T2 IRC Log: 2005-06-15

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--- Log opened Wed Jun 15 00:00:00 2005
00:02 < rxr> ok - now the damn "my name is perl" biest built the modules itself
00:04 < rxr> _Lewellyn: where do I have to add the license key thinkg ?
00:04 < _Lewellyn> 4.5 is smart enough to tell you to install the kernel sources :)
00:04 < _Lewellyn> rxr: once you start it in X.
00:04 < _Lewellyn> the keys are per-user
00:04 < rxr> _Lewellyn: the thing is I initially did not wanted the kernel sources just to make the beast happy ...
00:04 < _Lewellyn> heh.
00:05 < rxr> ok - and where to inject it in the evil gtk+ gui ?
00:05 < _Lewellyn> here, it's Help -> Enter Serial Number
00:05 < rxr> ah - indeed
00:05 < rxr> help - my godness ...
00:06 < _Lewellyn> well, it starts prompting very quickly :)
00:06 < _Lewellyn> i think the option is mostly there for warez kiddies who no longer have a valid serial and finally buy one :)
00:06 < rxr> nope it wanted to crate a new vm - so I did
00:06 < rxr> and on start it told me my license expired - and I should contact them ...
00:06 < _Lewellyn> i don't think it lets you power on the vm till you enter a serial
00:07 < rxr> hm - damn - how way the serial no. mail named I received from them ...
00:07 < rxr> hm - did I at all ... ?=
00:07 < _Lewellyn> rxr: you're helping me decide to stick with 4.5 :)
00:16 < rxr> does "error saving the serial number" mean it is not valid?
00:16 < rxr> or that there is some other problem ...
00:16 < rxr> who writes such software ?!?!?!
00:17 < rxr> hm - no when I alter it it tells me it is not valid ...
00:18 < rxr> which .vmware dir do I need to creat for this sloppy software?
00:18 < _Lewellyn> um. you shouldn't have to create any directories
00:18 < _Lewellyn> just copy/paste from the email
00:18 < rxr> yeha ...
00:18 < _Lewellyn> else, file a bug and hope they get back to you this month :(
00:18 < rxr> I did - and it complains it can nto save the serial ...
00:18 < rxr> nah
00:18 < _Lewellyn> why vmware, btw?
00:19 < _Lewellyn> why not serenity?
00:21 < rxr> because I want to test it these days ...
00:21 * _Lewellyn wishes serenity was available when he started at this job :(
00:21 < _Lewellyn> oh
00:21 < rxr> if it takes me any longer I rm -rf this crap and continue fidling with ien ..
00:21 < _Lewellyn> vmware is not the most robust piece of sftware.
00:21 < rxr> serenity ?
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00:21 < keinek> hi
00:22 < _Lewellyn> https://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?threadID=18066&messageID=201176𱇘
00:22 < _Lewellyn> my latest big beef with vmware
00:22 < _Lewellyn> and www.serenityvirtual.com
00:29 < mnemoc> re
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00:35 < rxr> _Lewellyn: what exactly is serenity about ?
00:36 < _Lewellyn> it's an alternative to vmware with wider host support
00:38 < CIA-7> sebastian * r9676 /trunk/package/x11/xorg/ (config.hlp config.in xorg.conf xorg.desc): * added a xorg option to build the unichrome driver from sf.net - not the xorg one
00:42 < rxr> now the beast does not like my /tmp tmpfs ...
00:43 < rxr> complains too full ...
00:43 < sepp> ^ it is default disabled - i have not tested it on non unichrome hardware ...
00:43 < sepp> but on unichrome devices it works really well
00:44 < mnemoc> shouldn't that be done with an unichrome package extending xorg?
00:44 < sepp> hmm it is no extension it is a default disabled replacement
00:47 < sepp> you can no simply add a unichrome pkg because the driver will be shared with xorg
00:47 < rxr> can I tell vmware to not use /tmp ?
00:48 < rxr> aside hacking up a preload librray transforming pathes ...
00:48 < rxr> is this software tested at all ?
00:48 < sepp> mnemoc: and i added a menu text "Only use this if you have a VIA/S3G unichrome graphics controller which does not work with xorg."
00:48 < sepp> is this ok?
00:49 < sepp> i need this driver for a laptop
00:50 < rxr> sepp: I think it is ok
00:50 < rxr> I would even patch the driver to work at any build ...
00:51 < sepp> rxr: i am not sure if it will work on all via chips
00:51 < sepp> i think so but i am not 100% sure
00:51 < rxr> there aren't too many ...
00:51 < mnemoc> is unichrome always better than via driver?
00:52 < sepp> mnemoc: at least for the 2 notebooks i tested xorg does not work at all - but to be safe i made it a option
00:53 < mnemoc> .oO
00:54 < sepp> xorg will not use the unichrome driver if you do not check the xorg/uni. checkbox
00:55 < rxr> ah - TMPDIR :..
00:56 < rxr> hm - still using tmp ...
00:56 < rxr> crappy shit
00:57 < rxr> maybe qemu with the kernel accelerator will serve me more ...
00:58 < mnemoc> kernel accelerator?
00:59 < _Lewellyn> rxr: um. i don't know. i'd ask on the forum.
00:59 < _Lewellyn> (about the tmp issue)
00:59 < rxr> nope - this is too much crap
00:59 < rxr> i want natuarlly speaking in wine anyway
00:59 < rxr> I rm -rf this crap pretty soon
00:59 < sepp> i tested the unichrome thing on 3 boxes - if you dont select it it wont change xorg and if you do the only thing you get is a working via driver ;)
01:00 < _Lewellyn> rxr: personally, i am not a huge vmware fan
01:00 < mnemoc> i don't like this kind of options...
01:00 < rxr> mnemoc: ?
01:00 < rxr> sepp: as I wrote if the via driver is in a non-working state, patch it into a working one in any build ...
01:01 < rxr> however - I just remember the via driver works on the live cd on my farthers via box
01:01 < rxr> it is the castle rock chip as listed in the certified livecd list
01:01 < rxr> on the homepage
01:01 < mnemoc> if via driver works better than unichrome on some cases, and unichrome better than via on others it should be an additional package, not an optional replace
01:01 < _Lewellyn> um. what is wrong with the xorg driver, and why would someone want it over the sf one?
01:02 < mnemoc> if via dirver just sucks, removing it official and use always unichrome instead
01:02 < sepp> mnemoc: hmm this would involve many xorg changes
01:02 < rxr> sepp: isn't the name of the driver the same?
01:02 < sepp> yes it would be shared ...
01:02 < rxr> isn't it always via anyway? I mean we talk about different trees here, right ?
01:03 < sepp> r29 is already in xorg's cvs
01:03 < rxr> ok - this is enough
01:03 < rxr> rm -rf vmware crap at all ...
01:03 < mnemoc> :)
01:03 < rxr> grummel - this is the last time I wasted time on such a crappy - I miss the words - really ...
01:03 < rxr> pure junk
01:03 < mnemoc> sepp: in that case, there is no need to do it optional
01:04 < sepp> mnemoc: i made it optional because i have no non unichrome hw to test
01:05 < rxr> unichrome as this castle rock of my farther ?
01:05 < sepp> i really dont know
01:06 < rxr> sell - just patch it in I would say ...
01:06 < sepp> via invented a million names for this chip
01:06 < rxr> # killall -9 vmware
01:06 < _Ragnar_> ;D
01:06 * rxr rebooting to get rid of the vmware crap modules ...
01:06 < _Ragnar_> you don't like vmware?:)
01:07 < rxr> removed `/lib/modules/2.6.11.12-skas3-dist/misc/vmmon.ko'
01:07 < rxr> removed `/lib/modules/2.6.11.12-skas3-dist/misc/vmmon.o'
01:07 < rxr> removed `/lib/modules/2.6.11.12-skas3-dist/misc/vmnet.ko'
01:07 < rxr> removed `/lib/modules/2.6.11.12-skas3-dist/misc/vmnet.o'
01:07 < rxr> _Ragnar_: I tried to use it - and it is such a hickup that I rather stop now ...
01:07 < rxr> I only want naturally speaking and best in wine ...
01:07 < rxr> I just wanted to test how it does in longer use ...
01:07 < _Ragnar_> ;)
01:07 < rxr> but - well ... see above ...
01:08 < _Ragnar_> yea ok
01:08 < _Lewellyn> rxr: vmware blows :(
01:08 < rxr> mnemoc: http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/qemu-accel.html
01:10 < sepp> hmm i will try to find a "non unic* labled notebook" tomorrow
01:10 < sepp> good night all
01:10 < mnemoc> gn8 sepp
01:10 < sepp> sorry for the via chaos :(
01:11 < mnemoc> don't worry
01:12 < rxr> re
01:12 < rxr> what choas ? ,-)
01:14 < CIA-7> amery * r9677 /trunk/package/mail/bincimap/bincimap.desc: * updated bincimap (1.3.3 -> 1.3.4)
01:15 < CIA-7> amery * r9678 /trunk/package/mail/bincimap12/bincimap12.desc: * updated bincimap12 (1.2.12final -> 1.2.13beta1)
01:15 < rxr> ouh - that is "recent"
01:18 < mnemoc> uhm=
01:18 < mnemoc> ?
01:20 < rxr> I just commented that those packages are very up to date now
01:20 < rxr> do you need special features of those in production =
01:20 < rxr> ? even
01:21 < mnemoc> no... i got the notification mails and feel like updating :p
01:22 < rxr> ah
01:25 < rxr> hm - with kqemu qemu seems to be a bit faster
01:25 < rxr> but I wonder if it is much faster ...
01:26 < mnemoc> are you happy with binc?
01:26 < rxr> it runs and runs and runs
01:26 < rxr> I never had any issue ...
01:26 < mnemoc> same here :)
01:26 < rxr> only thunderbird is crashing from time to time ...
01:26 < rxr> but I doubt it is binci's fault ,-)
01:27 < mnemoc> thunderbird+binc crashing also here....
01:28 < rxr> but with the mess mozilla code base it is more likely thunderbirds fault ...
01:28 < rxr> and I have tenthousand of mails in it ...
01:28 < rxr> even all private mails sine 199x ...
01:28 < rxr> over 600MB I think ...
01:28 < mnemoc> :)
01:38 < rxr> winxp install starting in (k)qemu
01:38 < rxr> let's see how long it takes
01:38 < rxr> (if it finishes at all)
01:40 < rxr> F8 I agree is cool ...
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01:46 < keinek> (k)qemu
01:46 < keinek> what is (k)??
01:47 < mnemoc> kernel accelerator
01:47 < mnemoc> mnemoc: http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/qemu-accel.html
01:47 < keinek> new version of qemu?
01:47 < keinek> Mmmm sounds good
01:47 < keinek> i like emus.
01:47 < mnemoc> :)
01:47 < keinek> but this is not a emu.
01:47 < keinek> is only a virtual machine.
01:47 < rxr> doesn not seem to acceleate much IMHO
01:47 < keinek> bochs is a real emu.
01:47 < rxr> windows copied 37% so far ...
01:48 < keinek> rxr if work fine tell me
01:48 < mnemoc> i think disk usage is the slow
01:58 < rxr> well - qemu as it is quite slow due to the hefty emulation ...
01:58 < rxr> 45% ...
01:59 < rxr> I think the disk i/o should be one of the faster qemus faster things ...
01:59 < mnemoc> oh
02:04 < keinek> i think that vmware is the best
02:04 < keinek> but... is comercial.
02:05 < keinek> i found 3 .tar with the modules.
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02:20 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc1 TAGGED - official .iso creation in progress | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/
02:20 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Thu Jun 9 04:36:32 2005]
02:20 [Users #t2]
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02:21 < mnemoc> "The QEMU Accelerator is free to use, but it is a closed source proprietary product."
02:21 < mnemoc> uhm
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02:46 < CIA-7> amery * r9679 /trunk/package/develop/boehm-gc/boehm-gc.desc: * updated boehm-gc (6.4 -> 6.5)
02:47 < mnemoc> keinek: what trouble are you having?
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05:57 < _Lewellyn> yay tsunamis!
05:57 < _Lewellyn> http://wcatwc.arh.noaa.gov/message.txt
05:57 * _Lewellyn should head out to the beach
05:57 < _Lewellyn> i should make it in time to see it show up
06:01 < mnemoc> uhm?
06:02 < mnemoc> you had a big earthquake too?
06:03 < _Lewellyn> didn't feel a thing
06:03 < mnemoc> we had a 7.x yesterday
06:03 < _Lewellyn> 7.8, yes
06:03 < _Lewellyn> http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/eq_depot/2005/2005_stats.html
06:04 < _Lewellyn> the media is reporting this one as a 7.4, but the usgs is claiming 7.0 now
06:04 < _Lewellyn> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqinthenews/2005/usziae/
06:06 < mnemoc> but we are used to :p
06:06 < _Lewellyn> ya, i was all "oh. a 7.0 quake. 90 MILES offshore. i'm not going to worry about that"
06:08 < _Lewellyn> been quiet here lately
06:08 < _Lewellyn> very few over 4.0
06:08 < _Lewellyn> 5.2 in middle of nowhere southern california on sunday
06:08 < mnemoc> :)
06:08 < CIA-7> amery * r9680 /trunk/package/develop/boehm-gc/no_doc.patch: * adapted boehm-gc/no_doc.patch to the new version (6.5)
06:09 < _Lewellyn> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsUS/Maps/US10/32.42.-125.-115.html
06:09 < _Lewellyn> "this week in california quakes" :)
06:09 < mnemoc> http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/eqlists/10maps_world.html <---
06:09 < _Lewellyn> 633 earthquakes on the map
06:10 < _Lewellyn> if you click the left-pointing arrow, look at the newest quake :)
06:10 < mnemoc> good server you have there
06:11 < _Lewellyn> ya, we don't make that list at all here, for all the people afraid of the quakes in california
06:11 * _Lewellyn loves the usgs
06:11 < _Lewellyn> it's one of the gov't programs we need to fund more
06:11 < mnemoc> oh, there was a 4.6 here today
06:11 < mnemoc> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsww/Quakes/uszhb8.htm
06:12 < mnemoc> 190 km (115 miles) NNW of Rancagua, Chile <--- this is me :p
06:13 < _Lewellyn> ya, we're used to a fair number of 4s and 5s iat "The Geysers"
06:13 < _Lewellyn> like 40 mi north of here
06:13 < _Lewellyn> and 190km is a fair distance :)
06:14 < mnemoc> :)
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06:16 < keinek> hi
06:16 < mnemoc> hi keinek
06:17 < mnemoc> http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/regressions.html <--- the next merge orgy
06:18 < _Lewellyn> morning keinek
06:18 * _Lewellyn reads "orgy" and has to follow the link
06:19 < keinek> night _Lewellyn :P
06:21 < mnemoc> :)
06:22 < _Lewellyn> speaking of "night"
06:22 < _Lewellyn> i should head out
06:22 < CIA-7> amery * r9681 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-netload-plugin/xfce4-netload-plugin.desc: * updated xfce4-netload-plugin (0.3.1 -> 0.3.2)
06:22 < _Lewellyn> mnemoc: what are all the "NO(3)" things?
06:23 < mnemoc> No yet built on stage 3
06:23 < _Lewellyn> ah
06:23 < mnemoc> look for the _UPDATED_ things
06:23 < mnemoc> those are the merges
06:23 < mnemoc> the rest is the build report
06:24 < _Lewellyn> oh
06:25 < CIA-7> amery * r9682 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-panelmenu/xfce4-panelmenu.desc: * updated xfce4-panelmenu (0.2.2 -> 0.3.1)
06:26 * _Lewellyn sits here waiting for his bank to spit back at him every transaction he's ever made
06:27 < _Lewellyn> so lame; i get a choice of "Last 30 Days" or "View All"
06:28 < mnemoc> All???
06:28 < _Lewellyn> yes. "all" :(
06:28 < _Lewellyn> finally finished
06:28 < _Lewellyn> about 5 mins
06:28 < mnemoc> we only have per month
06:28 < _Lewellyn> and it's not really all
06:29 < _Lewellyn> just back to 11/2002
06:29 < CIA-7> amery * r9683 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-weather-plugin/xfce4-weather-plugin.desc: * updated xfce4-weather-plugin (0.4.1 -> 0.4.9)
06:29 < _Lewellyn> heh. musta gone shopping this day:
06:29 < _Lewellyn> 12/21/2002 Merchant charge: SANRIO #870 - SAN FRANCISCO, CA -5.00
06:29 < _Lewellyn> 12/21/2002 Merchant charge: HAAGEN DAZS ICE CREAM - SAN FRANCISCO, CA -5.00
06:29 < _Lewellyn> 12/21/2002 Merchant charge: PACIFICA U SAVE LIQUOR - PACIFICA, CA -4.08
06:30 < mnemoc> 2002 :p
06:30 < _Lewellyn> takes a lot for me to get over hello kitty :)
06:30 < _Lewellyn> GAR
06:30 * _Lewellyn just cared about a charge on may 15
06:30 < _Lewellyn> and i really was double charged. so very lame.
06:30 < _Lewellyn> Merchant charge: SHAN RJA GROUP - SAN FRANCISCO, CA
06:31 < _Lewellyn> wonder what that was...
06:31 * _Lewellyn should read his statements more often
06:31 < mnemoc> :)
06:32 < _Lewellyn> i also find it amusing that i spent exactly $5 at the hello kitty store and again at haagen dazs
06:32 * _Lewellyn is easily amused
06:32 < mnemoc> :)
06:34 < _Lewellyn> 4/18/2005 Merchant charge: NARA SUSHI - SAN FRANCISCO, CA -49.40
06:34 < _Lewellyn> 4/17/2005 Merchant charge: NARA SUSHI - SAN FRANCISCO, CA -31.10
06:34 < _Lewellyn> 4/17/2005 Merchant charge: NARA SUSHI - SAN FRANCISCO, CA -13.90
06:34 < _Lewellyn> i need cheaper hobbies :(
06:36 < mnemoc> sushi is never cheap
06:36 < _Lewellyn> nope. :(
06:36 < mnemoc> and it's not a hobbie :)
06:36 < _Lewellyn> sure it is.
06:36 < _Lewellyn> :)
06:37 < _Lewellyn> sushi is far more expensive than gasoline :(
06:37 < mnemoc> do you play with your sushi?
06:37 * _Lewellyn does not tell
06:37 < mnemoc> :p
06:37 < _Lewellyn> those kinds of places are not very well advertised around here ;)
06:38 < mnemoc> hehe
06:38 < _Lewellyn> been looking for a nyataimori place lately. just because i've not heard of any in sf. and you'd think it'd be popular being a gay mecca and all
06:40 < mnemoc> and you have terminator :)
06:40 < mnemoc> very special city
06:40 < _Lewellyn> he's not from here.
06:40 < _Lewellyn> :)
06:42 < mnemoc> i'll go to sleep..
06:42 < mnemoc> i have to start and finish an essay about cicero's patriotism tomorrow morning :\
06:42 < mnemoc> cu
06:43 < _Lewellyn> i have to go too
06:43 < mnemoc> dream with your expensive sushi
06:43 < _Lewellyn> late already
06:43 < _Lewellyn> ya nyataimori can't be cheap :)
06:43 < mnemoc> :)
06:44 < mnemoc> i spend about 0.5 dollars in food per day
06:44 < _Lewellyn> as in a half dollar?
06:44 < _Lewellyn> i can't even get a banana for that
06:44 < mnemoc> yep
06:45 < _Lewellyn> ok.
06:45 * _Lewellyn poofs
06:45 < mnemoc> i don't eat much banana :p
06:45 < _Lewellyn> sleep well mnemoc
06:45 < _Lewellyn> heh
06:45 < keinek> in argentina with 3 dollars eat a lot.
06:45 < keinek> :P
06:45 < mnemoc> :)
06:45 < mnemoc> gn8 keinek, _Lewellyn
06:45 < _Lewellyn> $5 will get you a half a chicken :(
06:45 < keinek> gn8
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08:39 < valentin> moin
08:40 < valentin> mnemoc: that is cheap
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10:59 < rxr> re
11:06 < rxr> !> Created file outside allowed top-level dir: share
11:06 < rxr> == 06/15/05 03:22:44 =[1]=> Aborted building package ncurses.
11:14 < SerWou> hello guys
11:15 < rxr> hi SerWou
11:15 < SerWou> how are you rxr ?
11:15 < SerWou> still coding for Mac ? ;)
11:15 < rxr> in this second / days not ...
11:15 < rxr> in theory yes
11:16 < SerWou> god bless you
11:23 < rxr> why?
11:50 < SerWou> i'm not a big fan of MacOS
11:51 < minto> howdy all
12:08 < rxr> hi minto
12:09 < rxr> SerWou: me neither - but we need to have projects that generate more money than T2 ...
12:10 < minto> rxr: I must have spend to much time in the sun. How do I remove/uninstall emerged packages?
12:13 < rxr> mine -r pkg-name
12:13 < minto> thanks, I forgot about mine.
12:25 < valentin> re
12:26 < rxr> re
12:26 < valentin> hi rxr and all
12:26 < rxr> a wine dump from another person works including the english Natural Speaking 7 in my wine ...
12:26 < minto> hi valentin
12:26 < rxr> damn - how annoying this Wine and win program crap is ...
12:26 < rxr> at least I could dictate in english now ,-)
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12:32 < morfoh> hi
12:33 < minto> hi morfoh
12:34 < morfoh> hi minto
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12:40 < rxr> weeeeeeeeeeeeee
12:40 < rxr> with this .wine clone from this other person my german v7 even installs errorless and comes up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
12:41 < rxr> yeah - finally ... I knew it would be possible to get this bits running in wine !!!
12:41 < morfoh> hi rxr
12:52 < rxr> hi morfoh
12:55 < rxr> ok - naturally speaking does finally run in wine and it works amazingly well ...
12:55 < morfoh> :)
12:59 < rxr> guess I'll go and grab some bluetooth or so headset today ...
12:59 < rxr> but first showering and breakfast ...
13:02 < rxr> http://osviews.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=4670
13:02 < rxr> ^- this poor qnx bashing made it on http://osnews.com ...
13:03 < morfoh> most dietlibc support within t2 is unfortunately broken ... even curl
13:16 < rxr> guess the latest updates broke a few
13:17 < rxr> morfoh: do not waste time on it - I go over it today
13:18 < morfoh> rxr: I have to waste some time on it ... but I guess I'll integrate some patches today to enable diet support for some packages
13:18 < morfoh> rxr: but it would be nice if you could take a look over the "hard nuts" ;)
13:19 < morfoh> == 13:16:56 =[1]=> Building network/iproute2 [2.6.11-050330 2.2.0-alpha].
13:19 < morfoh> -> Preparing configuration to build this package with dietlibc (statically).
13:19 < morfoh> -> Setting __GLIBC__=3 to build the package!
13:19 < morfoh> -> Reading package configuration from package directory.
13:19 < morfoh> -> Preparing build in src.iproute2.1118841415.11686.0
13:19 < morfoh> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/1-iproute2.out
13:19 < morfoh> -> $root/var/adm/logs/1-iproute2.out -> 1-iproute2.log
13:19 < morfoh> == 06/15/05 13:17:15 =[1]=> Finished building package iproute2.
13:20 < morfoh> why __GLIBC__=3 ? if I build a static diet version ?
13:22 < rxr> morfoh: IIRC because either the package had some strange code
13:22 < rxr> #ifdef __GLIBC__ or some header somewhere
13:22 < rxr> I think it was in some strange header ...
13:23 < morfoh> ah ic
13:23 < rxr> morfoh: any of those setting this ot tweaking that in dietlibc builds are workaround for dump programs or headers ...
13:23 < rxr> s/ot/or/
13:24 < rxr> ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -deps=none device-mapper strace joep wgen
13:25 < rxr> ^- updates testing
13:25 < rxr> I also forwarded all the gnome updates to susan - and I know she already has done about 10 or so on her iBook pending commit ...
13:25 < rxr> so /me bakery and breakfast ...
13:28 < rxr> CSS 2.1 vor der Verabschiedung
13:28 < rxr> http://golem.de/0506/38649.html
13:32 < CIA-7> rene * r9684 /trunk/package/editors/joe/joe.desc: * updated joe (3.1 -> 3.3)
13:32 < CIA-7> rene * r9685 /trunk/package/base/device-mapper/device-mapper.desc: * updated device-mapper (1.01.02 -> 1.01.03)
13:33 < CIA-7> rene * r9686 /trunk/package/base/strace/strace.desc: * updated strace (4.5.11 -> 4.5.12)
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14:08 < rxr> http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6,907,315.WKU.&OS=PN/6,907,315&RS=PN/6,907,315
14:08 < rxr> United States Patent -- Method and system for displaying and editing of information
14:08 < rxr> what the heck ???
14:10 < valentin> by amazon.com ...
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14:24 < rxr> valentin: of course ...
14:25 < rxr> good that I wrote a text editor in the 80 to prove prior art
14:50 < rxr> morfoh: did 1-ncurses built for embedded-dietlibc ?
14:56 < mnemoc> moin
14:56 < rxr> moin mnemoc
14:56 < rxr> mnemoc: I have Naturally Speaking running in Wine now ...
14:56 < mnemoc> moin rxr
14:57 < mnemoc> Error logs from desktop-2.1.0-rc1-x86-pentium4-desktop:
14:57 < mnemoc> [5] mail/spamassassin [5] develop/subversion
14:57 < mnemoc> 671 builds total, 669 completed fine, 2 with errors.
14:57 < mnemoc> yuck
14:57 < mnemoc> File not found: download/mirror/s/subversion-1.2.0.tar.bz2 !!!
14:58 < rxr> ... !!!!!!!!!!
14:58 < valentin> moin mnemoc
14:59 < rxr> ignore spamassassin
14:59 < rxr> now with naturally speaking running in wine I'll have to play less with this windows-style crap in the next days ... and thus have way more time for T2 again ...
14:59 < valentin> do we have a script in misc/ yet that generates dependency .dot over a specified subset of packages ?
15:00 < valentin> otherwise i create one
15:00 < mnemoc> valentin: not afaik
15:00 < rxr> valentin: you are the next-gen dep graph man here ...
15:00 < rxr> no idea if we have a decent dep analyzer in tree ...
15:01 < mnemoc> valentin: don't forget to consider groups :)
15:02 < mnemoc> rxr: your top-dir checker detected 'nice' things: http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/regressions.html
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15:04 < mnemoc> hi veki
15:05 < morfoh> hi mnemoc
15:05 < veki> hi
15:05 < morfoh> hi veki
15:06 < rxr> welcome veki
15:06 < mnemoc> hi mofoh
15:06 < mnemoc> svn: REPORT of '/t2/!svn/bc/9683/trunk/package/archiver/alien': timed out waiting for server (http://svn.exactcode.de) <--- i hate this
15:06 < valentin> mnemoc: groups ?
15:06 < veki> hi
15:06 < rxr> valentin: like compiler libc and such
15:07 < rxr> ignore those for the first try ...
15:07 < veki> hi all, I was travelling a lot so I was not these days on line
15:07 < valentin> can i rely on the 'new' dep format ?
15:07 < valentin> i.e only one dep per line ?
15:07 < veki> But, i was thinking on you :-))
15:07 < morfoh> rxr: one moment please I'll check if ncurses was build with dietlibc
15:08 < mnemoc> valentin: yes, but grep and cut let you don't worry about how many deps per line you have
15:09 < valentin> kmymoney has no cache file
15:10 < mnemoc> http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/config/packages <--- this is my reference
15:10 < mnemoc> which created .cache files
15:13 < rxr> valentin: is that the only .cache missing ?
15:15 < valentin> for package/kde/*
15:15 < valentin> yes
15:18 < mnemoc> should i merge it to 2.1?
15:19 < rxr> XoVox Xcommunicator 3 Bluetooth Headset
15:19 < rxr> 249.00 EUR
15:19 < rxr> are they kidding ?
15:20 < rxr> for that price I get a over perfect stuidio microphone with metal chassi and whatever ..
15:20 < rxr> I'll definetly not spend that much money for a plastic toy with poor audio quality ...
15:20 < rxr> who makes up this rediculous prices ....
15:20 < morfoh> rxr: but I think I didn't reach the point where ncurses builds because of the gcc problem
15:24 < rxr> Plantronics CS60 ~100EUR ...
15:24 < rxr> ok - I stick with my existing studio microphones ...
15:26 < rxr> valentin: can I get the microphone on your side for speaking with my computer ?
15:28 < SerWou> hey guys, any ideas to clean and ajust head canon printers ?
15:28 < rxr> I would start with plain water IIRC
15:29 < SerWou> hum
15:30 < rxr> no =
15:30 < rxr> ? even
15:30 < SerWou> and to adjust them
15:30 < SerWou> there is an epson utility, but doesn't work for canon ;)
15:31 < rxr> valentin: time for a quick phone call ?
15:31 < rxr> utility as in software ?
15:31 < rxr> morfoh: Trac 0.8.3
15:31 < SerWou> yes, a small software
15:32 < rxr> I thought how to manually clean it - not how to start the procedure in the printer ...
15:32 < rxr> epsons have a button on the device to do so - like pressing this or thta buton for 3s ...
15:32 < rxr> maybe canon has, too ?
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15:33 < SerWou> no, espon software is oss
15:33 < SerWou> ha
15:33 < SerWou> let's me see
15:34 < morfoh> rxr: ncurses failed
15:35 < rxr> morfoh: I guessed so
15:35 < rxr> I'll fix all diet* target stuff up today ...
15:36 < morfoh> rxr: that would be a great help :)
15:36 < rxr> valentin: are you in AH or at home ?
15:36 < valentin> is there something like $(v#xxx) which eats up most parts ?
15:36 < valentin> in AH
15:36 < CIA-7> chris * r9687 /trunk/package/develop/trac/trac.desc: * updated trac (0.8.2 -> 0.8.3)
15:37 < rxr> valentin: maybe ## ?
15:37 < rxr> "or the longest matching pattern (the ``##'' case)"
15:37 < valentin> works
15:38 < valentin> thx
15:38 < rxr> valentin: can I come over later - maybe we could even meet on the way when you drive back home or so ?
15:38 < rxr> so I could collect our other (AKG?) microhphone ...
15:40 < rxr> qhttp://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20050615
15:40 < rxr> hehe
15:41 < valentin> rxr: ok...
15:47 < rxr> when will you drive home? just that I have some time frame ?
15:53 < valentin> maybe around 17:00
15:53 < rxr> ok
15:56 < CIA-7> valentin * r9688 /trunk/misc/GenDepGraph.sh: * addes a script to create .dot files of package dependency
16:00 < morfoh> http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/jeru/desktop/log/5-dmalloc.err <- rc1 optimized for athlon-xp
16:00 < mnemoc> yuck
16:01 < sepp_> hello
16:01 < morfoh> hi sepp
16:02 < sepp_> there is a profile.rej in /etc, some PS* colour setting
16:02 < sepp_> hi morfoh
16:07 < mnemoc> rxr: i thought rc1 was ready for release, and i'm uploading desktop p4 iso, but what do you think about that athlon-xp/dmalloc problem?
16:10 < rxr> dmalloc ?
16:10 < mnemoc> http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/jeru/desktop/log/5-dmalloc.err <- rc1 optimized for athlon-xp
16:10 < rxr> parallel ?
16:10 < rxr> ./dmallocc.cc:41:21: dmalloc.h: No such file or directory
16:10 < mnemoc> oh
16:10 < rxr> cat ./dmalloc.h.1 dmalloc.h.2 ./dmalloc.h.3 > dmalloc.h.t
16:11 < rxr> mv dmalloc.h.t dmalloc.h
16:11 < mnemoc> parallelism :\
16:11 < rxr> make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
16:11 < rxr> mnemoc: let me take a look
16:11 < rxr> maybe I can fix it properly
16:11 < rxr> (if the makefile is not too ugly hacked up ...=
16:11 < rxr> )
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16:16 < rxr> hm - strange
16:25 < mnemoc> ?
16:25 < rxr> the dmalloc make file does not look too bad ...
16:25 < morfoh> rxr: after I removed the pkg_bash.patch for dietlibc bash builds in embedded
16:26 < rxr> most probably rotted like hell - the bash patch ...
16:27 < CIA-7> rene * r9689 /trunk/package/develop/dmalloc/dmalloc.conf: * tried to work around dmalloc parallel build issue
16:27 < rxr> morfoh: just svn rm the bash patch then ...
16:28 < morfoh> rxr: ok ... so I've the green light from you to erase it ;)
16:28 < rxr> yes it is from the stone age ...
16:33 < CIA-7> chris * r9690 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/pkg_patch/pkg_bash.patch: * removed dietlibc patch for bash. It builds without it now.
16:33 < morfoh> rxr: coreutils is another candidate
16:37 < rxr> morfoh: can you test the dmalloc workaround ?
16:37 < rxr> l
16:37 < morfoh> rxr: yes ... I'll do
16:38 < CIA-7> sebastian * r9691 /trunk/package/x11/xorg/ (config.hlp config.in xorg.conf): * no unichrome option - use the other driver in all builds
16:41 < morfoh> rxr: ok ... dmalloc changed and scheduled for a rebuild
16:42 < morfoh> rxr: dmalloc builds now
16:42 < morfoh> rxr: thanks
16:42 < valentin> hm, the X of my iBook froze
16:42 < valentin> system is operating as normal, but the display is frozen
16:43 < rxr> though it might still be building by accident ... - this parallel is not always that predictable
16:43 < rxr> valentin: hm
16:44 < valentin> at least i can operate via ssh
16:45 < rxr> uhm - not too heatly ...
16:45 < valentin> i do not want to restart, because i am building
16:46 < valentin> is there any tool to reset the framebuffer ?
16:46 < valentin> ok, this would not help
16:46 < valentin> because all input resources are still aquired
16:47 < mnemoc> inti 6
16:47 < valentin> ahhrg
16:47 < valentin> now i cannot log in anymore ..
16:48 < valentin> ah shutdown
16:48 < valentin> :(
16:48 < valentin> i confused with runlevel 5
16:48 < valentin> 16:45 < valentin> i do not want to restart, because i am building
16:50 < mnemoc> :)
16:50 < mnemoc> ssh?
16:50 < mnemoc> init 3?
16:51 < valentin> mnemoc: i did _not_ want to reboot
16:51 < valentin> i thought 6==5
16:53 < mnemoc> :(
16:53 < valentin> btw: our build scripts need something like a continue mode ...
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16:54 < mnemoc> adding a 'trasaction log' based on hooking level it could be easy to 'resume'
16:54 < CIA-7> chris * r9692 /tags/2.1.0-rc1/package/develop/dmalloc/dmalloc.conf: * merged r9689 from trunk: tried to work around dmalloc parallel build issue
16:56 < morfoh> rxr: popt seems to fail on embedded too
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17:00 < valentin> rxr: i'll think i leave in some minutes
17:00 < valentin> i think i'll leave*
17:06 < valentin> damn, this shitty vodafone bills me 40 C for calling an "offline" number ???????
17:06 < valentin> i can't belive this
17:07 < valentin> i should sue them...
17:07 < valentin> imagine i need to reach someone and try 3 or 4 times
17:10 < rxr> re
17:10 < rxr> valentin: I doubt it is your company - it is the callee's company that takes the money
17:11 < rxr> e.g. O2 does recently - I explicitly called them to disable this "get an SMS for unreached calles" they took money for ..
17:11 < rxr> valentin: do we want to try to meet in the public transport?
17:11 < rxr> when should I leave here =
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17:17 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc1 TAGGED - official .iso creation in progress | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/
17:17 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Thu Jun 9 04:36:32 2005]
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17:18 < morfoh> mnemoc: trunk ?
17:18 < mnemoc> yes
17:19 < mnemoc> lua-5.1-work6.tar.gz
17:19 < morfoh> mom
17:19 < mnemoc> which is not on http://nexus.tfh-berlin.de/~t2/source/2.2
17:19 < mnemoc> the the one downloadable has a differente checksum
17:19 < CIA-7> chris * r9693 /branches/2.1/package/develop/dmalloc/dmalloc.conf: * merged r9689 from trunk: tried to work around dmalloc parallel build issue
17:19 < mnemoc> Cksum ERROR: download/mirror/l/lua-5.1-work6.tar.gz.cksum-err (2948742373)
17:19 < valentin> grummel, 40C is a full food in chile
17:19 < rxr_> guess that is why it is not on my mirros as well ...
17:20 < rxr_> valentin: ?
17:20 < valentin> i prepare to leave now
17:20 < mnemoc> valentin: :)
17:20 * rxr_ soon, too
17:20 < valentin> rxr_: 40 eurocent are about 50 dollarcent
17:20 < valentin> so, cu
17:20 < mnemoc> not a full food
17:20 < mnemoc> a very basic one
17:21 < valentin> :)
17:21 < valentin> cu
17:21 < morfoh> mnemoc: have checksum error too while downloading
17:21 < morfoh> cu
17:21 < mnemoc> cu valentin
17:22 < morfoh> mnemoc: after a fresh download I get 2948742373 as ck-sum
17:22 < mnemoc> morfoh: could you fetch gnupg?
17:22 < mnemoc> i wonder about the possible changes on gnupg
17:23 < mnemoc> and of course the posibility of security break
17:23 < morfoh> mnemoc: fetched!... what is your problem
17:23 < rxr_> cu later
17:23 < morfoh> cu rxr_
17:23 < mnemoc> err
17:23 < mnemoc> same cksum?
17:23 < mnemoc> i want it :)
17:24 < morfoh> mnemoc: same cksum with an other package ?
17:25 < mnemoc> no no
17:25 < mnemoc> same checksum that on .desc
17:27 < morfoh> mnemoc: yes
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17:32 < mnemoc> i want it, but i have to go to a class now
17:33 < morfoh> mnemoc: cu ... :)
17:33 < mnemoc> don't forget trac, please
17:33 < mnemoc> cu
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18:22 < azureus> Haööp
18:23 < azureus> Hallo
18:23 < morfoh> hi azureus
18:23 < azureus> Is here anyone speaking german?
18:24 < azureus> or is here anyone from the Team?
18:24 < morfoh> azureus: me ... but this channel is english only
18:24 < morfoh> ask me
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18:47 < morfoh> hi mtr
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19:28 < morfoh> rxr_: openssl builds on embedded uclibc target now !?! Did you changed some things ?
19:29 < mnemoc> rehi
19:29 < morfoh> hi mnemoc
19:30 < mnemoc> can you push your gnupg 1.4.1 somewhere i can fetch it?
19:31 < morfoh> rsync on your box ?
19:31 < mnemoc> .oO( do you have access? )o
19:32 < morfoh> I mean ... where I publish the ref reports
19:32 < mnemoc> :p
19:32 < mnemoc> i forgot that
19:32 < mnemoc> yes, sure
19:32 < mnemoc> please
19:32 < morfoh> say it again :p
19:33 < mnemoc> please
19:33 < morfoh> ok ... :)
19:33 < minto> One for me too?
19:33 < mnemoc> :)
19:33 < minto> BTW, hi
19:33 < morfoh> oh! oranje is in da house
19:33 < mnemoc> hi minto
19:34 < minto> mnomoc: I had a look at the java changes, nice work
19:34 < mnemoc> minto: you could grab it from my mirror after i inject the file :)
19:34 < mnemoc> minto: is it ok? usable?
19:34 < minto> Not sure yet. But I have one remark.
19:35 < morfoh> mnomoc ... sounds not bad :D
19:35 < minto> I don't like the check of pkg = ooo then switch to a lower jdk
19:35 < minto> .. version
19:35 < mnemoc> ooo doesn't build with java 1.5
19:35 < morfoh> mnemoc: your gnupg is on the way
19:35 < mnemoc> morfoh: thanks
19:35 < morfoh> mnemoc: but your line sucks :)
19:35 < mnemoc> :(
19:35 < minto> java has a -source option to swith to a lower version
19:36 < mnemoc> ?
19:36 < morfoh> mnemoc: 2 min.
19:36 < minto> But if the lower version is really necessary, I'd prefer this dependancy to show up in the in the ooo package not in the generic java stuff.
19:36 < morfoh> oh! ... I copied into the regression dir ... so you've to grab it from there
19:37 < mnemoc> i have to write a damn essay and i have a kapoera show on the next F* room!
19:38 < minto> This is the reason why I left a todo inside to determine the actual java version. Maybe (in the future) we can have ooo package demand a specific java version.
19:38 < minto> mnemoc: Go beat them up. ;-)
19:39 < mnemoc> :)
19:39 < morfoh> mnemoc: finished
19:39 < morfoh> I've to move away quickly ....
19:39 < morfoh> cu later
19:39 < minto> cu morfoh
19:39 < mnemoc> thanks morfoh
19:39 < morfoh> nah! np
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19:46 < minto> mnemoc: Any idea why the none the java's work in chroot. I think they all complain about in regard to an empty /proc. The latest Blackdown (soon to be committed) for instance says:
19:47 < minto> Can't detect initial thread stack location - no /proc/self/stat
19:47 < minto> When emerged it works fine.
19:47 < mnemoc> jsaw: can you compare your lua-5.1-work6 with the one on the site? Cksum ERROR: download/mirror/l/lua-5.1-work6.tar.gz.cksum-err (2948742373)
19:48 < mnemoc> you should not have an empty/proc inside chroot
19:48 < minto> I have one when I do debug.sh on a failed package
19:49 < mnemoc> debug.shis broken
19:49 < minto> What should I use then?
19:49 < mnemoc> rxr_ promised to fix it :)
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19:50 < minto> Maybe we kapoera him ;-)
19:50 < mnemoc> :)
19:50 < mnemoc> now i have a morron singing
19:51 < mnemoc> like eric clapton
19:52 < minto> Seem you have to kapoera almost everyone :-)
19:52 < mnemoc> minto: try www.geeks.cl/~amery/mount_on_debug.sh.diff
19:53 < mnemoc> someone seem to have decided we have to celebrate something today
19:53 < minto> is there cake?
19:54 < mnemoc> no idea
19:54 < mnemoc> but music
19:54 < mnemoc> first 'modern dance', then kapoera and eric clapton wannabe
19:55 < minto> If there is no cake there should not be a celebration. If there is, save me some.
19:56 < mnemoc> :)
20:04 < mnemoc> the thing seems to be finished
20:04 < minto> mnemoc: Now I get:
20:04 < minto> mount: mount point proc does not exist
20:05 < mnemoc> uhm
20:05 < minto> me uhm too
20:06 < mnemoc> can you add a 'pwd -P' beforethe mount?
20:08 < mnemoc> oh
20:08 < mnemoc> i found my bug
20:09 < mnemoc> add $xroot before every mount point please
20:10 < mnemoc> $xroot is the value used on chroot, you can copy&paste it on your current debug.sh
20:11 < mnemoc> and remember to umount by hand every mount point inside your sandbox
20:11 < mnemoc> before doing Cleanup
20:11 < mnemoc> i'm not sure if Cleanup will notice them
20:12 < minto> I am bound to forget that. Maybe I have to wait for the actual patch.
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20:13 < mnemoc> :(
20:13 < mnemoc> OT: do you like java?
20:14 < minto> what is OT
20:14 < mnemoc> Off Topic
20:14 < minto> ahh, Yes I do
20:14 < mnemoc> ooo, when built with java support, use bdb-java bindings
20:14 < mnemoc> but it use the old API
20:15 < minto> What old API
20:15 < mnemoc> i know the 'new'
20:15 < mnemoc> http://www.sleepycat.com/docs/ref/upgrade.4.3/java.html
20:15 < mnemoc> but i don't know java to port xmlhelp to the new one
20:16 < mnemoc> that's why our ooo is always built java-less
20:17 < mnemoc> r9114 disabled the code to enable java support
20:18 < minto> If it is not to much work I could have a look, but I am still not sure that I understand the problem.
20:18 < mnemoc> xmlhelp fail to build, and that makes ooo abort
20:19 < minto> ah, xmlhelp is part of ooo then
20:19 < mnemoc> it fails to build because the classes it wnat to use doesn't exist on bdb43
20:19 < mnemoc> yes
20:19 < minto> now I get it. xmlhelp uses the old bdb api and we want to patch it to the new api?
20:20 < mnemoc> :D
20:20 < mnemoc> we need to, if we want to use ooo with java
20:20 < minto> Do I need to build the full ooo if messing around with xmlhelp
20:21 < mnemoc> if crashes 'just' after one hour
20:21 < mnemoc> it*
20:21 < mnemoc> http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/diff/ooo.diff
20:21 < mnemoc> ^--- that disables odk, which is terribly broken
20:21 < mnemoc> and change configure to search fo bdb43
20:21 < mnemoc> novell people disable odk by default
20:22 < minto> odk = openoffice developement kit ???
20:22 < mnemoc> yes
20:22 < minto> Are we sure no one at ooo is working on this?
20:23 < mnemoc> bdb43 thing? they don't care. they 'require' 4.2 or older
20:23 < minto> Ack, maybe they are interested once we have a patch
20:23 < mnemoc> tipical
20:24 < mnemoc> they don't even care that thier java code don't build with jikes or java 1.5 due to conflicts in Classes names
20:25 < mnemoc> maybe you get more kind answeres than i on #openoffice.org
20:25 < minto> That something for later. first the xmlhelp part.
20:25 < minto> Sounds like fun, I will try it. However, all builds I have do so far do not require any gui stuff.
20:26 < mnemoc> :)
20:26 < minto> I hope I do no have to do a full desktop build first.
20:26 < mnemoc> nah
20:27 < minto> Let get rolling...
20:27 < minto> first downloading ooo
20:27 < mnemoc> remember to rever 9114 locally to reenable java support :)
20:28 < minto> How do I do that?
20:28 < minto> I wish my dual opteron was set up properly
20:28 < mnemoc> svn merge -r 9114:9113 .
20:29 < mnemoc> .oO
20:29 < minto> My other server, the one I work on the most, is way to slow
20:29 < minto> for building that is.
20:30 < mnemoc> java-less ooo takes 7:20h here
20:32 < minto> Maybe someone is willing to help me set it up properly. I am even willing to donate cpu cycles for t2 building.
20:33 < mnemoc> what do you mean by "set it up properly"
20:34 < minto> Install T2 and have it remove accessible.
20:34 < minto> s/remove/remote
20:35 < mnemoc> and what's the problem?
20:36 < minto> Me too lazy and afraid it won't be secure enough.
20:37 < rxr_> re
20:37 < mnemoc> hi rxr_
20:38 -!- You're now known as rxr
20:38 < mnemoc> it would be nice to have a minimal-amd64 iso
20:39 < rxr> ack
20:39 < mnemoc> it would be nice to have the hardware to do the build :)
20:41 < rxr> mnemoc: ask amd chile ,-)
20:41 < minto> I have it
20:41 < mnemoc> minto: send it, i pay the shipping :)
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20:42 < morfoh> re hi
20:42 < minto> You must be kidding
20:42 < mnemoc> rxr: www.geeks.cl/~amery/mount_on_debug.sh.diff <-- is this what we want?
20:42 < minto> Someone could come over, I pay travel.
20:42 < mnemoc> minto: yes
20:42 < minto> Sorry mnemoc you are to far away.
20:43 < mnemoc> :(
20:43 < minto> What would two-way chile - amsterdam cost?
20:43 < morfoh> minto: if you don't want you can pay me a chile visit ;)
20:44 < minto> I want
20:44 < morfoh> .oO( I'd like to get to know my companhero there )o
20:45 < mnemoc> 18h santiago amsterdam
20:46 < mnemoc> 2,160.53 dollars
20:46 < morfoh> damn ...
20:47 < mnemoc> let see berlin
20:47 < minto> 1883 Euros exlucing taxes, flying KLM
20:47 < morfoh> mnemoc: where do you check the flights ?
20:47 < mnemoc> www.lan.com
20:47 < morfoh> minto: KLM is not bad ... I took them one time to cameroon
20:47 < mnemoc> mine includes taxes :)
20:48 < mnemoc> 1,773.13 dollars to berlin
20:48 < mnemoc> both with one stop on madrid
20:48 < morfoh> I try to avoid Air France because I had nearly a crash landing with tem
20:49 < minto> morfoh: KLM is now owned by Air France
20:49 < morfoh> minto: sh*t ... :)
20:49 < minto> :-(
20:49 < mnemoc> minto: www.geeks.cl/~amery/mount_on_debug.sh.diff this one should work
20:50 < mnemoc> wait
20:50 < mnemoc> now yes
20:51 < _Lewellyn> does a 64-bit build need to built on a 64-bit machine?
20:51 < _Lewellyn> or just tested on one?
20:51 < morfoh> mnemoc: with the expensive german Lufthansa I'd pay 1156,28 EUR incl. taxes
20:51 < minto> That's a bargain
20:52 < morfoh> Iberia is even cheaper
20:52 < morfoh> between 820-900 Eur
20:52 < morfoh> oh! no ... the last one are without taxes
20:52 < mnemoc> i price i should is on a iberia plain
20:52 < minto> I would fly Iberia I once flew with them is a leaking plane, or was it spantax?
20:52 < mnemoc> i showed
20:53 < mnemoc> weird
20:53 < minto> s/would/wouldn't
20:53 < _Lewellyn> bah. i'm looking at US$400-1600 to fly (coach) from california <-> wisconsin next month :(
20:53 < mnemoc> o_O
20:53 < morfoh> mnemoc: so it would cost the allmost the same flying to .cm and .cl
20:54 < morfoh> Hi _Lewellyn
20:54 < mnemoc> .oO
20:54 < mnemoc> hi _Lewellyn
20:54 < minto> what is .cm
20:54 < morfoh> cameroon
20:54 < minto> hi _Lewellyn
20:54 < minto> ah
20:55 < _Ragnar_> _Lewellyn: www.bestfares.com ?
20:55 < minto> Why would one go to camaroon. Have you ani amigos there?
20:55 < morfoh> minto: yes ... :)
20:56 < morfoh> minto: one is even from .nl ;)
20:56 < mnemoc> morfoh 'exports' people from camaroon to germany
20:56 < minto> :-)
20:56 < _Lewellyn> _Ragnar_: $400 is to fly a deep discount airline to a city 4 hours away :(
20:57 < morfoh> minto: your brother from .nl is living there for some 20 years now i think
20:57 * _Lewellyn wonders if one can install the vmware tools onto the livecd...
20:57 * _Lewellyn tries
20:57 < morfoh> mnemoc: who am I export ? ... ;)
20:58 < morfoh> arrrgggg ... my english stinks :)
20:58 < _Ragnar_> weird O_O
20:58 < _Lewellyn> morfoh: it's good enough
20:58 * _Ragnar_ seen flights from LA to NY for 250$
20:58 < _Lewellyn> hell, it's better than many americans can muster :)
20:58 < morfoh> _Lewellyn: oh thanks ...
20:59 < morfoh> _Lewellyn: :D
20:59 < _Lewellyn> _Ragnar_: i think there's some special event in the city i'm flying into that weekend
20:59 < _Ragnar_> oh okay
20:59 < _Lewellyn> really annoying :(
20:59 < _Ragnar_> try orbitz and others
20:59 < _Lewellyn> they claim $800 or so
21:00 < _Ragnar_> then: drive;p
21:00 < _Lewellyn> i'm going to try to find a travel agent who can get me a fare for < $300
21:00 < _Lewellyn> heh. if i left thurs night, i might be there by the end of the reunion sat.
21:01 < _Lewellyn> and that's only if my body could hold up to the shape my motorcycle is in
21:03 < _Ragnar_> aww ok
21:03 < _Ragnar_> you're in calif?
21:03 < _Lewellyn> yes. and no, we didn't make our jump into being an island last night :(
21:04 < morfoh> _Lewellyn: what happened last night ?
21:04 < mnemoc> rxr: did you got my minimal and jeru's desktop?
21:05 < mnemoc> rxr: i'll finish uploading desktop-p4 in two hours
21:05 < morfoh> hmmm ... is this rxr around even ???
21:05 < mnemoc> rxr: into the same location
21:05 * _Ragnar_ is in calif.
21:05 < _Lewellyn> morfoh: 7.0 earthquake 90 mi offshore
21:05 < rxr> yes morfoh /me back here
21:05 < rxr> I got your minimal I think ...
21:05 < rxr> jsaw: your desktop is ready ?
21:06 < mnemoc> jsaw: :)
21:06 < morfoh> rxr: do you speak with me ?
21:06 < _Lewellyn> _Ragnar_: ah yes. way down south :)
21:06 < minto> Uhmm, Ragnar is Calif, is this like the Kahlief from Bagdad? :-)
21:06 < mnemoc> hehe
21:06 < _Lewellyn> _Ragnar_: good surfing down in san diego?
21:07 < _Ragnar_> ;) nice enough, tho I don't do it;)
21:07 < _Lewellyn> :)
21:07 < _Ragnar_> where are you?:)
21:07 < _Lewellyn> btw, the livecd doesn't like to be suspended/restored in vmware :(
21:07 < _Lewellyn> san francisco
21:08 < _Ragnar_> ah kewl :)
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21:09 < rxr> naturally speaking is threaded - and eats 9% CPU when idle on my Athlon XP 2500+ - during dictation it eats 20-36 % of the CPU ,-)
21:09 < morfoh> rxr: unfortunately my box I'm building the athlon-xp desktop on freezed again yesterday ... so I'm a bit late
21:10 < CIA-7> msluis * r9694 /trunk/package/java/blackdown-jre/ (blackdown-jre.desc extract-x86-64.diff extract-x86.diff): * updated blackdown-jre (1.4.2-01 -> 1.4.2-02)
21:10 < CIA-7> msluis * r9695 /trunk/package/java/blackdown-jdk/ (blackdown-jdk.desc extract-x86-64.diff extract-x86.diff): * updated blackdown-jdk ( 1.4.2-01 -> 1.4.2-02 )
21:11 < morfoh> rxr: btw, openssl was build on uclibc target ...
21:11 < morfoh> rxr: embedded
21:11 < _Ragnar_> yes, what's the problem there?
21:11 * _Ragnar_ has openssl running on uclibc fine
21:12 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: It didn't build here before
21:13 < rxr> it did not built cross ...
21:13 < rxr> morfoh: did you modify it? or did it built out of the box ?
21:13 < morfoh> I mean ... it was build in stage 1 out of the box
21:14 < rxr> oh
21:15 < morfoh> rxr: but it would be nice if you could take a look on it ;)
21:15 < rxr> define it ,-)
21:15 < rxr> right now I look at ncurses ...
21:17 < morfoh> rxr: okok ... look at ncurses ... I'll build my target again, and testing it ;)
21:17 < rxr> what did you mean at 21:15 < morfoh> rxr: but it would be nice if you could take a look on it ;)
21:17 < rxr> ?
21:18 < morfoh> I mean ... just to take a look if it was build well ;) Till now I wasn't able to test it
21:19 < morfoh> rxr: but as I said I'll rebuild my target right now ... and will test that little beast afterwards
21:20 < morfoh> rxr: so I don't waste your time while you're fixing dietlibc support ;)
21:21 < valentin> re
21:21 < _Lewellyn> https://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?threadID=18137&tstart=0
21:21 < _Lewellyn> that question is just... amazing...
21:21 < valentin> feels good to have a partially rebuild kde
21:22 < morfoh> rxr: I will use uclibc for now because the CF is big enough for a 5-6MB rootfs ;)
21:23 < rxr> _Lewellyn: of course the virtual machine is alraey confused enought by itself due to it's virtual nature ....
21:24 < morfoh> rxr: I guess the update to openssl 0.9.7g fixed some issues
21:24 < _Lewellyn> true.
21:24 < _Lewellyn> but trying to use vmware to get around spyware? o_O
21:24 < rxr> _Lewellyn: I was just joking either
21:25 < _Lewellyn> oh
21:25 < _Lewellyn> i find vmware is plenty confused
21:25 < rxr> yes - of course
21:26 < _Lewellyn> for the moment, i've given up on running the livecd in it
21:26 < rxr> ouh - why ?
21:29 < _Lewellyn> vmware sucks :(
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21:30 < _Lewellyn> if i can boot the livecd again, i'll take a screenshot
21:30 < _Lewellyn> plus, i think the vmware tools need to be installed. which seems to be non-trivial
21:31 < _Lewellyn> i really wish i could suspend/resume the livecd vm
21:35 < valentin> minto: you pay travel ?
21:36 < minto> Yepp, but I do want some work to be done as well.
21:36 < minto> Nothing complicated, I think
21:37 < _Lewellyn> minto: elaborate :)
21:37 < minto> _Lewellyn: Sorry you're to far away.
21:37 < _Lewellyn> damn :)
21:37 < minto> I have a dual opteron to be set up properly
21:38 < rxr> hm - hm - hm - ...
21:38 < rxr> minto: where are you located ?
21:38 < minto> And something else I'd rather not eloborate. But it involves a special target.
21:38 < minto> Close to amsterdam
21:38 * _Lewellyn ships a crossbow to minto :)
21:38 < valentin> minto: i will be in the netherlands next week.
21:38 < rxr> valentin and I may be in ahnheim next week
21:38 < rxr> or however it is spelled ... ,-)
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21:38 < minto> arnhem
21:39 < rxr> ouhg - sorry ...
21:39 < minto> What are you guys doing there?
21:39 < _Lewellyn> anaheim is near _Ragnar_ :)
21:39 < valentin> visiting an old friend who has his diploma concert
21:39 < minto> How are you guys traveling?
21:39 < valentin> guess by train
21:40 < rxr> ouhm - damn
21:40 < minto> damn what?
21:40 < rxr> damn I think I have not properly ededit:
21:40 < rxr> http://www.falk-huebner.de/termine.html
21:41 < _Lewellyn> rxr: what's the status of audio on the livecd?
21:42 < minto> rxr: It says amsterdam last week?
21:42 < valentin> _Lewellyn: besides this alsa bug it is working :p
21:42 < _Lewellyn> valentin: i'm still not clear as to what the bug is :(
21:43 < _Lewellyn> because i know that the sound chip i'm using works with kernel version 2.6.11.11
21:43 < _Lewellyn> so i doubt it's a kernel issue, unless the kernel is misconfigured or has custom patches (ew)
21:44 < _Lewellyn> beyond that, i don't really know how alsa works
21:44 * _Lewellyn has bad luck with sound on linux
21:45 < mnemoc> same do i
21:45 < morfoh> wasn't there sth. for cleaning up old files from download ?
21:46 < mnemoc> ./scripts/Cleanup -download
21:47 < morfoh> mnemoc: thx ... allready found ... dumb questin that was ;)
21:47 < mnemoc> :)
21:47 < morfoh> my home is full ;)
21:47 < morfoh> let's see how much space I wasted
21:49 < morfoh> pff ... 4.2GB just for outdated tar files ...
21:51 < morfoh> rxr: if all goes well with that unstable machine at work ... I can provide rc1 athlon-xp desktop iso's tomorrow ;)
21:52 < mnemoc> morfoh: how pmmx's went?
21:52 < morfoh> mnemoc: you mean installing or building ?
21:52 < morfoh> it was build fine
21:53 < morfoh> but I had no time for testing it somewhere
21:53 < mnemoc> i haven't installed my desktop build neither
21:53 < _Lewellyn> morfoh: it booted here :/
21:53 < _Lewellyn> nowehere to install onto though
21:54 < morfoh> _Lewellyn: and why it's :/ ?
21:55 < morfoh> go ahead ... and kill your girlfrinds pc ;)
22:04 < rxr> re
22:11 < rxr> minto: does it make sense to come over to you if I would be in the netherlands next week ?
22:11 < minto> How long will you be over?
22:12 < rxr> well - one day - but I just ask if "you want it extended ,-)"
22:12 < mnemoc> .oO( he doesn't want to pay the beers )o
22:12 < minto> mnemoc: who is he? rxr :-)
22:13 < minto> rxr: I think one day might not be enough when you go to that concert as well.
22:13 < minto> Amsterdam - Arnhem by train is 1 hour +
22:13 < mnemoc> does susan know amsterdam? :)
22:14 < rxr> minto: well - we arrive - meet Falk - in the evenint there is the concert and then - after a night in Bochum we would travel back
22:14 < mnemoc> :D
22:14 < minto> I am confused. a night in Bochum?
22:14 < rxr> minto: nah - if you want /me / us whowever at your site I / we would of course spend more than a day ...
22:14 < rxr> minto: we only want to join falks concert ....
22:15 < rxr> morfoh: have you fixed diet perl ?
22:15 < rxr> !> Apply patch /usr/src/t2-trunk/package/base/dietlibc/pkg_ ..
22:15 < rxr> !> patching file ext/Errno/Errno_pm.PL
22:15 < rxr> !> Hunk #1 FAILED at 109.
22:15 < CIA-7> rene * r9696 /trunk/target/embedded/config.in:
22:15 < CIA-7> * fixed the embedded target to set the STATIC config option when
22:15 < CIA-7> dietlibc is in use - fixes ncurses
22:17 < mnemoc> i have to go, cu
22:17 < rxr> cu mnemoc
22:17 < morfoh> mnemoc: cu
22:17 < mnemoc> .oO( where in heck does rsync create it's tempdir! )o
22:17 < mnemoc> bye
22:17 < CIA-7> rene * r9697 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/parse-config-9:
22:17 < CIA-7> * partial dietlibc/parse-config-9 overhault - might have effected
22:17 < CIA-7> dietlibc/ncurses build - not yet tested in a full build - but looks
22:17 < CIA-7> reasonable
22:19 < rxr> valentin: do you think I should add falks diploma concert to the "termine.html" ?
22:19 < minto> rxr: When exactly is that concert?
22:20 < rxr> I got no request to add it there ...
22:20 < rxr> 23.6.2005 Diplomkonzert an der Hochschule der K?nste Arnhem (NL)
22:20 < rxr> I guess around 18.oo or so ...
22:20 < valentin> rxr: dunno - maybe ask falk ?
22:21 < valentin> rxr: arount 19.oo
22:21 < rxr> I added it ...
22:22 < rxr> the only build error in 1-perl dietlibc cross is now:
22:22 < rxr> cannot find -lnsl
22:22 < rxr> ...
22:23 < minto> rxr: So the concert will be at the end of the day? How long does is last?
22:23 < rxr> minto: I have no too exact idea ...
22:24 < rxr> why do you ask ?
22:24 < morfoh> rxr: should I start an dietlibc embedded build ?
22:24 < rxr> well - I right now hack 1-perl ...
22:24 < morfoh> rxr: ah ok :)
22:25 < rxr> ouhm - my godness ...
22:25 < rxr> sv.c: undefined reference to `gcvt'
22:25 < rxr> gcvt - convert a floating-point number to a string
22:25 < rxr> ok - no perl for now ,-)
22:25 < morfoh> haha ... I don't need perl on embedded so far ... so no problem ;)
22:26 < rxr> you fixed iptables for dietlibc ?
22:26 < rxr> btw. I would definetly base on uclibc for bigger products
22:27 < rxr> I would use dietlibc-only only for very very very small scale stuff
22:27 < morfoh> rxr: I tried to at work but it seems that they changed a lot from 1.2.9 -> 1.3.1
22:27 < rxr> too much of a "whole system based on it" is in flux and not fully implemented
22:27 < rxr> morfoh: didn't you post that it built ?
22:28 < morfoh> rxr: no ... did I ?
22:28 < valentin> damn i get a million duplicate file warnings for kde*
22:30 < rxr> thought so
22:30 < rxr> morfoh: ok - could you start a dietlibc build on head? to see if I caused regresions with my dietlibc global changes ?
22:30 < rxr> while I contineu to crawl forward ... ?
22:30 < morfoh> rxr: roger that :)
22:36 < _Lewellyn> morfoh: :/ because it booted, but i can't do any more.
22:36 < _Lewellyn> and my gf has a mac ;)
22:36 < morfoh> _Lewellyn: I knew it before that your gf had a mac :)
22:37 < _Lewellyn> i know :)
22:37 * _Lewellyn wonders why she's not online...
22:37 < morfoh> because any gf in the US has one
22:38 < morfoh> rxr: do we have PPC live cd's around ?
22:38 < _Lewellyn> no. too many dudes got dells here :(
22:38 < minto> rxr: Let me get back on the subject later. I have to do some thinking and sleeping.
22:38 < minto> rxr: not necessarily that order.
22:38 < _Lewellyn> not enough girls got their computer to eat their homework :)
22:39 < minto> I am gonna hit the sheets, gn8 all.
22:39 < morfoh> cu minto sssssleeeeep well
22:40 < valentin> gn8 minto
22:43 < _Lewellyn> sleep well minto
22:46 < rxr> n8 minto
22:47 < CIA-7> chris * r9698 /trunk/package/zope/epoz/ (. epoz.desc): * added epoz package (2.0.0)
22:55 < rxr> morfoh: when did you build gmp in embeeded and it succeed? uclibc - I guess ... no dietlibc, right ?
22:56 < morfoh> rxr: yes ... it was on uclibc
22:56 < CIA-7> rene * r9699 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/pkg_patch/pkg_perl.patch: * removed dietlibc perl patch - does not apply and looks like crap
22:57 < CIA-7> rene * r9700 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/parse-config-9:
22:57 < CIA-7> * fixed dietlibc parse-config to only overwrite the arch_build in stage
22:57 < CIA-7> 2 and up as it must be
22:58 < rxr> I should write the dietlibc suport from scratch - it is full of hacks ...
22:58 < morfoh> rxr: ohoh!
22:59 < rxr> well - not as bas as commercial software - but not our usual quality level ...
22:59 < sepp> huhu
22:59 < morfoh> hi sepp :)
22:59 < rxr> hey sepp!
22:59 < sepp> hello litte butterfly, rxr
22:59 < rxr> butter - fly ??
23:00 < morfoh> rxr: sepp is so lovely ;)
23:00 < sepp> there is a blue butterfly called morfo, morpho ...
23:02 < morfoh> sepp: morfoh is a name used by a tribe called ngwen (north west cameroon) to say "son of the king" ;)
23:03 < morfoh> sepp: so I'm no bug :)
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23:04 < rxr> morfoh: svn up in your dietlibc test bed please
23:04 < morfoh> I'm on 7900
23:04 < morfoh> 9700
23:05 < morfoh> == 23:04:32 =[0]=> Building base/gcc [3.4.3 2.2.0-alpha]
23:06 < rxr> var_remove_regex does utilize awk ? my god ...
23:09 < sepp> morfoh: no i did not mean bug, just a nice blue butterfly
23:09 < morfoh> sepp: I know ... :)
23:10 < _Lewellyn> i'm the bug ;)
23:11 < CIA-7> sebastian * r9701 /trunk/package/emulators/e-uae/ (. e-uae.desc): * added e-uae (0.8.27)
23:14 < rxr> == 06/15/05 23:11:55 =[1]=> Finished building package gmp.
23:14 < rxr> == 06/15/05 23:12:36 =[1]=> Finished building package zlib.
23:14 < rxr> == 06/15/05 23:12:49 =[1]=> Aborted building package bash.
23:14 < CIA-7> rene * r9702 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/parse-config-9:
23:14 < CIA-7> * removed statement without effect and made sure --disble-shared and
23:14 < CIA-7> friends are really injected in dietlibc/parse-config-9
23:15 < rxr> morfoh: didn't you say that you removed the bash dietlibc patch ?
23:15 < rxr> !> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file locale. ..
23:15 < morfoh> oh! what I've done ? or not done!
23:16 < sepp> hmm susped to mem is nice, but if it would resume it would be much more usefull
23:17 < morfoh> rxr: btw, I removed the thing ... I'm quite sure
23:17 < morfoh> r9690
23:32 < rxr> maybe I'm not at head ...
23:32 < morfoh> rxr: maybe :)
23:33 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/wine-ns7.png
23:34 < morfoh> hehe ... :)
23:38 < rxr> == 06/15/05 23:36:18 =[1]=> Finished building package bash.
23:38 < rxr> == 23:36:20 =[1]=> Building base/coreutils [5.2.1 2.2.0-alpha].
23:38 < rxr> !> Hunk #1 FAILED at 30.
23:38 < rxr> many many rotted patches - my oh my
23:38 < morfoh> == 23:36:08 =[1]=> Building base/ncurses [5.4 2.2.0-alpha].
23:38 < morfoh> == 06/15/05 23:37:52 =[1]=> Finished building package ncurses.
23:39 < morfoh> rxr: yes ... this dietlibc patch stuff is very rotted atm.
23:40 < rxr> yeah - mostly because a dietlibc-only build makes so less sense at the moment ...
23:40 < rxr> wone would need a multi platform shared library support for that in wine ...
23:44 < morfoh> but gmp looks good so far on diet embedded
23:44 < morfoh> == 06/15/05 23:43:44 =[1]=> Finished building package gmp.
23:44 < morfoh> == 06/15/05 23:43:54 =[1]=> Finished building package zlib.
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23:46 < rxr> coreutils will fail
23:47 < CIA-7> rene * r9703 /trunk/target/embedded/config.in: * only build ther perl for uclibc in the embedded target
23:50 < morfoh> coreutils patch for dietlibc stinks too. I removed for now ... to see what will happen
23:50 < rxr> breaks
23:50 < rxr> but I have the update ready
23:50 < morfoh> :)
23:52 < CIA-7> rene * r9704 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/pkg_patch/pkg_coreutils.patch: * updated dietlibc coreutils patch
23:52 < morfoh> thx :)
23:52 < rxr> build still running though
23:53 < rxr> == 06/15/05 23:52:14 =[1]=> Finished building package coreutils.
23:53 < rxr> == 06/15/05 23:52:24 =[1]=> Finished building package minised.
23:53 < rxr> == 06/15/05 23:52:32 =[1]=> Finished building package ugrep.
23:54 < morfoh> nice :)
23:54 < rxr> !> Found shared files with other packages:
23:54 < rxr> !> usr/lib/charset.alias: coreutils tar
23:54 < rxr> == 06/15/05 23:53:20 =[1]=> Aborted building package tar.
23:55 < morfoh> rxr: btw, can we replace the *utils using i.e. embutils or busybox ?
23:56 < valentin> gn8 all
23:56 < morfoh> gn8 valentin ... sleep well ;)
23:57 < valentin> thx morfoh son of butterfly
23:57 < morfoh> valentin: ... you should better hide
23:58 < rxr> busybox is such an ugly cruft ...
23:58 < rxr> I like embutils ... ,-)
23:58 < morfoh> rxr: mee too :)
23:58 < morfoh> == 06/15/05 23:57:02 =[1]=> Finished building package gawk.
23:58 < rxr> but they are very minimal - no idea if you got in touch with them
23:58 < morfoh> == 06/15/05 23:57:12 =[1]=> Finished build== 06/15/05 23:57:12 =[1]=> Finished building package bzip2.
23:58 < morfoh> ing package bzip2.
23:59 < morfoh> == 06/15/05 23:57:29 =[1]=> Finished building package less.
23:59 < morfoh> == 06/15/05 23:57:38 =[1]=> Finished building package elvis-tiny.
23:59 < morfoh> == 06/15/05 23:57:43 =[1]=> Aborted building package mmv.
23:59 < rxr> is that dietlibc ?
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