T2 IRC Log: 2005-04-08
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--- Log opened Fri Apr 08 00:00:03 2005
00:35 < CIA-9> amery * r8086 /trunk/scripts/functions:
00:35 < CIA-9> * improved bz2filename to support .gpg files
00:35 < CIA-9> * injected copyright note to scripts/functions
00:50 < CIA-9> amery * r8087 /trunk/scripts/Download: * improved Download to unsign .gpg files
00:51 < _jeru> mnemoc: .gpg files inside a tar ?
00:51 < mnemoc> nope
00:51 < mnemoc> tar inside .gpg
00:51 < mnemoc> lazyfs and zeroinstall
00:51 < _jeru> ah
00:51 < mnemoc> it's very weak, but it works
00:52 < _jeru> hehe
01:07 < mnemoc> opensourcecms.org
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01:17 * mnemoc kicks the can he use as desktop
03:02 < mnemoc> 21:01:46] <@skwashd> lol .... Is Avant Browser a secure browser?
03:02 < mnemoc> [21:01:47] <@skwashd> Yes, Avant Browser is secure. Since it's based on Internet Explorer, Avant Browser is as secure as Internet Explorer.
03:02 < _jeru> what that sh*t ?
03:03 < mnemoc> a paste :)
03:05 < _jeru> a paste of sh*t ?
03:05 < mnemoc> a paste from #phpgroupware
03:05 < mnemoc> :)
03:06 < _jeru> I knew it before ... shit
03:07 < mnemoc> :)
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03:58 < mnemoc> if [ $autogen -eq 1 -a \( -f configure.in -o -f configure.ac \) ] ; then <-- do we really need those configure files to run aclocal?
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04:02 < mnemoc> _jeru: i'll do an 'evil' change on snort
04:02 < mnemoc> _jeru: i'll use $sysconfdir instead of $prefix/etc
04:03 < mnemoc> _jeru: what means /etc/opt/snort instead of /opt/snort/etc
04:05 < CIA-9> chris * r8088 /trunk/package/zope/i18nfolder/i18nfolder.desc: * added forgotten checksum
04:05 < CIA-9> amery * r8089 /trunk/package/security/snort/ (snort.conf snort.init):
04:05 < CIA-9> * cleaned snort .conf
04:05 < CIA-9> * improved snort by using pkgprefix
04:13 < CIA-9> chris * r8090 /trunk/package/zope/ploneicalendar/ (. ploneicalendar.conf ploneicalendar.desc): * added PloneiCallendar (1.0)
04:13 < mnemoc> :)
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04:31 < keinek> hi
04:31 < sparc-kly> keinek remeber t2-es :P
04:31 < sparc-kly> remember *
04:31 < sparc-kly> lol
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06:49 < rxr> re
06:49 < mnemoc> hi rxr
06:50 < rxr> moin mnemoc !
07:25 * rxr -> uni
07:25 < rxr> cu later
07:26 < mnemoc> cu rxr
08:39 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2
08:48 < minto> Good morning all
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11:04 < rxr> moin
11:11 < rxr> Ecasound 2.4.1
11:13 < CIA-9> chris * r8091 /trunk/package/security/vserver/vserver.desc: * updated vserver (0.30.203 -> 0.30.204)
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11:13 < _jeru> moin
11:15 < rxr> moin jsaw
11:15 < rxr> _jeru: even ,-)
11:16 < valentin> moin
11:17 < rxr> Linux 2.6.11.7
11:18 < rxr> moin valentin
11:18 < rxr> valentin: we have unionsfs now ...
11:18 < rxr> unionfs of course ...
11:19 < rxr> oh - and I implemented orphaned files tracking this morning ...
11:19 < rxr> Build-Pkg | 20 +++++++++++++++-----
11:19 < rxr> 1 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
11:19 < _jeru> moin rxr, valentin :)
11:20 < _jeru> seems that linus doesn't like svn
11:21 < rxr> jsaw: svn does not work for the kernel - because linus wants full control and only himself to commit svn will be no help there ...
11:21 < rxr> it is just the scenario that hinders subversion to be used ...
11:21 < rxr> the linux kernel is a cathedral - not a bazzar ...
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11:22 < valentin> rxr: we can point linus to submaster
11:22 < _jeru> haha :)
11:22 < rxr> no - I do not want him falling at the floor laughing - we need him coding ...
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11:23 < rxr> I mean - after that quick hack he will never fully recover ...
11:25 < valentin> rxr: did you hear the helicopters last week ?
11:26 < valentin> there were much helicopters over berlin the last days.
11:26 < _jeru> valentin: ack
11:27 < valentin> today i hear in the news that they were experimenting with cameras to hunt down sprayers
11:27 < _jeru> hmmm ... sprayers ;)
11:27 < valentin> wtf ? now they are monitoring citizens with infrared cameras in the night ? to catch sprayers ???
11:28 < _jeru> that's the offical story I think
11:28 < valentin> if that news had been a week earlier i would have mistaken it for an aprils fool
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11:29 < valentin> anybody knows jet set radio ?
11:29 < _jeru> nope
11:30 < rxr> no
11:30 < _jeru> valentin .... powered by dj wowereit ? ;)
11:30 < rxr> I only listen to duetschland funk / radio or RBB Info or so ...
11:31 < rxr> and of course my favourite mp3 stream delivered our of france ...
11:32 < valentin> no - jet set radio is no radio
11:32 < _jeru> more :)
11:36 < valentin> http://www.gamecrazy.com/games/game.aspx?id=659
11:36 < valentin> the international title was jet grind radio
11:37 < valentin> they use helicopters and police tanks to hunt down sprayers, too
11:37 < rxr> lol
11:37 < valentin> i always thought that would be fiction
11:37 < _jeru> valentin so you know what's Otto is playing ;)
11:38 < valentin> in jet grind radio, you play the sprayers
11:38 < valentin> your main goal is to tag all targets in the level within a given time limit without beeing caught or shot down by the police
11:39 < _jeru> so so ... a "player" he is :)
11:39 < rxr> I thought he is plaing slamming the head against some wall until no brain is left at all ...
11:39 < valentin> he is playing innenminister
11:40 < _jeru> what brain ?
11:40 < rxr> does this include head slamming ...
11:40 < _jeru> hehe :D
11:40 < rxr> jsaw: yeah - I played too much
11:40 < _jeru> jeru
11:40 < rxr> he of course ...
11:40 < _jeru> the last I played spontanously was GTA
11:41 < rxr> formula one grand prix 3 was nice:
11:41 < rxr> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/rene/photos/gp3/gallery.html
11:41 < _jeru> I liked to drive through the city in a Hummer listening music
11:42 < _jeru> rxr: do you have a steering wheel ?
11:42 < rxr> nope
11:42 < rxr> only some old joystick - hoever I once build pedals myself ...
11:42 < rxr> building a sophisticated set of peddals and wheel was on my TODO ...
11:42 < _jeru> hehe :)
11:42 < rxr> however some 2GB file limit once cut my TODO off ...
11:43 < rxr> Build-Pkg | 20 +++++++++++++++-----
11:43 < rxr> 1 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
11:43 < rxr> ok - I commit that ...
11:43 < _jeru> rxr: a wheel really increases fun level
11:43 < rxr> pedals already did ...
11:43 < rxr> and running that windows game under linux was a nice satisfaction also ...
11:43 < _jeru> yeah ... of course with pedals
11:43 < rxr> just that 2 graphic issues have been a bit annoying ...
11:44 < rxr> my last ones have been built out of lego technik ...
11:44 < valentin> rxr: if you find that is satisfaction, you can come over and get harry potter running
11:44 < rxr> but they alrkeady rocked ...a
11:44 < rxr> valentin: is that my wife or yours ...
11:44 < _jeru> :D
11:44 < valentin> is that my t2 package or our your package ?
11:44 < rxr> gp3 cost me a whole night ... - only the playing thereafter was fun ..
11:44 < valentin> :p
11:45 < valentin> i spend some days
11:45 < valentin> during the last year
11:45 < valentin> but i have a partition left on the athlons hd, so i think i will just install a minimal windows for gaming
11:46 * _jeru thinks: these linux "fuzzies" doing everything not to switch the OS! taking all pain :)
11:46 < rxr> valentin: ?!?!?
11:46 * rxr kicks valentin ...
11:47 < valentin> rxr: why should i speend a week with that crappy emulator ?
11:47 < rxr> valentin: must I tell the BSA that you are going to install an unlicensed copy of Windows ??
11:47 < rxr> okok - I come over and take a look ...
11:47 < _jeru> rxr: this my weapon to if my collegues flamming about linux ;)
11:47 < _jeru> too
11:48 < rxr> valentin: I hope this nice Slot A athlon never has seen windows code - and I hope for the nicely loving CPU that it stays so ..
11:48 < rxr> valentin: imaiagine it gets a heart attack on it's aging days ...
11:49 < _jeru> seems that rxr really takes care
11:49 < valentin> okok
11:49 < valentin> :)
11:49 < CIA-9> rene * r8092 /tags/2.1.0-rc1/: * prepared the 2.1.0-rc1 tag
11:50 < CIA-9> rene * r8093 /trunk/scripts/Build-Pkg: * introduced var/adm/olists to keep track of orphaned files
11:56 < _jeru> valentin: head line on Radio1: Schilly agains sprayes! ;)
11:56 < _jeru> against sprayers
11:59 < valentin> when there is nothing left todo for a minister .....
12:02 < rxr> Build-Pkg | 7 +++----
12:02 < rxr> 1 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
12:02 < valentin> the game is set in a Neo-Orwellian future where the teen-agers of Tokyo are being subjugated by the government.
12:02 < valentin> so we live in 1984
12:03 < CIA-9> rene * r8094 /trunk/scripts/Build-Pkg:
12:03 < CIA-9> * optmized olist creation by removing some redundant sed and cut
12:03 < CIA-9> invocations
12:03 < valentin> rene: moving them out of a loop ?
12:03 < _jeru> valentin: already heared that Otto wants to have it country wide
12:03 < rxr> valentin: no
12:04 < rxr> valentin: removing at all - from linear control flow
12:04 < rxr> but on a ooo flist it may save you 5 seconds ...
12:04 < rxr> (or even more - no idea - no ooo flist yet)
12:11 < valentin> breakfast
12:14 < rxr> ehrm - lunch here ...
12:16 < CIA-9> chris * r8095 /trunk/package/zope/i18nlayer/ (. i18nlayer.conf i18nlayer.desc): * added I18NLayer for Zope/Plone (0.5.6)
12:20 < CIA-9> rene * r8096 /trunk/scripts/parse-config: * bumbed version to 2.1.0-rc2
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12:28 < CIA-9> chris * r8097 /trunk/package/zope/plonelanguagetool/ (. plonelanguagetool.conf plonelanguagetool.desc): * added PloneLanguageTool (0.5)
12:44 < _jeru> how can I filtering out {arch} directories while installing a package ?
12:45 < valentin> had my question concering temporary files been answerded ?
12:46 < _jeru> or could we even filter it like .svn directories ?
12:50 < rxr> valentin: no
12:50 < rxr> valentin: what is your quesiton ?
12:53 < valentin> is there an official $tmpdir or something for temporary files in t2 ?
12:53 < valentin> or should i hardcode /tmp
12:54 < rxr> mktemp is common practice ..
12:56 < valentin> ok
13:06 < CIA-9> rene * r8098 /trunk/package/base/linux-header/linux-header.conf: * fixed linux-header for in-system builds ...
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13:29 < _jeru> have to go ... cu later
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13:52 < rxr> teset
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14:06 < rxr_> ok
14:06 * rxr_ now in 2.6.11.6
14:06 < rxr_> Linux version 2.6.11.6-dist (root@haudraufinix) (gcc version 3.4.3) #1 Thu Apr 7 23:24:24 CEST 2005
14:06 < rxr_> and DVB-T working - out of the box - all auto detected and firmware loaded by T2 hardware detection ...
14:07 < rxr_> my farther usually needs way more time to get his DVB-S card working under this OS called Windows ...
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15:03 < rxr> valentin: I reactivated one of my PPC embedded boards ...
15:03 < rxr> I plan to set the 5 port beast up as primary router here ...
15:03 < rxr> to save engergy costs due to the power consuming rs6k ...
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15:04 < rxr> it will run from a 128MB compact flash card ...
15:04 < _jeru> re
15:04 < rxr> hi jsaw
15:04 < rxr> _jeru: even ..
15:04 < rxr> damn
15:04 < _jeru> jeru :D
15:04 * rxr must not that fast on
15:05 * _jeru thinks rxr have to make up his mind ;)
15:05 < minto> hi _jeru
15:05 < _jeru> hi minto
15:05 < rxr> hi minto
15:05 < minto> hi rxr
15:05 < _jeru> so what are you talking about regarding booting from a flash card ?
15:06 * minto is listening carefully
15:07 < rxr> just that I resurrected my PPC board ...
15:07 < rxr> 5 ethernet ports ,-)
15:07 < rxr> for use as primary router here - my rs6k is consuming too much energy ...
15:07 < rxr> I only wrote that it will use a 128MB flash as root ...
15:07 < minto> Oehh, rxr gets big bills
15:08 < _jeru> rxr: what board do you use ? sounds interesting !
15:09 < minto> _jeru: do you have that Compact Flash script cleaned up yet. Minto is still curious.
15:09 < rxr> oehm - motorola compact pci ..
15:09 < rxr> got them during rock linux times from a US telecomunication company ...
15:10 < _jeru> ahh cool
15:10 < rxr> the 4 port ethernet PCI mezzanine board alone is quite expensive ...
15:13 < _jeru> the small boxes from http://www.soekris.com/ are also quite interesting
15:15 < _jeru> ^ but no PPC boards
15:17 < _jeru> rxr: what do you think about the soekris boxes ?
15:19 < _jeru> minto: have not cleaned up my CF build scripts yet, sorry
15:22 < _jeru> made a prototype of a bridging fw / IDS system on a 1U appliance with 6 interfaces with it
15:37 < rxr> I once had a tiny 486 or so board in my hands one day ...
15:37 < _jeru> but ?
15:40 < rxr> nothing ... ,-)
15:40 < rxr> just scrolled over the side ,-)
15:40 < _jeru> hehe :)
15:41 < _jeru> thinks clifford had a soekris box for testing ... at least there is an article about it on rocklinux.org
15:44 < rxr> yep
15:44 < _jeru> rxr: but I guess you had no hands on it :)
15:46 < rxr> well - on one I had - the OpenBSD guy lent one to clifford - that was the 486 board I had in my hands
15:46 < rxr> later I think clifford brought an own one - but I do not remeber off hand what it was ...
15:49 < _jeru> rxr: and what was you overall impression of these boards
15:50 < rxr> well - I did not used them - I think some open bsd people are favouring them ...
15:51 < rxr> if the feature set (cpu and speed and such) are ok for you, ...
15:51 < _jeru> I guess you PPC board has better performance
15:51 < _jeru> your
15:53 < CIA-9> chris * r8099 /trunk/package/zope/plonepopoll/ (. plonepopoll.conf plonepopoll.desc): * added PlonePopoll (2.3)
15:53 < _jeru> rxr: how can I filter out {arch} dirs from arch versioning system ?
15:54 < _jeru> where is this done for svn and cvs ?
15:54 < rxr> jsaw: what ?
15:55 < _jeru> I've a package with an directory "{arch}" in it, which seems to belong to arch versioning system
15:55 < rxr> what do you want to do with it? just rm?
15:55 < _jeru> I just want to cleanup while unpacking the src tar
15:56 < _jeru> yep
15:56 < rxr> you have to copy them in some way ?
15:56 < rxr> hm - for .svn and CVS they are removed thereafter - after untag ?
15:56 < _jeru> yep
15:57 < _jeru> I know I could do this in conf, but it could be better for handleing it like svn and cvs
15:57 < _jeru> or not ?
15:58 < rxr> hm - they are just named arch ?
15:58 < rxr> I would not removed arch blindly by the build system ..
15:58 < rxr> e.g. in linux there is a arch directory ...
15:58 < _jeru> nope "{arch}"
15:59 < _jeru> with braces
15:59 < _jeru> in the case of "arch" I totally agree
16:02 < rxr> oh my god ...
16:02 < _jeru> What ?
16:02 < rxr> well - than add it to the usual place - grep scripts for CVS ,-)
16:03 < rxr> _jeru: omg what an ugly name ...
16:03 < _jeru> omg ?
16:04 < _jeru> rxr: what is the usual place regarding CVS ;) ?
16:04 < _jeru> at least where ?
16:04 < rxr> I would need to grep myself ...
16:04 < _jeru> ok I'll grep ;)
16:04 < _jeru> so what's omg ?
16:04 < rxr> functions
16:04 < rxr> oh my god ...
16:04 < rxr> scripts/functions
16:04 < _jeru> hehe :D
16:05 < rxr> lince 758
16:05 < rxr> line even
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16:06 < _jeru> thank you rxr
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16:13 < _jeru> rxr: have also to remove ".arch-ids"
16:14 * _jeru wonders about what damn crap somebody packs in a release tar :)
16:17 < rxr> yeah ..
16:17 < rxr> I also wonder ...
16:18 < _jeru> echo "Removing CVS, .svn, {arch} and .arch-ids directories ..."
16:18 < _jeru> egrep '(^|/)(CVS|\.svn|\{arch}|\.arch-ids)(/|$)' untar.txt |
16:18 < _jeru> oops
16:18 < _jeru> rxr: works
16:19 < _jeru> should I commit our do you want to review it again ;)
16:19 < _jeru> or
16:21 < rxr> hm - maybe add a backslash to the 2nd curly, too
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16:21 < rxr> moin mnemoc
16:22 < _jeru> moin master mnemoc
16:22 < mnemoc> 'master' LOL :)
16:23 < mnemoc> hi rxr, jeru
16:23 < _jeru> hehe :)
16:23 < mnemoc> what happened to nzg?
16:23 < rxr> mnemoc: ?
16:23 < mnemoc> i haven't seen him saying something in long time
16:29 < _jeru> rxr: egrep '(^|/)(CVS|\.svn|\{arch\}|\.arch-ids)(/|$)' untar.txt <- should be ok
16:30 < rxr> I think so
16:30 < _jeru> I'll comiit it
16:30 < mnemoc> filtering tla files?
16:31 < _jeru> if this crap is from tla ... yes ;)
16:31 < rxr> jsaw: tla == tom lord arch .... ,-)
16:31 < rxr> _jeru: ...
16:31 < rxr> damn
16:31 < _jeru> I should rename myself
16:31 < _jeru> ;)
16:32 < rxr> why do the few names here start with the same 4 letters ...
16:32 < _jeru> rxr: do you wanna establish a user name policy ? ;)
16:32 < rxr> nope ...
16:33 < mnemoc> _jeru: remove the underscore, to make happy :p
16:33 < rxr> mnemoc: my tab like _ ,-)
16:34 < _jeru> oh master is speaking
16:34 < rxr> just that I'm too fast on enter ...
16:34 < mnemoc> :)
16:34 < mnemoc> rene, the faster enter-presser in the net
16:34 < mnemoc> == 10:12:54 =[9]=> Building kde/qt [3.3.4 2.1.0-rc1].
16:38 < sepp> huhu
16:39 < _jeru> hi sepp
16:39 < sepp> hi all
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16:42 < sepp> content of pkg_foo_post.conf in package/*/bar is executed only if bar is in the pkg list?
16:48 < CIA-9> chris * r8100 /trunk/scripts/functions: * added support for removing {arch} and .arch-ids directories while untaring src files
16:51 < CIA-9> chris * r8101 /trunk/package/zope/placelesstranslationservice/ (3 files): * added PlacelessTranslationService (1.2-rc3)
16:53 < CIA-9> chris * r8102 /trunk/package/zope/plonenewsletter/ (. plonenewsletter.conf plonenewsletter.desc): * added PloneNewsLetter (2.3)
16:56 < mnemoc> sepp: yes
16:57 < mnemoc> sepp: but if you add a new pkg_foo_post.conf you have to rebuild the tools
16:57 < mnemoc> sepp: Build-Tools
16:57 < mnemoc> sepp: but Build-Target use to detect the change and rebuild itself
16:58 < sepp> mnemoc: good, thanks
16:58 < mnemoc> sepp: parse-config files are always loaded
16:59 < mnemoc> bar/pkg_foo_{pre,post}.conf only loaded for 'foo' if 'bar' is enabled
16:59 < mnemoc> bbl
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17:02 < rxr> hm
17:03 < CIA-9> amery * r8103 /trunk/package/base/gettext/gettext.desc: * changed gettext to build _also_ on stage 6, needed to build GNU.Gettext.dll (for now i'll try to building 6-9 every package needing this library)
17:03 < rxr> mnemoc: maybe you please split the build of the mono gettext stuff out of the gettext package?
17:04 < rxr> I absolutely disagree to introduce stage 6 7 or 8 builds ...
17:04 < rxr> getttext
17:04 < rxr> mono
17:04 < rxr> gettest-mono
17:04 < rxr> what is the problem with that ?
17:04 < mnemoc> do whatever you want, i wont fight that
17:05 < mnemoc> i have to go
17:05 < jeru> cu later
17:05 < mnemoc> cu
17:05 < rxr> mnemoc: cu ,-)
17:05 < CIA-9> amery * r8104 /trunk/package/network/lat/ (lat.conf lat.desc):
17:05 < CIA-9> * changed lat to build on stage 6 instead of 5
17:05 < CIA-9> * fixed lat to find GNU.Gettext.dll
17:05 < rxr> mnemoc: you wrote you already fixed gettext-mono by changing the priority and building it in 3 ...
17:06 < mnemoc> didn't worked
17:06 < rxr> damn - seems I have to throw CPU cycles on the mono stuff ...
17:06 < mnemoc> mono needs stuff from stage 5
17:06 < mnemoc> from a finished stage 3 i mean
17:06 < mnemoc> anyway, i have to go
17:06 < rxr> cu
17:06 < minto> cu mnemoc
17:07 < minto> rxr: are .gem file sort of .rpm for T2?
17:08 < minto> Where can I find out more on .gem files?
17:10 < rxr> i the mine package ...
17:10 < rxr> gem is a tiny wrapper around .tar.bz2 ...
17:10 < rxr> in 2.2 we will remove this bad rock idea ...
17:11 < rxr> I would not spent too much time on it ...
17:12 < minto> I won't. I was just thinking.
17:12 < minto> Watch the mailing list.
17:14 < rxr> which mailing list ?
17:14 < minto> It is not there yet.
17:14 < minto> I am working on it.
17:14 < minto> It is regarding alternative system.
17:15 < rxr> hm - the serial output of the PPC board confuses me ...
17:18 < minto> The mail just went out.
17:18 < CIA-9> chris * r8105 /trunk/package/zope/ldapuserfolder/ (. ldapuserfolder.conf ldapuserfolder.desc): * added LDAPUserFolder (2.5beta2)
17:19 < minto> La la, Po, tinky winky, Dipsy la lala la la
17:19 * minto hears tele tubbies while working
17:20 < jeru> oh oh
17:20 < minto> Yes indeed
17:20 < jeru> poor kids
17:20 < minto> Oh of all together now. But Merlyn (my 18 month old son) enjoys it.
17:21 < minto> s/of/oh
17:32 < mnemoc> re
17:32 < mnemoc> rent finally payed
17:35 < CIA-9> chris * r8106 /trunk/package/zope/plonersssearch/ (. plonersssearch.conf plonersssearch.desc): * added PloneRSSSearch (1.1)
17:36 < mnemoc> jeru: i got libsafe failed on stage 9... i could't find libprelude headers
17:36 < mnemoc> it*
17:36 < jeru> oh yeah it's libprelude aware
17:36 < jeru> prio ?
17:36 < mnemoc> stage 9... the whole stage 5 is already built
17:37 < jeru> hmmm ... have to check later ... have to move now ... cu later in the evening. now it's bowling time :)
17:38 < mnemoc> stage 9 on build target is there to detect dependencies and problems when you are sure prio is not the issue
17:38 < mnemoc> jeru: :D
17:38 < mnemoc> jeru: good luck
17:38 < jeru> I think it's the prio ... check against libprelude if possible :D
17:38 < jeru> and thank you :D
17:38 < jeru> bbl
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17:50 < mnemoc> rxr: have you read about arpwatch NG?
17:52 < mnemoc> Subversion 1.2.0-rc1
17:52 < mnemoc> rxr: when will we branch? on rc2?
17:53 < valentin> re
17:53 < rxr> ph
17:53 < rxr> puh even
17:54 < rxr> the ppc board only produced crap ...
17:54 < rxr> falling back into the in-system debugger ...
17:54 < rxr> some pressing on the ram and flash made it come up nicely again ...
17:54 < rxr> puh ..
17:55 < rxr> already feared I have to trash it ...
17:55 < rxr> MPU Clock Speed =367Mhz
17:55 < rxr> L2Cache: 1024KB, 147Mhz
17:55 < rxr> L2Cache: 1024KB, 147Mhz
17:55 < rxr> System Memory: 128MB, ECC Enabled (ECC-Memory Detected)
17:55 < valentin> rxr: what board ? the tfh one or the one you got before ?
17:55 < mnemoc> faster than what i'm using here :)
17:56 < rxr> the US telcom one ..
17:56 < rxr> the cPCI ...
17:57 < rxr> mnemoc: poor mnemoc ...
17:57 < valentin> mnemoc: cant you just solder your own transformer ?
17:57 < rxr> well a switching power suply one is a bit tricky ...
17:58 < mnemoc> valentin: there are no equivalent transformers here
17:58 < rxr> just had some examination about that
17:58 < rxr> puh
17:58 < rxr> maybe I have a T2 on the compact flash of that board soon ...
17:58 < mnemoc> 130W 19.5V 6.7A
17:58 < rxr> then I only have to find out which cPCI pins are wired to the 4 ethernet ports ...
17:59 < mnemoc> rxr: can you look at balsa? i don't understand the problem
17:59 < mnemoc> .oO( i didn't noticed you tagged rc1 )o
18:00 < rxr> mnemoc: I prepared the tag
18:00 < rxr> that is not yet final ...
18:00 < rxr> I just do not want to have the the ulist changes in there ...
18:00 < mnemoc> me neither
18:01 < rxr> and this forces us to get -rc1 some time soon ,-)
18:01 < rxr> maybe the board is even faster than my rs6k - with 1MB of L2 cache
18:01 < valentin> :)
18:01 < rxr> just that I'll not have storage on it ...
18:02 < rxr> hm - linux is cool - with wie
18:03 < mnemoc> with wie?
18:03 < rxr> either a fuse mounted or encrypted tunneled NFS I could write the irc logs out directly from this few Watt consuming board ,-)
18:03 < rxr> directly onto the remote server ...
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18:45 < mnemoc> rxr: ML
18:46 < rxr> read it ,-)
18:46 < mnemoc> 3?
18:46 < mnemoc> squirrelmail at 640x480 is not highly productive
18:47 < mnemoc> at least firefox does good font sizing
18:49 < rxr> ,-)
18:50 < rxr> I'll meassure the ppc boards power consumption soon ...
18:50 < rxr> currently I drive it with a normal atx power supply - which's fan does not spin up ..
18:52 < mnemoc> my fan sounds like a truck
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19:12 < keinek> hi
19:12 < _Ragnar_> hi
19:16 < rxr> damn is it long size I last used tftp ... and uploade booted those ppc boards over the net ...
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19:21 < mnemoc> i have to set a tftp here ASAP
19:21 < mnemoc> but to load DOS images
19:21 < mnemoc> i don't know how to do that
19:21 < rxr> what denial of service are you planning =?
19:22 < mnemoc> freedos + netbios :)
19:22 < mnemoc> nbt to be precise
19:22 < mnemoc> brb
19:26 < mnemoc> re
19:27 < rxr> ok linux booting ,-)
19:31 < valentin> is there a clever way to read one line of user input (instead of messing with while read ; break ; ....)
19:31 < rxr> 1?
19:31 < rxr> just read?
19:31 < rxr> read in
19:32 < rxr> 7
19:32 < rxr> cpu : 740/750
19:32 < rxr> bogomips : 732.36
19:39 * mnemoc took boss' machine
19:39 < rxr> I notice again how ugly this f*cking 2nd stage hardcodings are - and how annoying to use the network install is ...
19:39 < rxr> hehe
19:41 < mnemoc> is portmap on stage2?
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19:46 < rxr> O -----5---- 189.400 network portmap 4 / base/system 0
19:46 < rxr> [P] X -----5---9 189.400
19:46 < rxr> the former was some custom target on the rs6k - sorry for confusion
19:46 < rxr> mnemoc: why do you want it in stage2 ?
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19:47 < mnemoc> do mount NFS and get .gem files from there
19:47 < mnemoc> NFS without portmap is damn slow
19:47 < mnemoc> s/do/to/
19:50 < valentin> rxr: where can i copy my dreamburn.sh helper script ?
19:50 < mnemoc> arch/sh ?
19:51 < rxr> maybe first into the target until we do arch bootcode stuff in 2.2 ...
19:52 < rxr> mnemoc: ah - 2nd stage you mean ?
19:52 < mnemoc> :p
19:52 < mnemoc> yes yes
19:52 < mnemoc> bootdisk's 2nd stage
19:53 < rxr> well that is another story ...
19:53 < mnemoc> it's part of the 'network install' story
19:55 < rxr> portmap might be included ...
19:55 < CIA-9> amery * r8107 /trunk/package/network/ncftp/ncftp.desc: * updated ncftp (3.1.8 -> 3.1.9)
19:55 < rxr> does our default kernel include ip autoconfig ?
19:56 < mnemoc> uhm... if it does, it's not working
19:56 < rxr> hm - maybe
19:56 < rxr> of course the kernel does not do this per default ...
19:56 < rxr> you need ip=auto or so as boot option ...
19:58 < CIA-9> valentin * r8108 /trunk/target/dreamcast/DreamBurn.sh: * helper script to burn boot-able CDs for dreamcast
19:59 < mnemoc> i didn't know
20:01 < mnemoc> rxr: OT: e-utils failed here even after i replaced _all_ my tarballs with yours
20:02 < rxr> TCP: Hash tables configured (established 8192 bind 16384)
20:02 < rxr> Sending DHCP requests .
20:02 < rxr> ip=auto ,-)
20:03 < mnemoc> great :)
20:05 < mnemoc> i just noticed stage 9 doesn't share ccache with stage 5
20:05 < rxr> hm - does not really work on that box right now
20:05 < rxr> ending DHCP requests ...... timed out!
20:05 < rxr> IP-Config: Retrying forever (NFS root)...
20:05 < rxr> Sending DHCP requests ......
20:06 < mnemoc> pff
20:06 < mnemoc> udhcpd?
20:06 < rxr> Apr 8 20:06:10 obelix dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:01:af:02:15:53 via eth0
20:06 < rxr> Apr 8 20:06:10 obelix dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 192.168.2.181 to 00:01:af:02:15:53 via eth0
20:06 < CIA-9> valentin * r8109 /trunk/target/dreamcast/DreamBurn.sh: * copyright inserted into DreamBurn.sh
20:06 < mnemoc> :)
20:06 < rxr> mnemoc: I need to pull all out of the net - no userspace yet ...
20:06 < mnemoc> it was just delay
20:07 < mnemoc> udhcpd is the faster, lighter and simpler dhcpd server available
20:07 < rxr> delay? I doubt that
20:07 < rxr> the kernel is delaying for 20 seconds ++ ...
20:08 < mnemoc> ending DHCP requests ...... timed out!
20:08 < mnemoc> what was your DHCP server doing all that time?
20:08 < rxr> sending responses ...
20:08 < rxr> that is a kernel bug in some way ...
20:09 < rxr> my dhcpd works for anything else - and it is sending repsonses ...
20:09 < rxr> I doubt a 375 Mhz PPC with a higly optimized T2 on it is too slow to send resonses in time ..
20:09 < rxr> where the above is the server ...
20:10 < mnemoc> 'advanced' DHCP servers spend lot of time sending fancy responses
20:10 < mnemoc> not the one a simple client is expecting
20:11 < mnemoc> is es.tldp.org reachable from there?
20:12 < mnemoc> i got lot of timeouts from freedos dhcp client before i migrated from ISC's to udhcpd
20:14 < rxr> hm
20:14 < mnemoc> now with udhcpd all clients are happy
20:15 < mnemoc> but i haven't tried kernel's
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21:36 < rxr> hm - I say ip=192.168.2.100 - and it sends DHCP requests out anyway ...
21:36 < mnemoc> hehe
21:45 < rxr> when I force via ip=192.168.2.100:255.255.255.0 it works ...
21:45 < rxr> but it still asks the server ...
21:45 < rxr> IP-Config: Got DHCP answer from 192.168.2.1, my address is 192.168.2.100
21:45 < rxr> IP-Config: Complete:
21:45 < rxr> device=eth0, addr=192.168.2.100, mask=255.255.255.0, gw=192.168.2.1,
21:45 < rxr> host=192.168.2.100, domain=localnet, nis-domain=(none),
21:45 < rxr> bootserver=192.168.2.1, rootserver=192.168.2.45, rootpath=
21:46 < mnemoc> i think you request 192.168.2.100:255.255.255.0 to DHCP
21:46 < rxr> ?
21:46 < rxr> Apr 8 21:43:44 obelix dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.2.100 (255.255.255.0) from 00:01:af:02:15:53 via eth0
21:46 < rxr> Apr 8 21:43:44 obelix dhcpd: DHCPACK on 192.168.2.100 to 00:01:af:02:15:53 via eth0
21:47 < mnemoc> :)
21:47 < mnemoc> kernel requested the ip/nm you suggested
21:47 < rxr> I thought ip=$someip is setting the IP - not asking some DHCP server if that could kindly be used ...
21:47 < rxr> yeah - but that stinks ...
21:47 < rxr> either I want DHCP - or I want to hardcode it ...
21:48 < mnemoc> maybe there is a nodhcp or alike option
21:49 < rxr> well - that is of course someone wants to enter of a 9.8kB serial line without backspace support ...
21:49 < rxr> one typo and you can press reset ...
21:51 < rxr> well - not that I can type at 9.6kbit - just that is is all slow ...
21:51 < mnemoc> :)
21:52 < mnemoc> i'll finally go to lunch
21:58 < rxr> cu then
21:58 < rxr> we take evening dinner now ...
21:59 < mnemoc> :)
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22:41 < rxr> SCSI Bus Reset on Debugger Startup [Y/N] = N?
22:41 < rxr> Network PReP-Boot Mode Enable [Y/N] = N? y
22:43 < rxr> ok - that makes .pplus images loadable ...
22:43 < rxr> damn is it already long time ago since I last powered up this board ...
22:43 < rxr> and I once had it all working ...
22:43 < rxr> damn rework ...
22:43 < rxr> at least this time it goes faster ...
22:44 < rxr> 0000:01:04.0: tulip_stop_rxtx() failed
22:44 < rxr> .OO
22:44 < rxr> this kernel seems to have some broken or so tulip driver ...
22:45 < rxr> Sending DHCP requests .<7>0000:01:04.0: tulip_stop_rxtx() failed
22:59 < rxr> weeeeee
22:59 < rxr> IP-Config: Complete:
22:59 < rxr> IP-Config: Complete: device=eth0, addr=192.168.2.100, mask=255.255.255.0, gw=255.255.255.255,
22:59 < rxr> host=test, domain=, nis-domain=(none),
22:59 < rxr> bootserver=192.168.2.1, rootserver=192.168.2.1, rootpath=
22:59 < rxr> Looking up port of RPC 100003/2 on 192.168.2.1
22:59 < rxr> Looking up port of RPC 100005/1 on 192.168.2.1
22:59 < rxr> VFS: Mounted root (nfs filesystem) readonly.
22:59 < rxr> Mounted devfs on /dev
22:59 < rxr> Freeing unused kernel memory: 132k init
23:00 < rxr> # free
23:00 < rxr> # free total used free shared buffers cached
23:00 < rxr> Mem: 127152 5080 122072 0 0 2180
23:00 < rxr> # cat /proc/cpuinfo
23:00 < rxr> processor : 0
23:00 < rxr> cpu : 740/750
23:00 < rxr> temperature : 23-25 C (uncalibrated)
23:00 < rxr> revision : 131.2 (pvr 0008 8302)
23:00 < rxr> bogomips : 731.13
23:00 < rxr> vendor : Motorola MCG
23:00 < rxr> machine : Mesquite cPCI (MCP750) +
23:00 < rxr> cool - board up over NFS
23:00 < rxr> tomorrow I'll prepare the CF card ....
23:00 < rxr> n8 all
23:00 < rxr> ,-) !
23:01 < mnemoc> n8 rene :)
23:46 < jsaw> re
23:51 < sepp_> hi jsaw
23:51 < jsaw> hi sepp_
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00:35 < CIA-9> amery * r8086 /trunk/scripts/functions:
00:35 < CIA-9> * improved bz2filename to support .gpg files
00:35 < CIA-9> * injected copyright note to scripts/functions
00:50 < CIA-9> amery * r8087 /trunk/scripts/Download: * improved Download to unsign .gpg files
00:51 < _jeru> mnemoc: .gpg files inside a tar ?
00:51 < mnemoc> nope
00:51 < mnemoc> tar inside .gpg
00:51 < mnemoc> lazyfs and zeroinstall
00:51 < _jeru> ah
00:51 < mnemoc> it's very weak, but it works
00:52 < _jeru> hehe
01:07 < mnemoc> opensourcecms.org
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01:17 * mnemoc kicks the can he use as desktop
03:02 < mnemoc> 21:01:46] <@skwashd> lol .... Is Avant Browser a secure browser?
03:02 < mnemoc> [21:01:47] <@skwashd> Yes, Avant Browser is secure. Since it's based on Internet Explorer, Avant Browser is as secure as Internet Explorer.
03:02 < _jeru> what that sh*t ?
03:03 < mnemoc> a paste :)
03:05 < _jeru> a paste of sh*t ?
03:05 < mnemoc> a paste from #phpgroupware
03:05 < mnemoc> :)
03:06 < _jeru> I knew it before ... shit
03:07 < mnemoc> :)
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03:58 < mnemoc> if [ $autogen -eq 1 -a \( -f configure.in -o -f configure.ac \) ] ; then <-- do we really need those configure files to run aclocal?
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04:02 < mnemoc> _jeru: i'll do an 'evil' change on snort
04:02 < mnemoc> _jeru: i'll use $sysconfdir instead of $prefix/etc
04:03 < mnemoc> _jeru: what means /etc/opt/snort instead of /opt/snort/etc
04:05 < CIA-9> chris * r8088 /trunk/package/zope/i18nfolder/i18nfolder.desc: * added forgotten checksum
04:05 < CIA-9> amery * r8089 /trunk/package/security/snort/ (snort.conf snort.init):
04:05 < CIA-9> * cleaned snort .conf
04:05 < CIA-9> * improved snort by using pkgprefix
04:13 < CIA-9> chris * r8090 /trunk/package/zope/ploneicalendar/ (. ploneicalendar.conf ploneicalendar.desc): * added PloneiCallendar (1.0)
04:13 < mnemoc> :)
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04:31 < keinek> hi
04:31 < sparc-kly> keinek remeber t2-es :P
04:31 < sparc-kly> remember *
04:31 < sparc-kly> lol
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06:49 < rxr> re
06:49 < mnemoc> hi rxr
06:50 < rxr> moin mnemoc !
07:25 * rxr -> uni
07:25 < rxr> cu later
07:26 < mnemoc> cu rxr
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08:48 < minto> Good morning all
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11:04 < rxr> moin
11:11 < rxr> Ecasound 2.4.1
11:13 < CIA-9> chris * r8091 /trunk/package/security/vserver/vserver.desc: * updated vserver (0.30.203 -> 0.30.204)
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11:13 < _jeru> moin
11:15 < rxr> moin jsaw
11:15 < rxr> _jeru: even ,-)
11:16 < valentin> moin
11:17 < rxr> Linux 2.6.11.7
11:18 < rxr> moin valentin
11:18 < rxr> valentin: we have unionsfs now ...
11:18 < rxr> unionfs of course ...
11:19 < rxr> oh - and I implemented orphaned files tracking this morning ...
11:19 < rxr> Build-Pkg | 20 +++++++++++++++-----
11:19 < rxr> 1 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
11:19 < _jeru> moin rxr, valentin :)
11:20 < _jeru> seems that linus doesn't like svn
11:21 < rxr> jsaw: svn does not work for the kernel - because linus wants full control and only himself to commit svn will be no help there ...
11:21 < rxr> it is just the scenario that hinders subversion to be used ...
11:21 < rxr> the linux kernel is a cathedral - not a bazzar ...
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11:22 < valentin> rxr: we can point linus to submaster
11:22 < _jeru> haha :)
11:22 < rxr> no - I do not want him falling at the floor laughing - we need him coding ...
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11:23 < rxr> I mean - after that quick hack he will never fully recover ...
11:25 < valentin> rxr: did you hear the helicopters last week ?
11:26 < valentin> there were much helicopters over berlin the last days.
11:26 < _jeru> valentin: ack
11:27 < valentin> today i hear in the news that they were experimenting with cameras to hunt down sprayers
11:27 < _jeru> hmmm ... sprayers ;)
11:27 < valentin> wtf ? now they are monitoring citizens with infrared cameras in the night ? to catch sprayers ???
11:28 < _jeru> that's the offical story I think
11:28 < valentin> if that news had been a week earlier i would have mistaken it for an aprils fool
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11:29 < valentin> anybody knows jet set radio ?
11:29 < _jeru> nope
11:30 < rxr> no
11:30 < _jeru> valentin .... powered by dj wowereit ? ;)
11:30 < rxr> I only listen to duetschland funk / radio or RBB Info or so ...
11:31 < rxr> and of course my favourite mp3 stream delivered our of france ...
11:32 < valentin> no - jet set radio is no radio
11:32 < _jeru> more :)
11:36 < valentin> http://www.gamecrazy.com/games/game.aspx?id=659
11:36 < valentin> the international title was jet grind radio
11:37 < valentin> they use helicopters and police tanks to hunt down sprayers, too
11:37 < rxr> lol
11:37 < valentin> i always thought that would be fiction
11:37 < _jeru> valentin so you know what's Otto is playing ;)
11:38 < valentin> in jet grind radio, you play the sprayers
11:38 < valentin> your main goal is to tag all targets in the level within a given time limit without beeing caught or shot down by the police
11:39 < _jeru> so so ... a "player" he is :)
11:39 < rxr> I thought he is plaing slamming the head against some wall until no brain is left at all ...
11:39 < valentin> he is playing innenminister
11:40 < _jeru> what brain ?
11:40 < rxr> does this include head slamming ...
11:40 < _jeru> hehe :D
11:40 < rxr> jsaw: yeah - I played too much
11:40 < _jeru> jeru
11:40 < rxr> he of course ...
11:40 < _jeru> the last I played spontanously was GTA
11:41 < rxr> formula one grand prix 3 was nice:
11:41 < rxr> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/rene/photos/gp3/gallery.html
11:41 < _jeru> I liked to drive through the city in a Hummer listening music
11:42 < _jeru> rxr: do you have a steering wheel ?
11:42 < rxr> nope
11:42 < rxr> only some old joystick - hoever I once build pedals myself ...
11:42 < rxr> building a sophisticated set of peddals and wheel was on my TODO ...
11:42 < _jeru> hehe :)
11:42 < rxr> however some 2GB file limit once cut my TODO off ...
11:43 < rxr> Build-Pkg | 20 +++++++++++++++-----
11:43 < rxr> 1 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
11:43 < rxr> ok - I commit that ...
11:43 < _jeru> rxr: a wheel really increases fun level
11:43 < rxr> pedals already did ...
11:43 < rxr> and running that windows game under linux was a nice satisfaction also ...
11:43 < _jeru> yeah ... of course with pedals
11:43 < rxr> just that 2 graphic issues have been a bit annoying ...
11:44 < rxr> my last ones have been built out of lego technik ...
11:44 < valentin> rxr: if you find that is satisfaction, you can come over and get harry potter running
11:44 < rxr> but they alrkeady rocked ...a
11:44 < rxr> valentin: is that my wife or yours ...
11:44 < _jeru> :D
11:44 < valentin> is that my t2 package or our your package ?
11:44 < rxr> gp3 cost me a whole night ... - only the playing thereafter was fun ..
11:44 < valentin> :p
11:45 < valentin> i spend some days
11:45 < valentin> during the last year
11:45 < valentin> but i have a partition left on the athlons hd, so i think i will just install a minimal windows for gaming
11:46 * _jeru thinks: these linux "fuzzies" doing everything not to switch the OS! taking all pain :)
11:46 < rxr> valentin: ?!?!?
11:46 * rxr kicks valentin ...
11:47 < valentin> rxr: why should i speend a week with that crappy emulator ?
11:47 < rxr> valentin: must I tell the BSA that you are going to install an unlicensed copy of Windows ??
11:47 < rxr> okok - I come over and take a look ...
11:47 < _jeru> rxr: this my weapon to if my collegues flamming about linux ;)
11:47 < _jeru> too
11:48 < rxr> valentin: I hope this nice Slot A athlon never has seen windows code - and I hope for the nicely loving CPU that it stays so ..
11:48 < rxr> valentin: imaiagine it gets a heart attack on it's aging days ...
11:49 < _jeru> seems that rxr really takes care
11:49 < valentin> okok
11:49 < valentin> :)
11:49 < CIA-9> rene * r8092 /tags/2.1.0-rc1/: * prepared the 2.1.0-rc1 tag
11:50 < CIA-9> rene * r8093 /trunk/scripts/Build-Pkg: * introduced var/adm/olists to keep track of orphaned files
11:56 < _jeru> valentin: head line on Radio1: Schilly agains sprayes! ;)
11:56 < _jeru> against sprayers
11:59 < valentin> when there is nothing left todo for a minister .....
12:02 < rxr> Build-Pkg | 7 +++----
12:02 < rxr> 1 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
12:02 < valentin> the game is set in a Neo-Orwellian future where the teen-agers of Tokyo are being subjugated by the government.
12:02 < valentin> so we live in 1984
12:03 < CIA-9> rene * r8094 /trunk/scripts/Build-Pkg:
12:03 < CIA-9> * optmized olist creation by removing some redundant sed and cut
12:03 < CIA-9> invocations
12:03 < valentin> rene: moving them out of a loop ?
12:03 < _jeru> valentin: already heared that Otto wants to have it country wide
12:03 < rxr> valentin: no
12:04 < rxr> valentin: removing at all - from linear control flow
12:04 < rxr> but on a ooo flist it may save you 5 seconds ...
12:04 < rxr> (or even more - no idea - no ooo flist yet)
12:11 < valentin> breakfast
12:14 < rxr> ehrm - lunch here ...
12:16 < CIA-9> chris * r8095 /trunk/package/zope/i18nlayer/ (. i18nlayer.conf i18nlayer.desc): * added I18NLayer for Zope/Plone (0.5.6)
12:20 < CIA-9> rene * r8096 /trunk/scripts/parse-config: * bumbed version to 2.1.0-rc2
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12:28 < CIA-9> chris * r8097 /trunk/package/zope/plonelanguagetool/ (. plonelanguagetool.conf plonelanguagetool.desc): * added PloneLanguageTool (0.5)
12:44 < _jeru> how can I filtering out {arch} directories while installing a package ?
12:45 < valentin> had my question concering temporary files been answerded ?
12:46 < _jeru> or could we even filter it like .svn directories ?
12:50 < rxr> valentin: no
12:50 < rxr> valentin: what is your quesiton ?
12:53 < valentin> is there an official $tmpdir or something for temporary files in t2 ?
12:53 < valentin> or should i hardcode /tmp
12:54 < rxr> mktemp is common practice ..
12:56 < valentin> ok
13:06 < CIA-9> rene * r8098 /trunk/package/base/linux-header/linux-header.conf: * fixed linux-header for in-system builds ...
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13:29 < _jeru> have to go ... cu later
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13:52 < rxr> teset
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14:06 < rxr_> ok
14:06 * rxr_ now in 2.6.11.6
14:06 < rxr_> Linux version 2.6.11.6-dist (root@haudraufinix) (gcc version 3.4.3) #1 Thu Apr 7 23:24:24 CEST 2005
14:06 < rxr_> and DVB-T working - out of the box - all auto detected and firmware loaded by T2 hardware detection ...
14:07 < rxr_> my farther usually needs way more time to get his DVB-S card working under this OS called Windows ...
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15:03 < rxr> valentin: I reactivated one of my PPC embedded boards ...
15:03 < rxr> I plan to set the 5 port beast up as primary router here ...
15:03 < rxr> to save engergy costs due to the power consuming rs6k ...
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15:04 < rxr> it will run from a 128MB compact flash card ...
15:04 < _jeru> re
15:04 < rxr> hi jsaw
15:04 < rxr> _jeru: even ..
15:04 < rxr> damn
15:04 < _jeru> jeru :D
15:04 * rxr must not that fast on
15:05 * _jeru thinks rxr have to make up his mind ;)
15:05 < minto> hi _jeru
15:05 < _jeru> hi minto
15:05 < rxr> hi minto
15:05 < minto> hi rxr
15:05 < _jeru> so what are you talking about regarding booting from a flash card ?
15:06 * minto is listening carefully
15:07 < rxr> just that I resurrected my PPC board ...
15:07 < rxr> 5 ethernet ports ,-)
15:07 < rxr> for use as primary router here - my rs6k is consuming too much energy ...
15:07 < rxr> I only wrote that it will use a 128MB flash as root ...
15:07 < minto> Oehh, rxr gets big bills
15:08 < _jeru> rxr: what board do you use ? sounds interesting !
15:09 < minto> _jeru: do you have that Compact Flash script cleaned up yet. Minto is still curious.
15:09 < rxr> oehm - motorola compact pci ..
15:09 < rxr> got them during rock linux times from a US telecomunication company ...
15:10 < _jeru> ahh cool
15:10 < rxr> the 4 port ethernet PCI mezzanine board alone is quite expensive ...
15:13 < _jeru> the small boxes from http://www.soekris.com/ are also quite interesting
15:15 < _jeru> ^ but no PPC boards
15:17 < _jeru> rxr: what do you think about the soekris boxes ?
15:19 < _jeru> minto: have not cleaned up my CF build scripts yet, sorry
15:22 < _jeru> made a prototype of a bridging fw / IDS system on a 1U appliance with 6 interfaces with it
15:37 < rxr> I once had a tiny 486 or so board in my hands one day ...
15:37 < _jeru> but ?
15:40 < rxr> nothing ... ,-)
15:40 < rxr> just scrolled over the side ,-)
15:40 < _jeru> hehe :)
15:41 < _jeru> thinks clifford had a soekris box for testing ... at least there is an article about it on rocklinux.org
15:44 < rxr> yep
15:44 < _jeru> rxr: but I guess you had no hands on it :)
15:46 < rxr> well - on one I had - the OpenBSD guy lent one to clifford - that was the 486 board I had in my hands
15:46 < rxr> later I think clifford brought an own one - but I do not remeber off hand what it was ...
15:49 < _jeru> rxr: and what was you overall impression of these boards
15:50 < rxr> well - I did not used them - I think some open bsd people are favouring them ...
15:51 < rxr> if the feature set (cpu and speed and such) are ok for you, ...
15:51 < _jeru> I guess you PPC board has better performance
15:51 < _jeru> your
15:53 < CIA-9> chris * r8099 /trunk/package/zope/plonepopoll/ (. plonepopoll.conf plonepopoll.desc): * added PlonePopoll (2.3)
15:53 < _jeru> rxr: how can I filter out {arch} dirs from arch versioning system ?
15:54 < _jeru> where is this done for svn and cvs ?
15:54 < rxr> jsaw: what ?
15:55 < _jeru> I've a package with an directory "{arch}" in it, which seems to belong to arch versioning system
15:55 < rxr> what do you want to do with it? just rm?
15:55 < _jeru> I just want to cleanup while unpacking the src tar
15:56 < _jeru> yep
15:56 < rxr> you have to copy them in some way ?
15:56 < rxr> hm - for .svn and CVS they are removed thereafter - after untag ?
15:56 < _jeru> yep
15:57 < _jeru> I know I could do this in conf, but it could be better for handleing it like svn and cvs
15:57 < _jeru> or not ?
15:58 < rxr> hm - they are just named arch ?
15:58 < rxr> I would not removed arch blindly by the build system ..
15:58 < rxr> e.g. in linux there is a arch directory ...
15:58 < _jeru> nope "{arch}"
15:59 < _jeru> with braces
15:59 < _jeru> in the case of "arch" I totally agree
16:02 < rxr> oh my god ...
16:02 < _jeru> What ?
16:02 < rxr> well - than add it to the usual place - grep scripts for CVS ,-)
16:03 < rxr> _jeru: omg what an ugly name ...
16:03 < _jeru> omg ?
16:04 < _jeru> rxr: what is the usual place regarding CVS ;) ?
16:04 < _jeru> at least where ?
16:04 < rxr> I would need to grep myself ...
16:04 < _jeru> ok I'll grep ;)
16:04 < _jeru> so what's omg ?
16:04 < rxr> functions
16:04 < rxr> oh my god ...
16:04 < rxr> scripts/functions
16:04 < _jeru> hehe :D
16:05 < rxr> lince 758
16:05 < rxr> line even
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16:06 < _jeru> thank you rxr
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16:13 < _jeru> rxr: have also to remove ".arch-ids"
16:14 * _jeru wonders about what damn crap somebody packs in a release tar :)
16:17 < rxr> yeah ..
16:17 < rxr> I also wonder ...
16:18 < _jeru> echo "Removing CVS, .svn, {arch} and .arch-ids directories ..."
16:18 < _jeru> egrep '(^|/)(CVS|\.svn|\{arch}|\.arch-ids)(/|$)' untar.txt |
16:18 < _jeru> oops
16:18 < _jeru> rxr: works
16:19 < _jeru> should I commit our do you want to review it again ;)
16:19 < _jeru> or
16:21 < rxr> hm - maybe add a backslash to the 2nd curly, too
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16:21 < rxr> moin mnemoc
16:22 < _jeru> moin master mnemoc
16:22 < mnemoc> 'master' LOL :)
16:23 < mnemoc> hi rxr, jeru
16:23 < _jeru> hehe :)
16:23 < mnemoc> what happened to nzg?
16:23 < rxr> mnemoc: ?
16:23 < mnemoc> i haven't seen him saying something in long time
16:29 < _jeru> rxr: egrep '(^|/)(CVS|\.svn|\{arch\}|\.arch-ids)(/|$)' untar.txt <- should be ok
16:30 < rxr> I think so
16:30 < _jeru> I'll comiit it
16:30 < mnemoc> filtering tla files?
16:31 < _jeru> if this crap is from tla ... yes ;)
16:31 < rxr> jsaw: tla == tom lord arch .... ,-)
16:31 < rxr> _jeru: ...
16:31 < rxr> damn
16:31 < _jeru> I should rename myself
16:31 < _jeru> ;)
16:32 < rxr> why do the few names here start with the same 4 letters ...
16:32 < _jeru> rxr: do you wanna establish a user name policy ? ;)
16:32 < rxr> nope ...
16:33 < mnemoc> _jeru: remove the underscore, to make
16:33 < rxr> mnemoc: my tab like _ ,-)
16:34 < _jeru> oh master is speaking
16:34 < rxr> just that I'm too fast on enter ...
16:34 < mnemoc> :)
16:34 < mnemoc> rene, the faster enter-presser in the net
16:34 < mnemoc> == 10:12:54 =[9]=> Building kde/qt [3.3.4 2.1.0-rc1].
16:38 < sepp> huhu
16:39 < _jeru> hi sepp
16:39 < sepp> hi all
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16:42 < sepp> content of pkg_foo_post.conf in package/*/bar is executed only if bar is in the pkg list?
16:48 < CIA-9> chris * r8100 /trunk/scripts/functions: * added support for removing {arch} and .arch-ids directories while untaring src files
16:51 < CIA-9> chris * r8101 /trunk/package/zope/placelesstranslationservice/ (3 files): * added PlacelessTranslationService (1.2-rc3)
16:53 < CIA-9> chris * r8102 /trunk/package/zope/plonenewsletter/ (. plonenewsletter.conf plonenewsletter.desc): * added PloneNewsLetter (2.3)
16:56 < mnemoc> sepp: yes
16:57 < mnemoc> sepp: but if you add a new pkg_foo_post.conf you have to rebuild the tools
16:57 < mnemoc> sepp: Build-Tools
16:57 < mnemoc> sepp: but Build-Target use to detect the change and rebuild itself
16:58 < sepp> mnemoc: good, thanks
16:58 < mnemoc> sepp: parse-config files are always loaded
16:59 < mnemoc> bar/pkg_foo_{pre,post}.conf only loaded for 'foo' if 'bar' is enabled
16:59 < mnemoc> bbl
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17:02 < rxr> hm
17:03 < CIA-9> amery * r8103 /trunk/package/base/gettext/gettext.desc: * changed gettext to build _also_ on stage 6, needed to build GNU.Gettext.dll (for now i'll try to building 6-9 every package needing this library)
17:03 < rxr> mnemoc: maybe you please split the build of the mono gettext stuff out of the gettext package?
17:04 < rxr> I absolutely disagree to introduce stage 6 7 or 8 builds ...
17:04 < rxr> getttext
17:04 < rxr> mono
17:04 < rxr> gettest-mono
17:04 < rxr> what is the problem with that ?
17:04 < mnemoc> do whatever you want, i wont fight that
17:05 < mnemoc> i have to go
17:05 < jeru> cu later
17:05 < mnemoc> cu
17:05 < rxr> mnemoc: cu ,-)
17:05 < CIA-9> amery * r8104 /trunk/package/network/lat/ (lat.conf lat.desc):
17:05 < CIA-9> * changed lat to build on stage 6 instead of 5
17:05 < CIA-9> * fixed lat to find GNU.Gettext.dll
17:05 < rxr> mnemoc: you wrote you already fixed gettext-mono by changing the priority and building it in 3 ...
17:06 < mnemoc> didn't worked
17:06 < rxr> damn - seems I have to throw CPU cycles on the mono stuff ...
17:06 < mnemoc> mono needs stuff from stage 5
17:06 < mnemoc> from a finished stage 3 i mean
17:06 < mnemoc> anyway, i have to go
17:06 < rxr> cu
17:06 < minto> cu mnemoc
17:07 < minto> rxr: are .gem file sort of .rpm for T2?
17:08 < minto> Where can I find out more on .gem files?
17:10 < rxr> i the mine package ...
17:10 < rxr> gem is a tiny wrapper around .tar.bz2 ...
17:10 < rxr> in 2.2 we will remove this bad rock idea ...
17:11 < rxr> I would not spent too much time on it ...
17:12 < minto> I won't. I was just thinking.
17:12 < minto> Watch the mailing list.
17:14 < rxr> which mailing list ?
17:14 < minto> It is not there yet.
17:14 < minto> I am working on it.
17:14 < minto> It is regarding alternative system.
17:15 < rxr> hm - the serial output of the PPC board confuses me ...
17:18 < minto> The mail just went out.
17:18 < CIA-9> chris * r8105 /trunk/package/zope/ldapuserfolder/ (. ldapuserfolder.conf ldapuserfolder.desc): * added LDAPUserFolder (2.5beta2)
17:19 < minto> La la, Po, tinky winky, Dipsy la lala la la
17:19 * minto hears tele tubbies while working
17:20 < jeru> oh oh
17:20 < minto> Yes indeed
17:20 < jeru> poor kids
17:20 < minto> Oh of all together now. But Merlyn (my 18 month old son) enjoys it.
17:21 < minto> s/of/oh
17:32 < mnemoc> re
17:32 < mnemoc> rent finally payed
17:35 < CIA-9> chris * r8106 /trunk/package/zope/plonersssearch/ (. plonersssearch.conf plonersssearch.desc): * added PloneRSSSearch (1.1)
17:36 < mnemoc> jeru: i got libsafe failed on stage 9... i could't find libprelude headers
17:36 < mnemoc> it*
17:36 < jeru> oh yeah it's libprelude aware
17:36 < jeru> prio ?
17:36 < mnemoc> stage 9... the whole stage 5 is already built
17:37 < jeru> hmmm ... have to check later ... have to move now ... cu later in the evening. now it's bowling time :)
17:38 < mnemoc> stage 9 on build target is there to detect dependencies and problems when you are sure prio is not the issue
17:38 < mnemoc> jeru: :D
17:38 < mnemoc> jeru: good luck
17:38 < jeru> I think it's the prio ... check against libprelude if possible :D
17:38 < jeru> and thank you :D
17:38 < jeru> bbl
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17:50 < mnemoc> rxr: have you read about arpwatch NG?
17:52 < mnemoc> Subversion 1.2.0-rc1
17:52 < mnemoc> rxr: when will we branch? on rc2?
17:53 < valentin> re
17:53 < rxr> ph
17:53 < rxr> puh even
17:54 < rxr> the ppc board only produced crap ...
17:54 < rxr> falling back into the in-system debugger ...
17:54 < rxr> some pressing on the ram and flash made it come up nicely again ...
17:54 < rxr> puh ..
17:55 < rxr> already feared I have to trash it ...
17:55 < rxr> MPU Clock Speed =367Mhz
17:55 < rxr> L2Cache: 1024KB, 147Mhz
17:55 < rxr> L2Cache: 1024KB, 147Mhz
17:55 < rxr> System Memory: 128MB, ECC Enabled (ECC-Memory Detected)
17:55 < valentin> rxr: what board ? the tfh one or the one you got before ?
17:55 < mnemoc> faster than what i'm using here :)
17:56 < rxr> the US telcom one ..
17:56 < rxr> the cPCI ...
17:57 < rxr> mnemoc: poor mnemoc ...
17:57 < valentin> mnemoc: cant you just solder your own transformer ?
17:57 < rxr> well a switching power suply one is a bit tricky ...
17:58 < mnemoc> valentin: there are no equivalent transformers here
17:58 < rxr> just had some examination about that
17:58 < rxr> puh
17:58 < rxr> maybe I have a T2 on the compact flash of that board soon ...
17:58 < mnemoc> 130W 19.5V 6.7A
17:58 < rxr> then I only have to find out which cPCI pins are wired to the 4 ethernet ports ...
17:59 < mnemoc> rxr: can you look at balsa? i don't understand the problem
17:59 < mnemoc> .oO( i didn't noticed you tagged rc1 )o
18:00 < rxr> mnemoc: I prepared the tag
18:00 < rxr> that is not yet final ...
18:00 < rxr> I just do not want to have the the ulist changes in there ...
18:00 < mnemoc> me neither
18:01 < rxr> and this forces us to get -rc1 some time soon ,-)
18:01 < rxr> maybe the board is even faster than my rs6k - with 1MB of L2 cache
18:01 < valentin> :)
18:01 < rxr> just that I'll not have storage on it ...
18:02 < rxr> hm - linux is cool - with wie
18:03 < mnemoc> with wie?
18:03 < rxr> either a fuse mounted or encrypted tunneled NFS I could write the irc logs out directly from this few Watt consuming board ,-)
18:03 < rxr> directly onto the remote server ...
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18:45 < mnemoc> rxr: ML
18:46 < rxr> read it ,-)
18:46 < mnemoc> 3?
18:46 < mnemoc> squirrelmail at 640x480 is not highly productive
18:47 < mnemoc> at least firefox does good font sizing
18:49 < rxr> ,-)
18:50 < rxr> I'll meassure the ppc boards power consumption soon ...
18:50 < rxr> currently I drive it with a normal atx power supply - which's fan does not spin up ..
18:52 < mnemoc> my fan sounds like a truck
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19:12 < keinek> hi
19:12 < _Ragnar_> hi
19:16 < rxr> damn is it long size I last used tftp ... and uploade booted those ppc boards over the net ...
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19:21 < mnemoc> i have to set a tftp here ASAP
19:21 < mnemoc> but to load DOS images
19:21 < mnemoc> i don't know how to do that
19:21 < rxr> what denial of service are you planning =?
19:22 < mnemoc> freedos + netbios :)
19:22 < mnemoc> nbt to be precise
19:22 < mnemoc> brb
19:26 < mnemoc> re
19:27 < rxr> ok linux booting ,-)
19:31 < valentin> is there a clever way to read one line of user input (instead of messing with while read ; break ; ....)
19:31 < rxr> 1?
19:31 < rxr> just read?
19:31 < rxr> read in
19:32 < rxr> 7
19:32 < rxr> cpu : 740/750
19:32 < rxr> bogomips : 732.36
19:39 * mnemoc took boss' machine
19:39 < rxr> I notice again how ugly this f*cking 2nd stage hardcodings are - and how annoying to use the network install is ...
19:39 < rxr> hehe
19:41 < mnemoc> is portmap on stage2?
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19:46 < rxr> O -----5---- 189.400 network portmap 4 / base/system 0
19:46 < rxr> [P] X -----5---9 189.400
19:46 < rxr> the former was some custom target on the rs6k - sorry for confusion
19:46 < rxr> mnemoc: why do you want it in stage2 ?
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19:47 < mnemoc> do mount NFS and get .gem files from there
19:47 < mnemoc> NFS without portmap is damn slow
19:47 < mnemoc> s/do/to/
19:50 < valentin> rxr: where can i copy my dreamburn.sh helper script ?
19:50 < mnemoc> arch/sh ?
19:51 < rxr> maybe first into the target until we do arch bootcode stuff in 2.2 ...
19:52 < rxr> mnemoc: ah - 2nd stage you mean ?
19:52 < mnemoc> :p
19:52 < mnemoc> yes yes
19:52 < mnemoc> bootdisk's 2nd stage
19:53 < rxr> well that is another story ...
19:53 < mnemoc> it's part of the 'network install' story
19:55 < rxr> portmap might be included ...
19:55 < CIA-9> amery * r8107 /trunk/package/network/ncftp/ncftp.desc: * updated ncftp (3.1.8 -> 3.1.9)
19:55 < rxr> does our default kernel include ip autoconfig ?
19:56 < mnemoc> uhm... if it does, it's not working
19:56 < rxr> hm - maybe
19:56 < rxr> of course the kernel does not do this per default ...
19:56 < rxr> you need ip=auto or so as boot option ...
19:58 < CIA-9> valentin * r8108 /trunk/target/dreamcast/DreamBurn.sh: * helper script to burn boot-able CDs for dreamcast
19:59 < mnemoc> i didn't know
20:01 < mnemoc> rxr: OT: e-utils failed here even after i replaced _all_ my tarballs with yours
20:02 < rxr> TCP: Hash tables configured (established 8192 bind 16384)
20:02 < rxr> Sending DHCP requests .
20:02 < rxr> ip=auto ,-)
20:03 < mnemoc> great :)
20:05 < mnemoc> i just noticed stage 9 doesn't share ccache with stage 5
20:05 < rxr> hm - does not really work on that box right now
20:05 < rxr> ending DHCP requests ...... timed out!
20:05 < rxr> IP-Config: Retrying forever (NFS root)...
20:05 < rxr> Sending DHCP requests ......
20:06 < mnemoc> pff
20:06 < mnemoc> udhcpd?
20:06 < rxr> Apr 8 20:06:10 obelix dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:01:af:02:15:53 via eth0
20:06 < rxr> Apr 8 20:06:10 obelix dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 192.168.2.181 to 00:01:af:02:15:53 via eth0
20:06 < CIA-9> valentin * r8109 /trunk/target/dreamcast/DreamBurn.sh: * copyright inserted into DreamBurn.sh
20:06 < mnemoc> :)
20:06 < rxr> mnemoc: I need to pull all out of the net - no userspace yet ...
20:06 < mnemoc> it was just delay
20:07 < mnemoc> udhcpd is the faster, lighter and simpler dhcpd server available
20:07 < rxr> delay? I doubt that
20:07 < rxr> the kernel is delaying for 20 seconds ++ ...
20:08 < mnemoc> ending DHCP requests ...... timed out!
20:08 < mnemoc> what was your DHCP server doing all that time?
20:08 < rxr> sending responses ...
20:08 < rxr> that is a kernel bug in some way ...
20:09 < rxr> my dhcpd works for anything else - and it is sending repsonses ...
20:09 < rxr> I doubt a 375 Mhz PPC with a higly optimized T2 on it is too slow to send resonses in time ..
20:09 < rxr> where the above is the server ...
20:10 < mnemoc> 'advanced' DHCP servers spend lot of time sending fancy responses
20:10 < mnemoc> not the one a simple client is expecting
20:11 < mnemoc> is es.tldp.org reachable from there?
20:12 < mnemoc> i got lot of timeouts from freedos dhcp client before i migrated from ISC's to udhcpd
20:14 < rxr> hm
20:14 < mnemoc> now with udhcpd all clients are happy
20:15 < mnemoc> but i haven't tried kernel's
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21:36 < rxr> hm - I say ip=192.168.2.100 - and it sends DHCP requests out anyway ...
21:36 < mnemoc> hehe
21:45 < rxr> when I force via ip=192.168.2.100:255.255.255.0 it works ...
21:45 < rxr> but it still asks the server ...
21:45 < rxr> IP-Config: Got DHCP answer from 192.168.2.1, my address is 192.168.2.100
21:45 < rxr> IP-Config: Complete:
21:45 < rxr> device=eth0, addr=192.168.2.100, mask=255.255.255.0, gw=192.168.2.1,
21:45 < rxr> host=192.168.2.100, domain=localnet, nis-domain=(none),
21:45 < rxr> bootserver=192.168.2.1, rootserver=192.168.2.45, rootpath=
21:46 < mnemoc> i think you request 192.168.2.100:255.255.255.0 to DHCP
21:46 < rxr> ?
21:46 < rxr> Apr 8 21:43:44 obelix dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.2.100 (255.255.255.0) from 00:01:af:02:15:53 via eth0
21:46 < rxr> Apr 8 21:43:44 obelix dhcpd: DHCPACK on 192.168.2.100 to 00:01:af:02:15:53 via eth0
21:47 < mnemoc> :)
21:47 < mnemoc> kernel requested the ip/nm you suggested
21:47 < rxr> I thought ip=$someip is setting the IP - not asking some DHCP server if that could kindly be used ...
21:47 < rxr> yeah - but that stinks ...
21:47 < rxr> either I want DHCP - or I want to hardcode it ...
21:48 < mnemoc> maybe there is a nodhcp or alike option
21:49 < rxr> well - that is of course someone wants to enter of a 9.8kB serial line without backspace support ...
21:49 < rxr> one typo and you can press reset ...
21:51 < rxr> well - not that I can type at 9.6kbit - just that is is all slow ...
21:51 < mnemoc> :)
21:52 < mnemoc> i'll finally go to lunch
21:58 < rxr> cu then
21:58 < rxr> we take evening dinner now ...
21:59 < mnemoc> :)
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22:41 < rxr> SCSI Bus Reset on Debugger Startup [Y/N] = N?
22:41 < rxr> Network PReP-Boot Mode Enable [Y/N] = N? y
22:43 < rxr> ok - that makes .pplus images loadable ...
22:43 < rxr> damn is it already long time ago since I last powered up this board ...
22:43 < rxr> and I once had it all working ...
22:43 < rxr> damn rework ...
22:43 < rxr> at least this time it goes faster ...
22:44 < rxr> 0000:01:04.0: tulip_stop_rxtx() failed
22:44 < rxr> .OO
22:44 < rxr> this kernel seems to have some broken or so tulip driver ...
22:45 < rxr> Sending DHCP requests .<7>0000:01:04.0: tulip_stop_rxtx() failed
22:59 < rxr> weeeeee
22:59 < rxr> IP-Config: Complete:
22:59 < rxr> IP-Config: Complete: device=eth0, addr=192.168.2.100, mask=255.255.255.0, gw=255.255.255.255,
22:59 < rxr> host=test, domain=, nis-domain=(none),
22:59 < rxr> bootserver=192.168.2.1, rootserver=192.168.2.1, rootpath=
22:59 < rxr> Looking up port of RPC 100003/2 on 192.168.2.1
22:59 < rxr> Looking up port of RPC 100005/1 on 192.168.2.1
22:59 < rxr> VFS: Mounted root (nfs filesystem) readonly.
22:59 < rxr> Mounted devfs on /dev
22:59 < rxr> Freeing unused kernel memory: 132k init
23:00 < rxr> # free
23:00 < rxr> # free total used free shared buffers cached
23:00 < rxr> Mem: 127152 5080 122072 0 0 2180
23:00 < rxr> # cat /proc/cpuinfo
23:00 < rxr> processor : 0
23:00 < rxr> cpu : 740/750
23:00 < rxr> temperature : 23-25 C (uncalibrated)
23:00 < rxr> revision : 131.2 (pvr 0008 8302)
23:00 < rxr> bogomips : 731.13
23:00 < rxr> vendor : Motorola MCG
23:00 < rxr> machine : Mesquite cPCI (MCP750) +
23:00 < rxr> cool - board up over NFS
23:00 < rxr> tomorrow I'll prepare the CF card ....
23:00 < rxr> n8 all
23:00 < rxr> ,-) !
23:01 < mnemoc> n8 rene :)
23:46 < jsaw> re
23:51 < sepp_> hi jsaw
23:51 < jsaw> hi sepp_
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