--- Log opened Thu May 19 00:00:51 2005
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00:30 < keinek> hi
00:53 -!- sparc-kly[U5] [~mubex@66-50-123-218.prtc.net] has joined #t2
00:53 < sparc-kly[U5]> hi
00:57 < keinek> hi sparc-kly
01:06 < rxr> so
01:06 < rxr> rehi
01:07 < rxr> jeru was here til now ...
01:15 < rxr> so /me night lunch ...
01:16 < sparc-kly[U5]> keinek i install T2 beta 3 . and now im building beta 4 desktop :D
01:35 < keinek> bien
01:35 < keinek> good sparc-kly[U5]
01:36 < sparc-kly[U5]> :D
01:57 < rxr> LLVM 1.5
01:58 < rxr>
01:58 < rxr> BitBake 1.2.1
02:18 < rxr> http://llvm.cs.uiuc.edu/
02:42 < rxr> damnit - it got late again ..
02:42 < valentin> yep
02:43 < rxr> our certified hardware list starts to get impressive - thanks to jeru
02:44 < _Lewellyn> rxr: i'd like to help grow it :)
02:45 < rxr> I can grab the next revision in a second ,-)(
02:45 < rxr> ouhm - these days my fingers have it with that ( ....
02:46 < rxr> .o(I cant await preparing the PowerPC and SPARC the later on ,-)
02:46 < rxr> 547405941 96% 15.45MB/s 0:00:01
02:48 < rxr> Cpu(s): 15.1% user, 17.4% system, 0.0% nice, 0.0% idle, 67.4% IO-wait
02:49 < rxr> Cpu(s): 14.1% user, 15.3% system, 0.0% nice, 0.0% idle, 70.6% IO-wait
02:49 < rxr> ouhm ...
02:52 < rxr> Mem: 124744 122608 2136 0 3056 67096
02:53 < rxr> seems the server could use more ram to cache better ...
03:07 < rxr> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/ftp/t2/unstable/
03:08 < rxr> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/ftp/t2/unstable/t2-live-2.2.0-alpha-r15.iso
03:08 < rxr> m5sum tripple checked. ..
03:08 < rxr> damn departing IBM disk ...
03:18 < rxr> n8 all
03:18 < _Lewellyn> sleep well! :)
03:18 < valentin> gn8 rxr
03:19 < rxr> _Lewellyn: if possible, report about @live to rene@exactcode.de would be welcome
03:19 < rxr> cu valentin
03:19 < rxr> I quick boot the r15 again - just to be sure
03:19 < _Lewellyn> if i finish work early enough, i will :)
03:19 < rxr> then I'm in bed immediatly ...
03:19 < rxr> ,-)
03:19 < rxr> n8 all
03:39 < valentin> so, think it is time for me too
03:40 < valentin> it is getting light at the horizon
03:40 < valentin> so i have to hide in my bed
03:41 < _Lewellyn> good luck. at least the sun warms you for free :)
03:42 < valentin> will be some hours until the sun comes up
03:43 * sparc-kly[U5] now download live r15 :D
03:43 < sparc-kly[U5]> 145kb/s yeahh
03:44 < valentin> sparc-kly[U5]: is r15 fully there already ?
03:45 < valentin> ah - yes
03:45 < valentin> overread that line above
03:45 < valentin> good luck testing
03:46 < sparc-kly[U5]> i planned testing tomorow in Dell optiplex Gx280
03:47 < sparc-kly[U5]> i go to my home now . Bye
03:47 < valentin> cu
03:48 < valentin> _Lewellyn: i will leave now, too. enjoy the silence (maybe mnemoc shows up later) :)
03:55 < _Lewellyn> sleep well. valentin
03:55 < _Lewellyn> i will be leaving work soon too, i think.
03:58 < mnemoc> re
03:58 < _Lewellyn> heh. re
04:04 < keinek> anybody say that try install cinelerra?
04:27 < sparc-kly> keinek t2-es
04:30 < mnemoc> keinek: iirc there is a package for cinelerra
04:31 < sparc-kly> hi mnemoc
04:31 < mnemoc> hi sparc-kly
04:32 < sparc-kly> how much take build desktop in AMD XP 2000 + ?
04:32 < sparc-kly> 4 days>?
04:33 < mnemoc> nah
04:33 < mnemoc> 2
04:34 < sparc-kly> dumb question #2 ?
04:35 < sparc-kly> t2 build same package mas de una ves ?
04:35 < mnemoc> some packages need to be built more than once, yes
04:35 < mnemoc> to build the toolchain
04:35 < sparc-kly> ahhh ok
04:35 < mnemoc> look at [P] field on .desc files
04:36 < mnemoc> $pkg is built once per stage where it is enabled
04:59 * _Lewellyn wanders off
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05:22 * sparc-kly is away: Sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
05:23 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: eso se considera de muy mala educaacion
05:36 < keinek> mnemoc, the away message ?
05:38 < mnemoc> yes
05:50 < mnemoc> tonight i will try to sleep.... cu
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11:46 < rxr> re
11:54 < rxr> Trackerless BitTorrent Beta Posted
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12:28 < sepp> huhu :)
12:28 < rxr> hi sepp and tilix
12:28 < tilix> hi rxr and sepp
12:29 < tilix> rxr: i rsync-ed something from your box, should be r15, what is the md5 sum?
12:29 < sepp> rxr: xdetect should link /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so.version to libglx.so
12:29 < rxr> 5dfcbde4a9b779998b02f5565f245d3c t2-live-2.2.0-alpha-r15.iso
12:29 < rxr> IIRC my home box should have r15 right now
12:30 < tilix> same
12:30 < sepp> hardware accelerated opengl works :)
12:30 < tilix> i`ll burn it now
12:30 < rxr> sepp: with some change? or just out of the box ?
12:30 < sepp> with a link
12:32 < sepp> i linked libglx.so.1.0.7174 to libglx.so
12:32 < rxr> ah
12:33 < rxr> that makes it work on all boxes ?
12:33 < sepp> otherwise it uses xorgs glx
12:33 < rxr> no crash anymore ?
12:33 < sepp> i tested only one right now
12:33 < sepp> let me try on this box ...
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12:36 < tilix> rebooting to test r15
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12:41 < sepp> yes works also
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12:44 < tilix> in livecd now
12:44 < tilix> new problems :(
12:45 < tilix> very small default cyrillic font
12:46 < valentin> moin
12:46 < tilix> 2. T2 doesn`t start any more in 1024x768@85 hz, but in 1024x768@75 hz, which is not good
12:46 < tilix> hi valentin
12:46 < tilix> 3. this ldconfig during boot time slows the booting time
12:47 < tilix> 4. even when setting hsync/vsync in xorg, the maximum refresh rate which KDE gives is 85 Hz.
12:49 < tilix> 5. when I try to open CD Recorder in desktop I receive "The process for the media protocol died unexpectedly."
12:51 < tilix> 6. my camera is recognised in dmesg, but /dev/sda1 is not added to fstab or to desktop.
12:51 < rxr> yes - the add on does not yet work
12:51 < rxr> I still fight hal ...
12:52 < tilix> why the default mode is not 85 Hz any more?
12:52 < rxr> I do not write horiz and vert frequencies in the xorg.conf anymore when DDC is available ...
12:52 < rxr> so X picks it automatically I think
12:52 < rxr> does your monitor offer DDC ?
12:53 < tilix> no, the DDC chip is broken.
12:53 < tilix> that`s the problem
12:58 < tilix> perhaps some default options and then DDC to overwrite them is a good idea
13:14 < rxr> what do you mean?
13:14 < rxr> as in details please ,-)
13:17 < tilix> the startup script should test if there is a DDC support, if not - should put in xorg.conf the default values
13:17 < rxr> I do ...
13:17 < rxr> I think the only missing part is to specify values via grub
13:18 < tilix> this should be even better
13:19 < rxr> I place defaults in the config files if NO DDC is available - hower quite conservative settings
13:19 < rxr> since most modern (post 1995 or so) monitors should have working DDC - those that do not have are normally quite old and thus do not sustain high frequencies ...
13:20 < tilix> hmm. thats why specifying values via GRUB should be better
13:20 < rxr> yep
13:20 < tilix> for me, ddcprobe gives "EDID read failed. (No DDC-capable monitor attached?)"
13:21 < rxr> ah - that is why conservative defaults end up in the file
13:25 < rxr> sepp: I have an updted live on my home box via rsync that does hopefully setup nvidia correctly ...
13:25 < rxr> and only runs ldconfig on /usr/X11/lib ...
13:25 < rxr> if you could give it a try ,-)
13:25 < sepp> i'll test it
13:27 < rxr> sent 3194580 bytes received 166997 bytes 31270.48 bytes/sec
13:28 < rxr> 9d80f3f753d9adc40d8e327d9cbb1004 t2.iso
13:33 < tilix> rxr: any plans on a program/script that will save the settings and /home/live somewhere?
13:46 < sepp> rxr: now opengl works without crashing x :-)
13:48 < rxr> sepp: perfect
13:48 < rxr> tilix: of course ... we will have such a thing soon ...
13:48 < rxr> tilix: if you want to provide it it would be even nicer ,-)
13:50 < sepp> whatever starts artsd, it should not do so if there is no soundcard
13:54 < tilix> btw, ALSA still can`t be started
13:56 < tilix> even with alsaconf
13:56 < tilix> /etc/init.d/alsa: line 63: modprobe: command not found
13:56 < tilix> /usr/sbin/alsactl: save_state:1194: No soundcards found..
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13:56 < jeru> moin
13:57 < tilix> hi jeru
13:57 < jeru> hi tilix
13:58 < tilix> rxr: could you include xdialog in r16?
13:58 < jeru> tilix: how are you today and how is current livecd experience ?
13:58 < jeru> any new release ?
13:58 < tilix> r15, i think
13:58 < rxr> I want to release the current snapshot as r16 fixing nvidia gl ...
13:59 < rxr> tilix: do you run alsaconf as root or live ?
13:59 < jeru> moin rxr :)
13:59 < rxr> hi jeru
13:59 < tilix> both: as root and live
13:59 < rxr> both say modprobe not found ?
13:59 < rxr> I mean as root ...
13:59 < rxr> it definetly is there ...
13:59 < rxr> tilix: can you post your lspci for your sound chipd ?
13:59 < rxr> -d
14:00 < jeru> tilix: have you done sudo ?
14:00 < tilix> sudo passwd
14:00 < rxr> ah - how did you became root?
14:00 < rxr> su or su - ?
14:00 < jeru> tilix: I used sudo bash --login
14:01 < rxr> the former does not read profile again and thus sbin is not in the path
14:01 < jeru> but I missed --login one time
14:01 < jeru> and it couldn't discover the right path for modprobe too
14:02 < tilix> the program worked, but there is another error:
14:02 < tilix> FATAL: Error inserting snd_pcm_oss (/lib/modules/2.6.11.9-dist/kernel/sound/core/oss/snd-pcm-oss.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see d :-))
14:03 < rxr> tilix: what does morprobe snd-pcm-oss ?
14:03 < tilix> nothing ???
14:04 < tilix> root@localhost:~# modprobe snd-pcm-oss
14:04 < tilix> root@localhost:~#
14:04 < tilix> root@localhost:~# lsmod | grep snd-pcm-oss
14:04 < valentin> tilix: lsmod
14:04 < rxr> then it should have worked ...
14:04 < tilix> root@localhost:~#
14:04 < tilix> no
14:04 < rxr> alsaconf is strange - I would not recommend it ..
14:04 < valentin> ouhm
14:04 < rxr> what is your lspci and the module that should be used for it?
14:04 < rxr> when the module is not loaded automatically it is a bug in hotplug++ ...
14:05 < rxr> tilix: is it pci or isa ?
14:05 < tilix> build-in nforce 2
14:05 < tilix> wait ...
14:05 < tilix> root@localhost:~# lsmod | grep snd_pcm_oss
14:05 < tilix> snd_pcm_oss 47648 0
14:05 < tilix> snd_mixer_oss 16160 1 snd_pcm_oss
14:05 < tilix> snd_pcm 78372 3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec
14:05 < tilix> snd 45380 6 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
14:05 < tilix> so it was with _ and not with -
14:08 < tilix> but anyway, it still doesn`t work (tried replacing snd-pcm-oss with snd_pcm_oss in alsaconf
14:13 < rxr> the _ and - versions are indentical
14:13 < rxr> modprobe translates them on-the-fly
14:13 < sepp> ohh my nforce 2 sound thing works
14:14 < tilix> under ALSA?
14:14 < rxr> tilix: tihs is strange - I can review later ...
14:14 < rxr> my breakfast egg gets a cold ...
14:14 < rxr> valentin: we have new exactscan details to implements ...
14:14 < rxr> maybe I can implement most of them ..
14:15 < rxr> it is enough when the "scan on page insert" only works in exactscan - so that is easy to implement ..
14:15 < sepp> tilix: with the livecd default
14:15 < tilix> it`s OSS there
14:16 < sepp> but its more like a bang device not a soundcard
14:16 < rxr> "Die bsonders "
14:16 < rxr> ^- typo on heise frontpage ,-)
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14:21 < tilix> rxr: why kde gives: Free Disk space: 0B of 537,4MB?
14:25 < jeru> have to reboot ... cu later
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14:27 < tilix> rxr: trying some flash games. The keys doesn`t work inside them
14:29 < rxr> flash what ?
14:29 < rxr> shockwave ?
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14:29 < sparc-kly> good morning
14:30 < rxr> hi sparc-kly
14:32 < tilix> rxr: yes
14:32 < tilix> the normal plugin
14:32 < rxr> hm - the last time I tried this stuff it work ...
14:33 < tilix> and why is running out of space in /home?
14:34 < valentin> rxr: what details about exactscan ?
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14:35 < jeru> re
14:36 < tilix> rxr: instead of my partitions, I`m seing only root disk in the Desktop. Why?
14:36 < tilix> and this root disk gives an error
14:38 < rxr> .o(because HAL sucks ... ,-)
14:38 < rxr> tilix: wait for tomorrow release for a hopefully completely working HAL integration
14:39 < tilix> rxr: why is running out of space in /home?
14:40 < tilix> 0 free bytes
14:41 < rxr> because it is on a tmpfs ...
14:41 < rxr> using max half of the RAM ...
14:43 < tilix> but it shouldn`t be like that
14:43 < tilix> ... i think
14:43 < tilix> rxr: I`ve set up the location to Bulgaria in KPersonalizer, but it still doesn`t display some sites that have Language Detection correctly
14:46 < rxr> how did you become root?
14:47 < rxr> oh - sorry - was scrollback ..
14:53 < jeru> Oh! I guess we forgot to wish "God" a happy birthday ... ;)
14:54 < rxr> god ?
14:54 < jeru> May the source always be with you! -> should be "May the submaster always be with you!"
14:54 < jeru> rxr: know you know who's "god"
14:55 < jeru> now
14:55 < rxr> yeaj
14:56 < jeru> rxr: do you know if these Centrino wireless stuff is working with linux
14:57 < rxr> I think so - it wsa the ip*2100 or so driver
14:58 < jeru> ah ... let me see .. thanks :)
14:58 < jeru> btw, this small acer bastard has a "Intel Corp. PRO/Wireless 2200BG "
14:58 < rxr> ah - 2200 is a driver we do not yet have IIRC
14:58 < rxr> but there also is a sf.net project
14:58 < rxr> no idea if it works ...
14:59 < jeru> rxr: so it's not included in the standard kernel sources
15:00 < rxr> nope neither right now
15:00 < rxr> but we have the 2100
15:01 < jeru> is the 2100 available in t2 standard modular kernel ?
15:01 < rxr> I can package it if it compiles ...
15:01 < rxr> yep - as postlinux.conf ,-)
15:02 < rxr> http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/
15:02 < jeru> rxr: are there any problems to package it ?
15:02 < jeru> click
15:04 < jeru> rxr: ok ... we should add this to our mental todo ... I don't need it urgently. just nice to have ;)
15:05 < jeru> but if you think it's no big problem to get it into t2, feel free to dump it in trunk ... hehe :)
15:05 < jeru> but I guess you've not the time right now for that fun stuff ... anyway
15:11 < jeru> rxr: is there no source version of eclipse ?
15:12 < jeru> rxr: wanna try to get it in trunk
15:12 < rxr> jeru: there should be ...
15:12 < rxr> never searched so far
15:14 < jeru> rxr: If I look at the build instructions I could censored ;)
15:16 < jeru> rxr: I guess to build a new eclipse package should be the first t2 contribution of my friend ;)
15:17 < jeru> Idecided that I don't want to fight with it today
15:17 < rxr> jeru: url ?
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15:18 < minto> hi all
15:19 < jeru> hi minto ... :)
15:19 < jeru> already talked about eclipse
15:20 < jeru> rxr: http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/index.php
15:20 < jeru> minto: because a friend wants to use t2 for java development
15:21 < jeru> so I vote to form a "T2 Java Development Group" ;)
15:21 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/java
15:22 < jeru> Not Found
15:22 < jeru> The requested URL /java was not found on this server.
15:22 < rxr> that was a hint to start it ,-)
15:23 < jeru> rxr: that means not that I want to be a member of this group ;)
15:23 < rxr> oh :-(
15:23 < jeru> rxr: let me please establish the "CMS" group first ;)
15:24 < jeru> rxr: and a security group of course too
15:24 < rxr> ,-)
15:24 < jeru> and and and and ...
15:24 < jeru> :)
15:25 < jeru> ah I forgot a cluster group
15:26 < rxr> and the x86-64 one ..
15:26 < rxr> btw. temperature climbing up to 20 ?C over here ... ,-)
15:31 * sparc-kly[U5] brbbrr
15:32 < rxr> well - summer lagging a bit behind .. - warmer over at your side ?
15:39 < valentin> rxr: it is not too warm here
15:40 * sparc-kly[U5] toast r15 now and i check my emaiil r16 is out
15:42 < rxr> do you have nvidia cards ?
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15:42 < jeru> hi valentin
15:43 < rxr> valentin: I call you shortly ?
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15:43 [Users #t2]
15:43 [ _Lewellyn] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly[U5]]
15:43 [ _Ragnar__] [ keinek ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ tilix ]
15:43 [ CIA-10 ] [ keinek_] [ mtr_ ] [ SerWou ] [ valentin ]
15:43 [ jeru ] [ minto ] [ nzg ] [ sparc-kly]
15:43 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 19 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 19 normal]
15:44 < minto> hi jeru
15:46 < minto> jeru: Java group would be fine. But I will not participate in the next 3 weeks (going on a holiday)
15:47 < minto> Unfortunately my vacation is 1400 km driving. With my aching back this will not be a pleasure.
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15:47 < minto> This is also the reason why I haven't done much lately.
15:49 < minto> Just wanted to let you guys know.
15:49 < minto> Happy hacking to you all.
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15:55 < sparc-kly[U5]> i test now r15 in DEll optiplex GX280
15:58 < rxr> what graphic card has it ?
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16:00 < sparc-kly[U5]> wait
16:01 < jeru> rxr: I'm trying to work with my trunk on the external HDD but while try ./scripts/Download I get -->
16:02 < jeru> /scripts/Download: line 807: /dev/fd/62: No such file or directory
16:02 < jeru> there is also a problem with devfs I think
16:03 < rxr> ln -s /proc/self/fd /dev/fd ?
16:03 < jeru> ls -al /dev/fd
16:03 < jeru> lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 13 May 19 16:29 /dev/fd -> /proc/self/fd
16:03 < jeru> ls -al /dev/fd
16:03 < jeru> lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 13 May 19 16:29 /dev/fd -> /proc/self/fd
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16:04 < jeru> rxr: I chroted into my r40 hdd
16:04 < jeru> chrooted
16:05 < jeru> rxr: problem solved ... forgot to mount proc
16:07 < jeru> rxr: btw, thanks for the credits in your announcement ;)
16:10 < jeru> rxr: will syncing to r16 now ...
16:12 < sparc-kly[U5]> intel express
16:13 < sparc-kly[U5]> i dont know exact model
16:13 < rxr> sparc-kly[U5]: ah - that should work fine I think
16:13 < rxr> all the latest revision have mostly been about nvidia support ..
16:13 < rxr> sparc-kly[U5]: you post some details about r15 on your box ?
16:14 < sparc-kly[U5]> what details ?
16:14 < rxr> works works not ...
16:14 < rxr> lspci so I can add it to the known to work section on the homepage ,-)
16:15 < sparc-kly[U5]> im in work now . i post details in my house . ok
16:15 < rxr> ah ,-)
16:16 < jeru> rxr: I want to update prelude stuff and while finishing the package builI get
16:17 < jeru> Found shared files with other packages:
16:17 < jeru> usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i686-t2-linux-gnu-thread-multi/auto: clearsilver libprelude
16:17 < jeru> what the fuck ...
16:17 < jeru> have you seen this before ?
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16:19 < jeru> anyway ... what is that "usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i686-t2-linux-gnu-thread-multi/" all about
16:22 < rxr> http://jolt-lang.org/
16:22 < rxr> jeru: no idea
16:24 < jeru> hmmm ... the updated package builds fine so far ... but this perl issue is strange. let's see what the refbuild will say
16:26 < CIA-10> chris * r8953 /trunk/package/security/libprelude/libprelude.desc: * updated libprelude (0.9.0-rc5.-> 0.9.0-rc6)
16:32 < CIA-10> chris * r8954 /trunk/package/security/prelude-manager/prelude-manager.desc: * updated prelude-manager (0.9.0-rc3 -> 0.9.0-rc4)
16:33 < mnemoc> re
16:34 < jeru> wb mnemoc :)
16:34 < mnemoc> hi jeru
16:35 < jeru> mnemoc: do you know what this dir is all about ? -> "usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i686-t2-linux-gnu-thread-multi/"
16:36 < jeru> while updating libprelude I get
16:36 < jeru> Found shared files with other packages:
16:36 < jeru> usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i686-t2-linux-gnu-thread-multi/auto: clearsilver libprelude
16:36 < mnemoc> no idea what this 'auto' is
16:37 < jeru> hmmmm ...
16:37 < mnemoc> i should google to know :(
16:37 < CIA-10> chris * r8955 /trunk/package/security/prelude-lml/prelude-lml.desc: * updated prelude-lml (0.9.0-rc3 -> 0.9.0-rc4)
16:51 < rxr> gravis sucks
16:52 < jeru> rxr: what do they tell you now ?
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17:05 < mnemoc> hi rxr_ :)
17:05 < rxr_> just had to demand to speak to some person with leading position to get some clearing ... - now they take photos and a new description and ask their up-stream inssurance again ...
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17:06 < mnemoc> .oO( what? )o
17:08 < rxr_> mnemoc: ?
17:08 < rxr_> hi mnemoc btw
17:09 < mnemoc> i missed the context of your talk :)
17:09 < rxr_> 16:51 < rxr> gravis sucks
17:09 < rxr_> 16:52 < jeru> rxr: what do they tell you now ?
17:09 < mnemoc> what is gravis? :)
17:10 < rxr_> an apple store equivalent ...
17:10 < mnemoc> aha
17:10 < rxr_> gave my iBook into repair since it case starts to depart ...
17:10 < mnemoc> outch
17:11 < valentin> damn, my iBook graphic seems to be broken again
17:11 < rxr_> just threee tiny cracks - but I wanted to get handled before the 3 year inssurance is over ...
17:11 < rxr_> valentin: ?
17:11 < rxr_> you mean the serial defect again ?
17:12 < rxr_> we could meat ta 18.00 at apple again ...
17:12 < valentin> sometimes the framebuffer f...ks up
17:12 < rxr_> in operation - or on boot or sleep ?
17:12 < rxr_> s/sleep/wakeup/
17:12 < valentin> mostly on wakeup, but about 20 minutes ago i had it while idling around
17:12 < rxr_> oo
17:13 < valentin> setting it to sleep and rewaking solved the problem, but now i have some flickers every now and then
17:13 < rxr_> .oO
17:13 < valentin> maybe the flickers now are due to wrong timing or so
17:13 < valentin> rxr: btw, see query
17:13 < rxr_> I see nothing
17:13 < rxr_> I was reconnecting 15 minutes ago ...
17:14 < valentin> ah - then who tf am i talking to ?
17:14 < valentin> rxr: please re-nick
17:14 < tilix> rxr: Konqueror gives: "Unable to start the cookie handler service. You will not be able to manage the cookies that are stored on your computer."
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17:15 < rxr> tilix: oh
17:16 < tilix> any ideas?
17:16 < rxr> guess s.th. missing ... :-()
17:16 < rxr> I hvae not tried it yet
17:16 < rxr> and will leave soon - sorry
17:17 < rxr> but can you write all the remaining issues via mail so I can work them one by one down ... ?
17:17 < tilix> sure
17:18 < rxr> you have my address I guess ... ?
17:18 < rxr> valentin: seems I'
17:18 < mnemoc> why not t2@ec.de?
17:18 < rxr> or that ,-) yes
17:18 < valentin> rxr: what ?
17:18 < rxr> valentin: ll soon have the opportunity to waste some time on ICC - for the linux magazine ..
17:20 < valentin> didn't you do some gcc article recently?
17:21 < rxr> yep - 4.0 will be in the issue in print the next days ..
17:21 < rxr> so - me preparing to leave to visit gravis before the cinema ..
17:22 < tilix> rxr: star wars?
17:22 < rxr> yep
17:22 < rxr> (to get my iBook back for furture software development rather then having it accumulating dust in their store - damn)
17:23 < mnemoc> i'll have to wait to see it on tv... as i did for e1 and e2 :(
17:25 < valentin> mnemoc: why ?
17:26 < valentin> no cinema in Machali ?
17:26 < mnemoc> yes, sure... 1.5km from my house
17:27 < mnemoc> but i can't spend that money or time for the moment
17:27 < valentin> and you have to take care of your girls.
17:27 < mnemoc> and when i get the time, it will be out of cinema
17:27 < mnemoc> sure... i can't leave them alone
17:27 < valentin> poor mnemoc - tonight we can spoiler you with the ending ,)
17:28 < mnemoc> no problem, i saw e4 ;)
17:28 < mnemoc> i know how it ends :p
17:28 < valentin> well, you must know e5 to know that darth vader is luke's father
17:28 < rxr> cu
17:28 < valentin> cu rxr
17:29 < tilix> cu rxr
17:29 < mnemoc> valentin: yes, i know that part too
17:29 < mnemoc> cu rxr
17:29 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0505/38143.html
17:29 < rxr> cu
17:33 < mnemoc> .oO( i have to learn german )o
17:33 < valentin> mnemoc: go for it :)
17:34 < mnemoc> it's on my TODO :)
17:34 < valentin> it is quite easy: "Mein Name ist mnemoc, und ich bin ein Profi-Hacker"
17:34 < mnemoc> Profi?
17:35 < valentin> professional person
17:35 < mnemoc> /leo profi
17:35 < mnemoc> aha
17:35 < jeru> cu rxr
17:35 < mnemoc> thanks :)
17:36 < jeru> mnemoc: we could arrange a deal ... I teach you german, and you teach me spanish ;)
17:39 < mnemoc> deal :)
17:40 < jeru> hehe :)
17:42 < valentin> but it will be written language only :/
17:42 < mnemoc> :(
17:43 < mnemoc> i have the same problem with english :(
17:44 < tilix> I`m leaving now
17:44 < jeru> hmmm ... I could search for a german <-> spanish course on DVD or sth. like that
17:44 < jeru> I guess I'll find people which will have sth like that
17:44 < tilix> bye
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17:47 < jeru> ok ... have to leave too ...
17:47 < jeru> cu later companeros :)
17:49 < mnemoc> cu jeru
17:50 < valentin> cu jeru
17:50 < jeru> bye bye
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17:59 < CIA-10> amery * r8956 /trunk/package/java/kaffe/kaffe.conf: * changed kaffe to create it's profile file
18:17 < valentin> we will leave in some minutes, too -> star wars :)
18:18 < mnemoc> :)
18:27 < valentin> cu
18:27 < mnemoc> cu valentin
18:32 < CIA-10> amery * r8957 /trunk/package/java/kaffe/version.patch: * fixed kaffe to present itself as java 1.4 instead of 1.1
18:50 < sparc-kly> http://xlinux.ath.cx/5-dmalloc.err
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21:16 < CIA-10> amery * r8958 /trunk/package/java/java-dirtree/ (java-common-conf.in java-dirtree.conf parse-config):
21:16 < CIA-10> * changed java-dirtree to keep JDK's profiles at etc/opt/java/$jdk.in
21:16 < CIA-10> * fixed java-dirtree JDK's profiles generation to escape $CLASSPATH and $PATH (\$)
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21:49 < CIA-10> amery * r8959 /trunk/package/java/classpath/parse-config: * removed classpath/parse-config, no longer needed
21:53 < CIA-10> amery * r8960 /trunk/package/java/apache-ant/apache-ant.desc: * fixed apache-ant's [V], it is 1.6.3
22:04 < CIA-10> amery * r8961 /trunk/package/database/bdb/bdb-conf.in: * changed bdb to not JAVAC=jikes, use the wrapper.
22:06 < CIA-10> amery * r8962 /trunk/package/database/bdb/java_noexamples.patch: * patched bdb to not build java examples
22:17 < _Lewellyn> looks like you're making good progress toward ooo being able to build :)
22:18 < mnemoc> that is my goal
22:19 < mnemoc> and ooo seems to be happy
22:19 < mnemoc> java is just an accident
22:26 < _Lewellyn> :)
22:27 < _Lewellyn> that last line sums up a lot ;)
22:27 < mnemoc> :)
22:29 < sepp> am i still allowed to merge 3 off my pkgs ( that i forgot :( ) from trunk to 2.1 ?
22:29 < mnemoc> uhm
22:30 < mnemoc> only if they are tested to build on 2.1
22:30 < mnemoc> i can do the merge if you tell me what packages
22:31 < sepp> erlang-otp, esdl, wings3d
22:31 * _Lewellyn needs to finish his ksh package soon
22:31 < sepp> they break no other things - just forgot to put merge them to 2.1 as i saw today
22:32 < mnemoc> ok, merge them
22:32 < mnemoc> as an atomic merge
22:33 < mnemoc> if they are related
22:33 < mnemoc> _Lewellyn: are you using T2 now?
22:33 < sepp> let me just recheck, and yes they are related
22:40 < _Lewellyn> mnemoc: no. still need to get caught up on work before i can switch machines and upgrade :(
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23:09 < CIA-10> sebastian * r8963 /branches/2.1/package/ (11 files in 3 dirs): * merged back r8480 - r8482 (wings3d and requirements)
23:09 < sepp> mnemoc: sorry that i forgot it, but it compiles and runs with 2.1 :)
23:11 < mnemoc> sepp: :)
23:17 < sepp> btw i build hugin last night - worked for here
23:17 < sepp> for me
23:19 < mnemoc> what was wrong with hugin?
23:19 < sepp> it is listed on http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/regressions.html
23:19 < mnemoc> oh
23:19 < sepp> as failed
23:20 < mnemoc> after i finish java stuff i'll update that
23:20 < sepp> ok
23:20 < mnemoc> what has the error on my reference build?
23:20 < sepp> "cannot find the panorama tools directory"
23:21 < sepp> strange since libpano worked
23:22 < sepp> but maybe it's better to recheck after all java changes
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23:28 < sparc-kly> my PC freeze again .
23:28 < CIA-10> amery * r8964 /trunk/package/database/bdb/bdb-conf.in: * changed bdb to install it's jar on opt/java/lib as libdb4.3-java.jar
23:28 < sparc-kly> :(
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23:57 < sepp> good night all
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