--- Log opened Tue Jun 21 00:00:00 2005 00:02 -!- azu1 [~hfsjdi@dtm9-d9bbcf61.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:10 < CIA-12> sebastian * r9791 /trunk/package/gnome2/gaim/gaim.desc: * updated gaim (1.3.0 -> 1.3.1) 00:13 -!- keinek_ [~Keinek@201.254.8.195] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:37 < sepp> good night * 00:37 < lewellyn> sleep well 00:39 < sepp> thanks 00:45 < lewellyn> rxr: you there? 00:46 -!- morfoh|away [~jeru@p54BFF91B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 00:56 < valentin> will sleep now, too 00:59 < lewellyn> sleep well, too :) 00:59 < _Ragnar_> O_O 00:59 < _Ragnar_> libpcap fails, too? O_O 01:12 < _Ragnar_> hmmm 01:12 < jsaw> anybody else having problems with ftp.kernel.org? 01:13 < _Ragnar_> is it just me that has so many packages failing on embedded? 01:41 < _Ragnar_> hmpfl 01:41 < _Ragnar_> ... 01:41 * _Ragnar_ wants to build embedded with glibc :p 01:56 < mnemoc> rehi 01:56 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: bloated embedded? 02:09 < _Ragnar_> well what use is an embedded router without tcpdump? 02:09 < _Ragnar_> ;p 02:10 < _Ragnar_> or libpcap? 02:16 < mnemoc> i have to finish my work on target inheritance 02:17 < _Ragnar_> :) ok 02:18 < mnemoc> so you can do your own ragnar-embedded which clonning code :) 02:20 < mnemoc> without* 02:24 < _Ragnar_> :) 02:27 < mnemoc> rxr: chilean maid?? 02:37 < jsaw> g'night 02:39 < mnemoc> gn8 jsaw 02:53 < lewellyn> sleep well jsaw 04:35 -!- madtux [~mike@65.182.14.29] has joined #t2 04:35 < madtux> hello. 04:38 < mnemoc> hi madtux 04:38 < madtux> hola 05:16 < mnemoc> 1677 builds total, 1655 completed fine, 21 with errors. <--- less bad 05:21 -!- ojh [~omer@71-34-254-16.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2 06:05 -!- ojh [~omer@71-34-254-16.eugn.qwest.net] has left #t2 [] 06:48 < rxr> re 06:48 < rxr> mnemoc: as I wrote scroll back - it was the channels idea 06:50 < rxr> mnemoc: you did not reply ? 07:18 < rxr> mnemoc: awake ? 07:21 < mnemoc> rxr: hi 07:23 < rxr> ah hi ,-) 07:24 < rxr> what code name do you prefer? 07:25 < rxr> any other complains regarding the mail ? 07:27 < mnemoc> no, no complains 07:27 < mnemoc> what did you mean with 'chilean maid'? 07:27 < rxr> I? it was not my idea ... 07:27 < mnemoc> .oO 07:27 < rxr> honor your wife enduring you working so hard? 07:27 < rxr> no idea ... 07:28 < rxr> I proposed "plastic mags & magazines" - but just because it sounds cool ,-) 07:28 < mnemoc> :) 07:28 < rxr> mnemoc: any other comment? 07:29 < rxr> should I announce the bittorrent? 07:29 < rxr> or wait until we have it on gsmp and torrent.t2-project.org ? 07:29 < mnemoc> i didn't see anything about the 'stability' police we will follow, etc... 07:30 < mnemoc> my head will blow 07:30 < mnemoc> uhm.... here it is 07:30 < mnemoc> that part was hidding 07:32 < mnemoc> torrent... 07:32 < mnemoc> remember you need a tcp range to share files from gsmp bw 07:33 < mnemoc> sharing files is more important than the tracker 07:33 < mnemoc> i have no problem with keeping the tracker if you can do both things at univ. 07:34 < mnemoc> who proposed 'chilean maid'? 07:34 < rxr> mnemoc: there is no way I can get anything but port ftp, ssh, http and https ... 07:34 < rxr> morpho I think 07:34 < _Ragnar_> O_O 07:34 < mnemoc> to my third world mind and paranoia that sounds despective 07:35 < _Ragnar_> oh btw .... how do I get rid of this skas patch? 07:35 < _Ragnar_> O_O 07:35 < rxr> _Ragnar_: disable uml_utilities 07:36 < madtux> .o0( mnemoc workaholic ) 07:36 < madtux> hey rxr 07:36 < rxr> mnemoc: what did you mean with "to my third world mind and paranoia that sounds despective" 07:36 < rxr> hi madtux 07:36 < mnemoc> madtux: :) 07:37 < _Ragnar_> thanks rxr ;) 07:39 < mnemoc> rxr: that means, i don't know how first world people takes ' maid', but to me sounds like looking to someone 'inferior' 07:39 < mnemoc> people use 'peruvian maid', etc... in that way here 07:40 < mnemoc> and on peru a 'chilean maid' is a prostitute :\ 07:41 < rxr> .oO 07:41 < rxr> it was definetly in no way intended this way ... 07:41 < mnemoc> i know! 07:41 < rxr> let's just use s.th. else than 07:42 < mnemoc> don't you i have been ofended or anything like that 07:42 < rxr> the only real code name I have in petto is for the finak, and hopefully perfect, live release 07:42 < mnemoc> it was just weird to read it as code name 07:42 < rxr> 2403714 Jun 21 07:40 t2-2.1.0-rc1.tar.bz2 07:42 < rxr> our releases get bigger and bigger, right? 07:42 < rxr> t2-2.1.0-beta4.tar.bz2 13-Apr-2005 20:48 2.1M 07:43 < mnemoc> 2.7G t2-download/2.1.0-beta3 07:43 < mnemoc> 3.7G t2-download/2.1.0-beta4 07:44 < mnemoc> 4.0G t2-download/2.1.0-rc1 07:44 < mnemoc> 5.4G t2-download/T2-current 07:44 < mnemoc> that last one is a mess, just ignore 07:44 < mnemoc> 8.0G t2-download 07:45 < rxr> what about "Do' something" or "so hot" as code name ? 07:45 < rxr> or "Unreachable" ;-) ? 07:45 < _Ragnar_> *lol* 07:46 < mnemoc> :-) 07:46 < rxr> hey - why not "Summer sunshine" ? 07:46 < mnemoc> :) 07:47 < rxr> so, summer sunshine ? 07:47 < mnemoc> i like it 07:48 < mnemoc> i'll go to bed.... my head is going to blow up 07:48 < mnemoc> rxr: thanks :) 07:48 < rxr> ok - and I release ? 07:48 < mnemoc> as usual :p 07:49 < rxr> ok - sleep well 07:49 < mnemoc> i'll try 07:50 -!- _Lewellyn [nonadmis@lewellyn.silver.supporter.pdpc] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:50 < mnemoc> ok... gn8 rxr, _Ragnar_, madtux 07:50 < mnemoc> happy summer sunshine 07:54 -!- _Lewellyn [rostroca@lewellyn.silver.supporter.pdpc] has joined #t2 08:02 < rxr> announcement send out 08:02 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.88] has joined #t2 08:09 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.19] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:30 < rxr> Search Keyphrases (Top 10) 08:30 < rxr> 2: t2 tea 17 0.5 % 08:30 < rxr> ? t2 tea ??? 08:30 < rxr> haha: http://www.t2-project.org/packages/tea.html 08:31 < rxr> http://www.shoppingsecrets.com/melbourne/fitzroy/t2/index.shtml 08:32 < rxr> _Ragnar_: I now know why I do not get the outside basedir files you get 08:32 < rxr> modern T2 systems have module-init-tools and modutils linked statically against dietlibc for use in the initramfs 08:33 < _Ragnar_> why? 08:33 < rxr> unfortunatly the fl_wrapper does only work for dynamically linked executables ,-) 08:33 < _Ragnar_> yes I fell over that, too;p 08:33 < _Ragnar_> ouch 08:33 < _Ragnar_> *lol* 08:33 < _Ragnar_> uhm:) 08:33 < rxr> I think we should rethink how to track file mods in teh future 08:34 < _Ragnar_> yea 08:34 < _Ragnar_> btw I tried to trace that error with strace ... but that wouldn't work either, would always go to a kinda frozen state with most procs as T, but no way to wake them up again 08:35 < rxr> hm 08:47 -!- azu1 [~hfsjdi@dtm9-d9bbc3da.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #t2 08:52 < azu1> hello 08:58 < rxr> moin azu1 09:01 < rxr> azu1: we released 2.1.0-rc1 09:01 < rxr> see the list 09:01 < rxr> I already submitted news to freshmeat and symlink.ch 09:01 < rxr> == 06/21/05 09:01:09 =[9]=> Finished building package r. 09:06 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 09:07 < minto> hi all 09:08 < rxr> moin minto 09:08 < minto> hi rxr, I still have to arrange you some accommodation. 09:12 < rxr> what do you intend? If you have some guests-room or so I think it would be very fine ... 09:14 < minto> Unfortunately I do not have any spare rooms. But there is a budget hotel near. 09:25 < rxr> hm - CIA-12 is again missing it seems 09:26 < _Ragnar_> nini folks 09:27 < rxr> cu _Ragnar_ 09:35 < azu1> rxr : sry. I was away. Super 09:36 < azu1> Have I to write a press information or have we do wait until the final will be realesed 09:37 < rxr> I think waiting for the -final makes sense 09:39 < azu1> ok, but maybe we can write something in our new board 09:40 < rxr> Until August 2005, our Non Commercial customers will continue to get Intel(R) Compilers version 8.1. After that, they will be able to access and download our latest Intel Compilers version 9.0. 09:40 < rxr> oh 09:41 < azu1> our is the rc1 until "intern" 09:41 < rxr> ? 09:41 < azu1> our is the rc1 only "intern" 09:42 < rxr> no - it is not for intern use only 09:42 < azu1> ok 09:43 < azu1> so maybe wew can write something about it in the Board 09:44 < rxr> azu1: though I think the boards/forum are a good idea, you will not see me too much in it 09:44 < rxr> I have a job to do, do a lot to t2 and already do much PR and article writing 09:44 < rxr> I have no time for whatever other activity 09:45 -!- veki [~chatzilla@217.24.19.40] has joined #t2 09:45 < azu1> I can also write an articel 09:45 < rxr> sure 09:45 < rxr> hi veki 09:45 < azu1> ho veki 09:45 < rxr> azu1: you are on the t2 list and saw the release announcement ? 09:45 < azu1> It was a general question 09:46 < azu1> yes 09:48 < azu1> I could also copy the english text from the website 09:48 < azu1> cant I? 09:49 < rxr> sure 09:49 < azu1> :) Then I have only to write an german articel 09:52 < veki> hi 09:53 < valentin> re 09:54 < azu1> hi valentin 09:55 < rxr> moin valentin 09:55 < veki> I finished compilation of minimal router target 09:56 < veki> :-) 09:56 < veki> Did anyone test its performance? 09:56 < valentin> rxr: the commit statistic in your release email is 2.1 branch only, right ? 09:57 < rxr> the router target is one of the older ones - not too often used these days 09:57 < valentin> veki: i wonder how many ppl actually use this target :/ 09:57 < rxr> valentin: of course 09:57 < veki> OK, we will see and that is teh way how we can test it is the target good. I will try 09:57 < valentin> good. just curios why my commits were missing. but i never commited into 2.1 directly 09:58 < rxr> I think we should drop pre-releases in teh future 09:58 < rxr> do the development (we will not have too big breaking changes in the future - aside u/dev transition) and release what we have on the date 09:58 < rxr> as openbsd does 09:59 < rxr> if s.th. needs fixing release a .x thereafter (as openbsd does not seem to do - seems CVS is in use for post release changes / fixes) 10:01 < veki> which target you prefer for testing? 10:01 < rxr> massive flood of "devfs: Remove ..." mails on linux kernel 10:01 < rxr> veki: for tiny work we use embedded these days 10:02 < rxr> I think it should include router related stuff already and cross compile complete and uses uclibc or dietlibc - way smaller 10:02 < azu1> I added the news 10:02 < veki> OK, if anyone does have old sitting-in-the-corner PC which may become router, may that person use T2 minimal router target 10:03 < rxr> veki: the router target always was a demo - I think never really used 10:03 < rxr> veki: In my opinion the embedded target is the way to go 10:03 < rxr> but your milage may differ 10:04 < veki> I agree, but I think on possible small NGO or small enterprise 10:05 < veki> I would like to build target which a couple of users can test so we can sy that t2 is really working in action 10:12 < rxr> embedded can be user as router 10:13 < rxr> it si just small and only includes the needed stuff 10:13 < rxr> it si just more modern that router and complete cross builds and even builds magnitudes faster due to the cross build everything with no rebuile in the sandbox as done in the aging router test target 10:20 < valentin> azu1: url ? 10:23 < rxr> guess at this board url 10:23 < valentin> which is ? 10:26 < rxr> http://t2.pc-help-city.de/ 10:26 < rxr> ^- gives forbidden ... 10:26 < rxr> let my grep my logs 10:27 < rxr> http://t2.pc-help-city.de/eng/ 10:27 < rxr> no idea about the german one then ... 10:27 < azu1> t2.pc-help-city.de/ger 10:28 < rxr> would be normal convertions and international codes be /en /de ? ... 10:29 < azu1> why not the english codes? eng/ger/ and so on 10:29 < azu1> but i will make a site on t2.pc-help-city.de 10:30 < rxr> well - it is your forum - as you wish ,-) 10:30 < azu1> there you can choose German English French and so on 10:31 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:34 < azu1> Its not my board, its our board 10:36 < azu1> I have only made the board, but it is for us and not for me 10:36 < rxr> oh - i c you start to get a community feeling 10:36 < rxr> valentin: do you do livecd related work today? 10:37 < valentin> i think i will. did you create a repository yet ? 10:37 < azu1> ;-) 10:37 < rxr> no - i can right now 10:37 < veki> I have to go now, I will be back later:-) 10:37 < veki> cu 10:38 < azu1> ciao 10:38 -!- veki [~chatzilla@217.24.19.40] has left #t2 [] 10:39 < valentin> damn - i ruined my fstab ... 10:40 < rxr> ? 10:41 < valentin> killed this file by accident 10:41 < valentin> wanted to overwrite mtab and typed to fast 10:42 < valentin> do i need usbfs in it ? 10:43 < rxr> maybe 10:43 < rxr> I think with you using rockplug it is mounted automatically 10:43 < rxr> by rockplug 10:47 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/internal-t2-targets/ 10:47 < rxr> your usual pass 10:47 < rxr> empty right now 10:48 < valentin> thx 10:51 < azu1> http://www.pc-help-city.de/admin/Scannen.jpg 10:53 < azu1> Is that correct? 10:53 < rxr> ? 10:55 < rxr> http://distrowatch.com/ 10:55 < azu1> why "?" ? 10:55 < azu1> good 10:55 < rxr> azu1: I wants a password from me - and I do not know what you want to know about the jpg I can not see ... 10:56 < valentin> azu1: you need a password 10:56 < azu1> oh 10:56 < azu1> mom 10:57 < valentin> this stupid mksquashfs is sensitve to argument order 10:58 < rxr> valentin: if some more of the news show up on the sites your server migth get hit today ... 10:58 < azu1> "User Forums --" cann you change this? 11:00 < azu1> http://www.pc-help-city.de/Scannen.jpg 11:02 < rxr> valentin: yes - the arg parse is touchy ... minimal at best ... 11:02 < rxr> it wants source destination first 11:02 < rxr> azu1: ehrm? do you want me / us to check your flow chart ? 11:03 < azu1> yes 11:06 < valentin> you have to do this for school ? 11:07 < rxr> http://freshmeat.net/ 11:07 < azu1> no its only for me 11:07 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0506/38749.html 11:08 < valentin> why do you have to if(zahl1 == 0) zahl1 = 0 ? 11:09 < rxr> valentin: what are you bets, will heise.de or osnews.com take the news ... ? :-( 11:09 < valentin> not good :/ 11:09 < valentin> heise ignores our campains for years now 11:10 < rxr> yeah ... 11:10 < rxr> and osnews.com recently wrote me that they publish major vendor news one ... 11:12 < valentin> azu: maybe you tell us first what this program should do and the meaning of your action remarks (e.g "zahl1 merken" ?) 11:13 < rxr> ehrm - I do not want to be too rude, but this is better discussed on some programming beginner newsgroup or mailing list 11:13 < rxr> somewhere where people actually want to review those ... 11:14 < valentin> btw azu1: your calculator is missing a "C/CE" function to reset 11:14 < rxr> so - let's contineu the livecd code to build the real livecd image in one go from the t2 source 11:15 < valentin> hm squashing on my ibook seems to take long 11:15 < azu1> It should be a pocket calculator 11:16 < valentin> so you should reset zahl1 and zahl2 after output of ergebnis ? 11:16 < rxr> valentin: for the recent live-cd it takes 20 minutes on my Athlon XP 2500+ 11:16 < azu1> ok 11:18 < valentin> well it seems to be almost finished 11:18 < rxr> "Windows OneCare" .oO 11:18 < azu1> :) 11:23 < valentin> rxr: it is finished and it took 20 minutes 11:23 < valentin> 25 even 11:23 < valentin> so my 900 Mhz iBook is almost as fast as your Athlon XP ??? 11:24 < rxr> maybe ,-) 11:24 < rxr> for this kind of compression task 11:24 < valentin> wow we found a benchmark where ppc actually rocks 11:24 < rxr> btw. on my iBook every i/o related is slow due to the aging 2,5" disk ... 11:25 < rxr> yeah - should take squashfs into openbench ,-) 11:25 < valentin> :) 11:35 < rxr> hm Eugenia runs one of her osnews.com is my private blog storries on osnews.com - guess this will not make the t2 pass thru ... 11:35 < rxr> http://osnews.com/story.php?news_id=10923 11:37 < valentin> haha 11:37 < valentin> only news of relevancy ? 11:38 < rxr> yeah - OS X is what matters 11:41 * rxr shortly away 11:43 < valentin> well, it is not OS X but "i am to stupid to configure my panther" 11:44 < rxr> well - it is more like "tiger lack major bluetooth functionality and is hard to setup" 12:10 < rxr> hm 12:11 < sepp> hello 12:11 < azu1> gi sepp 12:12 < sepp> hi azu1 12:13 < rxr> hm - I have the feeling the moir? pattern on my LCD is caused by too seperated R G an B components 12:15 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/new/imgp0224.jpg 12:15 < rxr> ^- right 12:15 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/new/imgp0225.jpg 12:15 < rxr> ^- left 12:16 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/new/imgp0228.jpg 12:16 < rxr> ^- iBok 12:16 < rxr> +o 12:16 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 12:16 < minto> Hi 12:18 < rxr> hi 12:18 < azu1> hi minto 12:19 < valentin> moin minto 12:22 < minto> Hi valentin, how is Kirsten doing? 12:22 < valentin> Kerstin, she is fine. thank you 12:22 < valentin> how is your fam ? 12:23 < minto> Nice, must be exciting these last few weeks. 12:23 < minto> My family is fine, my son (Merlyn) is sleeping right now. 12:23 < valentin> quite exiciting, sometimes i get nervous now 12:23 * rxr finally and quickly out for lunch ingredients 12:24 < minto> Valentin: No need to get nervous. Billions have done it before. 12:25 < valentin> :) 12:26 < valentin> we prepare for everything that needs to be done before. besides that, i try enjoy my last days of freedom *g* 12:27 < minto> It depends on how you lived before, but having children is not that bad. 12:27 < minto> At least for me it wasn't 12:27 < valentin> minto: i believe it will be not that bad, otherwise kerstin would not have been pregnant now 12:28 < minto> :-) 12:29 < minto> I hope you'll get a sleeper (like we did). Otherwise, no decent sleep for quite a while. 12:29 < minto> for you, that is. 12:29 < minto> and Kirsten, ofcourse 12:29 < valentin> not that i am missunderstood - i am very much looking forward to the birth of our daughter. but till this point i just enjoy my freedom (e.g. in choosing sleep cycles) 12:30 < valentin> hm, a sleeper ... :) 12:30 < minto> I guessed so, never heard an undecent work regarding your firstborn :-) 12:31 < minto> Have you and K picked a name already? 12:31 < valentin> yep 12:31 < valentin> but it is a secret 12:32 < minto> In time I will find out anyway. :-D 12:33 < valentin> i will tell you when she arrived 12:34 < minto> You'll probably have picked a beautifull name. I wouldn't expect otherwise with both parents having beautifull names. 12:35 < valentin> :) 12:41 -!- madtux [~mike@65.182.14.29] has quit ["Leaving"] 12:52 < rxr> re 12:59 < valentin> hm, no k3b on the livecd ? 13:00 < rxr> might have forgotten to insert it ... 13:02 < valentin> back in some minutes 13:04 < minto> rxr: Do you prefer a hotel downtown amsterdam or close to me. 13:04 < minto> downtown makes it easier to have a look at amsterdam. 13:05 < rxr> minto: ehrm - aha - well, you know amsterdam choose something reasonable and not too expensive, please ,-) 13:06 < minto> Okay, what I will do is two nights close and 2 nights downtown. 13:07 < rxr> ,-) 13:12 -!- morfoh [~jeru@mail.oberlinhaus.de] has joined #t2 13:12 < morfoh> hi all 13:12 < minto> hi morfoh :-) 13:12 < morfoh> hi TOUR operator ;) 13:14 < rxr> in rock's submaster there are many updates - all already in t2 13:14 < rxr> i wonder if someone did some version diffinng between t2 and rock 13:18 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/data//2005/05/1910110517838.patch 13:18 < rxr> ^- haha - look at the I and T tags 13:21 -!- azureus [~hfsjdi@dtm9-d9bbc3da.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #t2 13:23 < rxr> azureus: you are pushing too hard - don't you notice we are not interested in correcting your excercises and requests what to do - and constant private querries? I'll not hand out my list of PR contacts to someone that just joined a few days ago and whom I can not judge are his next steps ... 13:24 < rxr> azureus: start using T2, figure out if it is for you and contribute what is useful for you - then we can speak about PR contacts and pushing news somewhere 13:24 < rxr> how do you want to push news if you do not know too much of the product / project ... 13:25 * rxr back to work ... 13:26 < minto> rxr: I think I found you a nice downtown hotel. Unfortunately the shower is down the hall. Do you mind? 13:26 < minto> http://www.hoteliers.nl/amsterdam/art-gallery-hotel/en 13:29 < rxr> minto: btw. how good is the public transport in amsterdam? 13:29 < minto> very good, why 13:30 < rxr> minto: to get from the downtown hotel to you without car and such ... ,-) 13:30 < rxr> minto: photos of the hotel look good ,-) 13:31 < minto> Don't worry, I can pick you up somewhere. 13:33 < minto> Most downtown hotels are fully booked in the weekend. That is why I am gonna book you a budget hotel almost around the corner for the first two nights. We can move you downtown once they are free. 13:33 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.197.205.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:37 < azureus> rxr: I will try it more calmly . I'm currently downloading the RC1 13:38 < morfoh> rxr: ./scripts/Emerge seems to have a problem ... 13:38 < morfoh> checking libprelude ... New version (0.9.0-rc6 -> 0.9.0-rc8). Added. 13:38 < morfoh> this looks ok 13:38 < morfoh> but it first installed rc8 and tried rc7 afterwards 13:39 < rxr> morfoh: first c8 and then rc7 ? in one Emerge ? 13:39 < morfoh> yes 13:39 < morfoh> I tried an update from rc6 to rc8 13:40 < rxr> where did it got tc7 from ? 13:40 < morfoh> let me see 13:40 -!- azu1 [~hfsjdi@dtm9-d9bbc3da.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:49 < rxr> == 13:47:17 =[9]=> Building x11/sunbird [0.2 2.2.0-alpha]. 14:11 < rxr> I miss CIA-12 14:37 -!- veki [~chatzilla@217.24.19.40] has joined #t2 14:41 < veki> hi 14:42 < veki> I am compiling boot rescue target right now 14:42 < veki> minimal router target compiled on machine of CPU 450MHz for less than 36 hours :-) 14:42 < veki> I know that desktop will last a coiple of days :-) 14:45 -!- veki [~chatzilla@217.24.19.40] has left #t2 [] 14:57 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.214.231.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 14:57 < sepp> hi * 14:58 < azureus> hi 14:58 < morfoh> hi sepp :) 14:58 < sepp> http://home.arcor.de/sebastian.czech/t2/bk.tif 14:58 < sepp> only a idea ... 14:58 < sepp> hi morfoh, azureus 15:26 -!- azureus [~hfsjdi@dtm9-d9bbc3da.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [] 15:39 -!- mipe [~mika@n98.ip2.netikka.fi] has joined #t2 15:44 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:11 < rxr> re 16:11 < morfoh> wb rxr 16:18 < rxr> hm - I'm off again - tring to exchange the TFT i brougth yesterday - it has strange moir? paterns on the left side when you refocus your eye 16:18 < rxr> very strange 16:18 < rxr> never saw this before with other TFTs and it doen't have this issue on the right side ... 16:18 < rxr> model is: LG FLATRON L1915SV - for reference 16:22 < rxr> cu :-( 16:24 < mnemoc_> moin 16:26 -!- mnemoc_ is now known as mnemoc 16:27 -!- mnemoc changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 | 2.1.0-rc1 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ 16:33 < morfoh> hi mnemoc 16:33 < mnemoc> hi morfoh 16:33 < morfoh> how you doing today ... tired old man ? ;) 16:34 < mnemoc> tired and old :) 16:34 < morfoh> rxr: where should we enable the generation of .pyc files ? 16:34 < mnemoc> and you? 16:35 < morfoh> hmmm ... quite tired and quite old ;) 16:36 < morfoh> mnemoc: or perhaps do you know an answer ... how can we enable the generation of .pyc files from installed .py files while building a package 16:37 < mnemoc> afaik python does that when you run it 16:37 < mnemoc> #python ? 16:37 < mnemoc> how to compile .py without running it :p 16:39 -!- morfoh [~jeru@mail.oberlinhaus.de] has quit [Excess Flood] 16:40 -!- morfoh [~jeru@mail.oberlinhaus.de] has joined #t2 17:20 -!- rxr_ [rene@e178174058.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 17:20 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc1 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ 17:20 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Tue Jun 21 16:27:15 2005] 17:20 [Users #t2] 17:20 [ _Lewellyn] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ nzg ] [ sepp ] [ valentin] 17:20 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ lewellyn] [ morfoh] [ rxr ] [ SerWou ] 17:20 [ CIA-12 ] [ mipe ] [ mtr ] [ rxr_] [ sparc-kly] 17:20 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal] 17:20 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 17:20 -!- [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 17:20 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 10 secs 17:36 -!- rxr [rene@e178160214.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:40 -!- azu1 [~hfsjdi@dtm9-d9bbc3da.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #t2 17:40 < azu1> re 17:43 < rxr_> rehi 17:44 < rxr_> hm - the new tft is not too much better - just constant ... 17:44 < rxr_> maybe I should just not look too closely to it ... 17:44 -!- You're now known as rxr 17:45 < rxr> morfoh: mnemoc: not #python - we can take a look ourself as well - since many packages do this during their installation ... 17:45 < rxr> package/www/mozilla/mozilla.conf: line 72: 7966 Segmentation fault (core d 17:45 < rxr> umped) LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. ./regchrome 17:45 < rxr> uh - oh 17:45 < _Ragnar_> make: *** No rule to make target `/export/t2-trunk/build/router-2.2.0-alpha-x86-generic/lib/modules/2.6.12-dist/build/Rules.make'. Stop. 17:45 < _Ragnar_> Due to previous errors, no 1-linux26.log file! 17:46 < _Ragnar_> .. 17:49 -!- tilix [~ilia@pppoe11.bol.bg] has joined #t2 17:49 -!- tilix [~ilia@pppoe11.bol.bg] has left #t2 ["Konversation terminated!"] 17:53 < rxr> It apppears that Contois Music Technology is suing Apple Computer over the UI to its iTunes music software. 17:53 < rxr> ^- those big tel and com companies are just to stupid ... 17:54 < morfoh> == 17:53:04 =[9]=> Building develop/docutils [0.3.7 ]. <-- where is the version info ??? 17:57 < mnemoc> butuhm 17:57 < mnemoc> uhm 17:57 < mnemoc> sdever at scripts/parse-config 17:58 < rxr> ? 17:58 < rxr> [V] 0.3.9 17:58 < rxr> "[V] 0.3.9 " 17:59 < rxr> -^ 18:01 < morfoh> rxr: 2.1 branch 18:50 < morfoh> hmmm ... CIA not active 18:50 -!- mipe [~mika@n98.ip2.netikka.fi] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:03 -!- mipe [~mika@n98.ip2.netikka.fi] has joined #t2 19:03 -!- mtr_ [~Michael@p54AF955A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 19:08 -!- mtr [~Michael@p54AF8423.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:17 < morfoh> ok ... I'll leave now ... cu later 19:17 -!- morfoh [~jeru@mail.oberlinhaus.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:19 -!- azureus [~hfsjdi@dtm9-d9bbc3da.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #t2 19:22 < azureus> I have got an problem with the install of rhe RC1 19:23 < azureus> after the installation he wants to un-mount all and reboot 19:27 < sepp> this is the problem? 19:30 < azureus> yes 19:30 < azureus> I have to try it again 19:30 < sepp> why it is the last step 19:31 < sepp> what is wrong with umount and reboot? 19:31 < azureus> Isnt this wrong? 19:31 < sepp> no 19:31 < azureus> after he reboots he dosent start T2 19:32 < sepp> you have to setup grub 19:32 < valentin> did you setup a bootloader ? 19:32 < sepp> in stone 19:32 < azureus> I have done it 19:32 < valentin> did you create a device map before ? 19:32 < azureus> I have installed Grub 19:32 < sepp> 1,2,3 in the grub menu? 19:33 < azureus> hmm im not sure 19:33 < azureus> I try it again and asked you again when he has load the cd 1 and 2 19:34 < valentin> azureus: does a grup menu show up on boot ? 19:34 < valentin> or no bootloader at all ? 19:35 < azureus> he does not boot grup 19:36 < azureus> he boots nothings 19:36 < sepp> if you have the livecd you can use this grus shell to boot from hd 19:37 -!- azu1 [~hfsjdi@dtm9-d9bbc3da.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:39 < azureus> I have delete the live cd 20:21 -!- mipe [~mika@n98.ip2.netikka.fi] has quit ["sleep"] 20:21 -!- azureus [~hfsjdi@dtm9-d9bbc3da.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:22 < rxr> cu later 20:23 < mnemoc> cu rxr 20:24 -!- azu1 [~hfsjdi@dtm9-d9bbc3da.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #t2 20:25 < azu1> I have try it again 20:25 < azu1> But i have the same problem again 20:27 < azu1> I dont know why 20:29 < sepp> you 20:30 < sepp> installed grub in the mbr? 20:30 < azu1> yes 20:30 < sepp> hd0 ? 20:30 < azu1> yes 20:30 < sepp> and no sign of grub when you boot? 20:30 < azu1> no 20:31 < sepp> what else happens? 20:31 < azu1> nothing happens 20:32 < azu1> he doesnt boot anything 20:33 < azu1> Maybe i have to delete all partitions? 20:33 < sepp> are you sure it tries to boot from hd? 20:33 < azu1> yes 20:33 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 20:34 < azu1> i have installed now slax 20:34 < minto> Hi all 20:34 < azu1> no problems 20:34 < azu1> hi minto 20:34 < azu1> this is why I think he boot from the hd 20:35 < sepp> ok 20:35 < sepp> hi minto 20:37 < azu1> this is the same notebook where he has got problems with the live-cd 20:38 < sepp> no clue, maybe lilo works 20:38 < minto> hi sepp, nice image. Maybe add something like: T2 - Put your own Distro together. 20:40 < mnemoc> what image? 20:40 < sepp> it is only to test a new idea, you we like the idea at all 20:40 < sepp> http://home.arcor.de/sebastian.czech/t2/bk.tif 20:41 < sepp> if we like the idea* 20:41 < minto> http://home.arcor.de/sebastian.czech/t2/bk.tif 20:41 < minto> It was from sepp, wasn't it? 20:41 < sepp> yes 20:42 < minto> Ohh, I should learn to read before responding. 20:42 < azu1> ok I try to install lilo 20:44 -!- jaques [~jeru@p54BFD725.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 20:45 < jaques> bonjour 20:46 < sepp> hi jaques 20:46 < jaques> salut sepp 21:01 < azu1> hi japques 21:03 < jaques> bonsoir azu1 21:08 < rxr> re 21:09 < rxr> welcome jaques 21:09 < jaques> bonsoir rxr 21:27 < SerWou> bonsoir 21:29 < jaques> SerWou: bonsoir 21:31 < SerWou> il y a du français dans la place ? ;) 21:32 < mnemoc> ahora yo me pongo a hablar en castellano entonces? 21:33 < SerWou> no senior mnemoc 21:33 < SerWou> no todos el mundo habla espanol 21:34 < mnemoc> :) 21:34 < SerWou> de donde estas ? 21:34 < SerWou> man, my spanish sucks ;) 21:35 < valentin> hi mnemoc, btw 21:35 < mnemoc> hi valentin 21:35 < mnemoc> SerWou: 'from where are you ?' ?? 21:36 < SerWou> yes, where do you live ? 21:37 < mnemoc> 'donde vives?' :) 21:37 < mnemoc> chile, rancagua. 21:37 < SerWou> done vives ;) 21:37 < SerWou> with the reversed ? 21:38 < mnemoc> ¿donde vives?, yes 21:38 < SerWou> yess 21:38 < SerWou> i don't have it on my keyboard 21:39 < mnemoc> i do 21:44 < azu1> I have try it again, but it also does not start linu 22:19 -!- azureus1 [~hfsjdi@dtm9-d9bbc3da.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #t2 22:19 < sepp> http://home.arcor.de/sebastian.czech/t2/t2-building_blocks.png 22:20 < sepp> ^ very rough representation of a new logo idea 22:21 < azureus1> looks good 22:21 < jaques> sepp: the blocks are a good idea but the SDE on top is a bit strange 22:22 < mnemoc> yes 22:22 < sepp> jaques: as i said very rough 22:22 < sepp> only to test if we like it ... 22:22 < mnemoc> i like it 22:22 < mnemoc> great concept 22:26 * valentin too 22:27 < valentin> quite heavy lightning above 22:28 * mnemoc imagines t2 website on green and yellow :) 22:29 < sepp> oh i made this 5 minute graphic to show the main idea - nothing more ;) 22:30 < mnemoc> i like, also the colors 22:30 < mnemoc> +it 22:30 < sepp> and to get feedback if it is ok 22:31 < jaques> sepp: this green yellow combination conflicts a bit with your eyefriendly thinkings of a web site ;) 22:32 < sepp> argh yes it is not the final version just a fast made mockup 22:32 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.4/20050511]"] 22:32 < jaques> sepp: okokok ... coooool down :) 22:32 < sepp> :) 22:34 -!- azureus1 [~hfsjdi@dtm9-d9bbc3da.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 22:38 < sepp> i had a wood building blocks kit as child, painted in signal colours :) 22:39 -!- azu1 [~hfsjdi@dtm9-d9bbc3da.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:40 < jaques> sepp: now I know why it was shining green and yellow :) 22:40 < mnemoc> :) 22:40 -!- jaques is now known as morfoh 22:46 < mnemoc> :) 22:47 < morfoh> :) 22:48 < sepp> :) 22:49 < morfoh> :) 22:49 < mnemoc> :) 22:49 < sepp> :) 22:49 < morfoh> sepp: you missed 22:49 < morfoh> or no I missed 22:50 < morfoh> or what ? 22:50 < morfoh> :D 22:50 < sepp> *lol* 22:50 < morfoh> oh ... now I remember .. .oO( there was a beer in my fridge )o 22:51 < morfoh> we should use this "smiling t2 laolo" as logo 22:53 -!- SerWou [~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Client Quit] 22:54 -!- SerWou [~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #t2 22:54 < SerWou> hello bacl 22:54 < morfoh> wb SerWou 22:57 < rxr> re 22:59 < mnemoc> re rxr 23:01 < morfoh> hi rxr 23:02 -!- SerWou [~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Client Quit] 23:04 -!- SerWou [~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #t2 23:04 -!- SerWou [~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Client Quit] 23:05 -!- SerWou [~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #t2 23:05 -!- SerWou [~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Client Quit] 23:05 -!- SerWou [~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #t2 23:05 -!- SerWou [~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Client Quit] 23:06 -!- SerWou [~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #t2 23:06 < SerWou> ok 23:06 < SerWou> fixed ;) 23:06 < SerWou> # [] | {} @ 23:06 < SerWou> ;) 23:06 < morfoh> SerWou: it ws the option? right ? 23:07 < SerWou> no 23:07 < morfoh> what then ? 23:07 * rxr bed - cu 23:07 < SerWou> that "#modmap .xmodmaprc &" in my .xinitrc 23:07 < SerWou> see you rxr 23:07 < SerWou> i don't know what is it 23:09 < morfoh> sleep well rxr 23:11 < SerWou> gonna sleep too 23:11 < SerWou> see you guys 23:12 < morfoh> cu SerWou --- Log closed Wed Jun 22 00:00:00 2005