--- Log opened Sun Apr 17 00:00:04 2005 00:24 < CIA-9> chris * r8293 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux-conf.in: * fixed linux-conf.in to construct the right extraversions 00:24 < mnemoc> thanks! 01:03 < mnemoc> jeru: are you around? 01:08 < keinek> my 2nd build of T2 is installing ok, in my old athlon 750 :) 01:09 < mnemoc> :) 01:16 < mnemoc> jeru: are you around? 01:21 < mnemoc> jeru: :( 01:21 < jeru> yep 01:21 < jeru> what's wrong 01:22 < mnemoc> :D 01:22 < mnemoc> plone 01:22 < mnemoc> i have a zope running 01:22 < jeru> cool 01:22 < jeru> :D 01:22 < mnemoc> but i don't see plone on products list 01:23 < jeru> have you installe plone package ? 01:23 < mnemoc> yep 01:23 < jeru> have you done mkzopeinstance ? 01:23 < mnemoc> yep 01:24 < mnemoc> i have it running 01:24 < jeru> have adjusted the "effective-user" in zope conf ? 01:24 < mnemoc> yep 01:24 < mnemoc> 2005-04-16T19:02:42 INFO(0) Zope Ready to handle requests 01:24 < jeru> cd {yourinstancehome} 01:25 < mnemoc> /var/opt/zope/client/intranet 01:25 < jeru> cd /var/opt/zope/client/intranet/Products 01:26 < mnemoc> empty 01:26 < mnemoc> but plone is global, isn't it? 01:26 < jeru> no 01:26 < jeru> you have to copy or linkit there 01:26 < mnemoc> oh 01:26 < jeru> but wait 01:27 < jeru> what other products do you have ? 01:27 < mnemoc> i see 20 products on the manager 01:27 < jeru> archetypes ? 01:28 < mnemoc> Product Management at /Control_Panel/Products 01:28 < mnemoc> 20 items there 01:28 < mnemoc> nothing say "archetype" 01:28 < jeru> install following packages please 01:28 < jeru> archetypes 01:29 < jeru> atcontenttypes 01:29 < mnemoc> (don't forget ldap target) 01:29 < jeru> I know 01:29 < jeru> that's why you can't use the standard plone 01:30 < jeru> placelesstranslationservice 01:30 < jeru> ^add it to the list 01:30 < mnemoc> i removed plone and i'm emerging it again, after that i'll ever everything you name here 01:49 < mnemoc> fsck! 01:49 < mnemoc> i got all products installed on / 02:27 -!- jeru [~jeru@p54BFF072.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #t2 [] 03:16 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.12.39] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:01 < mnemoc> gn8 * 04:01 < mnemoc> 0 04:04 < javito> gn8 05:50 -!- mtr_ [~michael@Hb8f1.h.pppool.de] has joined #t2 05:51 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.30] has joined #t2 05:54 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.5] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 05:59 -!- mtr__ [~michael@Ha7b6.h.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 07:57 < rxr> re 07:58 < rxr> hm - my OOO build aborted with the same PL_* undefined references problem ... 08:01 < rxr> OO: build from 23:10 to 6:28 08:01 < rxr> ERROR-LOG is 33M 08:02 < rxr> and the flist rlog 1.6G 08:23 -!- cybrjackle [~justin@CPE-65-28-47-173.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #t2 08:24 < cybrjackle> if i'm sending in e-mail to the list, what is the addr 08:24 < cybrjackle> lists@exactcode.de 08:24 < cybrjackle> I tried that, but that seems to be the subscribe/unsubscribe 09:01 < rxr> yes 09:02 < rxr> the list address t2@exactcode.de 09:02 < rxr> the lists is for subscription management ... 09:03 -!- cybrjackle [~justin@CPE-65-28-47-173.kc.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 10:29 -!- CIA-9 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [] 10:32 -!- CIA-9 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #t2 11:54 < CIA-9> rene * r8294 /trunk/package/office/ooo/ (ooo.conf ooo.desc): 11:54 < CIA-9> * cleaned up some whitespacing in ooo, removed unneeded backslash and 11:54 < CIA-9> icecream comment 11:58 -!- laj_ [~laj@0x503e3922.arcnxx6.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [] 12:05 < CIA-9> rene * r8295 /trunk/package/office/ooo/ooo.conf: 12:05 < CIA-9> * fixed ooo to build further by exporting DEFAULT_TO_ENGLISH_FOR_PACKING 12:05 < CIA-9> due to missing language packs in the the development version (?) 12:06 < rxr> hm - maybe OOO is installing now ... 12:06 < rxr> but I' not quite shure yet 12:07 < rxr> good that I made the flist wrapper large file save last night 12:07 < rxr> the fl_wrapper.rlog is already 1.9GB again ... 12:22 -!- tilix [~tilix@pppoe29.bol.bg] has joined #t2 12:30 < rxr> hi tilix 12:31 < tilix> hi 12:33 < tilix> rxr: is there a bootsplash support in T2? 12:34 < rxr> nope 12:34 < rxr> it is considered that ugly, especially by the upstream kernel people, that I'll not support it 12:35 < rxr> instead work is on the way to implement it "the right way (tm)" entirely in user space ... 12:36 < tilix> Have you seen Splashy? (http://wiki.nanofreesoft.org/index.php/Splashy). It`s entirely in user space. 12:36 < rxr> wow! OpenOffice just finished building ! Whohoo .... 12:38 < tilix> Which version? 2.0-beta? 12:38 < rxr> yep 12:38 < rxr> but now install breaks ... 12:39 < rxr> tilix: I one saw one other project doing it in user space 12:39 < rxr> but i'm not sure if it is the one you linked 12:39 < rxr> the url does not load on my side 12:39 < rxr> timeout ... 12:39 < rxr> ah - now it did 12:45 < rxr> well - maybe it is what I once daw already 12:45 < tilix> it requires GCC 4.0 :( 12:46 < rxr> oh .- why is that ? 12:46 < tilix> one of the authors is working on a new version, that will compile under GCC 3.x 12:48 < tilix> rxr: about this T2 2.2? that you mensioned on the mailing list - will you use GRUB for the livecd target, or isolinux? 12:49 < rxr> hm - that is not yet decided and is not the biggest design decision - why do you ask ? 12:50 < tilix> Grub gives more options than Isolinux (just asking). If you need any help with the design - I could help. 12:51 < rxr> are you already using T2 ? 12:52 < tilix> no, because my internet connection is too slow to download everything, but I`ll upgrade in some months 13:10 -!- tilix [~tilix@pppoe29.bol.bg] has left #t2 ["Konversation terminated!"] 13:13 -!- _jeru [~jeru@p54BFB78C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 13:13 < rxr> hi _jeru 13:13 [Users #t2] 13:13 [ _jeru ] [ CIA-9 ] [ jsaw_ ] [ mtr_] [ rxr ] 13:13 [ _Ragnar_] [ javito] [ mnemoc_] [ nzg ] [ valentin] 13:13 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 10 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 10 normal] 13:14 -!- _jeru is now known as jeru 13:14 < jeru> hi rxr :) 13:15 < jeru> rxr: btw, the radeon in my thinkpad seems to work more stable with the new kernel after you cleanup ;) 13:17 < rxr> hm - good ,-) 13:17 < CIA-9> rene * r8296 /trunk/scripts/Download: * fixed Download to continue working after a CVS error 13:19 < jeru> rxr: I've also an update for uml_utilities in my pipeline extending the linux with UML skas3 patch. It builds and works for 2.6, but I've some build problems for 2.4 because of squashfs patch 13:22 < jeru> rxr: to fix it we've to rewrite the squasfs pkg_linux_post.conf 13:22 < rxr> the patches are conflicting ? 13:23 < jeru> not really 13:23 < rxr> but ? 13:23 < jeru> we've to move the patching away from preconf 13:23 < jeru> I'll rewrite it, ok 13:31 < rxr> I still do not see why? 13:31 < rxr> what is the problem when the patches do not conflict ? 13:32 < jeru> they conflict in 2.4, I think due to the order of applying the patches 13:32 < rxr> if they conflict, the order should AFAIR not matter 13:32 < rxr> have you tried applying it in the other order manually ? 13:33 < jeru> not yet 13:33 < rxr> you should try before you start rewriting ... 13:34 < jeru> ok 13:38 < CIA-9> rene * r8297 /trunk/scripts/Download: 13:38 < CIA-9> * fixed the CVS checkout size sanity check to count files, instead 13:38 < CIA-9> of the blocks consumed by the compressed tarball - the whole blocks 13:38 < CIA-9> are too big for tiny checkouts such as transset and others 13:59 < rxr> OOO is a damn crap ... 14:02 -!- rxr_ [~rene@e178138098.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 14:02 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta4 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ 14:02 -!- Topic set by menomc [] [Sat Apr 16 00:33:34 2005] 14:02 [Users #t2] 14:02 [ _Ragnar_] [ javito] [ jsaw_ ] [ mtr_] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 14:02 [ CIA-9 ] [ jeru ] [ mnemoc_] [ nzg ] [ rxr_] 14:02 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 11 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal] 14:02 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 14:02 -!- [freenode-info] please register your nickname...don't forget to auto-identify! http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 14:02 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 10 secs 14:18 -!- rxr [~rene@e178170181.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:32 < rxr_> re 14:32 -!- You're now known as rxr 14:37 * javito wakes up 14:37 < javito> morning. 14:37 < javito> which gcc version are you actually using guys? 14:37 < javito> for building t2 from trunk 14:37 < rxr> 3.4.3 14:38 < javito> ok 15:02 < CIA-9> rene * r8298 /trunk/package/multimedia/mplayer/ (jack.patch mplayer.cache mplayer.desc rgb32to16.patch): * updated mplayer (1.0pre6a -> 1.0pre7) 15:15 < jeru> rxr: you're right regarding squashfs patch. resorting doesn't help. but anyway I've rewritten the pkg_linux*.conf. now it also includes the patch linux26-patches too 15:20 < rxr> hm 15:22 < jeru> rxr: I've to patch vserver for 2.4 for succesfully applying squashfs and vserver together 15:28 < CIA-9> chris * r8299 /trunk/package/network/nessus/nessus.desc: * added [U] to nessus.desc 15:29 < CIA-9> chris * r8300 /trunk/package/network/honeyd/honeyd.desc: * added libpcap to [E] 15:31 < CIA-9> chris * r8301 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/pkgsel/Services/Web/PHP.ask: * added libjpeg, libpng, libtiff, netpbm to PHP pkgsel 15:31 < rxr> jeru: why r 8300 ? 15:32 < CIA-9> chris * r8302 /trunk/package/security/vserver/vserver.desc: * added [F] DIETLIBC 15:33 < jeru> rxr: 8300 -> honeyd needs libpcap 15:33 < jeru> or have I missed sth ? 15:37 < rxr> it does need it during compilation, right? 15:38 < rxr> and such it is detected at build time by the T2 sandbox - and thus no hardcoding needed ... 15:38 < rxr> why do you hardcode [E] tags ? 15:39 < jeru> rxr: please tell me the policies for [E] and I'll adjust my style ;) 15:40 < jeru> Dependencies 15:40 < jeru> In order to compile honeyd, you need the following libraries: 15:40 < jeru> libevent - an asynchronous event library. 15:40 < jeru> libdnet - the [not so] dumb network library. 15:40 < jeru> libpcap - a packet capture library. 15:41 < rxr> well - and? 15:41 < rxr> we do not hardcode dependencies manually 15:41 < jeru> ok 15:42 < rxr> aside that currently this ugly static priority is used for sorting, the dependencies are stored / cached in the cache file from the build system 15:42 < jeru> should I erase [E] completely ? 15:42 < rxr> the [E] is only for manual fine tuning ... 15:42 < rxr> better inject the .cache file from your build ... 15:42 < rxr> ../var/adm/cache/$pkg ,-) 15:43 < jeru> ok ;) 15:43 < rxr> yes - if all are detected at build time and your cache file has them, removing so obsoleted [E] tags would be nice 15:43 < jeru> [DEP] libdnet 15:43 < jeru> [DEP] libevent 15:43 < jeru> [DEP] libpcap 15:43 < jeru> [ 15:43 < jeru> so I'll erase it 15:44 < rxr> well - they could also be in the cache due to your hardcoding - but if they are linked in by honeyd, they will be in the file automatically ... 15:44 < rxr> linked in as in gcc -lblablubs ... or header including ... 15:47 < jeru> but rebuilding the package should rebuild the cache file too, right ? 15:50 < CIA-9> chris * r8303 /trunk/package/network/honeyd/honeyd.desc: * removed [E] flag 15:52 < rxr> iyes 15:52 < rxr> I have to reboot my router 15:52 < jeru> good luck :) 15:52 < rxr> susan rendered the serial ports unresetable from userspace. .. 15:52 < rxr> no idea - why the damn kernel is that stupid ... 15:52 < rxr> anyway 15:52 < rxr> cu 15:52 < rxr> btw up 139 days ... 15:53 < jeru> hehe :) --- Log closed Sun Apr 17 15:53:15 2005 --- Log opened Sun Apr 17 18:23:37 2005 18:47 < jeru> rxr: how can I manipulate the target dir "on-the-fly" while untaring an archive? I want to append versions e.g. dir "foo" in the tar should extracted to "foo-1.0" 18:54 < rxr> hm 18:55 < rxr> the only off hand hack 18:55 < rxr> mkdir foo-1.0 18:55 < rxr> ln -s foo-1.0 foo 18:55 < rxr> tar ... 18:55 < rxr> ,-) 18:55 < jeru> ,-) 19:10 < jeru> rxr: I want to integrate a generic install function for zope products into zope.conf and include zope.conf in {product}.conf. Do you see any problems for doing so ? 19:11 < jeru> or should I seperate it into a new file ? 19:33 < rxr> I'm not an zope expert ... 19:33 < rxr> no idea how they are distributed or configured / installed ... 19:33 < rxr> I think you will solder it together in some nice way ,-) 19:35 < jeru> ohhh .... ,-) 19:36 < jeru> I just thought .... it's better to have just one install function instead of copy & paste conf files ;) 19:50 < rxr> yes - install function sounds nice 19:53 -!- minto_ [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla rv:1.7.6/20050318]"] 19:54 -!- minto_ [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 19:55 < minto_> Hi * 20:03 < mnemoc_> rehi 20:06 < mnemoc_> keinek: i'm finally listening red-handed :) 20:14 < rxr> hi 20:18 < mnemoc_> keinek: the word "software" needs to be refined, current pronuntiaton stinks :) 20:18 < mnemoc_> hi rxr 20:18 < minto_> hi rxr, mnemoc 20:18 < mnemoc_> hi minto_ 20:18 * mnemoc_ to lunch brb 20:21 < minto_> I nearly have the Sun J2EE Application Server added. Only 2 issues need to be resolved. 20:21 < keinek> mnemoc_, :) 20:21 < keinek> now i was search for teleworking 20:22 < keinek> :D 20:22 < keinek> i found one job in the papers, near of my house, is for teaching repair PC, i think that i can do that. 20:22 < keinek> :) 20:23 < keinek> tomorrow i will go in the morning, meaby i found a new job. 20:23 < keinek> :) 20:24 < minto_> One issue is that I can not install Sun AS twice (with a remove in between) at the same location. The installation puts something in /var/tmp that does not get uninstalled by mine -r. 20:27 < minto_> The other one is that the installer seems to return 73 on succes. The Emerge-Pkg thinks this is an error and stops. 20:29 < minto_> Currently I run: 20:29 < minto_> $installer $install_options 20:29 < minto_> How can I wrap this command up so Package build does not stop? 20:51 -!- cyrus82 [~martin@dsl-082-083-052-089.arcor-ip.net] has joined #t2 20:51 < rxr> re 20:53 < cyrus82> hello, its me again. I think i understood the basics of t2 now. But now i have another problem: 20:53 < cyrus82> root@cybox:~/t2/trunk# ./scripts/Config -cfg notebook 20:53 < cyrus82> Creating rockdialog tool. 20:53 < cyrus82> gcc misc/rockdialog/*.c -Imisc/rockdialog -lncurses -o src/rockdialog.bin 20:53 < cyrus82> Creating configuration script. 20:53 < cyrus82> T2 2.1.0-rc2 configuration ... 20:53 < cyrus82> Building src/config_helper.so. 20:53 < cyrus82> ./scripts/Config: line 118: 19318 Segmentation fault "$0" -cfg $config $oldconfig $profile $nobashmod -cycle 20:54 < cyrus82> whats up there? (im on another host system now) 20:54 < jeru> cyrus82: you answered the question already ;) 20:55 < cyrus82> ;) hey this is crazy.... dmesg shows this after executing the above: 20:55 < cyrus82> Config[20110]: segfault at 0000000000000000 rip 00002aaaaae99dc0 rsp 00007fffffffeea8 error 4 20:55 < cyrus82> is linux 2.6.11.6 on x86_64 20:56 < cyrus82> but everything else runs stable... 21:18 < mnemoc_> re 21:18 -!- cyrus82 [~martin@dsl-082-083-052-089.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:18 < jeru> hi mnemoc :) 21:19 < mnemoc_> hi zope maintainer :) 21:19 < jeru> ohoh 21:19 * jeru hides 21:19 * mnemoc_ looks for jeru's body 21:20 < jeru> mnemoc_: the problem with plonenewsletter was a dumb thing 21:20 < mnemoc_> yes? 21:20 < mnemoc_> why does it want to be popoll? 21:20 < jeru> mnemoc_: hmmm .... damn cut and paste 21:20 < jeru> because it was popoll ,) 21:20 < mnemoc_> pff 21:21 < jeru> anyway ... I think it was a wrong commit 21:22 < jeru> mnemoc_: don't beat me please :) 21:22 < mnemoc_> nah 21:22 < jeru> mnemoc_: thx 21:22 < mnemoc_> i know you will fix it 21:22 < mnemoc_> before branching 2.1-stable 21:22 < jeru> I'm already writing a generic product function 21:22 < mnemoc_> what is today :) 21:22 < mnemoc_> good 21:23 < mnemoc_> zope-conf.in is the standarized name for it 21:24 < jeru> I have it at zope.conf now ... but will mv it 21:24 < jeru> thx ;) 21:24 < mnemoc_> :) 21:32 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.14.56] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:44 * minto_ needs some help 21:45 < minto_> mnemoc_: I think i need some help. 21:46 < mnemoc_> tell me 21:46 < minto_> I am trying to the Sun J2ee Application Server added but I run into various problems. 21:47 < minto_> the one I had before is solved. the installer has a -console and -silent option. 21:47 < minto_> However it seems it needs to be run from the directory the installer is in. 21:48 < minto_> Oeps, I'll be right back 21:49 < minto_> Where was I 21:50 < minto_> The download is stored as .bin and I have autoextract=0 21:50 < minto_> How do run the installer from its own directory? 21:51 < minto_> Currently I run is with ../download/local/j/... 21:51 < minto_> Should I first copy it to builddir? 21:53 < minto_> mnemoc: ? 21:53 < mnemoc_> mom 21:53 < mnemoc_> ln it :) 21:54 < minto_> I will try. 21:54 < mnemoc_> if you don't alter .bin you don't need to duplicate it 21:55 < minto_> I am not altering it. 21:55 < minto_> Second. the installer returns 73 (whose should we hang for that) on success. 21:55 < minto_> How do I handle this in .conf 21:58 < mnemoc_> errno=$? 21:58 < mnemoc_> uhm 21:59 < mnemoc_> || true 21:59 < minto_> Hmm, I can try || true 21:59 < minto_> Currently I have the command wrapped up like this: 21:59 < minto_> $(./j2ee.installer $install_options) 21:59 < mnemoc_> but you need to determine if it really finished with 73 or != 73 i think 22:00 < minto_> So I need to wrap it up and do errno=$? 22:00 < mnemoc_> or echo $? and catch stdout 22:00 < minto_> catch stdout? 22:01 < minto_> What for? 22:02 < mnemoc_> echo $? will print you $? 22:02 < mnemoc_> foo=blah 22:03 < mnemoc_> ( foo=poink ) 22:03 < mnemoc_> echo $foo 22:03 < mnemoc_> blah 22:04 < mnemoc_> to much noise to concentrate on explaning using english 22:04 < mnemoc_> if you (./j2ee.installer $install_options; errno=$? ) 22:04 < minto_> Ahh, like ( ./j2ee.installer ...; echo $> 22:04 < mnemoc_> you won't see the value of errno outside 22:04 < minto_> You beat me 22:05 < minto_> I understand now. 22:05 < mnemoc_> so you somehow need: errno=$( ./j2ee.installer ...; echo $? ) 22:05 < minto_> Thanks, I will try this first. Later I have another issue. 22:06 < mnemoc_> ok 22:06 < mnemoc_> if you are sure ./j2ee.installer will always succed 22:06 < mnemoc_> you can ./j2ee.installer || true 22:07 < minto_> I am not. I have ran it I think a 100 times and I did not always succeed. 22:07 < minto_> This bring me to the other issue. 22:08 < minto_> I do: 22:08 < minto_> Emerge-Pkg sun-as 22:08 < minto_> mine -r sun-as 22:08 < minto_> Emerge-Pkg sun-as 22:08 < minto_> The first is succes. The second fails. 22:08 < mnemoc_> o_O 22:08 < minto_> something is put in /var/tmp that does not get removed on mine -r 22:08 < minto_> is /var excluded from flist? 22:09 < mnemoc_> i think /var/tmp is 22:09 < minto_> How can I manually add the additional entries? 22:09 < minto_> in .conf script 22:10 < mnemoc_> flistadd 22:10 < mnemoc_> but /var/tmp is tempfs on many places 22:10 < minto_> What should I do then? 22:11 < minto_> Like it currently is I can not install sun-as in the same place twice. 22:11 < minto_> The installer detects a previous installation. 22:11 < rxr> re 22:13 < rxr> minto_ fixup after the java installer 22:13 < mnemoc_> .oO( /lib/t2/{pre,post}{install,remove}.d/$pkg/ )o 22:13 < minto_> Maybe I remove the /var/tmp stuf right away in the .conf script. 22:13 < rxr> Emerging installed packages should work fine 22:13 < minto_> rxr: fixup like removing the /var/tmp stuff 22:13 < mnemoc_> minto_: be carefull to only remove sun stuff 22:14 < rxr> minto_: yes - like that ,-) 22:14 < minto_> I wil. I can grep it from fl_wrapper I think. 22:14 < rxr> mnemoc_: ack 22:14 < rxr> oehm ... 22:14 < rxr> I would not grep from flist - but take a look what pattern is left there 22:14 < mnemoc_> minto_: if sun isntaller can recognize them, you too 22:15 < rxr> ,-) 22:16 < minto_> These files are put in /var/tmp: 22:16 < minto_> /var/tmp/Java_2_Platform__Enterprise_Edition_1.4_SDK_install.B04170946 22:16 < minto_> /var/tmp/Java_2_Platform__Enterprise_Edition_1.4_SDK_install.A04170946 22:16 < minto_> /var/tmp/Install_Application_Server_8PE_200504172146.log 22:16 < minto_> /var/tmp/productregistry 22:17 < rxr> ouhm - my god - my stomarch 22:18 < minto_> rxr: it gets worse. It has a return code of 73 for succes 22:18 < mnemoc_> SUN is special 22:18 < minto_> IBM is worse 22:19 < minto_> Their installer wont even start properly on a console 22:19 < mnemoc_> jikes has a normal install rutine 22:19 < minto_> Now I need GUI 22:19 < mnemoc_> :\ 22:19 < minto_> It was IBM Websphere Application Server (Trial version). 22:20 < minto_> A whopping 300 Megs for a AppServer. 22:20 < minto_> Sun a mere 100 Megs 22:20 < mnemoc_> .oO( i guess i don't want that on T2 )o 22:20 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/Xng/ 22:20 < rxr> please no news site forward ... 22:20 < rxr> (yet) 22:20 < minto_> And Jboss source is only 60 Megs 22:21 < mnemoc_> only? 22:21 < rxr> .oO 22:21 < minto_> Okay 59 22:22 < minto_> Yes but in that 59 all dependancy are included. Just like OpenOffice I think 22:23 < mnemoc_> i hate that 22:23 < minto_> Like this the java repository will be just as big as the rest of T2. 22:26 * mnemoc_ hates java 22:26 < rxr> hehe - /me too 22:26 < rxr> minto_: or OOO - building as long as the whole rest of my desktop target .... 22:29 < minto_> I think they include some random noise to have it look impressive. Maby the same for OOO. It burns a few extra cycles to show off. 22:29 < minto_> They probably get paid the microsoft way, with KLOCs 22:30 < minto_> Kilo Lines Of Code. They get paid for every 1000 lines of code. The more lines the higher the payment. 22:30 < mnemoc_> including comments :) 22:30 < minto_> In that case is should build fast. :-) 22:31 < minto_> So probably not. 22:31 < mnemoc_> :) 22:34 < minto_> Now I know why MS always ships their products a couple of months to late. The compiler hasn't finished. 22:34 < minto_> :-D 22:46 * jeru missed the java bashing :/ 22:47 < minto_> jeru: Minto was not bashing, merely complaining about the size. 22:49 < minto_> mnemoc_: the installation was a sucess this time. I even have a 73 22:49 < mnemoc_> size and installers :) 22:49 < rxr> we will have over 1600 packages this night ... 22:50 < mnemoc_> http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/ref/regressions.html <--- 1613 22:50 < rxr> # l */*/*.desc | wc -l 22:50 < rxr> 1616 22:51 < minto_> This calls for a celebration. Drinks are on me. 22:51 < rxr> + 2 22:51 < rxr> hehe 22:51 < rxr> i have to do late night new article writing in susan's kitchen ... 22:51 < rxr> I have yogi tea with me ... 22:51 < minto_> +1 22:53 < mnemoc_> :) 22:55 < rxr> mnemoc_: have you read my OO built 22:55 < rxr> (but failed to install) 22:56 < mnemoc_> .oO( should i reschedule my gconf? should i reschedule _everything_ ? 22:56 < rxr> and I hacked the only build error manually - in 1 1/2 hours of grepping I did _not_ find the place to inject the fix ... 22:56 < rxr> mnemoc_: no idea 22:56 < rxr> it was a in-system build 22:56 < rxr> so not t2 HEAD ... 22:56 < rxr> none of my four OOO in-system builds failed at this gconf thing ... 22:57 < mnemoc_> rxr: ./patches/src680/apply is the key 22:57 < mnemoc_> i do patch it on package/office/ooo/t2-distro.patch, and there we can add t2-only patches 22:58 < rxr> mnemoc_: nope 22:58 < rxr> you misunderstodd me 22:58 < rxr> I did not even find the place to _patch_ 22:58 < rxr> tweak - modify 22:59 < rxr> I did not found where the h*ll the defect was _caused_ so no place top atch ... 22:59 < mnemoc_> aaa. ok 22:59 < rxr> I have to understand this strange build mess some other day ... 22:59 < mnemoc_> i though you didn't find the place to make ooo-build patch the source 22:59 < rxr> I needed up calling gcc manually and placing the object at the place ... 22:59 < rxr> I did not found where the defect gcc called was invoken ... 22:59 < rxr> s/needed/ended/ 23:00 < mnemoc_> #OpenOffice.org , ask for rene 23:00 < mnemoc_> :) 23:01 < mnemoc_> he thinks everyone who ask something is a jerk but in the very deep, he is a nice guy 23:02 < mnemoc_> s/ but/. but/ 23:02 < rxr> mnemoc_: hm ? 23:02 < mnemoc_> rene@ooo is the only person i know who knows that mess 23:03 < mnemoc_> who understand it* 23:03 < rxr> ah - I feared you meant me .... 23:03 < mnemoc_> but he thinks everyone who ask something is dumb 23:03 < mnemoc_> nah 23:03 < mnemoc_> rene@ooo != rxr@t2 :) 23:03 < rxr> yeah - all fine ,-) 23:04 < mnemoc_> somehow he remind me SMP :) 23:04 < rxr> well - SMP would be nice to have at t2, no ? 23:06 < rxr> mnemoc_: should I send the large file flist fix to #rock-devel? - or would that cause flamewars ? 23:06 < mnemoc_> send it :) 23:07 < rxr> with a request to keep the T2 Project copyright notice intact on their next CopyPatch run ? 23:07 < mnemoc_> i miss jimmy too 23:07 < mnemoc_> no, let see what they do 23:09 < CIA-9> rene * r8306 /trunk/scripts/Emerge-Pkg: * fixed Emerge-Pkg for multi package emerges 23:11 < mnemoc_> rxr: what about evil-to-auto-update packages? 23:11 < rxr> yeah - I blacklsit them ... 23:11 < rxr> (some tiem later 23:11 < rxr> ) 23:11 < rxr> need to do work first ... 23:11 < mnemoc_> ok 23:11 < rxr> I just wanted to emerge bio2jack and xmms-jack to listen to music ... 23:12 < rxr> and that was a must fix for that ... 23:12 < mnemoc_> hehe 23:12 < mnemoc_> good motivation 23:12 < mnemoc_> jeru: have you reworked generic zope config? 23:13 < CIA-9> rene * r8307 /trunk/package/x11-modular/ (65 files in 22 dirs): (log message trimmed) 23:13 < CIA-9> * added xtrans (2005-04-16) 23:13 < CIA-9> * added render (2005-04-16) 23:13 < CIA-9> * added compositeext (2005-04-16) 23:13 < CIA-9> * added xextensions (2005-04-16) 23:13 < CIA-9> * added xext (2005-04-16) 23:13 < CIA-9> * added xcomposite (2005-04-16) 23:13 < mnemoc_> uhm? 23:13 < mnemoc_> 2.1? 23:13 < rxr> ^- installs into /opt/x11 by default ... 23:13 < rxr> mnemoc_: it does not harm ... 23:13 < mnemoc_> ok 23:13 < rxr> it is for eye candy - we might have it for advertising in 2.1 ... 23:14 < mnemoc_> ok 23:15 < rxr> if you need to you can O them by default ... 23:16 < mnemoc_> jeru: if they don't harm, no reason to have them optional 23:16 < mnemoc_> err 23:17 < mnemoc_> s/jeru/rxr/ 23:18 < rxr> I thought so ... 23:18 < rxr> good to see others are to fast on tab -> enter, too 23:19 < mnemoc_> rxr: thinking in emerge-for-dummy, i think we may symlink /etc/ROCK-CONFIG into ./config/default if it doesn't exist and run Config -oldconfig each time 23:20 < mnemoc_> i need an 'smarter' tab 23:22 < mnemoc_> or auto-oldconfig if it's 'old' (1 day) 23:23 < minto_> time for bed, my commit has to wait. gn8 all. 23:23 < mnemoc_> due to a lack of update on my config i got plone packages installed at / 23:23 < mnemoc_> minto_: don't forget to upload java files on my box :) 23:25 < CIA-9> rene * r8308 /trunk/package/www/mozilla/mozilla.desc: * updated mozilla (1.7.6 -> 1.7.7) 23:31 -!- minto_ [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 23:34 -!- ojh [~omer@71-34-244-75.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2 23:35 < rxr> mnemoc_: btw. I fixed the xvs checkout too smal problem 23:36 < mnemoc_> how? 23:36 < mnemoc_> ojh! long time without seeing you around 23:37 < mnemoc_> ojh: lazyfs and zeroinstall download problem was fixed, but they need a postlinux.conf to install their stuff 23:37 < mnemoc_> ojh: http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/ref/regressions.html#lazyfs and #zeroinstall for the current patches (not yet on trunk) 23:38 < mnemoc_> i have to go 23:38 < rxr> cu mnemoc_ 23:38 < jeru> cu mnemoc_ 23:38 < ojh> mnemoc: Been busy. I'm taking some time to try to compile the latest T2 beta. How well is the minimal target working? 23:38 < ojh> Latter :) 23:38 < rxr> hm - minimal should do quite well 23:40 < ojh> THX for the ZeroInstall feedback, taking a look at the link. 23:42 < ojh> Mmmm, the error on LazyFS is "The file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h does not exist.", is the kernel src not in /usr/src/linux/ ? 23:43 < ojh> I can specify using "--with-kernel" as a configure option. 23:44 < rxr> does lazy FS buld a kernel module 23:44 < rxr> ? 23:44 < ojh> Yes. 23:45 < ojh> It is a file system. 23:47 < rxr> aha - so we need to convert it to postlinux.conf - so the module is built for any kernel 23:47 < rxr> I can do it ... 23:48 < ojh> THX :) 23:57 < rxr> http://www.apple.com/macosx/newfeatures/over200.html --- Log closed Mon Apr 18 00:00:37 2005