--- Log opened Sat Apr 16 00:00:04 2005
00:00 < jeru> so you can laugh about your own lies ?
00:00 < mnemoc> i didn't touch linux code :p
00:00  * jeru pulls mnemocs other ear
00:00 < mnemoc> hehe
00:05  * jeru hates building the masses of kernel modules
00:09 < jeru> mnemoc: have you ever worked for SCO ?
00:12 < jeru> rxr: what about the egg-bread ?  yet eliminated ?
00:13 < mnemoc> jeru: what?!
00:13 < jeru> <mnemoc> .oO( i commit copyright notes too )o
00:13 < jeru> <mnemoc> i didn't touch linux code :p
00:13 < jeru> hehe
00:14 < jeru> bad trap :D
00:15 < rxr> yep
00:15 < jeru> rxr: what yep ?...  seems that was a quite big bread !
00:16 < jeru> rxr: custom static kernel builds doesn't work anymore in T2
00:17 < rxr> nope - I was already haning around here - and consumed a glass of wine
00:17 < jeru> rxr: same kernel config works if I build the kernel manually
00:17 < jeru> rxr: prost !
00:19 < jeru> rxr: my grandma drinks one glas of red wine a day ... and she
00:19 < jeru> 's 94
00:19 < jeru> so seems to be quite good :)
00:21 < rxr> that one was white wine, soo ...
00:21 < jeru> it will decrease your time on earth :)
00:23 < rxr> ooo still building
00:23 < jeru> rxr: what can I check for regarding the static kernel issue ?
00:24 < rxr> ouhm - log
00:24 < rxr> lock at the log of the linux files ..
00:24 < rxr> or just read the code and think what conditional might be defect or missing
00:25 < jeru> >jeru< this is from the kernel build log ->
00:25 < jeru> >jeru<   LD      .tmp_vmlinux1
00:25 < jeru> >jeru< kernel/built-in.o(.text+0x1ac6d): In function `proc_virtual_readdir':
00:25 < jeru> >jeru< : undefined reference to `get_xid_list'
00:25 < jeru> >jeru< kernel/built-in.o(.text+0x1afbd): In function `proc_vnet_readdir':
00:25 < jeru> >jeru< : undefined reference to `get_nid_list'
00:25 < jeru> >jeru< make: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 1
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00:33 -!- menomc changed the topic of #t2 to:  T2 | 2.1.0-beta4 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/
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00:39 < menomc> yahoo! i passed my licenciature (bachilor?) exam! (licenciature=4-years-engineering)
00:43 < rxr> ooo
00:43 < rxr> still building happily
00:45 < menomc> did you patches ooo for un-sane envs like yours or you cleaned your env?
00:45 < menomc> patched*
00:45 < rxr> cleaned
00:46 < rxr> wha?
00:46 < rxr> it is building stlport ?
00:50 < menomc> cleaned your /-ld problems
00:50 < rxr> yep
00:50 < rxr> still building stl port 
00:51 < rxr> one ooo builds, we should really try hard to get rid of the biggest crap included in ooo
00:51 < rxr> e.g. we have stlport as package ...
00:51 < menomc> yes stlport built
00:52 < menomc> on line 1011 of 98971 my build log
00:52 < CIA-9> rene * r8282 /trunk/scripts/Emerge-Pkg: 
00:52 < CIA-9> * made Emerge-Pkg exorbitantly more useful by sorting the resulting
00:52 < CIA-9>  build list by priority ... *g*
00:53 < rxr> my log is 2.4MB in size right now ...
00:53 < rxr> I niced my background Build-Target now ...
00:53 < menomc> 14M here
00:53 < rxr> so OOO fails sooner ...
00:56 < rxr> ok - /me bed - cu in the morning - as usual ...
00:57 < menomc> :)
00:57 < menomc> gn8 rene
01:19 < menomc> am i alive?
01:39 < menomc> jeru: are you here?
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02:02 < CIA-9> amery * r8283 /trunk/package/xfce4/ (31 files in 31 dirs): * injected .cache file to package/xfce4 packages
02:12 < CIA-9> amery * r8284 /trunk/package/x86/ (11 files in 11 dirs): * injected .cache files into package/x86/*
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09:17 < rxr> re
09:57 < rxr> my OOO faild due to a old pyton and non shared python ...
09:58 < rxr> I continue the build manually - and it is now @ 85% of mnemoc's log
09:58 < rxr> Building project transex3
10:15 < rxr> mnemoc: my OOO build seems to be past the point where yours failed in the log due to gconf ...
10:42 < minto_> rxr: I currently am adding Sun Java Application Server. I know you don't care about java, but maybe you can help me out here. I need to check if an installed version of java is good enough. Checking package version is I think a no go, since I have to check all available java JRE (4 currently). Instead I plan to check /etc/profile.d/jre (used by all JRE's) to get the version (java -version)...
10:42 < minto_> ...from the installed JRE. So far so good. Now it return for instance 'java version "1.4.2"' how can I filter this string so it only leaves me the version number. In short how do I do regular expressions in bash?
10:45 < rxr> well either use cut -d \" -f 2 or so
10:45 < rxr> or sed to match and substitute ...
10:46 < minto_> Hmm, I'll have a look at sed. But first I check if the other JRE's give the same output.
10:47 < rxr> sed 's/.*"\(.*\)".*/\1/'
10:48 < minto_> Cool, thanx
10:49 < rxr> (untested)
10:49 < minto_> I tested, and it was fine
10:50 < rxr> ,-)
11:08 < CIA-9> lars * r8285 /trunk/scripts/Emerge-Pkg: * Fixed a typo (vebose --> verbose).
11:16 < CIA-9> lars * r8286 /trunk/scripts/Emerge-Pkg: * Fixed a forgotten parameter in call to var_append().
11:22 < rxr> I like bug reporting by fixing commits *g*
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11:29 < jeru> bonjour :)
11:30 < rxr> hi jeru 
11:30 < jeru> hi rxr
11:31 < minto_> hi jeru :-)
11:31 < jeru> hi minto_ :)
12:04 < jeru> rxr: seems that a not checked kernel option for vserver was the reason for not building a custom static kernel
12:06 < jeru> I think I will also switch from runit to minit on the server
12:58 < CIA-9> sebastian * r8287 /trunk/package/www/firefox/firefox.desc: * updated firefox (1.0.2 -> 1.0.3)
13:13 < rxr> I had that scheduled too
13:13 < rxr> but missed the download so fg
13:13 < rxr> ar
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14:01 -!- Topic set by menomc [] [Sat Apr 16 00:33:34 2005]
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14:06 < jeru> hi sepp 
14:07 < sepp> hello :)
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15:04 < rxr_> re
15:04 -!- You're now known as rxr
15:06 < rxr> ooo still building ...
15:08 < rxr> stuff in ooo that make me wonder big times:
15:08 < rxr> boost
15:08 < rxr> berkeleydb
15:08 < rxr> freetype
15:08 < rxr> libxml2
15:09 < rxr> postprocess ???sane ?
15:09 < rxr> bitstream_bera_fonts ???
15:10 < rxr> ok - sane is only one header ...
15:10 < rxr> nontheles
15:10 < rxr> s
15:10 < rxr> full of crap ...
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16:21 < menomc> moin!
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16:22 < menomc> rxr: i told you ooo build more than 170 third-party packages and we do have most of them
16:23 < menomc> rxr: linux-header glibc binutils gcc bash coreutils findutils grep sed tar gawk util-linux net-tools <--- to emerge apr
16:23 < rxr> I can imagine
16:23 < rxr> mnemoc: ooo bulds past cour gconf or what it was error ...
16:24 < rxr> still building ...
16:25 < rxr> I just depart KNOPPIX - it is damn ugly ...
16:25 < menomc> yep
16:27 < menomc> .oO( why #t2 is now on win 6 instead of win 5??! )o
16:29 < rxr> and why does my tab nick completion do not work anymore ?
16:29 < rxr> mnemoc: when can we branch t
16:29 < rxr> 2.1 off of trunk?
16:30 < menomc> i think we should branch 2.2 for you keeping the effort on 2.1 until... rc2?
16:31 < menomc> there is big fix-work pending for 2.1
16:31 < menomc> jeru: ?
16:33 < CIA-9> amery * r8288 /trunk/package/x11-ng/ (9 files in 7 dirs): * injected .cache files and copyright note to package/x11-ng
16:35 < jeru> mnemoc: ?
16:35 < jeru> :)
16:46 < rxr> knoppix is horrible - I have no idea why the folks hyped it that much ...
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16:48 < rxr> mnemoc: why not branch 2.1 as we would normally do anyway - why would you like to create a 2.2 branch when we have to switch them some time later - and I think it will be a bit confusing to work with a 2.2 branch and trunk as 2.1 preparing ...
16:53 < tilix> What`s the internationalization level in T2? Will it have any problems with the cyrillic alphabet?
16:56 < rxr> the development frontends are all english
16:56 < rxr> under X I think all shoudl work as expected ....
16:56 < tilix> full UTF8 encoding?
16:59 < rxr> I do not know about problems ...
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18:01 < menomc> re
18:01 < menomc> rxr: because i want to fixing 2.1 stuff too :)
18:03 < menomc> rxr: Emerge-Pkg doesn't support multiple emerge anymore
18:06 < menomc> rxr: will we preserve both var/adm/cksum and var/adm/md5sum ?
18:07 < menomc> rxr: can you take a look into e17/{entrance,e-utils} problem?
18:19 < CIA-9> rene * r8289 /trunk/package/audio/bio2jack/bio2jack.desc: * updated bio2jack (0.5 -> 0.7)
18:20 < CIA-9> rene * r8290 /trunk/package/audio/xmms-jack/xmms-jack.desc: * updated xmms-jack (0.11 -> 0.14)
18:20 < rxr> mnemoc: fix in trunk - merge into branch ...
18:21 < rxr> I take a look at Emerge as well as e* ...
18:21 < CIA-9> rene * r8291 /trunk/package/base/hdparm/hdparm.desc: * updated hdparm (5.9 -> 6.0)
18:21  * rxr shortly off (some minutes getting food)
18:21 < menomc> rxr: then we can branch when releasing rc1 :) .... or do you want them before that?
18:21 < rxr> I have stuff queued that is post 2.1
18:22 < rxr> like 100% modular kernels (all IDE, SCSI, Net driers and FSs)
18:22 < rxr> and udev initramfs ...
18:22 < menomc> branches/2.2-wannabe :p
18:22  * rxr pulls mnemocs 3rd ear ...
18:23 < menomc> hehe
18:23 < rxr> I think we should regularly branch 2.1 soon
18:23 < rxr> and I help keeping it in sync with fixes ...
18:23 < menomc> we need rc1 soon
18:23 < rxr> cu soon
18:24 < menomc> !> usr/lib/libdb_cxx.so: bdb
18:24 < menomc> !> Due to previous errors.
18:24 < menomc> -> $root/var/adm/logs/9-bdb.out -> 9-bdb.err
18:24 < menomc> bdb is sharing with bdb! cool
18:29 < menomc> go apache
18:29 < menomc> err
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19:11 < rxr> re
19:12 < rxr> oh - now OOO is building some kind of "core" ...
19:12 < rxr> core/undo ...
19:23 < rxr> core/basflt
19:23 < rxr> core/filter/excel
19:23 < rxr> ...
19:23 < rxr> hm - when building another Target in parallel my Athlon needs over a day to build OOO ...
19:25 < rxr> my x86 fully modular kernel is only 1.5MB in size - compared to the 2.2 before ...
19:25 < menomc> how is hotplug++?
19:26 < rxr> mnemoc: what do you think about implementing the per package, tared ccache as minto proposed ?
19:27 < rxr> I think I'll have to write hotplug++ or so up in the next days
19:27 < rxr> since dbus/hal needs udev ...
19:27 < menomc> will that really reduce ccache size?
19:27 < menomc> and increase matching
19:27 < menomc> ?
19:27 < rxr> mnemoc: maybe drop devfs in 2.2 ?
19:28 < menomc> yes
19:28 < rxr> it will not work for the next generation desktop environments and disappear soon
19:28 < menomc> but i'm worried about 2.1/devfs
19:28 < rxr> why ?
19:28 < rxr> well - those people are right ccache per package will make the ccache in use quite small - and more efficient ...
19:28 < menomc> because 'stable' 2.6 will drop it during 2.1 lifecycle
19:28 < rxr> are you sure they will drop?
19:29 < rxr> as I see it they will not drop it in 2.6
19:29 < menomc> they claim to
19:29 < rxr> and if yes we could freeze the 2.6 in 2.1 and only apply security fixes ...
19:29 < menomc> ok
19:29 < menomc> 2.1=devfs, 2.2=udev
19:30 < rxr> and when to branch?
19:30 < rxr> I would like branching this weekend ...
19:31 < jeru> this looks quite funny -> boot/vmlinuz_2.6.11-vs1.9.5.7-dist-skas3-v9-pre1
19:31 < rxr> btw. this means no 2.4 in 2.2 ... ?
19:31 < menomc> i fear to loose you if i branch 2.1 before rc1
19:31 < rxr> no - you will not
19:31 < menomc> .oO
19:32 < rxr> .oO?
19:32 < menomc> if we support linux24/devfs and linux26/udev we will be closer to the dreamed kernel-independent framework
19:32 < rxr> regarding 2.4 ?
19:32 < menomc> yes
19:32 < rxr> what do you mean with kernel independant framework ?
19:33 < menomc> T2 BSD, T2 elks, T2 darwin, T2 linux24, T2 linux26
19:33 < menomc> T2 hurd
19:33 < rxr> well - some of them are platforms - that will alter quite a lot ...
19:34 < rxr> but yes - we could continue compiling 2.4 with devfs ...
19:34 < menomc> a tiny step, but an step
19:34 < menomc> the first step
19:35 < menomc> do we really want lx24/lx26 (dual) machines?
19:36 < menomc> we could build the same target for different kernels
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19:41 < rxr> mnemoc: ? hell no - you definetly want multiple kernel packages for the same target
19:41 < rxr> hi root 
19:42 < menomc> linux24 and linux26 are friendly, but what about hurd? or BSD and darwin?
19:42 < rxr> menomc: can you nick to your real nick - now I know why mn<tab> does not work
19:42 < menomc> :)
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19:42 < rxr> that is what I meant with platform
19:42 < rxr> that completely alters the ABI and thus only the matching kernels will be built and the userapce built for that selected platform/ABI
19:43 < mnemoc> ack
19:44 < mnemoc> rxr: feel free to branch 2.1.0 this weekend but please send a mail with a deadline for people to add whatever they want on 2.1 before it
19:47 < mnemoc> /branches/2.1-stable shall be api/abi/config/prefix stable including scripts and framework structure
19:47 < mnemoc> even if it's not frozen
19:48 < jeru> if I use var_append patchfiles the patch should automatically copied to linux26-patches, right ?
19:48 < mnemoc> yes
19:48 < jeru> but why the h*ll the skas-patch isn't there
19:49 < mnemoc> XTRACE?
19:51 < mnemoc> rxr: can you take a look into Create-ISO to be able to add two builds of the same target on the same CD?
19:55 < rxr> oh - and we need dynamic ID extration in the installer and co ..
19:55 < rxr> the harcoded name hurts ...
19:55 < mnemoc> yep
19:58 < rxr> what you case do you have for two builds on a ISO?
19:58 < rxr> e.g. what should I keep care of when improving it ...
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20:17 < mnemoc> rxr: will we preserve both var/adm/cksum and var/adm/md5sum ?
20:18 < mnemoc> rxr: mnemosyne, mnemosyne-desktop and mnemosyne-router fit in the same disk
20:18 < mnemoc> and mnemosyne-ldap, etc...
20:18 < mnemoc> same target, same arch, different builds
20:19 < mnemoc> different '$config' mainly
20:27 < mnemoc> rxr: checking foo ... Not installed. Added. <--- this is evil too, because some deps are not mandatory
20:27 < mnemoc> rxr: damn.... i don't know how to solve Emerge problem :(
20:31 < rxr> mnemoc: maybe we should review rock history why both exist
20:31 < rxr> although I carry much of rock history in my brain I have no idea ...
20:32 < rxr> maybe md5sum was added later for less coliding sums ...
20:32 < mnemoc> on 2.2 i would like to compress those files
20:32 < rxr> what files ?
20:32 < mnemoc> var/adm
20:32 < mnemoc> yes, i also think adm/cksum is legacy
20:34 < mnemoc> thinking in embeded, expanded plain-text var/adm/*/* is an unneeded overheaded
20:36 < rxr> in my embedded those files are not even there ...
20:37 < mnemoc> but we could have adm/package and adm/flist if they were compressed
20:37 < rxr> OOO still building ...
20:38 < rxr> mnemoc: btw for the modular kernel udev project I'll use a shell initrd
20:38 < rxr> I guess I'll port that to the installer in parallel
20:40 < mnemoc> :D
21:04 < jeru> do we wanna have such kernel names -> -skas2.6.11-v9-pre1-vs1.9.5 ? I guess not
21:05 < mnemoc> skas extraversions needs to be fixed
21:05 < mnemoc> -skas9p1-vs1.9.5
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21:06 < mnemoc> router + server + desktop for a client
21:06 < mnemoc> err
21:06 < mnemoc> damn scroll
21:07 < mnemoc> i have been doing crap the whole day
21:07 < jeru> mnemoc: then I'd say -skasv9p1-vs1.9.5
21:07 < jeru> hmmm or not ... ;)
21:07 < jeru> damn versioning ...
21:07 < mnemoc> skas maintainer have to decide how to name his extraversion
21:11 < rxr> mnemoc: what crap ?
21:11 < rxr> oh OOO broke ...
21:19 < rxr> ehrm
21:19 < mnemoc> ?
21:19 < rxr> my OOO fl_wrapper.rlog is 2GB in size
21:19 < mnemoc> oh
21:20 < rxr> and I know get File size limit exceeded (coredumped) on any executable invocation ...
21:20 < rxr> maybe the wrapper does not use large file support ?
21:20 < mnemoc> on 2.2 i want fl_wrapper client/server via fifo 
21:21 < rxr> yep
21:21 < rxr> file size 2^31 ...
21:21 < rxr> ok - I hack the flist wrapper to use LARGE_FILE ...
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21:28 < rxr> mnemoc: do you agree to fork off 2.1 when I continue merging and fixing into that branch ?
21:28 < rxr> mnemoc: maybe your OOO build formerly also only broke due to this large file thing ?
21:29 < jsaw_> fl_wrapper directory - instead of file?
21:29 < mnemoc> <mnemoc> rxr: feel free to branch 2.1.0 this weekend but please send a mail with a deadline for people to add whatever they want on 2.1 before it <mnemoc> /branches/2.1-stable shall be api/abi/config/prefix stable including scripts and framework structure <mnemoc> even if it's not frozen
21:33 < rxr> jsaw_: directory and then?
21:33 < rxr> jsaw_: hi - btw
21:34 < jsaw_> hi all :)
21:35 < jsaw_> rxr: flist rlog contains the files opened for reading, right?
21:35 < jsaw_> rxr: if so, why not simply do sth. like "mkdir(dirname); touch(file);"
21:35 < jeru> hi jsaw_ :)
21:35 < jsaw_> hi jeru 
21:36 < mnemoc> inodes are expensive ;)
21:36 < mnemoc> i think client/server via pipe and processing on the fly is better
21:37 < jsaw_> mnemoc: well, I think if a file is open multiple times while compiling, the file gets larger the the number inodes used - or am I totally off here
21:38 < rxr> I like the processing on the fly- with packages as large as OOO processing 2GB++ takes a lot of time ...
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21:38 < mnemoc> about one hour when OOo took 15H to fail here
21:38 < jsaw_> with mkdir/touch the processing is obsolete...
21:39 < rxr> jsaw_: the command and such are logged ...
21:39 < jsaw_> at, ic.
21:39 < rxr> so you need a mangling to get that into the filename ...
21:39 < jsaw_> s/at/ah/
22:00 < mnemoc> .oO
22:06  * mnemoc moving home to lunch
22:06 < rxr> .oO?
22:07 < jeru> cu mnemoc
22:12 < CIA-9> rene * r8292 /trunk/misc/tools-source/ (fl_wrapper.c fl_wrapper.c.sh): 
22:13 < CIA-9> * implemented 64bit support for large log files in fl_wrapper.c{,.sh}
22:13 < CIA-9>  for file modification logs exceeding 2GB - such as OpenOffice builds
22:13 < rxr> OOO build continued ...
22:24 < mnemoc> re
22:24 < mnemoc> Build-Pkg -resume :)
22:25 < mnemoc> doing a transaction log based on hook_eval that would be easy
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22:36 < mnemoc> rxr: did your 2G log build passed shell/gconf thing ?
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22:37 < keinek> hi everbody
22:37 < keinek> :)
22:38 < mnemoc> hi keinek 
22:38 < keinek> hi mnemoc 
22:38 < keinek> today i feel so good.
22:39 < mnemoc> good
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22:42 < mnemoc> rxr: what did you decide about ccache?
22:48 < rxr> nothing ...
22:48 < mnemoc> ic
22:48 < rxr> mnemoc: shell/gconf passed thie morning without any tweak ...
22:48 < mnemoc> uhm
22:55 < rxr> in the meantime my flist rlog is 2.1GB ...
22:57 < mnemoc> oh
23:00 < rxr> you name it ...
23:00  * rxr showering and crawling into bed ...
23:00 < rxr> cu in the early morning as usual these days ...
23:01 < jeru> cu rxr and sleep well
23:01 < mnemoc> cu rxr 
23:06 < javito> greetings
23:06 < javito> quick and dirty
23:06 < mnemoc> ?
23:06 < javito> is there an sparc ISO for me to play?
23:06 < mnemoc> nope, sorry
23:06 < javito> thanks
23:07 < mnemoc> but you can play with the kit on your sparc
23:07 < mnemoc> and create the ISO
23:07 < javito> that would be my next question mnemoc :-)
23:07 < javito> thanks again
23:07 < javito> is t2 worth than the other one.. you know...
23:07 < mnemoc> :)
23:08 < mnemoc> to me, yes :)
23:08 < javito> I think the other one is way too much burocratic
23:08 < jeru> :)
23:08 < javito> I see, old-e Mike told me that
23:09 < mnemoc> they have only one commiter
23:09 < javito> a pitty
23:09 < javito> well Im actually compiling a sparc64 linux kernel
23:09 < mnemoc> :)
23:10 < javito> is there a rsync server for grabbing the sources?
23:10 < mnemoc> svn only
23:10 < javito> douh
23:13 < javito> ok, gonna give it a try
23:14 < javito> see whats with it
23:16 < mnemoc> javito: try trunk for now, but in about two days 2.1 will be branched out of trunk
23:16 < javito> ok, appreciate your advice
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