--- Log opened Tue Aug 02 00:00:00 2005
00:20 < keinek> hi
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00:33 < _Ragnar_> why is zebra built at stage 3 ?!?
00:33 < morfoh> re hi
00:33 < _Ragnar_> hey :)
00:34 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: dunno why it's build in stage 3
00:34 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: :)
00:34 < morfoh> what did I missed ?
00:34 < _Ragnar_> dunno
00:34 < _Ragnar_> I just came back from vegas
00:36 < morfoh> I did my relocation ... damn ... now I can write a book with a lot of funny stories
00:36 < _Ragnar_> oh?:)
00:36 < _Ragnar_> where did you relocate to/from?
00:37 < morfoh> from the south of B back to the city  :)
00:39 < _Ragnar_> ah ok ;)
00:39 < _Ragnar_> doesn't sound like such a big move :)
00:40 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: hmmm .... ack. the move itself wasn't that big 
00:41 < _Ragnar_> :) so what was?:)
00:41 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: as I told you. the story would fill a whole evening :)
00:42 < morfoh> and I'm just too tired
00:42 < _Ragnar_> :) ok
00:42 < _Ragnar_> I'll ask you tomorrow *hrhr*
00:42 < morfoh> I just had 3.5h sleep the last 2 days
00:43 < _Ragnar_> hmmm ok ... given the right amount of coffee that's not such a big deal ...;)
00:43 < sepp> moved and already internet - normally that takes 3 months with telekom :)
00:43 < morfoh> but now ... I'm seeing the "fernsehturm" again :)
00:43 < sepp> hi btw
00:44 < _Ragnar_> ah, wirelessly?:)
00:45 < sepp> took me 3 months and i had to visit the shop at least 10 times to get dsl...
00:47 < _Ragnar_> ^_^
00:47 < _Ragnar_> arcor?
00:48 < sepp> bad old telekom
00:50  * morfoh hates arcor + die telekomiker
00:52 < sepp> haha i hate them all, qsc wrote me: we have the hardware in your switching center but no we dont want
01:05 < morfoh> ok ... I'll go sleep 
01:06 < morfoh> if someone is taling to our release maintainer ... extend my greetings to him please ... goof night folks :)
01:06 < morfoh> talking
01:07 < sepp> good night morfoh 
01:07 < morfoh> good night sepp ...cu tomorrow
01:08 < morfoh> I'm using my ironing board as a desk atm ... isn't that comfortable ;)
01:08 < morfoh> had no time to build up the desk yet
01:08 < morfoh> hehe :)
01:08 < morfoh> bye bye
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01:08 < sepp> :D
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03:40 < mnemoc> gplflash mozilla plugin makes firefox unusable :\
04:08 < Shingo--> hi.
04:09 < Shingo--> mnemoc: are you have any ideas about my problem, 00-dirtree?
04:10 < Shingo--> my file 00-dirtree.desc is empty, this is right?
04:17 < mnemoc> nope
04:17 < mnemoc> that's wrong
04:19 < mnemoc> Shingo--: rm -rf 00-dirtree; svn up
04:19 < Shingo--> I got it. :)
04:19 < Shingo--> I was run svn revert *
04:20 < mnemoc> revert is similar
04:20 < mnemoc> but not recursive
04:20 < mnemoc> and doesn't affect deleted files because '*' doesn't match deleted files
04:21 < mnemoc> svn st tell you how is your tree
05:12 < keinek> mnemoc, the creative commond licence
05:12 < keinek> is ready for the .desc?
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05:12 < keinek> [L] ?
05:12 < mnemoc> keinek: CC is not for software
05:12 < mnemoc> keinek: but you can use 'OpenSource'
05:13 < keinek> "OpenSource"
05:13 < keinek> [L] OpenSource
05:13 < keinek> ?
05:14 < keinek> ahhh 
05:14 < keinek> ok
05:14 < keinek> GPL
05:14 < keinek> say GPL :)
05:16 < mnemoc> [L] OpenSource   is valid for 'other' open source licenses
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05:17 < mnemoc> i'll go to sleep....cu tomorrow
05:17 < _Ragnar_> cya
05:18 < mnemoc> cu _Ragnar_ 
05:18 < mnemoc> cu keinek 
05:19 < keinek> cu mnemoc 
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09:31 < morfoh> good morning
09:32 < mtr> hi morfoh 
09:33 < morfoh> hi mtr:9
09:33 < morfoh> :)
09:33 < morfoh> mtr: how for you ? 
09:34 < morfoh> ^pitchin english from africa what means "how are you?" ;)
09:34 < morfoh> mtr: still on "diet" ? ;)
09:35 < mtr> morfoh: thx, my kids woke me up at 6, so already @work for some time
09:35 < morfoh> mtr: oh! you've kids too :)
09:35 < morfoh> mtr: didn't knew it
09:36 < morfoh> mtr: ok .. I just have my little "rat" 
09:36 < morfoh> mtr: but it seems that he gets more "familiar" with the new flat
09:36 < mtr> morfoh: yep, many kids around here in #t2
09:36 < mtr> finished your move, successfully?
09:37 < morfoh> mtr: yes ... finally :)
09:37 < mtr> partially?
09:37 < morfoh> all done
09:41 < morfoh> mtr: yesterday I renovated the old flat. ok. replacing some parts of the wall paper which was "destroyed" by my little friend and painting all the sh*t
09:41 < morfoh> mtr: but the weekend was kind of turbolent
09:42 < morfoh> mtr: I've never experienced a weekend with such a mass of strange events
09:46 < mtr> strange events, in the meaning of chance (zufall), or do you had some transcendental experiences?
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10:04 < morfoh> mtr: I think it was a mixture of everything :)
10:05  * morfoh is taking a shower now 
10:39 < valentin> moin
10:40 < morfoh> moin valentin :)
10:40 < morfoh> valentin: how are you and your 2 girls ? :)
10:47 < valentin> nice, thank you
10:49 < valentin> mtr: i did not realize that you have kids, too :)
10:49 < morfoh> ok folks ... I'll go now... cu in about 1h 
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11:01 < mtr> hi valentin
11:03 < mtr> valentin: ohh yes, i guess i am more advanced in years than most ppl here ;) and same for the kids, the oldest is nearly 10
11:06 < valentin> oh, my daughter is about 3 weeks + 20h
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12:08 < morfoh> re hi
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12:55 < karasz> morfoh: hi, long time no see :D
13:03 < morfoh> karasz: yep ... :D
13:03 < morfoh> karasz: so how are you ... ?
13:07 < karasz> very well thank you..
13:07 < karasz> and you?
13:07 < karasz> how was your prelonged weekend?
13:08 < morfoh> karasz: oh! thanks, I'm quite well too, but a bit tired due to the relocation work. But finally I've finished it yesterday after I renovated the old flat.
13:08 < karasz> so you are now relocated?
13:09 < morfoh> yep
13:09 < karasz> congrats
13:09 < morfoh> thx 
13:09 < karasz> in the mean time i took another step in T2
13:09 < karasz> i am trying to build a new package for T2
13:10 < karasz> morfoh: do you have 2 mins for a query?
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15:30 < mnemoc> morfoh: how is the new flat?
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15:41 < mnemoc> morfoh: !
15:41 < mnemoc> hi keinek_ 
15:42 < keinek_> hi mnemoc 
15:42 < keinek_> hi everybody
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15:44 < morfoh> re hi
15:47 < mnemoc> hi morfoh 
15:47 < morfoh> :()
15:47 < morfoh> :)
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15:54 < CIA-9> chris * r10770 /trunk/package/security/vserver/vserver.desc: * updated vserver patch for linuxs26 (2.6.12.3-vs2.0-rc8 -> 2.6.12.3-vs2.0-rc9)
15:57 < mnemoc> sepp: hi, can we do the same for desktop-rc2-pmmx?
15:58 < mnemoc> sepp: i got an speed up of 1.72 against desktop-rc1-p4
15:59 < morfoh> mnemoc: what are you talking about ?
16:00 < mnemoc> rsync the ISOs
16:01 < morfoh> mnemoc: where can upload the athlon-xp iso set ?
16:01 < mnemoc> that's the big problem, nowhere to upload
16:01 < mnemoc> until rene returns
16:01 < mnemoc> and buy a new HD for gsmp
16:04 < morfoh> mnemoc: I could provide a temporary download location but I've to take care regarding the ttraffic limit
16:04 < morfoh> how much traffice do we have for isos ?
16:04 < mnemoc> no idea
16:04 < morfoh> mnemoc: is gsmp HD full or is the server damaged ?
16:05 < mnemoc> damaged
16:05 < morfoh> oh ! :/
16:06 < mnemoc> from long time ago
16:06 < morfoh> :(
16:06 < morfoh> so it would be interesting to know what traffic we've 
16:07 < mnemoc> valentin may know
16:07 < morfoh> QUESTION: does anybody else can provide download bandwidth?
16:08 < mnemoc> 15kBps is my international limit
16:08 < mnemoc> and my seeder (bt) seems to have routing troubles because noone can see it
16:09 < morfoh> mnemoc: anyway it woulkd be bad to screw up your intl. bandwidth
16:09 < morfoh> so anybdy from europe here is willing to prive some download space ?
16:09 < morfoh> provide
16:10 < mnemoc> i sent (rsync with ~2.0 speed up) minimaul-rc2-pmmx to sepp yesterday
16:10 < mnemoc> and he is seeding http://torrent.t2-project.org/
16:10 < morfoh> hmmm .... but I think we'll need some more mirrors 
16:11 < mnemoc> of course
16:11 < mnemoc> but bt is a way to share the bandwidth load
16:13 < karasz> re hi guys
16:13 < karasz> maybe i can help with a little bandwith :)
16:13 < morfoh> karasz: yes taht would be nice ... thanks :)
16:14 < karasz> how?
16:14 < morfoh> what kind of link do you have ?
16:14 < karasz> i do not know precisely...
16:14 < karasz> but it exceeds 256
16:14 < karasz> when it works
16:14 < karasz> i can leave bittorrent open
16:15 < karasz> but i cannot find any seeds :(
16:15 < mnemoc> karasz: none?
16:15 < karasz> none
16:15 < karasz> not even a tiny one
16:16 < karasz> i clicked pmmx from torrent.t2-project.org
16:16 < karasz> rc2 minimal
16:16 < mnemoc> wtf
16:16 < morfoh> ok guys I'll move home 
16:16 < morfoh> cu later then
16:17 < karasz> it say connecting to peers and it doesn't dld anything
16:17 < karasz> cu morfoh 
16:17 < sepp> huhu
16:18 < karasz> mnemoc: what should i do?
16:18 < sepp> hmmm my torrent client is running
16:18 < mnemoc> no clue
16:18 < karasz> i must go now but i will be back in 2 hours
16:18 < morfoh> moin sepp :)
16:18 < karasz> maybe we will sort out that then?
16:19 < sepp> hi morfoh 
16:19 < karasz> mnemoc: i am using abc could that be the problem?
16:19 < mnemoc> no idea, i don't know about bt
16:19 < karasz> me neither :(
16:20 < karasz> anyway maybe when i will come back someone can sort us out
16:20 < morfoh> yep ... bbl in 1h or so
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16:20 < karasz> cu in 2h
16:30 < CIA-9> mtr * r10771 /trunk/package/editors/tea/tea.desc: * updated tea (10.0 -> 10.2)
16:37 < CIA-9> mtr * r10772 /trunk/package/base/acl/acl.desc: * updated acl (2.2.28 -> 2.2.31)
16:37 < CIA-9> mtr * r10773 /trunk/package/contrib/rrdtool/rrdtool.desc: * updated rrdtool (1.2.9 -> 1.2.11)
16:45 < CIA-9> mtr * r10774 /trunk/package/multimedia/qdvdauthor/ (qdvdauthor.conf stdlib.patch): 
16:45 < CIA-9> * fixed qdvdauthor compile errors
16:45 < CIA-9> * include kde-conf.in
16:45 < CIA-9> * fixed xine plugin: testing for xine-lib instead of xine helps
16:48 < CIA-9> mtr * r10775 /trunk/package/games/enigma/ (. enigma.cache enigma.desc): * added enigma (0.92)
16:55 < mtr> re
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17:10 < mtr> hmmm, forgot to mention keinek as games maintainer in the log message :( sorry, keinek
17:12 < Shingo--> why to use this on manual?
17:12 < Shingo--> http://dl.exactcode.de/t2-handbook/html/msam10-58.gif
17:12 < Shingo--> it's a big image.
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17:15 < CIA-9> mtr * r10776 /trunk/package/multimedia/lirc/ (lirc.conf lirc.desc): * updated lirc (0.7.0 -> 0.7.1)
17:20 < CIA-9> mtr * r10777 /trunk/package/multimedia/vdr/ (vdr.conf vdr.desc): 
17:20 < CIA-9> * updated vdr plugins: femon (0.9.1), mplayer/mp3 (0.9.13)
17:20 < CIA-9> * now using match_source_file to locate skin files (trac issue #41)
17:27 < sepp_> mnemoc: ping
17:28 < mnemoc> sepp_: pong
17:28 < mnemoc> mtr: thanks :)
17:29 < sepp_> mnemoc: for some reason the torrent thing does not work
17:29 < mtr> mnemoc: your welcome :)
17:29 < mnemoc> sepp_: any clue?
17:30 < sepp_> no clue, it worked last time and i uploaded some 100mb
17:31 < mtr> morfoh: can you create a trac account for me? or do i have register myself on the trac site?
17:31 < mnemoc> mtr: no idea
17:32 < mnemoc> mtr: btw, match_source_file doesn't need package name if it's for the curretn package
17:32 < mnemoc> mtr: -p gives it with the full path
17:32 < mnemoc> mtr: and it support patterns, so you can do it on a single call
17:33 < mtr> mnemoc: sure? i can match multiple file patterns with a single call?
17:33 < mnemoc> a single pattern
17:33 < mnemoc> but multiple files
17:33 < mnemoc> '\(foo\|bar\|blah\)' must work
17:34 < mtr> ahh, ok, i tried it but i guess my pattern was not ok then
17:35 < mnemoc> i don't remember if it's grep or sed expression... but it support multifiles
17:53 < karasz> re hi *
17:53 < karasz> mnemoc: any news on the torrent?
17:54 < karasz> i left it open from when i left.. :( now connecting to peers
17:54 < karasz> nothing done
17:55 < karasz> i noticed that the link on torrent.t2-project.org does not point to a file which ennds in .torrent
18:00 < karasz> Shingo--: you must be kiddin' :) from my point of view it is only a pipe....
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18:15 < karasz> sepp_: any news on bittorrent?
18:16 < sepp_> no i have no clue what the problem is
18:16 < karasz> :(
18:28 < karasz> i checked my abc client and with other torrents it works....
18:28 < karasz> i do not know what to do
18:29 < karasz> what clent did you use to create the torrent?
18:31 < karasz> sepp_: i have update on the bittorrent
18:32 < karasz> it says scrapping done and it has 2 seeds
18:32 < karasz> but it tries to connect only to ip 0.0.0.0 and 127.0.0.1 :?
18:32 < karasz> is this info usefull?
18:33 < sepp_> huuuh???
18:34 < karasz> abc say that it has 2 seeds and 1 peer
18:34 < sepp_> and the 2 seeds are 0.0.0.0 and localhost?
18:34 < karasz> only connections i can see from abc are to 0.0.0.0 and 127.0.0.1
18:34 < karasz> i think taht is a little strange
18:35 < karasz> i don't know if those are the seeds but abc is allways cinnected to 127.0.0.1 and 0.0.0.0
18:35 < karasz> if the torrent works than other ip show up
18:36 < karasz> should i try a different client?
18:36 < karasz> what do u suggest?
18:36 < sepp_> i do not know
18:36 < karasz> i'll make a try
18:56 < mnemoc> # btshowmetainfo.py t2-minimal-2.1.0-rc2-pmmx.torrent
18:56 < mnemoc> btshowmetainfo 20021207 - decode BitTorrent metainfo files
18:56 < mnemoc> metainfo file.: t2-minimal-2.1.0-rc2-pmmx.torrent
18:56 < mnemoc> info hash.....: 3310fe9abd37a3eb080e2834abd9af0ff9744e24
18:56 < mnemoc> directory name: t2-minimal-2.1.0-rc2-pmmx
18:56 < mnemoc> files.........: t2-minimal-2.1.0-rc2-pmmx.md5 (138) t2-minimal-2.1.0-rc2-pmmx_cd1.iso (151595008) t2-minimal-2.1.0-rc2-pmmx_index.txt (47006)
18:56 < mnemoc> archive size..: 151642152 (578 * 262144 + 122920)
18:56 < mnemoc> announce url..: http://torrent.t2-project.org/announce
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19:01 < morfoh> re hi
19:02 < mnemoc> hi morfoh 
19:07 < mnemoc> sepp_: i was told to try http://torrentspy.sourceforge.net/
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19:10 < karasz> NickServ IDENTIFY karasz
19:10 < morfoh> so we wanna go with using torrent 
19:10 < morfoh> karasz: you should open a seperate window for your IRC auth. 
19:10 < morfoh> ;)
19:10 < mnemoc> morfoh: as an alternative
19:10 < morfoh> mnemoc: yes
19:10 < morfoh> mnemoc: it's quite ok ... but I'm a bit afraid using it
19:11 < mnemoc> morfoh: we need to also provide ftp
19:11 < mnemoc> morfoh: but bt helps to share bandwidth load
19:11 < sepp_> i wonder what i should do with torrentspy pascal code
19:11 < morfoh> mnemoc: if that wouldn't burn my server's traffic limit per month
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19:13 < mnemoc> sepp_: oh
19:14 < _Ragnar_> moin
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19:15 < karasz> hi guys i am back
19:15 < karasz> no luck with azureus either
19:15 < mnemoc> sepp_: <init0> mnemoc: there is no port given in the annouce url
19:16 < karasz> azureus finds no seeds and only 1 peer
19:16 < morfoh> moin Ragnar 
19:16 < mnemoc> karasz: and now?
19:16 < mnemoc> karasz: does it tell the addresses of the peers?
19:18 < karasz> 201.235.64.18
19:19 < mnemoc> only that one for minimal-rc2-pmmx?
19:19 < karasz> all my bittorrent clients run through NAT on port 4500
19:19 < karasz> yse only that one
19:19 < karasz> is this a problemm (port 4500) ?
19:20 < karasz>  other ips apear but almost instantly disapear (i guess i could't connect to them)
19:22 < sepp_> uhm what a shitty p2p app
19:24 < Shingo--> :) no problem:
19:24 < Shingo--> http://www.mercadodepublicidade.com.br/~shingo/t2-bootdisk/regressions.html
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19:34 < karasz> guys i am lost i dunno what to do with that bittorrent thingy...
19:37 < karasz> what does swarm mean?
19:37 < karasz> it say that 0 connected , 2 in swarm
19:51 < karasz> guys ping
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19:59 < karasz> guys maybe an ed2k distribution?
20:12 < mnemoc> sepp_: can you update your .torrent? http://t2.geeks.cl/mirror/torrent/
20:12 < sepp_> mnemoc: yes
20:14 < sepp_> hui now it looks like it is working
20:14 < mnemoc> yes?
20:15 < sepp_> at least i see 2 peers
20:15 < sepp_> uhm now they dissapeared
20:16 < mnemoc> :(
20:16 < karasz> mnemoc: it works for me now
20:16 < karasz> :)
20:16 < mnemoc> karasz: how many seeders?
20:17 < karasz> 3
20:17 < mnemoc> how many seeding to you?
20:17 < karasz> just a moment
20:18 < karasz> 3 are seeding to me
20:18 < karasz> i mean i am dlding from 3 ips
20:19 < sepp_> :)
20:19 < karasz> but i am not uploading...
20:19 < karasz> why?
20:20 < sepp_> because you are the only one downloading the iso?
20:20 < karasz> i guess :D
20:20 < sepp_> whatever this is in bt lingo
20:20 < mnemoc> sepp_: do you want desktop-rc2-pmmx via rsync or bt?
20:20 < karasz> should i make the same for desktop iso?
20:21 < mnemoc> karasz: one at the time
20:21 < karasz> ok
20:21 < mnemoc> you will melt my dsl
20:21 < karasz> i'll put it in quee
20:21 < karasz> so when minimal is down descyop starts
20:21 < karasz> if this is ok with you mnemoc 
20:22 < sepp_> mnemoc: later i have to backup lots of things, only 2gb left ...
20:22 < mnemoc> sepp_: ok
20:22 < karasz> i mean i do not need those isos, i am downloading them just for sharing
20:22 < mnemoc> karasz: if you will keep seeding, download it.
20:22 < karasz> i mean i do not need those isos, i am downloading them just for sharing
20:23 < karasz> for at least a week i will share
20:23 < karasz> after that i am goin on vacation until August 25
20:23 < karasz> after aug 25 i will continue to seed
20:23 < karasz> is this ok?
20:23 < mnemoc> no problem
20:26 < CIA-9> jsaw * r10778 /trunk/package/x11/netpbm/netpbm.desc: * update netpbm (10.26.4 -> 10.28)
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20:38 < minto> hi all
20:39 < karasz> hi minto 
20:59 < _Ragnar_> /usr/src/t2-64/build/default-2.2.0-alpha-x86-64-generic/usr/include/asm-x86_64/posix_types.h:18: error: conflicting types for '__kernel_size_t'
20:59 < _Ragnar_> /usr/src/t2-64/build/default-2.2.0-alpha-x86-64-generic/usr/dietlibc/include/asm/types.h:31: error: previous declaration of '__kernel_size_t' was here
21:00 < _Ragnar_> why the fuck does dietlibc redefine kernel symbols???
21:02 < minto> brb
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21:13 < mnemoc> morfoh: do you have any news about p4 and athlonxp ISOs?
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21:31 < karasz> sdsd
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21:43 < CIA-9> amery * r10779 /trunk/package/contrib/rtai/rtai.desc: * updated rtai (24.1.13 -> 3.2)
21:43 < CIA-9> mtr * r10780 /trunk/package/security/gnupg/gnupg.desc: * updated gnupg (1.4.1 -> 1.4.2)
21:44 < CIA-9> mtr * r10781 /trunk/package/security/openhbci2/openhbci2.desc: * updated openhbci2 (1.9.2 -> 1.9.3)
21:44 < karasz> so morfoh do you have time to impersonate a proffessor?
21:44 < CIA-9> mtr * r10782 /trunk/package/x11/freenx/freenx.desc: * updated freenx (0.4.0 -> 0.4.2)
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22:08 < bfg> Hi
22:09 < mnemoc> hi bfg 
22:11 < bfg> i started a new build today. (i accidentially destroyed my build-dir. :( ), but now i have the problem, that some dirs in build/$SDECFG_ID/var/adm are not created
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22:16 -!- Topic for #t2:  T2 | 2.1.0-rc2 TAGGED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/
22:16 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Wed Jul 27 20:43:09 2005]
22:16 [Users #t2]
22:16 [ _Ragnar_] [ dsoul ] [ keinek_] [ morfoh] [ rxr  ] [ Shingo--     ] 
22:16 [ bfg     ] [ jsaw  ] [ minto  ] [ mtr   ] [ rxr_ ] [ sparc-kly[U2]] 
22:16 [ CIA-9   ] [ karasz] [ mnemoc ] [ nzg   ] [ sepp_] [ valentin     ] 
22:16 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 18 normal]
22:16 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug  8 21:15:33 2004
22:16 -!- [freenode-info] why register and identify?  your IRC nick is how people know you.  http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
22:16 < mnemoc> i'm used to http://pastebin.ca/ but use whichever you want 
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22:17 < mnemoc> hi rxr 
22:18 < bfg> is there anything else i have to fill in at pastebin? (i never used such a tool before )
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22:18 < mnemoc> bfg: just paste :)
22:19 < bfg> I see, i got an url :) http://pastebin.ca/19124
22:20 < mnemoc> and before that?
22:20 < bfg> the two lines with Creating dirs in .... is an echo_error from Build_Pkg which i putted in for debugging
22:20 < bfg> there is nothing before
22:21 < mnemoc> uhm
22:21 < bfg> ah and the two lines after cmd_wrapper are also from me. (just for ensuring that all wrappers are created, because i had yesterday random problems with it)
22:22 < mnemoc> i have never seen that problem before...
22:22 < bfg> me too, and i couldn't track down this problem, so i thought i will ask someone in irc :)
22:23 < bfg> the only thing that i see in this log is, that all dirs are created in TOOLCHAIN/tools.chroot/var/adm
22:23 < mnemoc> give me a minute
22:24 < bfg> but this is not an symlink or anything else
22:24 < mnemoc> ./scripts/Build-Target -cfg test
22:24 < mnemoc> Building tools in build/.../TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross:
22:24 < mnemoc> -> Building tools.cross/wrapper/cmd_wrapper.
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22:25 < mnemoc> .cross, not .chroot
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22:25 < bfg> i thougt for stage 0 this should be tools.chroot
22:25 < CIA-9> ragnar * r10783 /trunk/package/network/madwifi/postlinux.conf: * set the right target for x86_64
22:26 < mnemoc> bfg: .chroot i since stage 2
22:26 < bfg> but this explains the problem, because with tools.cross i found extra code which handles the dri-creation
22:26 < bfg> dir-creation
22:26 < mnemoc> bfg: how did you call Build-Target ?
22:27 < bfg> Build-Target -cfg bootdisk ( :) just like described on the web page )
22:27 < bfg> .i've forgotten to mention ./script/
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22:28 < mnemoc> bfg: can you add set -x on scripts/parse-config:69   and set +x on scripts/parse-config:81 ?
22:28 < bfg> sure
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22:29 < bfg> toolsdir=tools.chroot
22:29 < mnemoc> before that?
22:30 < bfg> ROCK_THIS_IS_CHROOT is set to 1
22:30 < mnemoc> ROCK_THIS_IS_CHROOT on your env ?
22:30 < mnemoc> what is it doing there??
22:31 < bfg> yes there is one in the env... i have no idea how i got this into my env ....
22:32 < mnemoc> remove it please :)
22:32 < bfg> already done... problem solved.... thanks for your help...
22:34 < karasz> dobre vecer Veki 
22:35 < mnemoc> bfg: i wonder how did it get there
22:35 < Veki> karasz: dobro vecer karasz
22:35 < Veki> karasz: howa re you doing?
22:36 < karasz> good thank you
22:36 < Veki> I am building desktop target rc3, it goes well so far
22:36 < bfg> mnemoc: i have no idea..... maybe there was an older run of a build-script which i interrupted, but that shoud normally not left any env-vars in the calling shell
22:36 < karasz> just trashed my samba server but other than that good :)
22:36 < Veki> ok, good:)
22:37 < mnemoc> bfg: very weird
22:37 < Veki> have you tried USB/Ethernet interface with t2?
22:37 < mnemoc> Veki: keinek use an usb modem
22:38 < Veki> mnemoc: great, i will soon get ADSAl line directly connected to my t2 machine, but their modem is USB and it should work fine
22:38 < mnemoc> i hope
22:39 < bfg> mnemoc: maybe i should write a faq for weird problems :) ... it seems, that with my trials of building t2 i have some of them (wrappers which are not created..... env-vars which should not be there...) i hope there are not more problems like them
22:39 < Veki> mnemoc: I asked them and they told me that it should work fine.  I suppose that hey do not install the last technology things.  Anyway, USB modems are not anything special and I suppose that 2.6 kernels should have support for those modems
22:42 < mnemoc> bfg: :)
22:43 < Veki> bfg: yes, I think that tis is important, proper troubleshooting may be excellent gudie for users
22:43 < mnemoc> Veki: iirc speedtouch module is broken and you need to replace it with a third-party, but yes. it should work
22:43 < Veki> guide =guide
22:43 < mnemoc> guide=guide, ack :)
22:43 < Veki> :)
22:48 < Veki> ADSL will be 256kbps.  I hope that is enough for fast downloading of files for targets
22:48 < karasz> how to remove packages from T2?
22:49 < karasz> is there ./scripts/EmergePkg -purge?
22:49 < _Ragnar_> mine -r package
22:49 < morfoh> re  hi
22:49 < karasz> re hi morfoh 
22:49 < Veki> hi morfoh
22:49 < morfoh> hi all together 
22:49 < Veki> :)
22:49 < mnemoc> karasz: mine -r   ... a package emerged is identical to a package installed
22:50 < Veki> willkommen
22:50 < morfoh> Veki: danke
22:50 < Veki> morfoh: Ich habe ein t2 computer
22:51 < mnemoc> same do i :)
22:51 < Veki> :)
22:51 < morfoh> oh! seems that we switch from english to german as default lang here :)
22:51 < mnemoc> no thanks :)
22:51 < morfoh> but this will make me lazy I think :)
22:51 < Veki> I have learnt german a couple of years ago.  I can take again those textbooks, so we can speak german too.
22:52 < morfoh> mnemoc: but especially for you that would be great :)
22:52 < morfoh> Veki: nah
22:52 < mnemoc> morfoh: uhm
22:52 < morfoh> mnemoc: you know what I mean ;)
22:52 < Veki> Ich I like languages.  I started to learn sanskrit
22:52 < mnemoc> yes
22:52 < morfoh> mnemoc: so no "uhm" allowed 
22:52 < morfoh> :)
22:53 < sepp_> hmm where is my cyrillic keyboard :D
22:53 < mnemoc> i tried sanskrit some years ago
22:53 < mnemoc> but no time to continue
22:53 < Veki> you can say: Ah, schaise...
22:53 < karasz> guys do not go language crazy here... :D
22:53 < morfoh> Veki: scheisse
22:53 < Veki> sanskrit is nice, actually, serbian langugae does have a lot of words originating from sanskrit
22:53 < Veki> morfoh: OK, I forgot, but I will learn, I promiuse
22:54 < karasz> because if you do i will post all my stuff in japanese
22:54 < karasz> :D
22:54 < mnemoc> :)
22:54 < morfoh> mnemoc: so what is current status of the ISO's ?
22:55 < morfoh> mnemoc: P4 at least makes some problems on different machines here
22:55 < Veki> for example. animal bear we say medved *hungarians say medve). That word is ethimologically consisted of two words: veda=knowledge  and med=honey.,.,So medved i animal which knows where is honey.  
22:55 < morfoh> mnemoc: but I started a fresh build on "monster" at work today
22:55 < mnemoc> karasz: chipatama
22:55 < morfoh> all I have available is Athlon-XP desktop and boot atm
22:56 < karasz> mnemoc: my words exactly :D
22:56 < mnemoc> morfoh: i'll try minimal-p4 here
22:56 < mnemoc> karasz: :)
22:56 < morfoh> mnemoc: ok
22:56 < morfoh> mnemoc: today I experienced a strange problem while building mono
22:56 < morfoh> on P4 desktop
22:57 < morfoh> the build of the package freezed in some way 
22:57 < morfoh> mnemoc: but not the whole machine 
22:57 < morfoh> it was quite strange but I had no time for examining it
22:59 < mnemoc> morfoh: http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/publish.sh
23:00 < karasz> but mnemoc how does chipatama come into picture here? :?
23:01 < Veki> uhm, what is chipatama?
23:02 < karasz> mnemoc: oumu is not chipatama for sure
23:03 < mnemoc> it's the only word on japanese i know :)
23:03 < Veki> mnemoc :D
23:04 < mnemoc> chipatama=dickhead afaik
23:04 < morfoh> dickhead ?
23:04 < morfoh> where am I ?
23:04 < Veki> mnemoc:  I worked with guys from yamaha and I know more words, chi8nese is more interesting for me, because many ideograms are like metaphors
23:04 < morfoh> p0rn channel ?
23:04 < Veki> morfoh: it is anatomy chanle?
23:04 < mnemoc> :)
23:04 < karasz> first things to know in japanese http://www.notam02.no/~hcholm/altlang/ht/Japanese.1.html 
23:05 < mnemoc> hehe
23:05 < morfoh> Veki: yes ... ic. we're very big anatomists ;)
23:05 < Veki> I suppose that chipatama is not recommended word to say after hello..
23:05 < mnemoc> :)
23:06 < morfoh> Veki: hello dickhead :)
23:06 < mnemoc> =)
23:06 < morfoh> oh! no! hello dickhead of a vampre :)
23:06 < Veki> morfoh: Ah, yes a good freind of mine worked at the institute of anatomy, and I was at the time 16 years ago, employed in chemistry industruy and I prepared fro him special chemicals fro fiaxation of parts of human body....
23:06 < morfoh> Veki: no furthe details please :)
23:06 < Veki> :)
23:07 < Veki> morfoh: ah yes, it is not to speak about that during lunch or so...
23:07 < morfoh> Veki: why not ... ?
23:07 < Veki> anyway, it wa svery useful, especial knowing more about neuroanatomy
23:07 < morfoh> Veki: you don't hae to eat a dickhead anyway
23:07 < morfoh> have
23:07 < Veki> some parts of human body are not looking so nice, not smelling so nice to speak about them during lunch
23:08 < Veki> I am vegetarian anyway :)
23:08 < Veki> in some triebs those parts as chipatama are served
23:08 < Veki> triebs=tribes
23:09 < Veki> anyway, I am vegetarian:)
23:09 < Veki> My excellent experience from anatomy is that humans are much more powerfull and that interest for operating systems is natural... 
23:10 < morfoh> hmmmm .. and today the chief is recommending dickhead in mustard sauce
23:10 < Veki> overcoming medieval passive authority of etxt and coming into powerfull text as it is bash script or program source code is for humans natural, Microsoft is pathogene and it degrade human potentials
23:10 < Veki> etxt=text
23:11 < Veki> I see free software as a part of natural human development and exposing potentials of human brian.  inhibition fo those potentials lead to malfunctioning mind that cause wars
23:12 < Veki> brian=brain
23:12 < mnemoc> morfoh: can you send me your .torrent and start seeding? :)
23:14 < morfoh> mnemoc: I think so
23:14 < Veki> guys, I have to go to sleep since I have to wake up early in the morning
23:14 < Veki> cu
23:14 < morfoh> cu
23:14 < karasz> cu Veki 
23:14 < Veki> cu guys
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23:16 < karasz> guys i am goin crazy here with that shitty smb4k
23:16 < karasz> where the heck is it storing info abount th emounted shares?
23:22 < Shingo--> mnemoc: hi, did you see my last Regression Report?
23:23 < mnemoc> Shingo--: looks nice :)
23:34 < Shingo--> my only problem was "--changeword" in m4, did you remember? automake don't compile.
23:34 < Shingo--> I have tried to, change after stage 1 to try compile without option, but no success.
23:35 < mnemoc> iirc i leave that option on m4.conf
23:38 < karasz> guys it is too much for me now
23:38 < karasz> i must go to sleep
23:38 < karasz> so sayonara :D
23:38 < mnemoc> gn8 parrot 
23:39 < morfoh> yep ... good night karasz :)
23:39 < karasz> oumu is the alternative
23:39 < karasz> gn8 all
23:39 < karasz> cu you tomorrow
23:40 < mnemoc> cu karasz 
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23:53 < CIA-9> amery * r10784 /trunk/package/editors/pida/ (. pida.desc): * added pida (0.2.2pre)
23:54 < mnemoc> hi madtux 
23:54 < mnemoc> madtux: how did the sparc64 build go?
23:55 < madtux> not good... i'm experiencing hardware problems
23:56 < mnemoc> :(
23:56 < madtux> which i am taking care of
23:56  * morfoh is wearing my asbestos glove a shakes pyro's hands
23:57 < morfoh> hi madtux 
23:57 < mnemoc> :)
23:57 < madtux> hello morfoh 
23:58 < morfoh> madtux: so ic you burned your sparc
23:58 < madtux> something like that
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