T2 IRC Log: 2005-07-01

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--- Log opened Fri Jul 01 00:00:00 2005
00:39 -!- morfoh [~jeru@p54BFD10C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
02:13 < keinek> what java es for firefox
02:13 < keinek> i want use applets :)
02:14 < keinek> what java is the right?
02:55 < _Lewellyn> none of them. it's all lefty commie propoganda.
02:55 < _Lewellyn> *ahem*
02:55 < _Lewellyn> what do you mean 'what java is the right'?
02:55 < _Lewellyn> afaik, only sun's java will work in browsers right now
02:56 < _Ragnar_> question is more like: how do you get it to work maybe?
02:56 < _Lewellyn> ah. good question. :)
02:57 < _Lewellyn> unfortunately, i cannot be certain of the answer.
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03:41 < mnemoc> there is a gcj plugin
03:47 < keinek> mnemoc, and this gcj plugin work fine?
03:47 < mnemoc> never tried it
07:16 < CIA-1> amery * r9952 /trunk/package/textproc/elementtree/ (. elementtree.desc): * added elementtree (1.2.6-20050316)
07:20 < CIA-1> amery * r9953 /trunk/package/textproc/celementtree/ (. celementtree.desc): * added celementtree (1.0.2-20050302)
07:21 < CIA-1> amery * r9954 /trunk/package/textproc/kid/ (. kid.desc): * added kid (0.6.4)
08:25 < mnemoc> gn8
08:34 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2
08:34 < minto> good morning all
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09:16 < minto> rxr: I am leaving for a few hours, but noise is turned on.
09:16 < minto> noise = noisy
10:10 < rxr_> moin
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10:21 < valentin> moin
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10:55 < valentin> raining like the Flood
11:08 < rxr> re
11:11 < rxr> raid is good (tm)
11:58 < rxr> re
11:58 < rxr> rain of course
12:07 < valentin> ah :)
12:07 < valentin> rxr: your cellphones accu has quite low capacity
12:07 < rxr> hm?
12:08 < valentin> i loaded it yesterday and without phoning it was almost empty today
12:08 < rxr> hm?
12:08 < rxr> it was not that bad for me ...
12:08 < valentin> hm
12:08 < rxr> it holded nearly 5 days with normal usage ...
12:08 < valentin> that is what i'd expect
12:08 < valentin> no idea
12:09 < valentin> have to go now, cu later
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12:46 < azureus> hi
12:49 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2
13:06 < minto> rxr: are you around?
13:55 < rxr> yes - now I am
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14:29 < rxr> http://www.sun.com/desktop/workstation/ultra3/index.xml
14:33 < rxr> valentin: around _?
14:34 < rxr> I just test "installing" the live cd
14:35 < rxr> so far I think the performance is quite great
14:35 < rxr> the file search doesn't take too long and the cd rom seldom moves the lense ...
14:36 < jsaw> re
14:37 < jsaw> rxr: was there any reason not to enable mule in xemacs(-beta)?
14:37 < rxr> no
14:46 < jsaw> rxr: do you remember, why xemacs had it's own configure_command ?
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14:50 < jsaw> btw, bootdisk does not work...
14:51 < jsaw> I assume, it's due to ext2 being a module
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15:20 < jsaw> very strange, xemacs-beta executable b21 is 40% size of b20... .oO(?)
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18:07 < valentin> re
18:15 -!- morfoh [~jeru@p54BFC38B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2
18:15 < morfoh> hi all
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19:31 * mipe tryes to wake CIA-1
19:31 * mipe slaps CIA-1
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20:09 < minto> hi all
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20:27 < mipe> == 21:27:41 =[3]=> Building base/groff [1.19.1 2.1.0-rc2].
20:27 < mipe> -> Compiler Cache enabled: 0.00% cache hits so far.
20:27 < mipe> -
20:28 < mipe> 0% cache hits!
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20:37 < _Ragnar_> http://webshop.ffii.org/
20:37 * _Ragnar_ shudders
21:17 < minto> hi
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21:56 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc1 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/
21:56 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Tue Jun 21 16:27:15 2005]
21:56 [Users #t2]
21:56 [ _Lewellyn] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ nzg ] [ SerWou ]
21:56 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ keinek_] [ morfoh] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly]
21:56 [ CIA-1 ] [ minto ] [ mtr ] [ rxr_] [ valentin ]
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22:03 < mnemoc> moin
22:06 < minto> hi mnemoc :-)
22:06 < minto> morfoh: are you around?
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22:08 < mnemoc> hi minto
22:09 < mnemoc> morfoh: i guess i wont use itools... i'll use simpleTAL or KID for templates, itools has lot of overhead i wont need
22:10 < minto> morfoh: Maybe trac needs additional Issue type: Package Update
22:11 < minto> Morfoh: I added issue #10 to update gnu classpath and selected issue type: package request.
22:11 < mnemoc> isn't that a 'package requrest'?
22:11 < mnemoc> uhm, no... you are right
22:11 < minto> By the way, I assigned it to myself.
22:11 < mnemoc> :)
22:12 < minto> mnemoc: I think a special issue type makes it easier to spot all packages that need to be updated.
22:13 < mnemoc> package request is more like 'add this package please'
22:13 < mnemoc> package change can be update/downdate/enable feature/...
22:13 < minto> I agree :-)
22:14 < minto> I add a new issue for syslinux as well (3.08 -> 3.09)
22:17 < morfoh> hi mnemoc, minto ;)
22:17 < minto> hi morfoh
22:18 < minto> read the trac discussion mnemoc and I have?
22:18 < morfoh> mnemoc: I've added update request
22:18 < minto> have = had
22:20 < morfoh> mnemoc: what overhead do you mean regarding itools ?
22:22 < mnemoc> workflow and some preset handlers
22:22 < mnemoc> simpleTAL is very nice
22:23 < morfoh> mnemoc: yes ... I'm already on the site
22:23 < mnemoc> KID is a simplified TAL plus code
22:23 < mnemoc> http://www.wide-project.org/docs/LINKS
22:23 < mnemoc> there is OOOpy :)
22:23 < mnemoc> and using antiword we could convert both into xhtml on the fly
22:24 < morfoh> mnemoc: but you've to consider itools isn't just a templating language
22:24 < morfoh> :)
22:24 < mnemoc> i know
22:24 < mnemoc> but my idea is that mod_foo may be used directly to process .foo and inside wide
22:25 < mnemoc> keeping them separated
22:25 < morfoh> mnemoc: in fact I like this resource handler stuff
22:25 < mnemoc> yes
22:25 < morfoh> mnemoc: ack
22:25 < mnemoc> resource handler is nice
22:25 < minto> What are you guys talking about?
22:25 < morfoh> mnemoc: it could ease the deployment of distributed environments
22:26 < morfoh> minto: http://www.wide-project.org/
22:26 < minto> click
22:28 < minto> Are you sure this link is right, I can't get there :-(
22:29 < morfoh> minto: i can
22:30 < minto> Now I can too, but shows some ftp screen. Index of /
22:30 < morfoh> minto: yes ... mnemoc already registred the domain
22:31 < minto> morfoh: I just resolved trac issue #10. Should I just set resolved to fixed?
22:31 < minto> What is wide project?
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22:32 < morfoh> minto: WIDE, Web based Integrated Development Enviroment
22:32 < minto> uhh?
22:33 < minto> What kind of development?
22:33 < morfoh> minto: software dev. perhaps ...
22:34 < minto> I guessed so, but ...
22:34 < minto> T2 front end or internet apps or ...
22:34 < morfoh> minto: we want to integrate some tools for ease the development
22:34 < morfoh> web frontent
22:35 < morfoh> i.e. svn tool
22:35 < morfoh> documentation etc.
22:35 < morfoh> but it's in very early stage atm
22:35 < minto> Sort of a source forge thing?
22:35 < mnemoc_> nope
22:35 < mnemoc_> a filemanager
22:36 < mnemoc_> with context actions
22:36 < mnemoc_> a frontend
22:36 < morfoh> mnemoc_: SimpleTAL is nice too and we could even us it with itools resource handler stuff ;)
22:37 < morfoh> use
22:37 < mnemoc_> i don't consider itools.resource pay the dependency
22:37 < minto> morfoh: I just resolved trac issue #10. Should I just set resolved to fixed?
22:37 < mnemoc_> http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/regressions.html <--- fresh reference :(
22:38 < morfoh> minto: if it is fixed ... sure ;)
22:39 < morfoh> mnemoc_: I ask myself why isdn stuff is failing again :(
22:40 < mnemoc_> mknod
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22:50 < morfoh> mnemoc_: you should use a bandwith manager on your server ;)
22:52 < mnemoc_> uhm? what are you doing it?
22:53 < morfoh> wanted to read lprng err clog ,)
22:53 < morfoh> dog slow
22:54 < morfoh> mnemoc_: thought you were updating some stuff
22:54 < mnemoc_> 128kbps international, 10M national
22:56 < morfoh> yes ... I know
22:56 < morfoh> ar: user_auth.o: No such file or directory <- lprng
23:02 < minto> I am off to bed. gn8 all
23:02 < morfoh> good night minto ... sleep well zzzzzZZZZZ
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23:04 < mnemoc_> morfoh: noparallel or dependency?
23:04 < morfoh> yep
23:05 < mnemoc_> that's not the answer i wanted :\
23:05 < morfoh> what is the answer you wanted
23:05 < mnemoc_> is it noparallel or is it a dependency?
23:05 < morfoh> hehe ... seems like a dep
23:06 < morfoh> mnemoc_: checking ...
23:09 < morfoh> mnemoc_: builds here
23:17 < mnemoc_> .oO
23:17 < mnemoc_> if user_auth.o is part of lprng, it's a noparallel issue
23:18 < mnemoc_> if not, its a dependency on a package with the same prio
23:18 < morfoh> ack
23:19 < morfoh> try to [F] NOPARALLEL
23:25 < mnemoc_> i would like to fix that makefile but i'm to lazy
23:26 < morfoh> mnemoc_: you're too lazy ?
23:26 < morfoh> mnemoc_: what makefile ?
23:26 < morfoh> isdn ?
23:26 < mnemoc_> lprng
23:27 < morfoh> what do you think has to be fixed ? or how can I motivate you ? ;p
23:28 < mnemoc_> user_auth.o: No such file or directory <--- this means a rule on make file is missing user_auth.o as dependency
23:30 < morfoh> ic
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--- Log closed Sat Jul 02 00:00:00 2005