topic separator | 00:26 -!- vilkacis changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 | 2.1.0-rc2 TAGGED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ 00:27 < mnemoc> vilkacis: topic add test 00:27 -!- vilkacis changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 | 2.1.0-rc2 TAGGED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | test (mnemoc) 00:27 < mnemoc> vilkacis: topic del 5 00:27 <@vilkacis> mnemoc: (topic []) -- Returns the topic for . is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. 00:27 < mnemoc> vilkacis: topic remove 5 00:27 -!- vilkacis changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 | 2.1.0-rc2 TAGGED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ 00:35 < mnemoc> bbl 00:35 < morfoh> cu mnemoc :) 00:35 < morfoh> I# 00:36 < morfoh> I'll try to fix xmms 00:36 < mnemoc> back in 1h 00:36 < morfoh> ack :) 00:36 < morfoh> perhaps I'll be still here 00:36 < morfoh> :) 00:37 < mnemoc> :) 00:37 < morfoh> greetings to your girlis :) 00:38 < mnemoc> :) 01:03 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@64.237.247.177] has joined #t2 01:23 * _Ragnar_ spanks rxr 01:23 < _Ragnar_> look at the source pathname for arts 01:26 < CIA-9> ragnar * r10811 /trunk/package/kde/arts/arts.desc: * arts 1.4.2 is in kde 2.4.2 directory, and checksum fixed 01:29 < mnemoc> *yawn* 01:31 < morfoh> wb mnemoc 01:32 < CIA-9> ragnar * r10812 /trunk/package/kde/kdevelop/kdevelop.desc: * kdevelop 3.2.2 is in kde 3.4.2 directory, and checksum fixed 01:32 < _Ragnar_> kde is confusing me with their versions ;p 01:35 < morfoh> hi Ragnar ... what's confusing ? 01:36 < mnemoc> that's the 'problem' of bundles 01:41 < _Ragnar_> arts 1.4.2 is in kde 2.4.2 directory <-- should be 3.4.2 01:56 < mnemoc> oh 03:02 * morfoh is back 03:02 -!- karasz [~karasz@80.97.102.202] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:03 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@64.237.247.177] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:08 < Shingo--> jamin don't detect fftw3f. how to proceed, the system always was discovered the decencies? 04:13 < mnemoc> Shingo--: see how should we tell it where fftw3f is, and improve jamin.conf to give it that info 04:15 < Shingo--> i know where is, on package fftw3, i don't have pasted right. 04:16 < mnemoc> then remove the trailing f on my line and do that 04:18 -!- vilkacis [~supybot@ip4.conosurseguros.cl] has quit ["Ctrl-C at console."] 04:39 < Shingo--> I don't understand. 04:50 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@64.237.247.177] has joined #t2 05:01 < Shingo--> http://www.mercadedepublicidade.com.br/~shingo/t2-system/ 05:23 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@64.237.247.177] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:30 < Shingo--> mnemoc: i'm try to run a image in vmware, no success. can you help me? 05:31 < Shingo--> the system stop on first screen. 05:48 < _Ragnar_> anyone have any reservations about updating valgrind to 3.0.0 ? 06:22 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.202.21.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 06:31 < Shingo--> I cant reach 2 stage of installation. 06:31 < _Ragnar_> stage 2? 06:39 -!- sepp_ [~sepp@p213.54.224.247.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:37 < rxr> re 09:46 < morfoh> moin rxr :) 09:46 < morfoh> rxr: hope you slept well 10:03 < rxr> yes - thanks 10:03 < Shingo--> moin, can somebody help me? 10:12 < morfoh> moin Shingo-- what problem do you have ? 10:12 < Shingo--> the install, I don't reach stage 2. 10:20 < Shingo--> after make ISOs images, I will go to run a install in vmware it's don't works 10:22 < morfoh> Shingo--: do you used "-mkdebug" option while running .Create-ISO ? 10:23 < morfoh> Shingo--: btw, I've never used it so far on vmware ... if -mkdebug isn't solving your problem, please add ticket in trac 10:35 -!- karasz [~karasz@80.97.102.202] has joined #t2 10:36 < karasz> rise and shine :D 10:36 < karasz> hello guys and a very good morning to you all 10:36 < morfoh> moin karasz 10:37 < karasz> good morning mr. morfoh :D 10:37 < karasz> how are you today? 10:38 < morfoh> karasz: good ... but I'm a bit in a hurry :D 10:38 < karasz> at this hour in the morning? 10:39 < karasz> hurry is not good for your health :) 10:55 -!- morfoh [~jeru@p54BED91A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:11 < valentin> moin 11:12 -!- sepp_ [~sepp@p213.54.202.21.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 11:26 < karasz> moin everyone 11:27 < karasz> guys i have new info on i810 and agpgart file 11:27 < karasz> thare is an agpgart device file but is located in `/dev/misc/agpgart` 11:28 < karasz> somehow a symlink must be created from `/dev/misc/agpgart` to `/dev/agpgart` 11:28 < karasz> at boot time 11:28 < karasz> anyone has an ideea how? 11:34 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.202.21.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:36 -!- mtr_ [~Michael@p54AF9319.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 11:41 < Shingo--> the install system try access /dev/cdroms/cdrom0:2.1.0-rc3-x86-athlon-xp-bootdisk/2nd_stage.tar.gz and follows error occurs: 11:41 < Shingo--> Extracting 2nd_stage filesystem to ram ... 11:41 < Shingo--> Can't run tar on 2.1.0-rc3-x86-athlon-xp-bootdisk/2nd_stage.tar.gz! 11:41 < Shingo--> Can't find /mnt_root/linuxrc! 11:41 < Shingo--> after redraw menu. :( 11:45 -!- morfoh [~jeru@mail.oberlinhaus.de] has joined #t2 11:45 < morfoh> re hi 11:46 < karasz> re hi morfoh 11:46 < morfoh> hey karasz 11:47 < karasz> morfof: did you do a scroll to see messages? 11:47 < morfoh> nope 11:47 < karasz> guys i have new info on i810 and agpgart file 11:47 < karasz> thare is an agpgart device file but is located in `/dev/misc/agpgart` 11:47 < karasz> somehow a symlink must be created from `/dev/misc/agpgart` to `/dev/agpgart` 11:48 < karasz> at boot time 11:48 < karasz> anyone has an ideea how? 11:48 < morfoh> karasz: what how ? creating a symlink ? 11:48 < karasz> automaticaly at boot time 11:49 < karasz> a symlink like @mouse for example 11:49 < karasz> i know how to create symlincs but manualy 11:49 < morfoh> karasz: I guess you're using rc2 so most probably your /dev is populated by devfs 11:50 < karasz> yes 11:50 < karasz> devfs 11:50 < morfoh> karasz: I don't know exactly how do it. Did you filed a ticket yet ? 11:51 < karasz> i talked some time ago with mnemoc and i filled a ticket 11:51 < karasz> http://trac.t2-project.org/ticket/57 11:51 < morfoh> karasz: ah ok. good :) 11:51 -!- mtr [~Michael@p54AF9211.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:52 < karasz> but then i didn't noticed `/dev/misc/agpgart` 11:57 -!- rxr_ [rene@e178147216.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 11:57 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc2 TAGGED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ 11:57 -!- Topic set by vilkacis [] [Thu Aug 4 00:27:40 2005] 11:57 [Users #t2] 11:57 [ _Ragnar_] [ jsaw ] [ madtux] [ mtr_] [ rxr_ ] [ sparc-kly[U2]] 11:57 [ CIA-9 ] [ karasz] [ mnemoc] [ nzg ] [ sepp_ ] [ valentin ] 11:57 [ dsoul ] [ keinek] [ morfoh] [ rxr ] [ Shingo--] 11:57 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal] 11:57 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 11:57 -!- [freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots, please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 11:57 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 15 secs 11:59 < karasz> updated ticket #57 if anyone cares :) 12:08 -!- rxr [rene@e178165241.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:14 < morfoh> karasz: == 08/04/05 12:14:11 =[9]=> Finished building package smb4k. 12:37 < CIA-9> chris * r10813 /trunk/package/kde/smb4k/ (. smb4k.desc): * added smb4k (0.6.1) 12:58 < rxr_> re 12:58 < rxr_> valentin: around? 12:58 -!- You're now known as rxr 12:59 < morfoh> wb rxr 13:00 < valentin> rxr: yes ? 13:01 < morfoh> moin don valentino :) 13:03 -!- Shingo-- [~shingo@mercantile.wb.com.br] has quit ["Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/"] 13:04 < rxr> valentin: hi 13:04 < rxr> valentin: my new display arrived 13:04 < rxr> if you like we could also come earlier - like 3 or 4 for tea ... ,-) 13:08 < karasz> morfoh: i saw you added the package 13:08 < karasz> it works? ;) 13:09 < karasz> i mean it can fins smbmount and smbumount? 13:09 < karasz> fins-find 13:09 < morfoh> yep ... 13:10 < karasz> from my experience it builds but it cannot find those files unless you patch smb4k_mount and smb4k_umount 13:10 < morfoh> it works quite accurate here at work :) 13:10 < morfoh> and it was really no problem to add 13:10 < karasz> hmmmm 13:10 < karasz> yea i know:) 13:10 < morfoh> no custom conf file needed just a desc file 13:10 < morfoh> so you see the power of t2 ;) 13:11 < morfoh> karasz: have fun while browsing your smb shares :) 13:11 < karasz> maybe it was a problem of $PATH for me... 13:11 < morfoh> karasz: the best thing is to take a look in similar packages ;) 13:11 < karasz> smbc for example 13:11 < morfoh> no 13:12 < morfoh> kde packages 13:13 < karasz> but i do not understand.... smb4k has hardcoded path to find smbmount and smbumount 13:13 < karasz> how does it find thoose on your machine? 13:13 < karasz> `/opt/samba/bin` is not in those hardcoded path 13:14 < karasz> ?) 13:14 < karasz> :? 13:19 < morfoh> karasz: take a look into the smb4k.desk 13:19 < morfoh> karasz: there is a line "[O] . $base/package/*/*/kde-conf.in" 13:20 < karasz> i saw that 13:20 < morfoh> karasz: this will "inherit" the kde configuration paths 13:20 < karasz> ahm 13:20 < karasz> ok 13:20 < morfoh> karasz: and the t2 build system very smart to inject it in i.e. Makefiles etc. 13:20 < karasz> but there is a problem though 13:20 < karasz> :) 13:21 < morfoh> what 13:21 < karasz> i have smb4k running on my T2 machine for 5 days now 13:21 < morfoh> karasz: and now ? 13:21 < morfoh> karasz: what's the problem ? 13:21 < karasz> my goal was to learn how to add pack to T2 13:21 < karasz> not to have the work done by you.. :) 13:22 < morfoh> karasz: of course but that why I explain it quite detailed ;) 13:22 < karasz> i wish to learn how to build .desc files 13:22 < morfoh> karasz: it's sooooooo easy 13:22 < morfoh> take a look in the t2 handbook 13:22 < morfoh> and in other packages 13:22 < karasz> ok i will 13:23 < karasz> :) 13:23 < karasz> i do not want you to get in trouble... 13:23 < karasz> so we'll talk latter 13:23 < morfoh> mostly all packages with a default install routine "configure, make, make install" will just need a desc file 13:23 < morfoh> or just a conf file which changes the install prefix 13:24 < morfoh> take a look into apach.conf ... it 13:24 < morfoh> 's a good example for different things you can do with t2 13:24 < morfoh> for building a package 13:26 < karasz> tar.bz2 is ok or it must be tar.gz? 13:28 < morfoh> karasz: t2 will convert tar.gz automatically to tar.bz2 13:28 < morfoh> tgz -> tbz2 13:28 < morfoh> take look into the handboo please :) 13:28 < karasz> so tar.bz2 is even better since it not get converted 13:28 < karasz> ok ok 13:28 < morfoh> yep 13:28 < karasz> rtfm for me :) i get it 13:29 < morfoh> karasz: I avoid to say rtfm anyway ... but sometimes is useful to read :) 13:29 < karasz> :D 13:29 < karasz> but you know mw by now.... i must talk first cause i am a parrot :D :D 13:32 < valentin> rxr: then you'd better come 15:30 13:43 < rxr> re 13:44 < rxr> well - now susan decided to leave it with 18.xx and go to the postammer platz with her mother ... - so we come 18.xx 13:44 < rxr> sorry for teh confusion ,-) 13:56 -!- root [~root@80.97.102.202] has joined #t2 13:56 < root> yabadabadoo 13:56 < root> konversation works 13:56 -!- root [~root@80.97.102.202] has quit [Client Quit] 13:57 < rxr> valentin: ouhm - well, ... - after the usual phoning with parents we decided to come at 15.30 and visit susan's mom thereafter .. 13:57 < rxr> what a chaos today 13:58 < morfoh> rxr: poor guy :) 13:58 < rxr> yeah ... 13:58 < rxr> nice display I have now ,-) 13:59 < morfoh> rxr: what model ? 13:59 < morfoh> rxr: and what about your CRT ? 14:00 < morfoh> rxr: what's the current price ? ;) 14:00 < rxr> all will be trashed or ebay'ed ... 14:00 < rxr> morfoh: I have an more expensive one now ... 14:00 < rxr> ViewSonic VP 912s 14:00 < morfoh> rxr: what model ? 14:00 < morfoh> ah :) 14:00 < rxr> 45x EUR usually 14:01 < morfoh> 19" 14:01 < morfoh> my 21" CRT is also a CRT 14:02 < rxr> CRT is a CRT ? 14:02 < rxr> heae ? 14:03 < morfoh> oops 14:04 < morfoh> a ViewSonic I mean :) 14:04 < morfoh> with Trinitron 14:04 < morfoh> but indeed your Display is very nice :) 14:06 -!- madtux [~mike@65.182.14.29] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:25 -!- Shingo-- [~shingo@mercantile.wb.com.br] has joined #t2 14:27 < Shingo--> hi, I can't run install. the files in /bin/ don't work in initrd env. 14:27 < Shingo--> there a quick way to investigate cd? 14:27 < Shingo--> I have tried in vmware and outside. 14:35 < rxr> Shingo--: best outline your problems in a mail to the mailing list - so someone can review 14:37 < Shingo--> I want to start use T2 based system. and that stop me. 14:37 < Shingo--> ok, I'll post after in mailing list. 14:49 < morfoh> Shingo--: what release do you use ? 14:49 < Shingo--> 2.1.0-rc3 14:49 < morfoh> Shingo--: and on what host OS do you building on ? 14:50 < morfoh> Shingo--: I mean, what linux distribution 14:50 < Shingo--> Gentoo, the system has build everything. 14:50 < rxr> ah - I thought he has install problems ... 14:50 < Shingo--> but, cd is not ok. 14:51 < rxr> so - cu - /we off to valentin & kerstin 14:51 < morfoh> rxr: cu ... greetings to valentin and his family :) 14:52 < morfoh> Shingo--: what target did you build 14:52 < morfoh> ? 14:53 < Shingo--> bootdisk and desktop. 14:53 < morfoh> Shingo--: what arch and optimization do you want ? 14:53 < Shingo--> x86/athlon-xp 14:53 < morfoh> http://torrent.t2-project.org/ 14:54 < morfoh> I've build an athlon-xp optimized desktop 14:54 < morfoh> and you can download it there 14:55 < morfoh> Shingo--: do you wanna give it a try ? 14:55 < Shingo--> but, the problem still remain. 14:55 < Shingo--> I'll try it. 14:55 < morfoh> Shingo--: did you tested my ISO's ? 14:56 < Shingo--> not yet. 14:57 < morfoh> Shingo--: I don't know what the problem is. It could be even some drivers problem if you have some special hardware 14:57 < morfoh> Shingo--: i.e. IDE chipsets or so 14:57 < Shingo--> for example, i can't run /bin/tar in install environment. 14:58 < morfoh> Shingo--: hmmm. that's strange 14:58 < morfoh> Shingo--: you can even try the minimal athlon-xp first 14:58 < morfoh> Shingo--: to see if this will work 14:58 < Shingo--> I don't nothing about kiss. 14:59 < morfoh> Shingo--: then you don't have to download the 1GB just the 144MB of the minimal targetz 14:59 < Shingo--> ok. 15:01 < morfoh> Shingo--: please feel free to contact me in any case regarding the ISO's 15:02 < Shingo--> I have mounted the initrd image, the image look seems ok. 15:05 < morfoh> Shingo--: the bootdisk target will be dropped soon anyway 15:06 < Shingo--> I have no need this target? 15:06 < morfoh> Shingo--: it make no sense anymore because we've a livecd framework which can be used for the install media 15:07 < Shingo--> Creating initrd data: 15:07 < Shingo--> -> Create linuxrc binary. 15:07 < Shingo--> linuxrc.o(.text+0x33f): In function `httpload': 15:07 < Shingo--> linuxrc.c: warning: warning: your code uses stdio (7+k bloat). 15:07 < Shingo--> linuxrc.o(.text+0x40f):linuxrc.c: warning: setenv calls malloc. Avoid it in small programs. 15:07 < Shingo--> /home/shingo/t2-2.1/build/bootdisk-2.1.0-rc3-x86-athlon-xp-bootdisk/usr/dietlibc/lib-i386/libc.a(vsnprintf.o)(.text+0xbf): In function `vsnprintf': 15:07 < Shingo--> vsnprintf.c: warning: warning: the printf functions add several kilobytes of bloat. 15:07 < Shingo--> /home/shingo/t2-2.1/build/bootdisk-2.1.0-rc3-x86-athlon-xp-bootdisk/usr/dietlibc/lib-i386/libc.a(vsscanf.o)(.text+0x6e): In function `vsscanf': 15:07 < Shingo--> vsscanf.c: warning: warning: the scanf functions add several kilobytes of bloat. 15:07 < Shingo--> -> Copy various helper applications. 15:07 < Shingo--> -> Adding kiss shell for expert use to the initrd image. 15:07 < morfoh> Shingo--: no! atm you'll need it for creating a bootable cd 15:07 < Shingo--> ok. 15:08 < morfoh> Shingo--: these are "just" warnings of dietlibc 15:08 < Shingo--> ok 15:13 < Shingo--> I think I know the problem. 15:13 < Shingo--> is Dietlibc used in bootdisk? 15:13 < morfoh> Shingo--: yes ... partially 15:14 < morfoh> Shingo--: bootdisk is really a mess and we've to get rid of it as soon as possible 15:15 < Shingo--> hehehe, but a have put in pkgsel from targetr desktop "- dietlibc", isn't this the problem? 15:22 -!- veki [~chatzilla@217.24.19.40] has joined #t2 15:23 < keinek> hi 15:23 < veki> hi 15:23 < morfoh> Shingo--: no ... this isn't the problem 15:23 < morfoh> hi keinek 15:23 < veki> hi morfoh 15:23 < morfoh> hey vamp :) 15:23 < veki> hey rabbit owner :) 15:24 < morfoh> veki: btw, I don't "own" a rabbit 15:24 < veki> OK, but you do have it ? 15:24 < veki> or rabbit master? 15:25 < morfoh> veki: nope 15:25 < mnemoc> the rabbit owns him 15:25 < veki> ok, rabbit fun 15:25 < veki> :) 15:25 < morfoh> veki: I'd say a rabbit is sharing his room with me ... isn't he graceful :) 15:26 < morfoh> hey mnemoc ... suggar boy :) 15:26 < veki> ah, yes that is cool 15:26 < veki> btw, I have one question which is maybe conceptual 15:26 < mnemoc> :) 15:26 < veki> I am building desktop target and I have on that machine soething like 184MB RAM etc. 15:27 < veki> swap is approx 320 or so... 15:28 < veki> When I am building target it happens that I have error message that cc1plus program does have error. rene said that it i sdue to lack of memory for kernel and really in var.log.warn it is that message 15:28 < mnemoc> morfoh: # ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg desktop 15:28 < mnemoc> Error logs from desktop-2.1.0-rc2-x86-pentium4-desktop: 15:28 < mnemoc> 677 builds total, 282 completed fine, 0 with errors. 15:28 < veki> So my questions/dilemmas are: 15:29 < veki> 1. Should we put in manula that minimum of swap is let say 450 megs 15:29 < veki> 2. how to enlarge swap without using third party software? 15:29 < veki> 3. Is it really needed to have so big swap 15:30 < mnemoc> veki: you need a better machine to do your builds :) 15:31 < veki> mnemoc: I know that, but I am trying to be more practical or to be more accessible by average users. Actually, my idea is to think do we have place in modest areas of use 15:31 < veki> I can put that swap is 1GB if needed, but we have to put that in manual so people should know that 15:32 < mnemoc> veki: you can add a new swap partition or enlarge your current 15:33 < morfoh> # ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg desktop-p4 15:33 < morfoh> Error logs from desktop-p4-2.1.0-rc2-x86-pentium4-desktop: 15:33 < morfoh> 677 builds total, 120 completed fine, 0 with errors. 15:33 < mnemoc> morfoh: monster is late 15:33 < mnemoc> morfoh: news about rene and the new HD? 15:34 < mnemoc> veki: you can reach modest areas with pre-built distributions, not really as your head quarter 15:35 < morfoh> mnemoc: monster hung 2 time :/ 15:35 < morfoh> times 15:35 < mnemoc> :( 15:35 < morfoh> should I stop 15:35 < morfoh> and starting a minimal ? 15:35 < mnemoc> morfoh: ok 15:35 < morfoh> mnemoc: roger that commander :) 15:35 < mnemoc> veki: but you can use parted to resize your partitions and free space 15:36 < veki> mnemoc: uhm, that is easy to say. if I use cfdsik I do have problems. If I use parted than I have to umount partitions etc. 15:37 < veki> I am trying to find elegant solution that will be part of t2 itself or documentation. I do not have problem saying in manula that swap should be 600megs. That is fine, but we have to put that. 15:37 < veki> my idea is that 2 should be from the point of software and documentation sufficient enough so the users should have enough instructions 15:38 < mnemoc> veki: lvm2 is a good alternative, but you always need to umount before resizing 15:38 < veki> if I use fdsik it is it seems to be unreliable and I do have a lot of problems. I have to check that. Actually, I know how to do that. I am looking for solution that will be elegant and well documented. I hope you understand what I say 15:39 < veki> fdsik=cfdisk 15:41 < veki> my idea is to put t2 close to average user that can read manual and take all precautions on time and be ready for target building. I do not speak on double processor machines and fast target building. I speak on people who do not need 10 targets per week. I speak on ordinary people who would like to enjoy freedom of free software and build targets according to their needs and to train... 15:41 < veki> ...local people how to do that thanking to t2. OK? 15:42 < veki> so my questions are not purely technical. I am trying to think in social terms too, from the point of view of communication (written manual) and simple to use tools 15:43 < mnemoc> what are the 'specs' of your target people? 15:44 < veki> asociation of the blind, independent media, cultural organisations of minority people, etc. 15:45 < veki> they do not need to be always very fast, they do need proper guidelines and easy manamgement of tools including scripts athat are very powerfull 15:45 < mnemoc> can't they affort _1_ decent home computer to do their builds? 15:45 < mnemoc> read decent as: 512 of RAM, more than 700Mhz, 30G of HD? 15:47 < veki> usually, they can but in many cases the can't. Iti s not problem to have 512megs ofram, it is only needed that they should know how much swap they should allocate. I am looking how to do screenshots of installation screens so I can write maunal for that 15:47 < veki> average is 450 Mhz, 40 GB HD, 128 0r 256 megs of RAM 15:48 < mnemoc> 1G is safe i would say 15:48 < mnemoc> of swap 15:49 < veki> however, it is not needed to be fast. If server or router is finished during the weekend, that is OK. If desktop is finished in 7 days that is OK. ONly iti s needed to write proper guidance so they know what to do 15:49 < mnemoc> some kde packages, and OOo and mozila-family are monster packages 15:49 < veki> OK, so we can recommend 1G of RAM that i sfine . If we put that in manual they will respect that and we will explain why is that so :_ 15:49 < veki> :) 15:50 < veki> 1g of swap is OK, but we have to put that exactly in manual 15:51 < morfoh> mnemoc: I thought 1GB of swap is senseless 15:51 < veki> ok, what is really needed size of swap? 15:51 < morfoh> the old rule swap = 2 * RAM doesn't apply anymore 15:52 < morfoh> mnemoc: or what do you think? 15:52 < mnemoc> morfoh: he has 128-256 of ram 15:52 < veki> so what is the real requirement. users will do what we put in manual. 15:52 < mnemoc> mnemoc: do you think he could build a full desktop with less memory? 15:53 < morfoh> less than 512MB isn't fun anyway 15:53 < mnemoc> s/mnemoc/morfoh/ 15:53 < morfoh> :) 15:53 < veki> hd space is not problem usually, so swap size is not an issue, but we have to tell that to the users 15:53 < morfoh> mnemoc: I'm your clone :) 15:53 < mnemoc> morfoh: i have failed due to memory with 512 + 1024 15:53 < veki> uhm.. 15:53 < morfoh> mnemoc: really ? what was wroing ? 15:54 < mnemoc> morfoh: kdesomething 15:54 < morfoh> mnemoc: why did it failed ? 15:54 < mnemoc> morfoh: 100% of memory usage and build frozen 15:54 < morfoh> mnemoc: that's not accaptable ... 15:54 < mnemoc> morfoh: and that wasn't a leak, jsaw had success with more memory 15:55 < mnemoc> morfoh: of course not, kde stinks 15:55 < morfoh> mnemoc: pfff...kde crap 15:56 < mnemoc> morfoh: i have do builds on veki-like machines, but servers or routers, never Xorg 15:56 < veki> yes, I have had the same probelm, kde apps are eating swap 15:56 < mnemoc> morfoh: and even that was a pain 15:56 < morfoh> mnemoc: I can imagine 15:57 < veki> mnemosyne was built for let say 36 hours... 15:57 < morfoh> veki: damn 15:57 < veki> I have to go now cu this evening... 15:57 < morfoh> it builds on a moderate P4 in less than 12h here I think 15:57 < morfoh> cu 15:57 < mnemoc> i joined rock with a p200/128 :) that why mnemosyne born 15:57 < veki> 36 hours for modest people is nothing . They make one server target in 2 years, since they do not need more 15:57 < morfoh> mnemoc: :D 15:58 < veki> bye, cyu this evening 15:58 -!- veki [~chatzilla@217.24.19.40] has left #t2 [] 15:58 < keinek> ? 15:59 < keinek> t2 is t2.... Just Do it! right? 16:00 < morfoh> keinek: what do you mean with t2 is t2 ? 16:01 < keinek> a way to say "dont break my balls" 16:01 < mnemoc> /.*/ p; 16:01 < morfoh> keinek: we can't break your balls anyway ... you shouldn't watch that much p0rn :) 16:02 < keinek> :) 16:02 < keinek> i know that veki want do something. 16:03 < morfoh> keinek: what he wants to do ? 16:03 < keinek> When i wanna have my own target, i work a lot, with the help of us, now i have my own target :) 16:03 < keinek> i just start... is the first step. 16:03 < keinek> but viking dont do that first step. 16:05 < keinek> t2 for everybody, is very dificult. 16:06 < keinek> a good idea is a Emerge System like debian. 16:07 < keinek> download the .gem automatic than compile, and of course recursive. 16:08 < keinek> for example, open office take a lot of time of compilation, so... that is a excelent package for emerge from web in .gem format. 16:08 < morfoh> keinek: ack. but it makes no sense for bashing veki if he isn't here, even if it's smart bashing 16:08 < mnemoc> Emerge is for building, another tool to fetch prebuilt packages from the place choose by your target maintainer is also needed 16:08 < morfoh> keinek: just talk to him "face to face" and ask him why he isn't starting 16:09 < keinek> right morfoh 16:09 < morfoh> keinek: and sharing knowledge and smartly forcing him to start 16:09 < keinek> i tell him that read the log :P 16:09 < morfoh> that's my opinion and at least my last 2 cents for the next 2h 16:09 < keinek> do you know that google have all log? 16:10 < morfoh> of course 16:10 < keinek> "no more secrets" :D 16:10 < morfoh> keinek: what the h*ll you're thinking I am ? :p 16:10 < mnemoc> morfoh 16:10 < morfoh> yep 16:11 < morfoh> mnemoc: what's up 16:11 < keinek> mnemoc, another package need the system that know the depend. 16:11 < mnemoc> morfoh is morfoh 16:11 < morfoh> mnemoc: that could be true 16:11 < morfoh> :p 16:11 < keinek> yes. is true 16:11 < keinek> mnemoc is mnemoc 16:11 < mnemoc> keinek: we know the build time dependencies 16:12 < keinek> now i building a generic t2. 16:12 < keinek> :) 16:13 < keinek> what is "bashing"? 16:13 < keinek> is like "basura" in spanish? 16:15 < morfoh> mnemoc: I started the minimal-p4 16:15 < mnemoc> keinek: it could be like 'basurear'... but i prefer 'calumniar' 16:15 < mnemoc> morfoh: boot built fine? 16:15 < morfoh> mnemoc: yep 16:15 < keinek> oh sh*T! i dont wanna bashing veki 16:16 < keinek> oh sh*t again! 16:16 < morfoh> keinek: I know 16:16 < keinek> i confusing veki with viking 16:16 < keinek> sorry 16:16 < keinek> sorry sorry sorry. 16:16 < morfoh> keinek: but it's not smart talking about while they aren't here 16:16 < morfoh> so anyway 16:16 < morfoh> bye bye 16:16 < mnemoc> cu morfoh 16:16 < morfoh> cu later 16:16 -!- morfoh [~jeru@mail.oberlinhaus.de] has left #t2 [] 16:16 < keinek> i am sorry i thing that veki was viking, and just looking a solution, i dont want bashing anybody. 16:17 < keinek> :( 16:17 < keinek> a bad day is starting ... 16:17 < keinek> and my english dont help me. 16:17 < mnemoc> keinek: officially 'to bash' is to hit strongly 16:18 < keinek> sorry too many words that i dont know. 16:18 < keinek> "oficialmente "to bash" is el mejor ...? 16:19 < mnemoc> keinek: hit=golpear 16:19 < keinek> i understand. 16:20 < keinek> but i dont wanna that, i do a mistake. 17:48 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.207.81.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 17:54 -!- sepp__ [~sepp@p213.54.214.151.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 17:54 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.207.81.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:11 -!- sepp_ [~sepp@p213.54.202.21.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:51 -!- karasz [~karasz@80.97.102.202] has left #t2 [] 18:51 -!- karasz [~karasz@80.97.102.202] has joined #t2 19:20 < karasz> guys what is exactly the --enable-final switch in kde-conf.in? 19:20 < mnemoc> no idea 19:21 < mnemoc> i assume something to remove extra debugging stuff 19:21 < karasz> hmmm 19:21 < _Ragnar_> re 19:21 < karasz> i have a package that builds fine on my t2 box without that switch 19:21 < _Ragnar_> any mono specialist here?:) 19:21 < karasz> but with that switch it fails to build 19:22 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: i haven't used it in more than a year 19:24 < karasz> mnemoc: 19:24 < karasz> As the developers cannot really use --enable-final, it gets easily broken. So please try to compile without --enable-final 19:24 < karasz> from koffice faq 19:25 < mnemoc> karasz: rene is kde maintainer, ask him why :) 19:25 < karasz> i will after i tested some more that matter :) 19:37 -!- morfoh [~jeru@p54BEB393.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 19:37 < morfoh> re hi 19:38 < mnemoc> hi morfoh 19:39 < morfoh> hi mnemoc 19:42 < karasz> huhu morfoh 19:43 < karasz> wellcome back :D 19:43 < morfoh> huhu karasz :) 19:43 < karasz> it should read `huhu to you too` isn't it? 19:44 < sepp__> `huhu to you too` - -bash: huhu: command not found 19:44 < sepp__> tideli 19:44 -!- sepp__ is now known as sepp 19:45 < karasz> mnemoc: if you are interested i found what that switch does 19:46 < mnemoc> karasz: tell us 19:46 < karasz> http://www.kerneltraffic.org/kde/kde20010615_14.html#5 19:47 < morfoh> hi sepp 19:47 < sepp> hi morfoh 19:48 < karasz> morfoh: i have news for you :) 19:49 < sepp> any one knows how i get a 4.2gb file on a dvdr, no please don't say split 19:51 < morfoh> karasz: what kind of news 19:51 < karasz> T2 has a very brand new package called Konversation 19:51 < karasz> sepp: tried overburn? 19:52 -!- karasz [~karasz@80.97.102.202] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.4/20050727]"] 19:56 -!- karasz [~root@80.97.102.202] has joined #t2 19:58 < karasz> morfoh: what should I send to the ML? 19:59 < karasz> i have 2 files a .desc and a .conf 19:59 -!- vilkacis [~supybot@ip4.conosurseguros.cl] has joined #t2 20:00 -!- mode/#t2 [+o vilkacis] by ChanServ 20:00 -!- vilkacis [~supybot@ip4.conosurseguros.cl] has quit [Client Quit] 20:01 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.70] has quit ["leaving"] 20:02 -!- vilkacis [~supybot@ip4.conosurseguros.cl] has joined #t2 20:02 -!- mode/#t2 [+o vilkacis] by ChanServ 20:03 -!- vilkacis [~supybot@ip4.conosurseguros.cl] has quit [Client Quit] 20:03 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.70] has joined #t2 20:04 -!- vilkacis [~supybot@ip4.conosurseguros.cl] has joined #t2 20:04 -!- mode/#t2 [+o vilkacis] by ChanServ 20:06 < mnemoc> vilkacis: list topic 20:11 < valentin> hi 20:11 < valentin> who is vilkacis and why is he op ? 20:14 < mnemoc> a bot 20:14 < mnemoc> i'm playing with 20:14 < mnemoc> vilkacis: topic 20:15 < mnemoc> arg 20:15 -!- vilkacis [~supybot@ip4.conosurseguros.cl] has quit ["Ctrl-C at console."] 20:16 < karasz> morfoh: still around? 20:19 -!- vilkacis [~supybot@ip4.conosurseguros.cl] has joined #t2 20:19 -!- mode/#t2 [+o vilkacis] by ChanServ 20:33 < CIA-9> ragnar * r10814 /trunk/package/network/tcp_wrappers/tcp_wrappers.conf: * tcp_wrappers: added -fPIC to fix linking on x86_64, shouldn't hurt other platforms 20:34 < CIA-9> ragnar * r10815 /trunk/package/filesystem/siefs/siefs.conf: * siefs: fix Makefile to build with lib64 20:35 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: don't we have a flag for -fPIC ? 20:36 < CIA-9> ragnar * r10816 /trunk/package/perl/perl-libxml/perl-libxml.conf: 20:36 < CIA-9> * perl-libxml: add -L/lib64 and -L/usr/lib64 to MakeMaker LIBS for x86_64. 20:36 < CIA-9> This screams for a more general fix. 20:37 < _Ragnar_> mnemoc: didn't work in this case I think 20:37 < mnemoc> why? 20:37 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 20:37 < _Ragnar_> this seems to be a special issue with _64, too ... this packages compile and link fine without -fPIC on _32 20:37 < minto> moin 20:38 < _Ragnar_> where would this flag be? 20:39 < mnemoc> [F] 20:39 < _Ragnar_> what does it do? O_O 20:40 < mnemoc> minto: what FPIC_QUICK flag does? 20:40 < minto> mnemoc: I have no clue :) 20:41 < _Ragnar_> I don't see this flag used anywhere in ./scripts 20:42 < mnemoc> # grep FPIC misc/share/PKG-FLAGS 20:42 < mnemoc> FPIC-QUIRK Packages which do not use -fPIC correctly and brake on certain 20:43 < _Ragnar_> yes, that's documentation ... but it doesn't actually do anything 20:43 < _Ragnar_> at least not that I see 20:44 < mnemoc> # grep FPIC-QUIRK package/*/*/parse-config* 20:44 < mnemoc> package/base/gcc/parse-config:[ "$desc_F" != "${desc_F/FPIC-QUIRK}" ] && var_append GCC_WRAPPER_APPEND ' ' '-fPIC' 20:46 < _Ragnar_> aahh ok 20:46 < mnemoc> vilkacis: topic 20:46 < _Ragnar_> duh ... that's the last place where I'd have looked 20:46 < mnemoc> :) 20:46 < mnemoc> imagine the mess if we hardcode those flags on scripts/Build-Pkg 20:46 < _Ragnar_> but ... this means, add the -fPIC unless this flag is used, or? 20:48 < _Ragnar_> and that didn't seem to work in this case 20:48 < karasz> moin minto 20:49 < minto> hi karasz 20:49 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: that's a trick 20:49 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: is desc_F does _change_ if you remove FPIC-QUIRK string 20:49 < _Ragnar_> uh ouch 20:50 < _Ragnar_> bash magic ;PPP 20:50 < mnemoc> :) 20:50 < mnemoc> that's the way to see if something contains another thing 20:50 < _Ragnar_> black magic ;p 20:51 < mnemoc> :) 20:51 < _Ragnar_> do we have a flag for 'fix MakeMaker broken pathness', too? 20:51 < mnemoc> not yet :) 20:53 < CIA-9> ragnar * r10817 /trunk/package/network/tcp_wrappers/ (tcp_wrappers.conf tcp_wrappers.desc): * tcp_wrappers: removed -fPIC patch and added FPIC-QUIRK flag to description ;) 20:54 < _Ragnar_> :D 20:55 -!- vilkacis [~supybot@ip4.conosurseguros.cl] has quit ["Ctrl-C at console."] 20:57 < karasz> mnemoc: i sent a mail to ML i wonder if it is the propper way for that situation 20:58 < mnemoc> karasz: ML is always the proper way :) 20:58 < karasz> i was reffering to the mail format, it has diff inline and attached 20:58 < karasz> which sould I use from now on? 20:59 < mnemoc> minute 20:59 -!- vilkacis [~supybot@ip4.conosurseguros.cl] has joined #t2 20:59 < minto> karasz: seems like your prefix is hardcoded 20:59 -!- mode/#t2 [+o vilkacis] by ChanServ 20:59 < minto> Do you want the same prefix as kde? 21:00 < karasz> yes 21:00 < karasz> but i cannot use kde-conf.in 21:01 < mnemoc> karasz: comments: [D] checksum is missing, use pkgprefix to get the prefix of other package, O pacakges are only packages which makes troubles on generic 21:02 < karasz> kde-conf.in uses --eanble-final which break konversation for some reason that is beyond my comprehension 21:03 < karasz> i know checksum is missing, but i do not know how to create checksum :( 21:03 < minto> ./scripts/Create-CkSumPatch 21:03 -!- vilkacis [~supybot@ip4.conosurseguros.cl] has quit [Client Quit] 21:04 < karasz> so i should use X not O? 21:04 < mnemoc> karasz: yes 21:04 < _Ragnar_> you can remove the --enable-final afterwards again 21:04 -!- vilkacis [~supybot@ip4.conosurseguros.cl] has joined #t2 21:04 < mnemoc> karasz: and use kde-conf.in but var_remove --eanble-final on your .conf 21:04 -!- mode/#t2 [+o vilkacis] by ChanServ 21:05 < minto> karasz: My preliminary package update document also describes how to set the proper checksum 21:09 < _Ragnar_> can I tell the wrapper somehow to s#opt/postgresql/lib#opt/postgresql/lib64# ? 21:09 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: libdir=$prefix/lib64 ? 21:10 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: but yes, you can do that on install_wrapper 21:10 -!- madtux [~mike@65.182.14.29] has joined #t2 21:11 < minto> howdy madtux 21:11 < mnemoc> hi madtux 21:12 < _Ragnar_> how so? 21:12 < minto> morfoh ping 21:12 < _Ragnar_> this package only has --with-postgresql= , not --with-postgresql-libdir= 21:12 < mnemoc> var_append INSTALL_WRAPPER_FILTER "|" "sed -e 's,usr/include/.*\.h,tmp/weg.h,'" 21:13 -!- vilkacis [~supybot@ip4.conosurseguros.cl] has quit ["Ctrl-C at console."] 21:13 < _Ragnar_> that's for install isn't it? 21:14 < mnemoc> yes 21:14 < mnemoc> what do you want? 21:14 < _Ragnar_> don't want that 21:14 < mnemoc> gcc -L ? 21:14 < _Ragnar_> package wants -lpq 21:14 < _Ragnar_> yes 21:14 -!- vilkacis [~supybot@ip4.conosurseguros.cl] has joined #t2 21:14 -!- mode/#t2 [+o vilkacis] by ChanServ 21:14 < mnemoc> var_append GCC_WRAPPER_APPEND ' ' -L$( pkgprefix libdir postgresl ) 21:14 < _Ragnar_> gcc currently gets -L/opt/postgresql/lib ... I want to transform that into -L/opt/postgresql/lib64 21:15 < mnemoc> var_append GCC_WRAPPER_REMOVE 21:15 < mnemoc> remove the wrong, append the good 21:15 -!- vilkacis [~supybot@ip4.conosurseguros.cl] has quit [Client Quit] 21:17 < _Ragnar_> :) ok thanks 21:18 < madtux> hello guys 21:18 < mnemoc> hello codetux 21:18 < _Ragnar_> hey hey 21:19 -!- vilkacis [~supybot@ip4.conosurseguros.cl] has joined #t2 21:19 -!- mode/#t2 [+o vilkacis] by ChanServ 21:21 < _Ragnar_> uhm! 21:22 < _Ragnar_> ERROR: No configuration 'default' found! 21:22 < _Ragnar_> the config is there and worked up to 2 min ago 21:22 < _Ragnar_> wtf? O_O 21:23 < _Ragnar_> I can't run more then one Build-Target at the same time any more? O_O 21:26 < minto> Oeps my other box is nearly out of space :( and not even halfway 2.2 reference build 21:26 < minto> Error logs from trunkref-2.2.0-alpha-x86-generic: 21:26 < minto> [5] x86/cpuburn [5] security/botan 21:26 < minto> [5] network/quagga [5] network/zebra 21:27 < minto> [5] graphic/pdftk [5] multimedia/xvidcap 21:27 < minto> [5] network/dansguardian [5] network/knetconf 21:27 < minto> [5] mail/courier-authlib [5] gnome2/gst-editor 21:27 < minto> [5] gnome2/gst-plugins 21:27 < minto> 1755 builds total, 808 completed fine, 11 with errors. 21:27 < mnemoc> if you have the _luck_ of getting it running Config in parallel you are doomed 21:27 < _Ragnar_> quagga duplicate files? 21:27 < mnemoc> morfoh: # ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg desktop 21:27 < mnemoc> Error logs from desktop-2.1.0-rc2-x86-pentium4-desktop: 21:27 < mnemoc> 677 builds total, 381 completed fine, 0 with errors. 21:27 < _Ragnar_> no not Config, just Build-Target ... Config trashes stuff ;p 21:28 < mnemoc> Build-Target calls Build-Tools which calls Config when needed 21:28 < _Ragnar_> oops ;) 21:28 < mnemoc> :) 21:28 < _Ragnar_> btw, Config trashing stuff is EEEEEVVIL! 21:29 < mnemoc> did you read "How Config works?" on trac? 21:29 < mnemoc> still WIP btw 21:30 < _Ragnar_> no 21:30 < _Ragnar_> maybe I should ;) 21:32 * minto starts to stare at the screen doing nothing. I think I am sleepy. 21:32 < _Ragnar_> :) 21:33 < minto> can't think and type anymore, I am off to bed. See you guys some other time. bzzzzzz bzzzzz 21:33 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.6/20050717]"] 21:34 < _Ragnar_> nini sleep well 21:34 < _Ragnar_> ;p 21:39 < karasz> i made all the recomandation you asked 21:39 < karasz> now i do not need konversation.conf because i put that in konversation.desc 21:39 < karasz> i will ML :) 21:41 < mnemoc> karasz: var_remove on .desc is bad practice 21:43 < karasz> :( 21:43 < karasz> but it is a practice... 21:43 < karasz> i didn't invent it 21:43 < mnemoc> :) 21:43 < karasz> so i should make a .conf? 21:44 < mnemoc> if you want to do it right, yes 21:44 < karasz> ok back to roots again :) 21:44 < karasz> at least the first should be made right. right? 21:44 < karasz> :D 21:45 < mnemoc> the source of kde-conf.in, yes 21:45 < mnemoc> because it define inherance 21:46 < karasz> so kde-conf.in goes in desc and remove in .conf? 21:46 < mnemoc> .oO( yuck... what ugly concept have i introduced on t2 )o 21:46 < mnemoc> karasz: yes 21:46 < karasz> or the whole stuff should go in .conf 21:46 < mnemoc> karasz: the inherence on .desc, and custom config on .conf 21:47 < karasz> ok 21:48 < Shingo--> I'm guess the bootdisk target is broken in 2.1.0-rc3. 21:48 < Shingo--> The minimal cd from torrent, it's ok. 21:50 < mnemoc> Shingo--: tell me more 21:51 < morfoh> Shingo--: :) 21:51 < Shingo--> the rc3 boot appears don't execute anything in "kiss". 21:51 < sepp> my rc3 bootdisk works fine in qemu 21:51 < Shingo--> I will goes to real setup, no vmware now. 21:51 < morfoh> mnemoc Shingo-- but good to know that the athlon-xp minimal is working 21:52 < Shingo--> I don't know qemu. 21:52 < Shingo--> :) 21:52 < mnemoc> Shingo--: works on ISOs but not on your build of 2.1:HEAD ? 21:52 < Shingo--> I don't understand. 21:52 < sepp> Revision: 10768 21:53 < mnemoc> i haven't changed anything on 2.1 since the tag of rc2 21:54 < sepp> ^ --- this bootdisk works fine 21:54 < Shingo--> ok, but i have tried in vmware and real test, the two don't work. 21:54 < Shingo--> the same thing occurs. 21:55 < mnemoc> Shingo--: you tried published isos or your own build? 21:55 < Shingo--> investigating, mount local of ISO nothing appears wrong. 21:55 < Shingo--> nope. 21:57 < karasz> now is korect? 21:58 < karasz> mnemoc: ? is it right this time? 21:59 < mnemoc> %topic add Avant Premier at http://torrent.t2-project.org/ 21:59 -!- vilkacis changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 | 2.1.0-rc2 TAGGED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Avant Premier at http://torrent.t2-project.org/ 21:59 < mnemoc> thanks vilkacis 22:02 < Shingo--> mnemoc: maybe I get install from minimal, after make a "mine -i *.gem"? 22:07 < mnemoc> Shingo--: what? 22:08 < karasz> mnemoc: i have to go now and i'd like to sleep with a warm and fuzzy feeling that i did something right today 22:09 < mnemoc> karasz: you forgot to X it 22:09 < Shingo--> sorry, with minimal I get a fresh install over gentoo? after may I install the system build. 22:09 < karasz> :( 22:09 < Shingo--> minimal ISO. 22:09 < mnemoc> Shingo--: mine -i *.gem installs all those .gem with DESTDIR=/ 22:10 < mnemoc> Shingo--: if that is not an empty partition or a non-T2-based machine, you will be in troubles 22:10 < Shingo--> ok, how fast would be the installation that way. 22:11 < Shingo--> I have a lot of partitions :) 22:11 < Shingo--> but, I will destroy gentoo. 22:12 < karasz> now i X-ed it 22:12 < Shingo--> well, I will goes to full installation now, I will see you later. 22:13 < mnemoc> Shingo--: you can give mine the root location 22:13 < karasz> can i have my fuzzy stuff now :? 22:14 < mnemoc> karasz: are you waiting for me to commit your patch? 22:15 < karasz> no 22:15 < mnemoc> karasz: you need to be more direct :) 22:15 < Shingo--> ok. thank you. 22:15 < karasz> i just wanted to know if it is following T2 standards 22:15 < mnemoc> karasz: looks good. works? 22:16 < karasz> yes 22:16 < karasz> i am in konversation now 22:17 < karasz> it builded with no problems except that --enable-final which now is resolved 22:17 < karasz> another stuff : how should i send the mails to ML diffs inline or attached? 22:19 < karasz> guys i am realy tired so cu tomorrow 22:24 -!- Shingo-- [~shingo@mercantile.wb.com.br] has quit ["Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/"] 22:32 < rxr> re 22:33 < rxr> karasz: we do not care about inline or not 22:33 < rxr> we are not pedantic - just send it how you like 22:34 < rxr> n8 all 22:35 < mnemoc> n8 rxr 22:37 < mnemoc> karasz: send it or i'll apply the preview one :p 23:53 < CIA-9> sebastian * r10818 /trunk/package/x11/worker/worker.desc: * updated worker (2.10.0 -> 2.10.2) 23:57 < sepp> someone knows why ^ has "[P] O" ? --- Log closed Fri Aug 05 00:00:00 2005