--- Log opened Wed Mar 30 00:00:17 2005 --- Day changed Wed Mar 30 2005 00:00 < valentin> i seldom read ./ because the folks there gets on my nerves 00:00 < sepp> i hate wxT() 00:00 < rxr> sepp: /me too ... 00:00 < rxr> could you grep the .cache files for wswidgets and try to build those ? 00:01 < rxr> against the utf'less wxwidgets ? 00:01 < rxr> sepp: do you use xmule for testing ? 00:01 < sepp> yes 00:01 < sepp> i use audacity xmule wired 00:01 < sepp> http://bloodshed.net/wired/ 00:03 < rxr> interesting ... 00:03 < sepp> i really want to use wired 00:03 < sepp> damn wx unicode crap 00:04 < rxr> sepp: sent the patch for those ,-) 00:04 < rxr> jsaw: awake / around ? 00:05 < sepp> i will test if everything works witout unicode 00:05 < sepp> 1st 00:05 < jsaw> rxr: with half an eye 00:06 < rxr> jsaw: cool 00:06 < rxr> jsaw: do you remeber that unicode stuff in wxwidgets ... 00:06 < jsaw> partially 00:06 < rxr> jsaw: read the next lines - you importet this unstable wxwidgets for s.th. - what was that ? 00:06 < rxr> do you think we could just disable unicode in wxwidgets until that project managed to get utf8 right ? 00:07 < jsaw> which project? 00:07 < jsaw> can you grep the deps, which package uses wxwindows, I do not remember really 00:08 < mnemoc> audacity 00:08 < mnemoc> xmule 00:08 < mnemoc> gnue-* 00:08 < sepp> wired hugin 00:08 < sepp> ont in svn head right now 00:09 < sepp> not 00:09 < mnemoc> amule 00:09 < mnemoc> anjuta 00:09 < mnemoc> bochs! 00:09 < mnemoc> biblestudy 00:09 < mnemoc> wxpython 00:09 < mnemoc> wxmaxima 00:09 < jsaw> wxmaxima and biblestudy 00:09 < rxr> mnemoc: I bet anjuta and bochs are false positives ... 00:10 < jsaw> well, anjuta should support it 00:10 < jsaw> maybe they have to compile something with it 00:10 < mnemoc> as gettext with C# :( 00:11 < mnemoc> i'll have to move mono to stage 3 and rebuild gettext on stage 5 to build last version of lat 00:13 < jsaw> rxr: 00:13 < rxr> do you think we could just disable unicode in wxwidgets until that 00:13 < jsaw> project managed to get utf8 right ? 00:13 < jsaw> rxr: which project do you mean? 00:13 < rxr> audacity and xmule and wired or so ... 00:13 < jsaw> ah, okay, you didn't wxwidgets itself... 00:13 < rxr> unfortunatly yours build with wxwidget - why the normal users audio apps do not ... :-( 00:14 < rxr> well - until wxwidget get's it's ugly macro frickeling right *g* 00:14 < jsaw> so try disabling unicode 00:14 < jsaw> rxr: well, how can you do that differently in a convenient way? 00:15 < sepp> you simply disable --enable-unicode in wxwidgets 00:15 < rxr> jsaw: sepp already wrote the normal apps build then - I hope your science ones continue to build ... 00:15 < jsaw> me too 00:15 < rxr> jsaw: well - the wxwidget ones have been extraordenary ugly ... 00:15 < rxr> macros ... 00:16 < rxr> one could use high level langruage abstraction ... 00:16 < jsaw> rxr: But I mean, that's only "wxT()" that has to be used for every string... 00:16 < rxr> no 00:16 < sepp> no 00:16 < sepp> lol 00:16 < rxr> soem functions don't take it .. 00:16 < sepp> many!!! 00:16 < rxr> okk - many 00:16 < rxr> and copying them is sometimes mess 00:16 < rxr> and many other corner cases ... 00:17 < rxr> I think I tried 2 or 3 hours hacking audacity and xmule to build with it ... 00:17 < rxr> one lonely night some weeks ago ... 00:17 < jsaw> hmm. okay. no unicode. 00:17 < sepp> what i saw - every function that accepted an c string in 2.4 does not work with unicode in 2.5 00:18 < sepp> you noe have to wxT() every c string 00:18 < sepp> now 00:18 < sepp> in calls 00:21 < sepp> i started to patch audacity but i gave up after an 3kb diff 00:23 < mnemoc> what about defining a good cast method _on_ wx2.5's wxString? 00:23 < sepp> wxT() is not the only problem 00:23 < rxr> mnemoc: I tried that to shirk the patch 00:23 < rxr> believe me - I applied 3 hours of real work on it ... 00:23 < mnemoc> uff 00:23 < rxr> I think my diff as way larger than 3kb ... moke liek multiple 10kB 00:24 < sepp> right now wx unicode is really BEEEEEEEP 00:25 < sepp> i greped and saw that i have to change wat to much calls 00:25 < sepp> way* 00:26 < sepp> and i found the same crap in 2 other apps 00:26 < mnemoc> looking into wx25 file list, it wont be hard to install the both 00:27 < mnemoc> and keep wxwidgets24 until all it's dependees get ported to the new thing 00:38 < rxr> sepp: do you send a patch to the list tonight with the wx stuff? 00:38 < rxr> unicode disabling and wired that is? 00:38 < sepp> later 00:38 < sepp> i will go now and dream of wxT() 00:39 < rxr> ok - cu then ,-) 00:39 < rxr> and don't dream too much about that ... 00:39 < sepp> i still have some problems in the apps 00:40 < sepp> but no unicode things 00:41 < sepp> i just updated to wx2.5.4 - i will check the errors tomorrow 00:41 < sepp> I HATE WXWIDGETS 00:42 < sepp> n8 00:42 < mnemoc> n8 sepp 00:47 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.206.151.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit ["leaving"] 01:18 -!- madtux [~mike@cable200-116-192-47.epm.net.co] has joined #t2 01:18 < madtux> hi. 01:29 < keinek> hi everybody 01:29 < madtux> PELOTUDO! 01:29 < keinek> :P 01:56 < rxr> oh - a new day 01:56 < rxr> I can morron again how ugly OS X is ... 01:56 < madtux> :) 01:56 < rxr> oh - hi madtux 01:57 < rxr> AAAAAAAAAAARGGGHGHGHG!!! 01:57 < madtux> hallo ren, Wie geht es dir? 01:57 < rxr> i DO NOT WANT TO BELIEVE THAT !=!=!=!=! 01:57 < rxr> +ikiksdjaf??ioasdjfasoidfj 01:57 < rxr> sadpfgokj anosiefjwae+? 1/4 fgojvsd? 1/ 1/4 fomgj 01:57 < rxr> how can a OS be that damn annoying 01:58 < rxr> do you want to know how many hours I _WASTED_ just to find out that I need to set a /createor ID/ in order to get this peeeeeep OS show my application icon? 01:58 < madtux> tell us 01:58 < rxr> madtux: da ich an OS X sitze nicht so gzut 01:58 < rxr> well - interpret my rant here .. 01:58 < madtux> :) 01:58 < rxr> this osx rises my blood presure to unknown regions ... 01:58 < madtux> rxr, perhaps is time to put it away and load t2 ob the box? 01:59 < rxr> madtux: if it would not be for money I would not even have started to touch osx ... 02:00 < rxr> the only relief: Windows is even magnitudes uglier ... 02:00 < madtux> hehe 02:00 < madtux> :) 02:00 < madtux> great point 02:01 < rxr> ok - Blur - Song 2 - a bit rock to this crap could help ... 02:01 < rxr> so - I have a pretty icon on my OS X Bundle ... 02:01 < rxr> I guess I can release now ... 02:01 < rxr> *g* 02:01 < madtux> hahaha 02:01 < rxr> but I think I'll not call it 0.4 ... 02:02 < rxr> 0.9 should be more reasonable for this "this should soon be what we can ship" ... 02:02 < rxr> that is includes an shiny icon now ... 02:03 < rxr> why the h*ll is the .xml file not updated ... 02:03 < rxr> damn - might it be that I tweaked the XML file for hours when this damn Xcode does s.th. on it's on behind the scene ... 02:03 < madtux> rxr, i see you are having _LOTS_ of fun every single moment u run that osX 02:04 < rxr> madtux: yes - the most fun is dumping t2 patches from the list and apply them from under OSX ... 02:04 < rxr> in /t2 I have svn and co ... 02:04 < rxr> $ echo $PATH 02:04 < rxr> /t2/bin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin 02:04 < rxr> that can make OS X so much mroe usable ... 02:04 < rxr> T2 will have in-system build support for OSX ... 02:05 < rxr> hm - interesting - and I need to mark the driver application - as s.th. else the icon also does not show up .. 02:05 < rxr> interesting crap they coded over there ... 02:06 < rxr> ok - I think I scan from each major application and our own tool - and then off it goes ... 02:08 < rxr> click 02:08 < rxr> nightwish off .. 02:08 < rxr> nothing I can listen to right now ... 02:08 < rxr> the downback of mp3 streams ... 02:08 < rxr> so - guano apes CD ... 02:11 < rxr> madtux: guess how much fun it was to get utf8 chars into the i18n translation files ... 02:11 < rxr> we partly used linux for that since all the osx apps sucked ... 02:11 < rxr> not even the xcode integrated editor sometimes inserted what we typed ... 02:13 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/ExactScan.tiff 02:30 < keinek> hi guys rezound said that need fox-toolkit 02:30 < rxr> yes 02:30 < rxr> we have the package - just fox 02:30 < keinek> but i only found one package for X11 called fox 02:30 < keinek> i was install it 02:30 < keinek> but still dont work 02:30 < keinek> ldconfig meaby? 02:30 < rxr> hm - should work ... 02:31 < keinek> ok i will try 03:06 < rxr> and ? 03:08 < keinek> no 03:08 < keinek> dont work 03:09 < keinek> the log file still said that need fox-toolkit 03:09 -!- ideal [~idealm_@222.65.118.172] has joined #t2 03:14 < rxr> damn - is it late as usual ... 03:14 < rxr> so - software release - rxr can crawl into bed ... 03:14 < madtux> n8 ren 03:15 < rxr> n8 madtux! 03:15 < rxr> madtux: have fun 03:15 < keinek> maybe need a dev of fox toolkit 03:16 < rxr> keinek: someone bult rezound here recently ... 03:16 < rxr> maybe ask on the t2 list for advice - I'm sure that should work out ... 03:16 < rxr> but - /me sleeping now - cu alll 03:16 < keinek> cu rxr 03:16 < keinek> and thanks 03:16 < keinek> i try another sound programa ;) 03:16 < keinek> program* 03:28 -!- madtux [~mike@cable200-116-192-47.epm.net.co] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:38 -!- sparc-kly [~sparc@66.50.157.247] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:53 -!- sparc-kly [~sparc@66.50.157.247] has joined #t2 05:03 < sparc-kly> what is that Mnemosyne Linux 05:03 < sparc-kly> ? 05:04 < sparc-kly> mnemosyne aims to be a modular and extensible target (distribution) for enterprise usage, from desktop to routers and servers. Focused on reliability, scalability and security. ahh ok :D 05:41 < keinek> :) 05:41 < keinek> is the target of mnemoc 07:14 -!- mtr_ [~michael@H80d5.h.pppool.de] has joined #t2 07:22 -!- mtr [~michael@H8b47.h.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 07:35 -!- rxr_ [~rene@p213.54.193.61.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 07:35 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta3 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | @CeBIT Hall 6 H30-532 07:35 -!- Topic set by ao [] [Wed Mar 16 09:21:34 2005] 07:35 [Users #t2] 07:35 [ _Ragnar_] [ ideal] [ keinek] [ mtr_] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly] 07:35 [ CIA-9 ] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ nzg ] [ rxr_] [ valentin ] 07:35 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal] 07:35 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 07:35 -!- [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 07:35 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 10 secs 07:43 -!- rxr [~rene@p213.54.192.10.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 07:54 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.28] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:58 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.32] has joined #t2 08:37 -!- mtr_ [~michael@H80d5.h.pppool.de] has quit ["Verlassend"] 09:02 -!- Netsplit tolkien.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: CIA-9, ideal 09:03 -!- Netsplit over, joins: ideal, CIA-9 09:19 -!- madtux [~mike@cable200-116-192-47.epm.net.co] has joined #t2 09:43 -!- Minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 09:43 < Minto> Goodday to you all 10:09 -!- madtux [~mike@cable200-116-192-47.epm.net.co] has quit ["Leaving"] 10:51 -!- madtux [~mike@cable200-116-192-47.epm.net.co] has joined #t2 12:13 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.206.151.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 12:13 < sepp> hi 12:13 < Minto> Hi sepp 12:18 < sepp> argh i disabled wxwidgets unicode support wired for example compiles now 12:19 < sepp> but there is an bug in the wx gtk code 12:20 < sepp> argh 12:40 < rxr_> moin 12:40 -!- You're now known as rxr 12:43 < sepp> moin 12:43 < Minto> hi rxr 12:45 < Minto> rxr: I have an X related question. On the mailing list I mentioned xpm. Unfortunately it requires X11 header files just as imlib2_loaders did. Might it be possible that x11 is required at build time but not at runtime? 12:45 < rxr> hm - maybe 12:46 < rxr> I have nto yet looked at x11 less evas 12:46 < Minto> I think evas is not the problem. 12:47 < Minto> I tried to add xpm as a package. Even the no X build options include X11/Xlib.h and X11/Xutil.h. 12:48 < Minto> I think these same includes where used by imlib2_loaders 12:49 < rxr> might very well be possible 12:49 < rxr> does the package build ? 12:50 < Minto> xpm? Not without x11. I also have to create a conf file since xpm does not have autoconf/automake stuff. 12:51 < rxr> Minto: I would hack away the xpm code from imlib_loaders ... 12:51 < rxr> who needs xpm anyway. ... ,-) 12:51 < rxr> I mean hack it away conditionally when you bulid without X 12:52 < Minto> Ohhh! there is not xpm stuff in imlib2_loaders. Read the mailing list you'll understand. I though it might be substitute for x11 stuff. 12:53 < Minto> imlib2_loaders needs Pixmap, which I think is X11 stuff. 12:54 < rxr> hm 12:54 < rxr> mayve ask the e17 people ... 12:55 < Minto> Hmm, xpm does not define Pixmap itself (probably takes it from X11), then I don't need it. 12:55 < Minto> rm -rf xpm 12:56 < Minto> Now I have to install all of xorg just for Pixmap. And when installing xorg .conf file build packages with x11 support. 12:57 < Minto> I meant, other e17 packages will be build with X support. 12:58 < rxr> Minto: maybe ask the 17 people what their intention was on this imlib loader stuff ... 12:58 < rxr> or if they could clean that x11 less part up 12:59 < Minto> I will 13:02 < sepp> oh no my wxwidget has a heisenbug 13:03 < sepp> i rebuild wxw glib gtk with debug symbols - now the bug is gone 13:09 < rxr> .oO 13:10 < sepp> whats ".oO" ? 13:11 < rxr> oh oh ooohhh 13:11 < rxr> as in not good ... 13:11 < sepp> ahh 13:11 < rxr> .oO(that is not sooo good) 13:16 < sparc-kly> = 03:10:41 =[0]=> Building base/binutils [2.15.94.0.2.2 2.1.0-rc1]. 13:16 < sparc-kly> -> Parallel build using 4 jobs enabled. 13:16 < sparc-kly> -> Reading package configuration from package directory. 13:16 < sparc-kly> -> Preparing build in src.binutils.1112170240.2586.7f0100 13:16 < sparc-kly> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/0-binutils.out 13:16 < sparc-kly> !> make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 13:17 < sparc-kly> !> make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/mubex/t2-trunk/src.bin .. 13:17 < sparc-kly> !> make[1]: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 13:17 < sparc-kly> !> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mubex/t2-trunk/src.bin .. 13:17 < sparc-kly> !> make: *** [all-binutils] Error 2 13:17 < sparc-kly> !> Due to previous errors, no 0-binutils.log file! 13:17 < sparc-kly> !> (Try enabling xtrace in the config to track an error ins .. 13:17 < sparc-kly> -> $root/var/adm/logs/0-binutils.out -> 0-binutils.err 13:17 < sparc-kly> == 03/30/05 03:15:14 =[0]=> Aborted building package binutils. 13:17 < sparc-kly> any idea ? 13:23 < rxr> no 13:23 < rxr> what is the real error to be seen a bit higher in the log 13:24 < sparc-kly> i enable xtrace now . and rebuild binutils . 13:35 -!- sparc-kly [~sparc@66.50.157.247] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:56 -!- jeru [~jeru@mail.oberlinhaus.de] has joined #t2 13:56 < jeru> hi * 14:04 < rxr> moin jeru 14:04 < jeru> moin rxr :) 14:06 < jeru> rxr: what's the most elegant way to extract the package source tar, which is inside a downloaded tbz2 14:08 < rxr> only one file out of a tbz2 ? 14:08 < rxr> tar $taropt $xtar... the-file-you-want ? 14:08 < jeru> I have a package as tbz2 which includes a tgz and a checksum file and I want it as package for t2 14:08 < valentin> re 14:08 < jeru> hi valentin 14:09 < valentin> linux .... feels good ... :) 14:09 < jeru> rxr: yes ... it's just 1 tgz and one gpg file I think 14:09 < rxr> jeru: and there is more in the archive you do not want to extract ? 14:09 < jeru> inside of the distributed tbz2 14:09 < jeru> nope 14:10 < rxr> valentin: you slept until now ? 14:10 < rxr> jeru: why don't you fully extract it as normal then 14:10 < valentin> no - i am in AH, no more holiday 14:10 < rxr> ah - it is double compressed ... 14:10 < rxr> well 14:11 < rxr> well - I think you can not come around using a temporariy file ... 14:13 < rxr> valentin: linux? what is that? - this hobby os without driver support, crashing, slow and ugly graphic that is even hard to use ? 14:14 < rxr> I heared rumours they even can not code a HTML engine and stole it from Apple's Safari or so ... 14:15 < jeru> seems to me that rxr switched into satire mode again ,) 14:15 < sepp> they also stole all code from sco 14:15 < jeru> damn linux crap 14:15 < rxr> oh 14:15 < rxr> darn ... 14:15 < rxr> jeru: yeah - exactly 14:16 < jeru> will reboot my laptop into "Redmond OS" now .... ,) 14:16 < sepp> i think gtk and wxw was stolen from ms 14:16 * rxr showering and the continuing debugging this quick time fluff .. 14:16 < rxr> sepp: because it contina heisenbugs and sucks so much *g*? 14:16 < sepp> rxr: yup 14:18 < rxr> lol - the osx on screen display for brightness and volume is sooo lagging - impressive ... 14:18 < rxr> even my good old Linux X11 OSD reacts more smoothly ... 14:20 < valentin> rxr: don't forgot the great multitasking of osx :) 14:20 < valentin> imagine you have a process that need much cpu power 14:24 < valentin> then why would you want to waste all that power to other processes like text console or web browser ? 14:24 < valentin> a good scheduler would give all resources to that one important process 14:24 < sepp> i will install dos 14:25 < valentin> dos - that was that old 80286 bios wrapper ? 14:25 < sepp> yes 14:25 < sepp> no multitasking problems 14:25 < sepp> good work 14:26 < valentin> no virtual memory management 14:26 < valentin> no protected modes 14:26 -!- ideal [~idealm_@222.65.118.172] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:26 < valentin> just pure computing 14:26 < valentin> no lousy driver problems 14:26 < valentin> direct hardware access for maximum speed 14:27 -!- ideal [~idealm_@222.65.118.172] has joined #t2 14:27 < sepp> no silly user management 14:27 < sepp> its so great 14:29 < Minto> Have you guys forgotten about CP/M, the thing dos was stolen from. 14:31 < valentin> i thought dos was a hacked version from q-dos which was a CP/M clone 14:31 < Minto> Does anyone know what the MS stands for in MSDos (and MS Windows, Word, Office, ...)? 14:31 < Minto> Me Stole Dos 14:31 < valentin> hehe 14:40 < jeru> Minto: when I was around 12 I hacked Pascal on CPM ,) 14:43 * jeru is moving home now ... cu later 14:43 -!- jeru [~jeru@mail.oberlinhaus.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:47 < mnemoc> moin 14:48 < rxr> moin 15:06 < mnemoc> hi rxr 15:06 < rxr> oh - damn 15:06 < rxr> I prepared a coffee last night and forgot to drink it ... 15:09 < mnemoc> cold tea is nice, but cold coffee? 15:12 < rxr> got into the sink ... 15:13 < mnemoc> :( 15:14 < rxr> but I already consumed a fresh one *g* 15:14 -!- Minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 15:15 < rxr> this osx hacking makes me kaffeein adicted ... 15:25 < mnemoc> :) 15:32 < CIA-9> rene * r7868 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/etc_profile.txt: 15:32 < CIA-9> Stefan Paletta: 15:32 < CIA-9> * construct $PATH in reverse order, so /usr/local/bin overrides 15:32 < CIA-9> /usr/bin and /bin 15:32 < CIA-9> * fixed $PS1 for non-root users of Korn shell 15:34 < mnemoc> shouldn't we mention it was taken from rock and not sent directly to T2? 15:37 < rxr> re 15:37 < rxr> well, ... 15:38 < rxr> forgot to add that .. 15:38 < rxr> I see you applied the iproute2 address patch .. 15:38 < rxr> wouldn't be s.th. like a mac keyword be more intuitive ? 15:38 < rxr> I find address a bit fluffy ... 15:38 < rxr> could be ipv4/6 address or so .. 15:38 < mnemoc> me? 15:39 < mnemoc> i don't remember to have applied that 15:39 < mnemoc> but i'm sick enough to forget such stuff 15:39 < mnemoc> feel free to change it at will 15:41 < rxr> 6951 amery public_address() { 15:41 < rxr> r6951 | amery | 2005-03-02 15:08:40 +0100 (Wed, 02 Mar 2005) | 4 lines 15:41 < rxr> Bernd Petrovitsch: * added support for changing the hw address of an interface to iproute2's rocknet module 15:41 < rxr> I change it to mac, ok ? 15:44 < CIA-9> rene * r7869 /trunk/package/network/iproute2/rocknet_iproute2.sh: * changed Network config address keyword to mac 15:44 < mnemoc> rxr: ok 15:45 < mnemoc> where would to put a 'conduit' function for rocknet? iproute2 module? 15:50 < mnemoc> gweis is a fix machine 15:54 < mnemoc> iptables i mean 16:03 < CIA-9> rene * r7870 /trunk/package/textproc/raptor/raptor.desc: * updated raptor (1.3.1 -> 1.4.5) 16:03 < CIA-9> rene * r7871 /trunk/package/themes/crystal-icons-gnome/crystal-icons-gnome.desc: * updated crystal-icons-gnome (1.0 -> 1.2) 16:05 < rxr> lol 16:05 < rxr> fake: 16:05 < rxr> linux=linux26: update to 2.6.11.2 16:05 < rxr> incremental to the 2.6.11 update, fixes build 16:05 < rxr> on pcc. 16:06 < rxr> not only is that the upstream merged T2 ppc fix, ... nice typo ... 16:06 < CIA-9> rene * r7872 /trunk/package/archiver/alien/alien.desc: * updated alien (8.50 -> 8.51) 16:07 < rxr> fake: 16:07 < rxr> postfix: update to 2.2.0 16:07 < rxr> hehe - we already have 2.2.1 ,-) 16:09 < CIA-9> rene * r7873 /trunk/package/audio/lame/lame.desc: * fixed lame URL tag (from ROCK Linux submaster) 16:11 < CIA-9> rene * r7874 /trunk/package/ (audio/flac/ multimedia/flac/): * moved multimedia/flac info audio/ 16:15 -!- Minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 16:15 < Minto> Hi * 16:15 < Minto> my edb, eet and evas (the ones without x11) get installed in /PKGPREFIX_ERROR. I wonder what could have caused this. Anyone a clue? 16:19 < rxr> erhm - no - never saw that .. 16:20 < Minto> I didn't get any build errors, just noticed the strange location. 16:20 < CIA-9> rene * r7875 /trunk/package/archiver/zip/ (zip.conf zip.desc): * decustmained zip (inspired from ROCK submaster) 16:21 < rxr> well - while flushing submaster, for most stuff I just can say we are already there ... 16:22 -!- jeru [~jeru@p54BFE30B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 16:22 < jeru> rehi 16:23 < Minto> head /var/adm/logs/5-evas.log 16:23 < Minto> ... 16:23 < Minto> APPEND = '-lz -lm -L/PKGPREFIX_ERROR/lib -I/PKGPREFIX_ERROR/include -s -fPIC' 16:23 < Minto> ... 16:23 < Minto> Append: -L/PKGPREFIX_ERROR/lib 16:23 < Minto> Append: -I/PKGPREFIX_ERROR/include 16:23 < Minto> hi jeru 16:23 < jeru> hi Minto 16:26 < Minto> Seems the pkgprefix function is doing this on the last line. 16:26 < valentin> rxr: we should consider giving write access to gweis - that will be more efficient than creeping through submaster 16:30 < rxr> oh - yes a new bunch of patchse ... 16:30 < rxr> my osx freaked out ... 16:30 < rxr> the mouse button remained pressed - withtout a way to clean that state up .. 16:31 < rxr> marking text in thy Terminal.app - after wildly clicking around clicking the touchpad helped ... 16:31 < rxr> guess the ADB kernel driver or so bugged ... 16:35 < CIA-9> rene * r7876 /trunk/package/mail/mutt/mutt.conf: 16:35 < CIA-9> Tobias Hintze : 16:35 < CIA-9> * fixed mutt.conf pop support by passing --enable-pop not --enable-pop3 16:39 < keinek> hi 16:39 < CIA-9> rene * r7877 /trunk/package/security/snort/snort.desc: * updated snort (2.3.0 -> 2.3.2) 16:41 < jeru> oh ... a snort update :) 16:41 < jeru> hi keinek 16:42 < rxr> huh? 16:42 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi?i=2005032914033301903 16:42 < rxr> .oO 16:42 < jeru> keinek: how is your T2 working ? 16:42 < rxr> ok - submaster mostly flushed ... 16:42 < keinek> is fine 16:42 < keinek> but i still working in the update of xmame 16:42 < rxr> there was few interesting stuff in it ... 16:42 < keinek> in a few minutes i will send de patch 16:42 < rxr> 98% we are already there - or newer - or cleaner ... 16:43 < keinek> new version :) 16:43 < keinek> i will add subversion in my template and in the target 16:43 < keinek> but dont work when i do Build-Target. 16:43 -!- mtr [~michael@H80d5.h.pppool.de] has joined #t2 16:44 < keinek> said something like 16:44 < keinek> grep: build/system-2.1.0-rc1-x86-athlon-xp-desktop-expert/var/adm/packages/subversion: No such file or directory 16:44 < keinek> and is right... 16:44 < keinek> but why dont build that so? 16:44 < keinek> the Emerge of subversion is working good 16:45 < keinek> but i like that this package are include in my distro :P 16:45 < jeru> keinek: I guess it wasn't enabled in your target 16:46 < keinek> Mmmm but i do that 16:47 < keinek> i guess that meaby i touch so much the target :) 16:47 < keinek> is the only way to learn :P 16:47 < keinek> now i will testing the patch of xmame. 16:47 < keinek> if everthing working good. 16:47 < keinek> i will send the patch 16:47 < keinek> :) 16:47 < jeru> keinek: wish you happy testing ;) 16:48 < keinek> yeah! ;) 16:48 < CIA-9> rene * r7878 /trunk/scripts/config.in: 16:48 < CIA-9> * fixed typo in lazy, smart and bizare optimisation setting 16:48 < CIA-9> * added better comment to the lazy option 16:48 < CIA-9> * removed the bizare option (...) 16:49 * sepp gives up 16:50 < sepp> the bug is somewhere in the superb gtk type system 16:52 < sepp> wired is very unstable and a wxw 2.4 will also fix audacity 16:53 < sepp> at least fix* 16:58 < mtr> moin moin 17:00 < jeru> moin mtr 17:00 < mtr> upgraded my workstation with a t2 desktop build this afternoon 17:00 < mtr> hi jeru 17:01 < mtr> what is your preferred update method? mine -i pkgs/* ? 17:01 < mtr> i had some troubles with mine, why did mine overwrite /etc/shadow ... ? 17:03 < rxr> hm - it should not 17:03 < rxr> on default it should check the checksum for modifications ... 17:03 < mtr> that's what i had expected, too 17:03 < CIA-9> rene * r7879 /trunk/package/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 17:03 < CIA-9> * updated libraw1394 (0.9.0 -> 1.2.0) 17:03 < CIA-9> * updated libavc1394 (0.4.1 -> 0.5.0) 17:04 < mtr> even mine -r should check md5sum on single files 17:05 < rxr> mtr: only with -f you force it to skip that ... 17:05 < rxr> I could help debugging if it contains a bug .. 17:06 -!- ideal [~idealm_@222.65.118.172] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:07 < mtr> i have to check which different mine versions i have on my system 17:15 < jsaw> re 17:15 < rxr> moin jsaw 17:15 < jeru> hi jsaw 17:15 < jsaw> man, gweis... 17:15 < jsaw> hi rxr, jeru 17:15 < mtr> hi jsaw 17:15 < jsaw> hi mtr 17:15 -!- madtux [~mike@cable200-116-192-47.epm.net.co] has left #t2 ["Leaving"] 17:16 < rxr> mnemoc: btw. I just apply the gweis patches ... 17:19 < jsaw> "fixed lame url tag" hehe 17:19 < rxr> what is so funny ? 17:20 < valentin> hm, grep -v -B does not work ... 17:21 < mtr> there is definitely a problem with mine, it is strange, but reproducable 17:21 < jsaw> rxr: "lame" =[LANG=de]=> lahm,faul 17:22 < rxr> hehe 17:22 < mtr> could someone please confirm this? using mine 0.20 ... 17:22 < mtr> md5sum /etc/wgetrc, change the file, mine -r, and reinstall with mine -i 17:23 < mtr> and your changes to the file are lost ... :( 17:23 < rxr> mtr: mine is strange ... 17:23 < rxr> in 2.2 we will get rid of it ,-) 17:23 < rxr> I take a look 17:23 < mtr> it is strange, in earlier upgrades i saw it working the expected way 17:24 < mtr> and 0.19 -> 0.20 did not change so much 17:25 < CIA-9> chris * r7880 /trunk/package/security/heimdal/heimdal.conf: * fixed heimdal.conf that it will not copy ldap schema files if we've just the openldap libs installed 17:31 < rxr> hm - disk i/o under osx is soo slow ... 17:32 -!- sparc-kly [~sparc@66.50.157.247] has joined #t2 17:32 -!- Minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:33 -!- Minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 17:35 < CIA-9> rene * r7881 /trunk/package/ruby/eruby/eruby.conf: 17:35 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis: 17:35 < CIA-9> * cleaned eruby.conf 17:36 < CIA-9> rene * r7882 /trunk/package/ruby/mod_ruby/mod_ruby.conf: 17:36 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis: 17:36 < CIA-9> * removed custmain from mod_ruby 17:36 < CIA-9> chris * r7883 /trunk/package/mail/qmail/qmail-ldap.conf: * fixed qmail-ldap.conf that it will inject ldap schema file just if we have an openldap server installed 17:37 < CIA-9> mtr * r7884 /trunk/package/gnome2/gal/gal.desc: * updated gal (2.4.0 -> 2.4.1) 17:38 < CIA-9> rene * r7885 /trunk/package/network/net-tools/net-tools.conf: 17:38 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis: 17:38 < CIA-9> * cleaned net-tools to not override makeot/makeinstopt 17:39 < CIA-9> rene * r7886 /trunk/package/base/sysvinit/sysvinit.conf: 17:39 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis: 17:39 < CIA-9> * cleaned sysvinit to not overwrite makeopt/makeinstopt 17:41 < CIA-9> rene * r7887 /trunk/package/base/procinfo/procinfo.conf: 17:41 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis: 17:41 < CIA-9> * cleaned procinfo to not overwrite makeopt/makeinstopt 17:42 < CIA-9> rene * r7888 /trunk/package/network/whois/whois.conf: 17:42 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis: 17:42 < CIA-9> * cleaned whois - and so honor makeopt/makeinstopt 17:43 < CIA-9> rene * r7889 /trunk/package/network/portmap/portmap.conf: 17:43 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis: 17:43 < CIA-9> * cleaned portmap - and so honor makeopt/makeinstopt 17:44 < CIA-9> rene * r7890 /trunk/package/develop/ocaml/ (ocaml.conf ocaml.desc): 17:44 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis: 17:44 < CIA-9> * cleaned ocaml to not overwrite makeopt/makeinstopt 17:44 < CIA-9> * marked it NOPARALLE since the current version does not build parallel 17:46 < CIA-9> rene * r7891 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-media/gnome-media.conf: 17:46 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis: 17:46 < CIA-9> * fixed gonme-media 17:46 < CIA-9> mtr * r7892 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtkhtml/gtkhtml.desc: * updated gtkhtml (3.6.0 -> 3.6.1) 17:46 < rxr> wow - what a CIA flood ... 17:47 < CIA-9> rene * r7893 /trunk/package/x11/fluxbox/ (fluxbox.conf no-bsetroot.diff no-bsetroot.patch): 17:47 < CIA-9> Sebastian Czech: 17:47 < CIA-9> * reworked fluxbox to install bsetroot if blackbox is not available 17:48 < CIA-9> mtr * r7894 /trunk/package/gnome2/evolution/evolution.desc: * updated evolution (2.2.0 -> 2.2.1.1) 17:50 < CIA-9> mtr * r7895 /trunk/package/gnome2/evolution-data-server/evolution-data-server.desc: * updated evolution-data-server (1.2.0 -> 1.2.1) 18:01 < keinek> qemu work fine :) 18:05 < keinek> but crash sometimes :P 18:06 < rxr> normally worked fine - only FreeDOS on PowerPC is a bit glitchy ... 18:06 < keinek> when i try boot from C driver i have BIOS panic at rombios.c, line 7755 18:06 < keinek> and crash. 18:06 < keinek> meaby is something wrong with me. 18:07 < jsaw> cu later 18:07 < rxr> cu jsaw 18:07 < keinek> cu later jsaw 18:08 < keinek> i was send the patch for xmame a few minutes ago. 18:08 < CIA-9> rene * r7896 /trunk/scripts/config.in: 18:08 < CIA-9> * removed expert / onexpert encoding from the CFG_ID - it is just 18:08 < CIA-9> annoying 18:08 < keinek> :) 18:09 < mnemoc> hi! 18:09 < mnemoc> keinek: hi, you forgot to change xmame's [V] 18:09 < keinek> Mmmmm 18:09 < valentin> rxr: is r7896 that item from my todo ? 18:09 < keinek> ups 18:10 < keinek> sorry 18:10 < keinek> i will chage that 18:10 < mtr> hi mnemoc 18:10 < keinek> i was too worry with the cheksum :P 18:10 < mnemoc> hi mtr 18:10 < mnemoc> keinek: use misc/archive/Update.sh 18:11 < mnemoc> anyway, i guess rene will fix that before applying so you don't need to send a new patch 18:11 < mnemoc> if you promise you wont do it again :p 18:12 < keinek> sorry 18:12 < keinek> i was send already new patch 18:12 < keinek> :( 18:12 < mnemoc> rxr: 7896 may need an announcement, because you need to rename your current buildroots 18:13 < mnemoc> keinek: don't worry 18:13 < keinek> ok 18:13 < keinek> we have new xmame :) 18:13 < mnemoc> :) 18:13 < keinek> mnemoc, today i was start test qemu 18:14 < valentin> mnemoc: ack 18:15 < valentin> but in general i appreciate r7896 18:15 < mnemoc> valentin: me too 18:15 < mnemoc> valentin: but the announcement is needed 18:15 < keinek> vmware is better than qemu, but qemu is free... so... i be fine with that. 18:16 < mnemoc> is qemu too slow for you? 18:17 < keinek> qemu in some have so much speed, in other part is so slow. 18:18 < keinek> qemu in some parts have so much speed, in other part is so slow. 18:18 < keinek> * 18:18 < mnemoc> :) 18:18 < valentin> i drive home now, cu later 18:19 < keinek> cu 18:19 < Minto> mnemoc: I want to eliminate custmain from the java packages. But don't know how. Do you know a package for inspiration? 18:19 < mnemoc> let me review java packages 18:20 -!- sepp_ [~sepp@p213.54.205.241.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 18:20 < Minto> For a start the blackdown jre 18:21 < mnemoc> patching on a function hooked to postpatch 18:22 < Minto> Uhmm, need to watch my son for a while, be back soon. 18:22 < mnemoc> ( cd $root/$prefix; sh $builddir/${srctar##*/} $java_install_opt ) <--- this on 'postmake' 18:22 < mnemoc> with makeopt='' and makeinstopt='' 18:22 < mnemoc> aand profile.d part on another level of postmake 18:23 < mnemoc> set autoextract=0 18:23 < mnemoc> uhm... no 18:23 < mnemoc> define srctar outside any function 18:24 < mnemoc> yes, that :p 18:24 < mnemoc> autoextract=0 18:26 < mnemoc> case "$arch" -> srctar outside function 18:26 < mnemoc> patching on postpatch 18:26 < mnemoc> cd $root/$prefix; sh $builddir/${srctar##*/} $java_install_opt on postmake 18:27 < mnemoc> makeinstopt='' and makeopt='' 18:27 < mnemoc> and profile.d on postmake 18:27 < jeru> hi mnemoc :) 18:28 < mnemoc> hi jeru 18:28 < jeru> hope you feel better 18:28 < mnemoc> a bit more 'acceptable' 18:28 < jeru> :) 18:30 < jeru> mnemoc: just a note -> the dansguardian related options X-Forwarding For and virusscanning are broken 18:30 < jeru> at least the patches don't apply anymore ... 18:31 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.206.151.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:33 < jeru> mnemoc: will try to fix it ... but I think not before tomorrow, because I've to leave in 30 min. for doing some sports 18:41 < mnemoc> re 18:41 < mnemoc> how updated it? 18:41 < mnemoc> who* 18:45 < jeru> I updated squid yesterday 18:46 < mnemoc> each version of squid needs a new version of dansguardian and a new version of virusscanning 18:46 -!- pwk__ [~pwk@89630e64d7994b46.node.tor] has joined #t2 18:47 -!- pwk__ is now known as pwk 18:48 < jeru> mnemoc: sorry ... doesn't know that ... do want to revert squid update ? 18:48 < jeru> don't* 18:48 < rxr> I did the init.d changes locally ... 18:49 < rxr> mnemoc: where do we want to have the rocknet stuff? 18:49 < pwk> hi guys, I am currently trying to build the initrd for my hardned linux sources, in a new gentoo install. During the process that is supposed to generate the initrd also dietlibc is built, and I get the errors about unresolved symbols in things like __guard __stack_smash_handler, have you guys got an idea how to solve my problem? 18:50 < mnemoc> i'm not sure about /sbin/_init.d_ neither 18:50 < pwk> asking in this room might seem a bit weird, but I googled you guys talking about exactly the same error message in this room 18:50 < mnemoc> try using T2 :) 18:51 < rxr> yeah - I can also only recomment T2 over s.th. as messy and beta as gentoo ... 18:51 < rxr> but if you need to use gentoo for one reason or another try using a non broken gcc ... 18:51 < rxr> mnemoc: what about /lib/network for the modules? 18:52 < pwk> gcc --version tells me: gcc (GCC) 3.3.5 (Gentoo Linux 3.3.5-r1, ssp-3.3.2-3, pie-8.7.7.1), is that broken? 18:52 < rxr> the config is /etc/conf/network and the master script /sbin/rocknet and the associated ifup / ifdown ... 18:52 < rxr> pwk: your gcc is defect - no idea what gentoo patches into it ... 18:53 < mnemoc> what did you put on sbin/init.d ? 18:54 < rxr> into that dir the init scripts go ... 18:54 < rxr> and the config symlinks into /etc/... 18:55 < mnemoc> and rocknet bin? 18:55 < mnemoc> ok 18:55 < mnemoc> ignore that 18:55 < mnemoc> .oO 18:56 < mnemoc> will we keep it as 'rocknet'? 18:56 < rxr> well, ... - 2.2 will get s.th. else anyway ... - embedded C++, LUA or so ... 18:56 < mnemoc> ok 18:57 < mnemoc> rocknet and rockplug on 2.1 18:59 < mnemoc> rxr: don't forget nettab on /etc/conf too 19:00 < mnemoc> rxr: what about the fix to -update to remove deprecated files? 19:01 < rxr> nettab what ? 19:01 < mnemoc> iwdetect 19:01 < rxr> do we have iwdetect in the tree ? 19:01 < mnemoc> yep 19:02 < mnemoc> and _you_ said /etc/network/nettab for it 19:02 < rxr> oh - I forgot .... 19:02 < rxr> sure - I change all this ... 19:02 < mnemoc> :) 19:02 < mnemoc> and Build-Pkg -update ? 19:03 < mnemoc> this change is a good chance for testing the 'delete deprecated files' thing 19:04 < mnemoc> i also want to automatize .rocknet files installation, and .cron and .init 19:05 < mnemoc> but this change is harmless 19:05 < jeru> I'm out now ... cu later 19:05 < mnemoc> me too 19:05 < mnemoc> cu 19:07 < rxr> yeah - /me too ... 19:08 < rxr> cu 19:40 -!- pwk [~pwk@89630e64d7994b46.node.tor] has left #t2 ["Leaving"] 19:47 < valentin> gentoo ... 20:51 < keinek> qemu is a piece of sh**** 20:52 < keinek> :P 20:52 < keinek> i can't work with that 20:52 < keinek> :( 20:52 < keinek> emulation in windows 98 is unstable. 21:41 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.9.40] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:49 < Minto> I am gonne too. Bye 21:49 -!- Minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla rv:1.7.5/20041110]"] 22:15 < rxr> re 22:15 < rxr> Asterisk 1.0.7 22:26 -!- mtr [~michael@H80d5.h.pppool.de] has quit ["Verlassend"] 22:27 < rxr> http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=10152 22:32 < sepp_> lol 22:32 -!- sepp_ is now known as sepp 22:34 < sepp> should i send every package i make to the list? 22:34 < sepp> i mean things onone uses like squeak? 22:34 < sepp> noone == only me 22:46 < CIA-9> susan * r7897 /trunk/scripts/Download: * removed some ROCK'nism from Download 22:50 < rxr> sepp: squeak? of course - I guess many peple are potentially interesting in that smalltalk env. ... 22:50 < rxr> go and send them all ... 23:00 < sepp> ok i will send them tomorrow 23:00 < sepp> some packages complied but works an bit strange 23:00 < sepp> like rosegarden 23:00 < rxr> yes - keep your time .. 23:01 < rxr> I'm on susan's iBook in the kitchen right now ... and do not want to open an imap client for me .. anyway 23:01 < sepp> i want to check if they work well 23:01 < sepp> 1st 23:02 < rxr> that is always welcome ,-) 23:04 < sepp> i found some apps that compile but do not really work - argh 23:04 < rxr> .oO 23:04 < rxr> Building libnet-tools.a 23:04 < rxr> /usr/src/t2-trunk/build/default-2.1.0-rc1-x86-pentium-mmx-desktop/TOOLCHAIN/tool 23:04 < rxr> s.cross/crosscc/../lib/gcc/i586-t2-linux-gnu/3.4.3/../../../../i586-t2-linux-gnu 23:04 < rxr> /bin/ld: BFD 2.15.94.0.2.2 20041220 internal error, aborting at merge.c line 840 in _bfd_merged_section_offset 23:04 < rxr> I never got an internal error in _ld_ !!! 23:06 < mnemoc> re 23:07 < rxr> hi mnemoc 23:07 < mnemoc> hi rxr 23:09 < sepp> about the heisenbug in xwx - its an problem in gtk but i am to stupid to solve it 23:10 < sepp> i think an wx 2.4 would be ok 23:10 < sepp> to build audacity 23:11 < mnemoc> can wx25 and wx24 coexist? 23:11 < sepp> yes 23:11 < jeru> re 23:11 < sepp> only file that should conflict is wx-config 23:11 < mnemoc> an wxpy24 and wxpy25? 23:11 < sepp> the gtk2 thing 23:12 < mnemoc> what gtk2 thing? 23:13 < sepp> i tested different optimization levels - the only thing that "fixed" the bug was debugging symbols in gtk 23:13 < sepp> wxwidgets with gtk2 support 23:13 < sepp> i tested wxw 2.3.1 and 2.4 23:13 < sepp> same bug 23:14 < mnemoc> so gtk2 push us to use wx25? 23:14 < sepp> the problem is in the type system of gtk 23:14 < mnemoc> i want to remember why i updated wx 23:14 < sepp> gtk2 push us to use wxw 2.4 and 2.5 23:15 < rxr> didn't jsaw updated wx for some of his science stuff ? 23:15 < mnemoc> oh 23:15 < sepp> yes 23:15 < sepp> there are soem apps that need 2.5 23:15 < mnemoc> so we need to have both 23:15 < mnemoc> svn cp wxwidgets{,24} 23:15 < mnemoc> svn cp wxpython{,24} 23:16 < mnemoc> install_wrapper to *24 23:16 < mnemoc> and addapt wx24 dependent packages to use wx24_config 23:16 < sepp> i wanted to add wired but this needs wx25 without unicode... 23:17 < mnemoc> needs wx25? 23:17 < sepp> wired needs it 23:17 < sepp> but its very buggy 23:17 < rxr> well - add wx24 and disable unicode in wx25 for now ? 23:17 < sepp> so maybe i better ifnore it 23:17 < rxr> wired or wx ? 23:17 < mnemoc> wired 23:17 < sepp> wired needs wxwidgets without unicode 23:18 < sepp> 2.5 23:18 < rxr> I meant is wired or wx that broken ? 23:18 < sepp> both not 23:18 < rxr> 23:17 < sepp> wired needs it 23:18 < rxr> 23:17 < sepp> but its very buggy 23:18 < sepp> but wx without unicode might breake some other apps 23:18 < mnemoc> wx25 does unicode, if wired needs an special flavor of wx25, wired is flawed 23:19 < sepp> yes wired is buggy but works 23:19 < sepp> with wx2.5 without unicode 23:19 < mnemoc> do we want three branches of wx? 23:19 < sepp> no 23:19 < rxr> well - but maybe wx25 wo. unicode for now .. 23:20 < sepp> my idea was to ignore wired 23:20 < mnemoc> but wx without unicode might breake some other apps 23:20 < rxr> I mean gnome is broken too - but people want and use it .. 23:20 < rxr> mnemoc: might - my hope is not ... 23:20 < sepp> the wx thing is really complex 23:20 < mnemoc> lets start forking wx into wx24 23:20 < sepp> sorry if i confused you 23:21 < mnemoc> ROCKCFG_WXWIDGETS_NOUNICODE=1 ? 23:21 < sepp> some apps needs wx 2.4 some 2.5 with unicode sone without unicode 23:21 < mnemoc> and wired as an optional package? 23:21 < mnemoc> wired might get fixed some day and get 'X'ed 23:22 < sepp> wired is the only app that need wx2.5 without unicode 23:22 < rxr> please no UNICODE CFG for wx ... 23:22 < sepp> but wx2.5 without unicode has the heisenbug 23:22 < rxr> however having wired as O in tree and X it in some weeks is nice ... 23:23 < mnemoc> i think keep a non-standard wx25 would be a bug on t2 23:24 < sepp> i think for audcity we should use an wx 2.4 23:24 < mnemoc> ROCKCFG_WXWIDGETS_NOUNICODE would let us have an standard wx25 and let people change it to build wired if they want it 23:24 < rxr> well - just setting some option does not make it non standard ... 23:24 < rxr> e.g. if wired has users it can not be that non-stanard if it work on other dists 23:24 < mnemoc> do we all agree in svn cp wxwidgets{,24} ? 23:24 < mnemoc> please no UNICODE CFG for wx ... 23:24 < mnemoc> if you dont use an option you will have a non-standard wx25 23:25 < mnemoc> wx25 is with unicode 23:25 < sepp> i could also add the hugin package with an wx 2.4 version 23:25 < sepp> wx is really crap 23:25 < rxr> var_append confopt ' ' "--enable-unicode" 23:25 < rxr> well - I guess default is not unicode 23:25 < mnemoc> i guess the default is unicode 23:26 < sepp> 2.4 default has no unicode 23:26 < mnemoc> can we make wired build on 2.4? 23:26 < sepp> 2.5 default has unicode 23:26 < rxr> mnemoc: why is that option in the file then ? 23:26 < rxr> then remove the option ,-) 23:26 < mnemoc> svn blame ? 23:27 < mnemoc> i think that was not added because it's fun to have unicode 23:28 < sepp> i think i should write a mail about unicode 23:28 < mnemoc> we never add options for fun 23:28 < mnemoc> so there is a reason to have wx25 and to have wx25 with unicode 23:28 < mnemoc> 5423 jsaw [V] 2.5.3.1 23:29 < mnemoc> r5423 | jsaw | 2005-01-05 02:46:52 -0300 (Wed, 05 Jan 2005) | 2 lines 23:29 < mnemoc> * update wxwidgets (2.4.2.4 -> 2.5.3.1) 23:29 < mnemoc> jsaw! 23:29 < mnemoc> 5423 jsaw var_append confopt ' ' "--enable-unicode" 23:29 < sepp> damn 23:30 < mnemoc> 5781 rene # needed for xmule and audacity 23:30 < mnemoc> 5781 rene var_append confopt ' ' "--enable-compat22" 23:30 < sepp> i will write an long mail about wx 2.4 2.5 with /2.5 without unicode 23:30 < mnemoc> :) 23:31 < sepp> i already tryed to eat my desk... 23:31 < mnemoc> i'll create wxwidgets24 and wxpython24 23:31 < mnemoc> then you patch it :p 23:32 < sepp> ok 23:32 < jeru> good night everybody ... 23:32 < mnemoc> gn8 jeru 23:33 < jeru> yeah ... I've to sleep ... damn sport 23:33 < jeru> :) 23:33 -!- jeru [~jeru@p54BFE30B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:33 < rxr> mnemoc: I hope that change is ok ... 23:34 < sepp> with wx 2.4 and 2.5 at least audacity will work 23:34 < CIA-9> susan * r7898 /trunk/scripts/ (Build-Pkg Emerge-Pkg): 23:34 < CIA-9> * added an ERROR mark to the .cache file at the end of BUILDTIME so 23:34 < CIA-9> Emerge-Pkg has a new tag to track for formerly failed builds 23:34 < CIA-9> * updated the Emerge-Pkg regex to match against the new ERROR mark 23:34 < mnemoc> i'll add them as 'O' until sepp fix them to coexist :) 23:34 < sepp> the wired sound app is an other story 23:35 < mnemoc> that's the third volume of the story 23:35 < sepp> dont ask me the wx utf code is really fubar 23:35 < mnemoc> wx sticks and we agree on that :) 23:36 < CIA-9> amery * r7899 /trunk/scripts/Create-CopyPatch: * fixed Create-CopyPatch to not patch .cache files 23:36 < sepp> i spent 3h to find the heisenbug in wx/gtk+ today 23:36 < sepp> damn 23:37 < rxr> sepp: be happy you tinker on linux - guess what fun we have under OS X ... 23:37 < rxr> there you can not loook into the quick time junk - you have to trial and error - or try to google on the apple devel site ... 23:37 < sepp> but the more i see gtk... 23:37 < rxr> but /me in bed - cu folks ... 23:38 < sepp> i already want to kill the developers 23:39 < sepp> this really makes me angry 23:39 < mnemoc> CIA-9! 23:39 < CIA-9> amery * r7900 /trunk/package/x11/wxwidgets24/ (5 files): * added wxwidgets24 as a copy of wxwidgets just before the update to 2.5 (part 1/2) 23:40 < mnemoc> sepp: which developers? 23:40 < sepp> gnome/glib/gtk 23:41 < sepp> i hope no g* developer reads this ;) 23:41 < mnemoc> hehe 23:41 < sepp> but i find no words for this 23:42 < mnemoc> *angry* is a good 'word' 23:42 < sepp> thats not enough 23:42 < mnemoc> *ANGRY* ? 23:42 < CIA-9> amery * r7901 /trunk/package/x11/wxwidgets24/ (6 files): * added wxwidgets24 (part 2/2) 23:43 < mnemoc> sepp: 790{0,1} is all yours 23:43 < sepp> in my broken english it would be WTF would any one with a brain wrapps around gtk?????????????????/ 23:44 < mnemoc> wtf is light :) 23:44 < sepp> and who developed the wx unicode crap 23:45 < mnemoc> that's just a piece of sh*t 23:45 < sepp> i already wanted to eat my mouse 23:46 < mnemoc> my mouse pad has been bite lot of times :) 23:46 < CIA-9> amery * r7902 /trunk/package/python/wxpython24/ (. wxpython.cache wxpython.conf wxpython.desc): * added wxpython24 as a copy of wxpython just before the update to 2.5 (part 1/2) 23:46 < sepp> audacity and wired are nice apps but wx ARRRGHHHH 23:47 < mnemoc> that's why new projects are choosing mono to get crossplatform-ism 23:48 < sepp> damn i hope dylan develops well 23:48 < mnemoc> dylan? 23:48 < sepp> ask freshmeat 23:48 < CIA-9> amery * r7903 /trunk/package/python/wxpython24/ (6 files): * added wxpython24 (part 2/2) 23:49 < sepp> its an very nice lisp/smalltalk based lang. 23:49 < mnemoc> .oO( lisp )o 23:49 < mnemoc> do you want to fix clisp? :p 23:50 < sepp> its broken? 23:50 < mnemoc> it frozes during tests 23:50 < mnemoc> killing your machine with inmortal gdb processes 23:50 < sepp> i made an X on my todo list ;) 23:50 < mnemoc> :) 23:51 < sepp> http://www.gwydiondylan.org/ 23:53 < CIA-9> amery * r7904 /trunk/package/ (5 files in 2 dirs): * injected T2 Copyright note to wxpython24 and wxwidgets24 23:54 < mnemoc> sepp: wxpython24 and wxwidgets24 are taged as 'optional', but they are ready for you. using INSTALL_WRAPPER_FILTER you can rename output on cp/install 23:55 < mnemoc> but patches would be needed to use wx24-config 23:55 < sepp> np 23:56 < sepp> i will try to build audacity with wx 24 later 23:56 < mnemoc> :) 23:57 < mnemoc> you may ask rene for a write account 23:57 < sepp> i only fix things in my build 23:57 < sepp> its ok to send patches 23:58 < mnemoc> ok :) 23:59 < sepp> i am really pissed with xwx --- Log closed Thu Mar 31 00:00:02 2005