T2 IRC Log: 2005-07-15

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--- Log opened Fri Jul 15 00:00:00 2005
00:01 < veki> yes, I found it th eboth, useful and outdated. I am really willing to help in that. I am not developer. I am primarily artist. That is why I am a bit neat picky :-). However, i am willing to contribute a smuch as I can, since I think that t2 is excellent project and it should be accessible and usable by people who are not developers and its problem solving methods, administration, description of purpose of certain funtions and targets may be very useful. I am aw
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00:01 < keinek> night
00:01 < keinek> :)
00:05 < veki> :)
00:16 < sparc-kly> hi
00:22 < veki> soarc-kly: hi
00:24 < sepp> hi *
00:27 < morfoh> hi sepp sparc-kly
00:28 < sepp> is there a amd64 minimal iso? all i need is a 64 bit gcc, gdb
00:28 < sepp> amd64 ...
00:29 < morfoh> sepp: dunno ... minto has one build but it doesn't boot atm ... don't know why ...
00:30 < sepp> uhm :(
00:30 < morfoh> afaic it's just a Emerge of syslinux which would solve it ....
00:30 < morfoh> but perhaps the best would be to ask minto
00:31 < sepp> ok
00:33 < morfoh> good night folks
00:34 < sepp> good night little blue butter fly
00:34 < veki> good night morfoh, sleep well
00:34 < morfoh> hehe ... hopefully the "rat" will let the butterfly sleep
00:34 < veki> hehe
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04:02 < CIA-9> jsaw * r10214 /trunk/package/network/tcpdump/tcpdump.desc:
04:02 < CIA-9> * update tcpdump (3.9.2 -> 3.9.3)
04:02 < CIA-9> not tested!
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04:04 < CIA-9> jsaw * r10215 /trunk/package/base/lvm2/lvm2.desc:
04:04 < CIA-9> * update lvm2 ( 2.01.12 -> 2.01.13 )
04:04 < CIA-9> NOT TESTED (but previous sources were not av. anymore)
04:05 < mnemoc_> jsaw: they are on my mirrors :)
04:06 < CIA-9> jsaw * r10216 /trunk/package/archiver/dpkg/dpkg.desc:
04:06 < CIA-9> * update dpkg (1.13.9 -> 1.13.10)
04:06 < CIA-9> NOT TESTED (but previous sources not av. anymore)
04:06 < jsaw> mnemoc_: ...
04:06 < jsaw> mnemoc_: is there no mirroring between the mirrors?
04:08 < mnemoc_> there are two centers
04:08 < mnemoc_> rene and i
04:08 < mnemoc_> now idea how often rene update his mirrors
04:08 < jsaw> :(
04:08 < mnemoc_> i do it every 4 hours
04:10 < jsaw> .oO(should I commit linux26-sources or not ...)
04:10 < mnemoc_> no
04:11 < jsaw> why not?
04:11 < mnemoc_> rene doesn't want linux sources on T2 machines
04:12 < keinek> hi mnemoc_
04:12 < mnemoc_> that was a long fight, and we surrended
04:12 < mnemoc_> hi keinek
04:12 < keinek> i make three new package
04:12 < keinek> but...
04:12 < jsaw> wtf do I have to unpack the kernel sources, patch them, correct the link in lib/modules/whatever to do some module development
04:12 < keinek> i think that i make a mistake.
04:12 < keinek> if one package dep by other
04:12 < keinek> [P] X -----5---9 800.110 <-- that number
04:13 < keinek> must be bigger?
04:13 < mnemoc_> keinek: depending of it dependencies
04:13 < keinek> Siad need neXtaw, and mowitz
04:14 < keinek> siag is 800.108
04:14 < keinek> neXtaw 800.109
04:14 < keinek> and mowitz 800.110
04:14 < mnemoc_> jsaw: export SDEDEBUG_LINUX_SUBMODULES_ONLY=yes and pkg_linux26_pre.conf and postlinux.conf
04:17 < mnemoc_> jsaw: he even removed the patches to make install becasue "we don't use make install"
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04:19 < jsaw> linux26: patch-2.6.12.2.bz2
04:19 < jsaw> e.g.
04:20 < mnemoc_> keinek: where do your packages install?
04:20 < keinek> sorry mnemoc_
04:20 < keinek> i fix the error
04:21 < mnemoc_> .oO( what error? it was a question )o
04:21 < keinek> i need to compile neXtaw, mowitz and Siad
04:21 < keinek> in that orden
04:21 < keinek> but i put the numbers in bad orden.
04:21 < jsaw> mnemoc_: not using make install, that's have the truth. (eval $MAKE modules_install)
04:22 < keinek> now i send the mail with the correct order
04:22 < keinek> :)
04:22 < keinek> this is a New office package for T2!
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04:23 < mnemoc_> jsaw: i meaned, "linux-source is considered very harmfull" and everything posible will be done against it
04:25 < jsaw> yeah I know the arguments
04:25 < jsaw> but now that I wanted to do a bit of module development, I have to say that it is awful
04:26 < mnemoc_> postlinux.conf: false <--- would make it abort and you will have a source to play with it inside debug.sh
04:29 < jsaw> doesn't really fit into "SDE"... well, I have my linux26-source package now, so ...
04:29 < mnemoc_> :)
04:30 < jsaw> I should sleep a bit (damn)
04:30 < jsaw> sun starts setting...
04:31 < mnemoc_> :\
04:32 < jsaw> g'night all
04:33 < mnemoc_> gn8 jsaw
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05:06 < CIA-9> amery * r10217 /trunk/package/base/libpcap/libpcap.desc: * updated libpcap (0.9.2 -> 0.9.3)
05:30 < CIA-9> amery * r10218 /trunk/package/network/apache/openssl-0.9.8.patch: * fixed apache to support the new openssl API
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09:09 < morfoh> moin
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09:47 < karasz> moin all
10:00 < morfoh> moin mr. pgsqlcluster
10:35 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2
10:35 < minto> hi all
10:36 < karasz> hi minto
10:36 < karasz> hi morfoh
10:37 < karasz> pgsql can not be openmosix-ed :(
10:37 < karasz> it uses shared memmory
10:40 * karasz is reading sca.pdf.....shutting up for now :~)
10:41 < minto> Have you looked into distributed shared memory?
10:42 < karasz> minto: yep
10:42 < karasz> won't work
10:42 < karasz> damn postgres does not use semaphores
10:42 < karasz> so no distributed shared memmory
10:44 < karasz> http://opensource.codito.com/migshm/assumptions.php
11:05 < morfoh> hi minto
11:05 < minto> hi morfoh
11:05 < minto> Are you already doing some of the daily updates?
11:06 < morfoh> minto: not yet
11:06 < minto> I intend to add the keinek packages and some of the t2-updates
11:06 < morfoh> minto: feel free to do so ;)
11:06 < minto> ack
11:06 < morfoh> :)
11:14 < rxr> hi all
11:14 < rxr> ok - have a ice weekend then ...
11:14 < rxr> cu
11:15 < morfoh> cu rene
11:25 < minto> Two seconds not watching and rene has come and gone. Boy is he fast. :-)
11:25 < minto> I have to switch OS, brb
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11:28 < minto> Kiekaboo, there I am again.
11:29 < morfoh> :)
11:29 < minto> Now let's see how well unison can synchronize
11:34 < minto> and done :) synchronizing the whole 2.1 and trunk branches including downloads
11:34 < minto> dsoul: Thanks for pointing me to unison :-)
11:36 < dsoul> minto: np :)
11:42 < morfoh> hi dsoul :)
11:43 < dsoul> hi morfoh :)
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11:52 < CIA-9> msluis * r10219 /trunk/package/base/automake/automake.desc: * update automake (1.9.5 -> 1.9.6)
11:54 < morfoh> minto: can you schedule a ref build on noisy ?
11:54 < morfoh> minto: I mean a "normal" pmmx one
11:55 < minto> I will switch the machine on and You can do it yourself.
11:55 < morfoh> minto: hmmm ... ok.... thanks :)
11:56 < minto> I just turned it on
11:56 < minto> Thou I have not had much luck in doing ref builds yet.
11:57 < minto> id
11:57 < morfoh> minto: we'll see what noisy will spitt out :)
11:57 < minto> id was in the wrong window :-)
12:00 < CIA-9> msluis * r10220 /trunk/package/develop/bglibs/bglibs.desc: * update bglibs (1.023 -> 1.024)
12:11 < CIA-9> msluis * r10221 /trunk/package/x11/neXtaw/ (. neXtaw.desc):
12:11 < CIA-9> keinek :
12:11 < CIA-9> * added neXtaw (0.15.1)
12:15 < CIA-9> msluis * r10222 /trunk/package/x11/mowitz/ (. mowitz.desc):
12:15 < CIA-9> keinek :
12:15 < CIA-9> * added mowitz (0.3.0)
12:29 < CIA-9> msluis * r10223 /trunk/package/office/siag/ (. siag.desc):
12:29 < CIA-9> keinek :
12:29 < CIA-9> * added siag (3.6.0)
12:34 < CIA-9> msluis * r10224 /trunk/package/x11/aterm/aterm.desc: * update aterm (0.4.2 -> 1.0.0)
13:05 < CIA-9> msluis * r10225 /trunk/package/graphic/jhead/jhead.desc: * update jhead (2.2 -> 2.4)
13:12 < CIA-9> msluis * r10226 /trunk/package/x11/gtkpod/gtkpod.desc: * update gtkpod (0.88.2 -> 0.93.1)
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14:11 < morfoh> cu *
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15:23 < veki> hi
15:23 < veki> I have done svn up and I do wnat to build boot, install, rescue disk
15:24 < veki> Is t needed to do again ./scripts/Download required since there i supdated version which does not have all packages aor the latest versions in cache download/Mirror
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15:31 < veki> hi morfoh
15:31 < morfoh> hi veki
15:31 < veki> what's up, how are you doing
15:34 < morfoh> veki: good ... another weekend full of work in front of me
15:34 < morfoh> veki: and you ?
15:36 < veki> oh, sine as you guess all night work, setting up Linux machines during the day, but moving somehow
15:37 < veki> There was "computer guy" form one comapny asking me is possible in Linux to put text beside any image. I said that it is of course possible to do that in office application. "Computer guy", said: Ah That Linux is very powerfull
15:37 < veki> that is the knowledge of "computer guys:
16:00 < minto> hi all
16:01 < minto> morfoh: trunk ref stopped at embutils
16:02 < morfoh> minto: can you publish the err logs on noisy in some way ?
16:02 < morfoh> minto: or I will log in .... :)
16:02 < morfoh> mom
16:02 < morfoh> I'll take a look
16:08 < morfoh> minto: I think it's this is because we build it on glibc instead of dietlibc
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16:11 < morfoh> minto: I saved the log in morfoh's home again and touched a embutils.log that we can proceed ;)
16:12 < morfoh> minto: I'll collect all logs and add issues in trac then
16:12 < morfoh> minto: if you want you can start the ref again
16:12 < morfoh> ;)
16:12 < morfoh> hi mipe :)
16:13 < mipe> hi morfoh
16:13 < mipe> http://212.66.194.40/t2/system/regressions.html
16:13 < morfoh> oh!
16:14 < CIA-9> amery * r10227 /trunk/package/gnue/gnue-forms/ (fix_curses.patch gnue-forms.desc): * removed obsolete patch on gnue-forms, and repriorized between gnue-common and gnue-*
16:24 < morfoh> minto: should I restart the ref build ?
16:25 < mnemoc_> openssl 0.98 is security or 'just-for-fun' update?
16:28 < morfoh> mnemoc_: lot lot lot of changes
16:28 < mnemoc_> 'just-for-pain'?
16:29 < mnemoc_> for me, not accepting 0.98 means 0.97f for the entire 2.1 life-cycle
16:30 < morfoh> mnemoc_: take look in the changelog .... it's unbelievable .... so many changes
16:30 < mnemoc_> yep
16:31 < morfoh> mnemoc_: ack ... I think we should use the lates 0.9.7 on 2.1
16:31 < morfoh> 0.9.7g is the last one
16:31 < mnemoc_> ok
16:32 < morfoh> but in the 0.9.8 changelog -> Changes between 0.9.7h and 0.9.8 [05 Jul 2005]
16:32 < morfoh> but where is 0.9.7h
16:33 < morfoh> no 90.9.7
16:33 < morfoh> h
16:34 < mnemoc_> snapshot?
16:35 < morfoh> mnemoc_: anyway ... I think we should stick with the latest offical 0.9.7 release
16:35 < mnemoc_> g?
16:35 < minto> morfoh: I did restart. Now minised failed
16:35 < morfoh> yep
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16:36 < morfoh> minto: I restarted too ;)
16:36 < mnemoc_> madtux: did you leave us? :(
16:36 < minto> ahh
16:36 < morfoh> I moved minised.err too
16:36 < minto> ack
16:37 < morfoh> madtux: leave to where ?
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16:43 < SerWou> hello guys
16:43 < veki> SerWoud: hello
16:44 < SerWou> how are you veki
16:45 < veki> SerWou:well, thank you. Building boot, install,resuce target right now
16:45 < veki> SerWOu: Howare you doing?
16:45 < minto> hi SerWou
16:45 < SerWou> my first target (helped by friends) just finished to built, got 8 errors
16:45 < SerWou> hello minto
16:46 < veki> what is your target
16:46 < SerWou> it's a dedicaced graphic workstation for 2D/3D/Video editing/Compositing/Sound edition
16:46 < veki> hm, how you built it, by unsig t2?
16:47 < SerWou> i took a list made by a friend based on the small target + X and added packages
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16:48 < veki> hm, that i sfine, which errors you have had
16:49 < morfoh> bonjour SerWou
16:49 < SerWou> libmng, firefox, scribus, hydrogen, qt, qjackctl, qtparted libstdc++-v3
16:49 < SerWou> bonjour morfoh ;)
16:50 < mnemoc_> SerWou: can you publish a regressions report?
16:50 < veki> SerWou: did you check error.log files of those packages?
16:50 < SerWou> yes i can mnemoc_, but how ? ;)
16:51 < veki> SerWou, mnemoc: yes, it will be fine if SerWou will publish regressions reports
16:51 < mnemoc_> SerWou: sh misc/archive/RegressionsReport.sh -cfg $config
16:51 < SerWou> i haven't check yet because i have to leave my room for now, i will check it and tell my errors tonight
16:51 < mnemoc_> ok
16:51 < veki> mnemoc_: huh, SerWOu is like me. I feel moral duty to help him.
16:52 < mnemoc_> :)
16:52 < SerWou> hehe ;)
16:52 < veki> SerWOu: ok, cu tonight :-)
16:52 < SerWou> i'm on linux since 1 years and 5 month ;)
16:52 < mnemoc_> i have been 10 years :p
16:53 < mnemoc_> .oO( i'm old :\ )o
16:53 < SerWou> and computers since 4 years ;)
16:53 < veki> I am on Linux from 1995, but I am not developer, I am primarily artist
16:53 < mnemoc_> artist?
16:53 < veki> yes, I am composer primarily
16:54 < mnemoc_> ic
16:55 < veki> maybe I do knwo enough for composer :-), but I am learning a lot to kno wmore. My basi education i schemistry, but I compose music for theatre, contemporary balley etc. I also do computer graphics, Linux is one of my "girls"
16:55 < SerWou> misch/archive/RegresionsReport.s: line 90: syntax error near unexpected token '<' misch/archive/RegresionsReport.s: line 90: ` done< <( rep -e "$pattern$stagelevel.*" config/$config/packages )`
16:55 < mnemoc_> SerWou: bash, sorry :p
16:55 < mnemoc_> ./misc/archive/RegressionsReport.sh -cfg $config should work
16:58 < SerWou> done
16:58 < SerWou> what should i do now with it ?
16:58 < veki> SerWou: OK, great
16:58 < mnemoc_> SerWou: export via http your regressions/$config/ dir
16:59 < veki> mnemoc_: maybe SerWOu can publish on www.trac.t2-project.org
16:59 < mnemoc_> veki: nope
16:59 < mnemoc_> veki: trac is for reporting specific bug, not for sharing results
16:59 < veki> OK,
17:00 < veki> I was thinking on reporting on erros that he has had with 8 packages
17:00 < CIA-9> jsaw * r10228 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtkmm/ (gtkmm.conf gtkmm.desc): * do not build examples and demos in gtkmm
17:00 < CIA-9> jsaw * r10229 /trunk/package/base/pkgconfig/pkgconfig.desc: * update pkgconfig (0.16.0 -> 0.18.1)
17:03 < veki> I have to go now , see you tonight
17:04 < veki> cu
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17:04 < morfoh> cu veki
17:10 < mipe> damm,strace went broken from svn up
17:11 < mipe> err i mean from the last update at strace
17:12 < mnemoc_> uhm?
17:12 < mnemoc_> amd64?
17:12 < mnemoc_> yuck yuck
17:12 < mnemoc_> we need a farm :(
17:12 < mipe> yep on amd64
17:13 < mipe> old version did build but looks like 4.5.12 doesnt
17:13 < mnemoc_> what do you think about a 2.1-test branch?
17:14 < mipe> ?
17:15 < SerWou> export via http your regressions/$config/ dir ? how please ;)
17:15 < mnemoc_> apache?
17:15 < morfoh> gatling ? ;)
17:15 < SerWou> i can tar it and send by email to someone
17:15 < mnemoc_> publicfile ?
17:15 < morfoh> :)
17:16 < morfoh> httpd flame war :)
17:16 < mnemoc_> publicfile is amazingly small and easy to set
17:16 < mnemoc_> it just share files via http/ftp
17:16 < morfoh> same as gatling
17:16 < mnemoc_> gatling has cgi support afaik
17:17 < mnemoc_> proxying, etc
17:18 < mnemoc_> mipe: i mean, i do light tests on x86, and commit to -test. then we do some extra tests on amd64,x86_32,ppc, and then merge to stable branch?
17:18 < mnemoc_> mipe: after 2.1.0
17:19 < mipe> mnemoc_: yep sounds good
17:19 < mnemoc_> after 2.1.0 or after rc2 or now?
17:20 < mipe> after 2.1.0
17:20 < mnemoc_> ok :)
17:23 < CIA-9> msluis * r10230 /trunk/package/gnome2/epiphany/epiphany.desc: * update epiphany (1.6.3 -> 1.6.4)
17:23 < SerWou> hello CIA-9 , how are you today ? ;) ;)
17:24 < mnemoc_> he haven't get drunk these days, congratulations CIA-9
17:24 < SerWou> it's a serious guy
17:27 < minto> CIA-9 for president ?
17:29 < minto> Can it be that Emerge is somewhat broken?
17:30 < minto> updates of packages are automatically added, but missing packages are not build.
17:30 < minto> Even though it says these packages where added.
17:30 < mnemoc_> emerge depends on a config
17:30 < mnemoc_> if a new package is added, Config -oldconfig is needed to update packages file
17:31 < minto> ahh
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17:31 < keinek> morning
17:31 < mnemoc_> hi keinek
17:31 < minto> hi keinek
17:31 < minto> keinek: I added you packages :-)
17:31 < keinek> raining day today in Argentina
17:31 < keinek> :)
17:31 < keinek> thanks minto
17:32 < keinek> This is a great office suite.
17:32 < keinek> i use that in my notebook pentium 166
17:35 < mnemoc_> is it compatible with anything?
17:36 < keinek> yes... with openoffice and microsoft excel.
17:37 < keinek> doc of openoffice
17:37 < keinek> and excel from microsoft office.
17:37 < mnemoc_> opendocuments or staroffice documents?
17:37 < keinek> Mmmmm let me see.
17:38 < keinek> OpenOffice.org swriter (*.sxw)
17:38 < keinek> abi word
17:38 < keinek> man page
17:38 < keinek> hypertext markup language
17:38 < keinek> rich text format
17:38 < keinek> text
17:38 < keinek> And pathetic writer
17:39 < mnemoc_> pathetic writer?
17:39 < keinek> Pathetic writer is the "word" of siag
17:39 < mnemoc_> pff
17:39 < keinek> you know pathetic writer dont you?
17:40 < mnemoc_> nope
17:41 < keinek> well... is a little office.
17:41 < keinek> ideal for 486 or pentium 1
17:52 < keinek> i have a little problem with xpdf
17:53 < keinek> the program dont found the fonts.
17:54 < mnemoc_> can you file the issue on trac?
17:54 < keinek> i cant understand
17:54 < mnemoc_> trac.t2-project.org
17:55 < keinek> ok
17:55 < mnemoc_> the solution is to add: fontDir /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts on /etc/xpdfrc
17:55 < mnemoc_> but it has to be done by default
17:55 < keinek> yes in my athlon work fine, but in the notebook someting fail.
18:08 < CIA-9> msluis * r10231 /trunk/package/develop/gwenhywfar/gwenhywfar.desc: * update gwenhywfar (1.13.3 -> 1.14.0)
18:15 < minto> morfoh: remember my non booting iso?
18:15 < morfoh> minto: yes ... works now ?
18:16 < minto> I tried creating a new iso and I got:
18:16 < minto> WARNING: Disk1 is not bootable - no boot options defined.
18:16 < minto> :-(
18:16 < mnemoc_> you missed boot targets?
18:16 < mnemoc_> target*
18:17 < mnemoc_> Create-ISO isoname bootconfig funkyconfig
18:18 < minto> I should hava had a boot target.
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18:18 < minto> Create-ISO -size 700 tt2-minimal-2.1.0-prerc2-x86-64 boot-64 generic-minimal-64
18:18 < mnemoc_> no boot there
18:18 < mnemoc_> err
18:18 < mnemoc_> yes
18:18 < mnemoc_> sorry
18:18 < mnemoc_> i'm blind
18:19 < morfoh> mnemoc_: what can be the problem there ?
18:19 < mnemoc_> none
18:19 < minto> Where do the boot options come from?
18:19 < mnemoc_> does bootdisk knows about x86_64?
18:19 < mnemoc_> bootdisk target
18:20 < minto> I was able to build it
18:21 < minto> root@noisy:/mnt/space/t2/2.1# ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg boot-64
18:21 < minto> Error logs from boot-64-2.1.0-rc2-x86-64-bootdisk:
18:21 < minto> 165 builds total, 165 completed fine, 0 with errors.
18:21 < morfoh> mnemoc_: yes ... the bootdisk was build with x86_64 support. any other things to consider ?
18:21 < mnemoc_> look inside target/bootdisk
18:22 < madtux> mnemoc_, leaving in you guys in what sence?
18:22 < mnemoc_> madtux: abandon
18:22 < madtux> what makes u think that my friend?
18:23 < mnemoc_> nothing.... just a feeling
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18:23 < minto> mnemoc: there is no x86-64 directory in there
18:23 < mnemoc_> yep
18:24 < madtux> dude i have been here for several days
18:24 < madtux> more often than usual
18:24 < mnemoc_> of course i notices that
18:25 < madtux> so then stop thinking of me abandoning anything
18:25 < mnemoc_> :)
18:25 < morfoh> madtux: and I hope it will be the common way to see you here ;)
18:25 < madtux> i am trying fellows
18:25 < madtux> :)
18:25 < morfoh> madtux: good :)
18:26 < madtux> though ... i my thoughts were that i was already forgotten here
18:26 < morfoh> madtux: you know ... we've sth. to do ...
18:27 < morfoh> madtux: btw, iptables is working on diet now ;)
18:27 < madtux> WEE!!!
18:28 -!- mnemoc_ is now known as mnemoc
18:28 < morfoh> madtux: what does that WEE means ?
18:28 < mnemoc> happiness i guess
18:28 < morfoh> :D
18:28 < madtux> yeah
18:28 < madtux> :)
18:28 < madtux> glad to see u understand me mnemoc
18:29 < morfoh> mnemoc: you know your old release maintainer better than me ;)
18:29 < mnemoc> :)
18:29 < madtux> old release maintainer?
18:29 < morfoh> madtux: I mean rock
18:29 < madtux> 0_o
18:30 < madtux> that was many years ago
18:30 < mnemoc> madtux: have you tried sparc on 2.1?
18:30 < madtux> nope
18:30 < mnemoc> :(
18:30 < madtux> i can try on a pretty amd64 i will have next to me for the next 3 days
18:31 < morfoh> so folks ... I've to leave you for 1.5-2h .... see you later then
18:31 < madtux> cya
18:31 < mnemoc> minto is playing iwth amd64, you can join on that dance
18:31 < minto> cu morfoh
18:31 < mnemoc> cu morfoh
18:31 < minto> hi madtux
18:32 < madtux> sounds like fun... sparc64 is also fun... just u know how limited my time is now days
18:32 < madtux> yar
18:33 < minto> mnemoc: I just copied bootdisk/x86 to bootdisk/x86-64
18:33 < minto> It helps preventinghte message, but does it work?
18:34 < morfoh> minto: try it in qemu
18:35 < minto> how?
18:36 < CIA-9> amery * r10232 /trunk/scripts/Build-Pkg: * changed $builddir to contain $config (src.$pkg.$config.$id)
18:43 < CIA-9> amery * r10233 /trunk/package/develop/mono/mono.desc: * updated mono (1.1.6 -> 1.1.8.2)
18:43 < CIA-9> amery * r10234 /trunk/package/develop/mono-xsp/mono-xsp.desc: * updated mono-xsp (1.0.6 -> 1.0.9)
18:44 < CIA-9> amery * r10235 /trunk/package/develop/mod_mono/mod_mono.desc: * updated mod_mono (1.0.6 -> 1.0.9)
18:44 < mnemoc> minto: target/bootdisk/$arch/build.sh does the tricks
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18:58 < CIA-9> amery * r10236 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk-sharp/gtk-sharp.desc: * updated gtk-sharp (1.0.8 -> 1.0.10)
19:04 * karasz not in the office at the moment
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19:30 < minto> hi
19:37 < CIA-9> amery * r10237 /trunk/package/develop/mono-doc/mono-doc.desc: * updated mono-doc (1.0.6 -> 1.0.7)
19:38 < mnemoc> hi minto
19:57 < mipe> ./scripts/Build-Target -cfg system
19:57 < mipe> ./scripts/Build-Target: line 394: ./target//build.sh: No such file or directory
19:57 < mipe> 2.1 branch
19:58 < mipe> off for sauna
19:58 < mnemoc> what's inside your config/system/config ??
19:58 < mnemoc> ok
19:58 < mipe> AARGHHH
19:58 < mipe> its empty
19:59 < mnemoc> that's what i thought
19:59 < mipe> and i havent done anything else except ./scripts/Create-Errlist -cfg system -remove and ./scripts/Cleanup
19:59 < mnemoc> aborting Config ? running two Builds of the same config ?
20:00 * mipe hides to nearest bush
20:00 < mnemoc> you can rescue it from src/$config ... or regressions/$config/config
20:00 < mnemoc> if you are lucky
20:01 < mipe> i aborted config,thats what i did :(, i'll do full rebuild
20:01 < CIA-9> amery * r10238 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk-sharp2/gtk-sharp2.desc: * updated gtk-sharp2 (1.9.3 -> 1.9.5)
20:01 < mnemoc> :(
20:02 < mipe> i have 3 or 4 package patches but wont commit until i test them with this new build
20:02 < mnemoc> ok
20:03 < mipe> but someone could look at emacs,i did quick glance at it and looks like a swamp... error log at http://212.66.194.40/t2/system/log/5-emacs.err
20:04 < mipe> well twiddling with configure scripts to be exact
20:05 < mnemoc> doesn't emacs now about x86_64?
20:05 < mipe> nope :(
20:05 < mnemoc> :(
20:08 < CIA-9> amery * r10239 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtkmozembed-sharp/gtkmozembed-sharp.desc: * updated gtkmozembed-sharp (0.8-r43708 -> 0.10)
20:10 < CIA-9> amery * r10240 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtksourceview-sharp/gtksourceview-sharp.desc: * updated gtksourceview-sharp (0.7 -> 0.10)
20:16 < CIA-9> amery * r10241 /trunk/package/develop/mono-develop/mono-develop.desc: * updated mono-develop (0.6 -> 0.7)
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21:10 * karasz got back to the office
21:11 < keinek_> hi mnemoc are you there?
21:11 -!- keinek_ is now known as keinek
21:12 < mnemoc> keinek: pong
21:12 < keinek> www.t2-project.com.ar :)
21:12 < keinek> now i will post in spanish into the foro.
21:12 < keinek> first "how create a package"
21:12 < keinek> and second "how create a grub boot disk for t2"
21:13 < mnemoc> :)
21:14 < keinek> somothin in spanish, something direct link to t2-project.org
21:14 < keinek> something*
21:14 < mnemoc> :)
21:14 < mnemoc> morfoh: www2?
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21:20 < karasz> re hi everybody
21:20 < karasz> hi mnemoc
21:21 < karasz> any luck yet with the pmmx rc2 iso?
21:21 < mnemoc> nope
21:22 < karasz> :(
21:22 < karasz> maybe next week... :)
21:22 < mnemoc> yep
21:23 < mnemoc> with 2.6.13-rc3 the config option to enable devfs has vanished.
21:24 < mnemoc> so, 2.1 will get openssl 0.9.7* and linux26 2.6.12-* for ever
21:33 < keinek> hey mnemoc
21:33 < keinek> http://www.t2-project.com.ar/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=probl;action=display;num=1121455898
21:33 < keinek> do you like the style?
21:36 < mnemoc> *click*
21:37 < mnemoc> looks ok, thanks for the effort :)
21:37 < keinek> :)
21:38 < keinek> is a easy way to make bit a bit the manual.
21:43 < keinek> mnemoc, the official t2 page is pure html?
21:43 < keinek> or use something like cgi?
21:43 < mnemoc> plain, but generated i think
21:53 < jsaw> keinek: I didn't really understand everything, I only guess, but you could also note, that XP gets along with grub just fine... (there are only some antivirus scanners that may get a hickup, mine didn't :) )
21:53 < jsaw> re btw... hi all :)
21:58 < jsaw> note rxr: bootdisk/HEAD is really broken: due to missing devfs, there's no device found to boot from.... the simple mknod /dev/console (rev10177) made it at least reach the linuxrc selection, but then... nothing :( . If you had some ideas, please tell, then I can go on fixing it.
21:59 < jsaw> s/note/note to/
21:59 < mnemoc> jsaw: 2.1 has it's HEAD too :)
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22:05 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc1 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/
22:05 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Tue Jun 21 16:27:15 2005]
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22:05 < jsaw> here, installation of a lab notebook just went fine :) (luck I guess...)
22:05 < jsaw> I mean XP after t2
22:05 < mnemoc> iwdetect fixed?
22:06 < jsaw> well, besides that multiple APs are not handled... yes
22:06 < jsaw> bash is not the right thing to handle lists... :(
22:06 < CIA-9> amery * r10242 /trunk/package/graphic/a2ps/a2ps.conf: * fixes a2ps to install .el files at $docdir instead of $root
22:07 < keinek> nobody knows what do windows when install, all is posiblle.
22:08 < keinek> the great black box.
22:08 < keinek> i hate it.
22:08 < keinek> i lost 60 gig of anime because windows.
22:08 < jsaw> ...
22:08 < jsaw> .oO(oh my)
22:09 < mnemoc> keinek: sue microsoft :)
22:10 < minto> you might get a dollar for every meg :-)
22:12 < mnemoc> :)
22:13 < morfoh> re hi
22:15 < keinek> nvu work great!
22:15 < jsaw> hi
22:15 < mnemoc> on your p166?
22:15 < keinek> no jajaja
22:15 < keinek> hahaa
22:15 < keinek> in my athlon xp.
22:16 < mnemoc> :)
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22:29 < karasz> hi morfoh
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23:26 < veki> hi
23:26 < veki> I am buildding boot, rescue, install target
23:26 < veki> as far as I see there is termcap and ncurses package. Is termscap obsoleted by ncurses?
23:34 < veki> SerWou: how is your audio/video graphic target?
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