--- Log opened Fri Jul 01 00:00:00 2005 00:39 -!- morfoh [~jeru@p54BFD10C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:13 < keinek> what java es for firefox 02:13 < keinek> i want use applets :) 02:14 < keinek> what java is the right? 02:55 < _Lewellyn> none of them. it's all lefty commie propoganda. 02:55 < _Lewellyn> *ahem* 02:55 < _Lewellyn> what do you mean 'what java is the right'? 02:55 < _Lewellyn> afaik, only sun's java will work in browsers right now 02:56 < _Ragnar_> question is more like: how do you get it to work maybe? 02:56 < _Lewellyn> ah. good question. :) 02:57 < _Lewellyn> unfortunately, i cannot be certain of the answer. 03:21 -!- sparc-kly [~ultra5@64.237.251.134] has joined #t2 03:41 < mnemoc> there is a gcj plugin 03:47 < keinek> mnemoc, and this gcj plugin work fine? 03:47 < mnemoc> never tried it 07:16 < CIA-1> amery * r9952 /trunk/package/textproc/elementtree/ (. elementtree.desc): * added elementtree (1.2.6-20050316) 07:20 < CIA-1> amery * r9953 /trunk/package/textproc/celementtree/ (. celementtree.desc): * added celementtree (1.0.2-20050302) 07:21 < CIA-1> amery * r9954 /trunk/package/textproc/kid/ (. kid.desc): * added kid (0.6.4) 08:25 < mnemoc> gn8 08:34 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 08:34 < minto> good morning all 09:08 -!- Veki [~root@217.24.19.40] has joined #t2 09:08 -!- Veki [~root@217.24.19.40] has quit [Client Quit] 09:16 < minto> rxr: I am leaving for a few hours, but noise is turned on. 09:16 < minto> noise = noisy 10:10 < rxr_> moin 10:10 -!- You're now known as rxr 10:21 < valentin> moin 10:28 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:55 < valentin> raining like the Flood 11:08 < rxr> re 11:11 < rxr> raid is good (tm) 11:58 < rxr> re 11:58 < rxr> rain of course 12:07 < valentin> ah :) 12:07 < valentin> rxr: your cellphones accu has quite low capacity 12:07 < rxr> hm? 12:08 < valentin> i loaded it yesterday and without phoning it was almost empty today 12:08 < rxr> hm? 12:08 < rxr> it was not that bad for me ... 12:08 < valentin> hm 12:08 < rxr> it holded nearly 5 days with normal usage ... 12:08 < valentin> that is what i'd expect 12:08 < valentin> no idea 12:09 < valentin> have to go now, cu later 12:41 -!- azureus [~t6@dtm9-d9bbc321.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #t2 12:46 < azureus> hi 12:49 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 13:06 < minto> rxr: are you around? 13:55 < rxr> yes - now I am 14:14 -!- azureus [~t6@dtm9-d9bbc321.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:29 < rxr> http://www.sun.com/desktop/workstation/ultra3/index.xml 14:33 < rxr> valentin: around _? 14:34 < rxr> I just test "installing" the live cd 14:35 < rxr> so far I think the performance is quite great 14:35 < rxr> the file search doesn't take too long and the cd rom seldom moves the lense ... 14:36 < jsaw> re 14:37 < jsaw> rxr: was there any reason not to enable mule in xemacs(-beta)? 14:37 < rxr> no 14:46 < jsaw> rxr: do you remember, why xemacs had it's own configure_command ? 14:47 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:50 < jsaw> btw, bootdisk does not work... 14:51 < jsaw> I assume, it's due to ext2 being a module 14:54 -!- azureus [~hfsjdi@dtm9-d9bbc321.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #t2 15:20 < jsaw> very strange, xemacs-beta executable b21 is 40% size of b20... .oO(?) 15:40 -!- azureus [~hfsjdi@dtm9-d9bbc321.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:12 -!- mipe [~mika@dsl10040.japo.fi] has joined #t2 17:02 -!- azureus [~hfsjdi@dtm9-d9bbc321.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #t2 17:04 -!- azureus [~hfsjdi@dtm9-d9bbc321.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:59 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 18:07 < valentin> re 18:15 -!- morfoh [~jeru@p54BFC38B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 18:15 < morfoh> hi all 18:24 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:33 -!- azureus [~hfsjdi@dtm9-d9bbc321.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #t2 18:35 -!- azureus [~hfsjdi@dtm9-d9bbc321.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [] 18:40 -!- mtr [~Michael@p54AF9AD1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 18:56 -!- mtr_ [~Michael@p54AF9E63.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:31 * mipe tryes to wake CIA-1 19:31 * mipe slaps CIA-1 20:09 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 20:09 < minto> hi all 20:23 -!- keinek_ [~Keinek@201.254.15.37] has joined #t2 20:27 < mipe> == 21:27:41 =[3]=> Building base/groff [1.19.1 2.1.0-rc2]. 20:27 < mipe> -> Compiler Cache enabled: 0.00% cache hits so far. 20:27 < mipe> - 20:28 < mipe> 0% cache hits! 20:32 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.10.10] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 20:37 < _Ragnar_> http://webshop.ffii.org/ 20:37 * _Ragnar_ shudders 21:17 < minto> hi 21:18 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:18 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 21:56 -!- rxr_ [rene@e178146114.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 21:56 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc1 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ 21:56 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Tue Jun 21 16:27:15 2005] 21:56 [Users #t2] 21:56 [ _Lewellyn] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ nzg ] [ SerWou ] 21:56 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ keinek_] [ morfoh] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly] 21:56 [ CIA-1 ] [ minto ] [ mtr ] [ rxr_] [ valentin ] 21:56 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal] 21:56 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 21:56 -!- [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 21:56 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 11 secs 22:03 < mnemoc> moin 22:06 < minto> hi mnemoc :-) 22:06 < minto> morfoh: are you around? 22:08 -!- rxr [rene@e178128042.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:08 < mnemoc> hi minto 22:09 < mnemoc> morfoh: i guess i wont use itools... i'll use simpleTAL or KID for templates, itools has lot of overhead i wont need 22:10 < minto> morfoh: Maybe trac needs additional Issue type: Package Update 22:11 < minto> Morfoh: I added issue #10 to update gnu classpath and selected issue type: package request. 22:11 < mnemoc> isn't that a 'package requrest'? 22:11 < mnemoc> uhm, no... you are right 22:11 < minto> By the way, I assigned it to myself. 22:11 < mnemoc> :) 22:12 < minto> mnemoc: I think a special issue type makes it easier to spot all packages that need to be updated. 22:13 < mnemoc> package request is more like 'add this package please' 22:13 < mnemoc> package change can be update/downdate/enable feature/... 22:13 < minto> I agree :-) 22:14 < minto> I add a new issue for syslinux as well (3.08 -> 3.09) 22:17 < morfoh> hi mnemoc, minto ;) 22:17 < minto> hi morfoh 22:18 < minto> read the trac discussion mnemoc and I have? 22:18 < morfoh> mnemoc: I've added update request 22:18 < minto> have = had 22:20 < morfoh> mnemoc: what overhead do you mean regarding itools ? 22:22 < mnemoc> workflow and some preset handlers 22:22 < mnemoc> simpleTAL is very nice 22:23 < morfoh> mnemoc: yes ... I'm already on the site 22:23 < mnemoc> KID is a simplified TAL plus code 22:23 < mnemoc> http://www.wide-project.org/docs/LINKS 22:23 < mnemoc> there is OOOpy :) 22:23 < mnemoc> and using antiword we could convert both into xhtml on the fly 22:24 < morfoh> mnemoc: but you've to consider itools isn't just a templating language 22:24 < morfoh> :) 22:24 < mnemoc> i know 22:24 < mnemoc> but my idea is that mod_foo may be used directly to process .foo and inside wide 22:25 < mnemoc> keeping them separated 22:25 < morfoh> mnemoc: in fact I like this resource handler stuff 22:25 < mnemoc> yes 22:25 < morfoh> mnemoc: ack 22:25 < mnemoc> resource handler is nice 22:25 < minto> What are you guys talking about? 22:25 < morfoh> mnemoc: it could ease the deployment of distributed environments 22:26 < morfoh> minto: http://www.wide-project.org/ 22:26 < minto> click 22:28 < minto> Are you sure this link is right, I can't get there :-( 22:29 < morfoh> minto: i can 22:30 < minto> Now I can too, but shows some ftp screen. Index of / 22:30 < morfoh> minto: yes ... mnemoc already registred the domain 22:31 < minto> morfoh: I just resolved trac issue #10. Should I just set resolved to fixed? 22:31 < minto> What is wide project? 22:32 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.43] has joined #t2 22:32 < morfoh> minto: WIDE, Web based Integrated Development Enviroment 22:32 < minto> uhh? 22:33 < minto> What kind of development? 22:33 < morfoh> minto: software dev. perhaps ... 22:34 < minto> I guessed so, but ... 22:34 < minto> T2 front end or internet apps or ... 22:34 < morfoh> minto: we want to integrate some tools for ease the development 22:34 < morfoh> web frontent 22:35 < morfoh> i.e. svn tool 22:35 < morfoh> documentation etc. 22:35 < morfoh> but it's in very early stage atm 22:35 < minto> Sort of a source forge thing? 22:35 < mnemoc_> nope 22:35 < mnemoc_> a filemanager 22:36 < mnemoc_> with context actions 22:36 < mnemoc_> a frontend 22:36 < morfoh> mnemoc_: SimpleTAL is nice too and we could even us it with itools resource handler stuff ;) 22:37 < morfoh> use 22:37 < mnemoc_> i don't consider itools.resource pay the dependency 22:37 < minto> morfoh: I just resolved trac issue #10. Should I just set resolved to fixed? 22:37 < mnemoc_> http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/regressions.html <--- fresh reference :( 22:38 < morfoh> minto: if it is fixed ... sure ;) 22:39 < morfoh> mnemoc_: I ask myself why isdn stuff is failing again :( 22:40 < mnemoc_> mknod 22:43 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.45] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:50 < morfoh> mnemoc_: you should use a bandwith manager on your server ;) 22:52 < mnemoc_> uhm? what are you doing it? 22:53 < morfoh> wanted to read lprng err clog ,) 22:53 < morfoh> dog slow 22:54 < morfoh> mnemoc_: thought you were updating some stuff 22:54 < mnemoc_> 128kbps international, 10M national 22:56 < morfoh> yes ... I know 22:56 < morfoh> ar: user_auth.o: No such file or directory <- lprng 23:02 < minto> I am off to bed. gn8 all 23:02 < morfoh> good night minto ... sleep well zzzzzZZZZZ 23:03 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.4/20050511]"] 23:04 < mnemoc_> morfoh: noparallel or dependency? 23:04 < morfoh> yep 23:05 < mnemoc_> that's not the answer i wanted :\ 23:05 < morfoh> what is the answer you wanted 23:05 < mnemoc_> is it noparallel or is it a dependency? 23:05 < morfoh> hehe ... seems like a dep 23:06 < morfoh> mnemoc_: checking ... 23:09 < morfoh> mnemoc_: builds here 23:17 < mnemoc_> .oO 23:17 < mnemoc_> if user_auth.o is part of lprng, it's a noparallel issue 23:18 < mnemoc_> if not, its a dependency on a package with the same prio 23:18 < morfoh> ack 23:19 < morfoh> try to [F] NOPARALLEL 23:25 < mnemoc_> i would like to fix that makefile but i'm to lazy 23:26 < morfoh> mnemoc_: you're too lazy ? 23:26 < morfoh> mnemoc_: what makefile ? 23:26 < morfoh> isdn ? 23:26 < mnemoc_> lprng 23:27 < morfoh> what do you think has to be fixed ? or how can I motivate you ? ;p 23:28 < mnemoc_> user_auth.o: No such file or directory <--- this means a rule on make file is missing user_auth.o as dependency 23:30 < morfoh> ic 23:57 -!- lewellyn [~mjl@198.144.200.131] has joined #t2 --- Log closed Sat Jul 02 00:00:00 2005