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00:00 < keinek> no way!
00:00 < keinek> is free
00:00 < keinek> realy free
00:00 < keinek> you are in germany
00:00 < keinek> ?
00:00 < keinek> tell me your number i will call you :)
00:01 < keinek> but remember
00:01 < keinek> my english is very bad
00:01 < valentin> maybe tomorow, my girl sleeps already
00:01 < valentin> save your minutes for another country :)
00:02 < madtux> keinek, don't worry about your english you can talk germany with him
00:02 < keinek> hahaha
00:02 < keinek> sure
00:02 < keinek> whay time is there valentin?
00:02 < valentin> 00:03
00:02 < keinek> nooooo
00:02 < keinek> sorry rxr
00:02 < keinek> :D
00:03 < valentin> rxr is awake, so what
00:03 < keinek> in argentina is 19:03
00:03 < valentin> it would be 23:03 if it were yesterday
00:03 < valentin> today we have that stupid "daylight saving"
00:04 < valentin> you are right - i do not even have to purchase sip-minutes to get my 5 free minutes
00:04 < valentin> i can even use that from germany
00:04 < valentin> that sounds interessting
00:04 < valentin> keinek: can you try a linux sip softphone with that ?
00:05 < keinek> yes
00:05 < keinek> there are kphone
00:05 < keinek> and another programs too
00:06 < keinek> but this client in windows ask for a secret word that appear in a picure
00:06 < keinek> like in the yahoo or google.
00:06 < keinek> picture*
00:06 < keinek> right?
00:06 < valentin> but the website tells me i can use any softphone
00:07 < valentin> picture
00:07 < keinek> yes
00:07 < keinek> you can
00:07 < valentin> you speak german ?
00:07 < keinek> i was try only x-lite
00:07 < madtux> keinek, dile "ja"
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00:07 < sepp> back
00:07 < keinek> i try x-lite with wine but dont work.
00:07 < keinek> ja?
00:08 < valentin> :D
00:11 < sepp> there is an problem with libpng - in /usr i have png.h pngconf.h (dead links) they should be in /usr/include
00:11 < madtux> anyone had problems building mine-20
00:11 < madtux> ?
00:11 < valentin> on the other hand - who wants to call landline anyway ? in a few years we all will be using VoIP exclusively ....
00:12 < madtux> 0.20 i mean
00:12 < valentin> sepp: in /usr ?
00:12 < sepp> valentin: yes
00:13 < sepp> png.h link to libpng12/png.h and pngconf.h link to libpng12/png.h
00:13 < sepp> both files are in /usr not in /usr/include
00:13 < valentin> maybe some issue with an install wrapper or so ?
00:14 < sepp> Revision: 7784
00:15 < rxr> sepp: I do not remeber off hand - but wasn't some compatibility linking rmeoved from our png package some days / weeks ago ?
00:16 < sepp> rxr: hmm i build rev. 7784 and i got this
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00:18 < keinek> sorry
00:18 < keinek> the light was off
00:18 < keinek> electric cut
00:18 < keinek> without power
00:19 < keinek> or whatever way that i can tell that the all machine will off
00:19 < sepp> the loop-aes package it also completely broken
00:19 < keinek> but the lights back again :)
00:19 < rxr> sepp: yes - taht might very well be - (guess nearly no user here ...)
00:20 < sepp> should i fix it?
00:20 < sepp> i use loop-aes
00:20 < rxr> if you want too ,-)
00:20 < rxr> every fix is great
00:20 < sepp> ok
00:21 < rxr> sepp: i see the libpng symlinking is still there ..
00:21 < rxr> maybe I have dreamed s.th. ...
00:21 < rxr> in which way are the symlinks defect ?
00:21 < sepp> they should be in /usr/include
00:21 < sepp> not in /usr
00:21 < rxr> ah i see ...
00:22 < valentin> keinek: i downloaded the mac version of their softphone but after entering the password from that picture and registering that tool crashed
00:22 < sepp> and in the build root i have 2 "voodoo" files
00:22 < sepp> a2ps-print.el and a2ps.el
00:22 < keinek> valentin, what said?
00:22 < valentin> i got a backtrace, but that is not helpfull
00:23 < rxr> sepp: can you test if the libpng symlinking is fixed in HEAD ?
00:23 < CIA-9> rene * r7819 /trunk/package/graphic/libpng/libpng.conf: * most probably fixed dead libpng symlinks - UNTESTED
00:23 < sepp> yes
00:23 < sepp> moment
00:23 < keinek> remember that the name must have first and last name
00:23 < rxr> sepp: I guess with those dead links lingering around without any other regression we could get rid of those links completely, no ?
00:23 < rxr> sepp: do you have a user of that png header locations ?
00:24 < sepp> user?
00:24 < rxr> user as in utilizing package ...
00:24 < keinek> valentin: if you fill only one name, the program return a error
00:24 < rxr> a packages that uses that location ..
00:24 < sepp> not sure
00:24 < valentin> keinek: can i register at their website ?
00:25 < keinek> Mmmm i dont know
00:25 < sepp> rxr: you want to update util-linux?
00:25 < sepp> so that i can fix loop-aes
00:25 < keinek> valentin, the program tell you something before crash?
00:26 < sepp> if not i have to fix the mount/swapon/losetup patch
00:26 < rxr> sepp: I think updateing util-linux should be fine
00:27 < rxr> about what version change are we speaking ?
00:27 < sepp> latest
00:27 < sepp> 2.12q ?
00:27 < valentin> keinek: no
00:27 < valentin> how can i return to that registration dialog ?
00:27 < keinek> valentin : Mmmm you fill all when the program start?
00:28 < keinek> valentin, first and last name?
00:28 < keinek> valentin, dont enter numbers
00:28 < sepp> rxr: yes its util-linux-2.12q
00:28 < keinek> valentin, try enter anything like "lkalsdlk lkadslkalsd" "asdasd@hotmail.com" and the password the same "asdfg" "asdfg"
00:28 < valentin> keinek: i did - then it crashed.
00:28 < rxr> oh - that are quite a vew versions difference (2.12a -> 2.12.q ...)
00:29 < rxr> sepp: well - update it ,-)
00:29 < keinek> keinek: you download the x - lite?
00:29 < keinek> :D
00:29 < keinek> valentin: you download the x - lite?
00:30 < valentin> no - SIPphone Lite
00:30 < valentin> but after entering the stuff in the dialog it crashes
00:30 < valentin> and i have no user name to loggin
00:31 < keinek> yes is the same
00:31 < sepp> rxr: for the new packages i made, any tip who i find the right [P] without rebuilding everything?
00:31 < sepp> how*
00:31 < valentin> ah - they mailed me
00:32 < valentin> now i get an account by mail
00:32 < keinek> great
00:32 < rxr> sepp: if they have not vitial dependencies or other stuff they depend on choose s.th. very high - like 800.00
00:32 < rxr> 0
00:33 < rxr> well - if they depend on each other - increase that no. for every package ...
00:33 < sepp> rxr: ok thanks
00:33 < rxr> there are sorter helpers in the scripts directory - hower they work via the caches deps over all packages ...
00:34 < rxr> sepp: we will get rid of that static sorting - at least in 2.2 - maybe even backported to 2.1 - but I guess rather not, due to the quite frozen state of 2.1 ...
00:34 < sepp> btw 5-kdelibs.log "pkg-config installed, but no OpenEXR Libraries were found
00:34 < sepp> "
00:34 < sepp> openexr should be build before kdelibs
00:34 < rxr> oh - interesting ... ,-)
00:35 < rxr> I did not know kde has openexr support ...
00:35 < sepp> i dont know if they want to use hdri images as bg...
00:35 < sepp> who knows
00:35 < rxr> sepp in 2.2 the packages will automatically be sorted for the build accordingly to the dependency graph generated on-the-fly from the .cache files ...
00:35 < rxr> no static priority anymore ...
00:36 < sepp> nice
00:36 < sepp> but what if i use abiword but not the gnome crap?
00:36 < rxr> deps on in the selection will be ignored ...
00:36 < sepp> ok
00:36 < sepp> sounds really good
00:37 < rxr> sepp: and you can use the deps for pkg selection ..
00:37 < CIA-9> rene * r7820 /trunk/package/graphic/openexr/openexr.desc: * moved openexr to build before kdelibs
00:37 < rxr> like you specifiy that your target sould run with kdebase, xmms, mplayer and linux26 and the needed package will be selected ...
00:38 < sepp> and do you have an 5-openmotif.log?
00:38 < rxr> I do this in a hacky and cheap way for the gnome packages today in the desktop target - to not fiddle with the many packages around manually ...
00:38 < sepp> its full of errors
00:38 < rxr> ouh
00:38 < sepp> but it does not fail
00:38 < valentin> so, no i try to do a call
00:39 < keinek> the supply of electricity was cut, a few minutes ago
00:39 < rxr> sepp: currently no - too bad mnemoc_ does not copy the log files to his public dir ...
00:39 < valentin> keinek: do i have to do 04930 or +4930 as a number ?
00:39 < rxr> sepp: I built it manually
00:40 < sepp> rxr: ok
00:40 < rxr> s/built/build/ right now ..
00:40 < keinek>
00:40 < keinek> I think that the best thing will be to use this free translator 0nline
00:40 < keinek> valentin, 0049
00:41 < valentin> COOL
00:41 < valentin> i called myself
00:41 < rxr> valentin: wanna call me ...
00:42 < valentin> now i have 5 free minutes/day - at least one thing to do in OSX
00:42 < valentin> rxr: ok
00:42 < keinek> when I called to rene two " 0 " adds and do not use 3 that it was between parentheses
00:42 < keinek> if you register again you can have all the minutes that you want
00:43 < keinek>
00:43 < keinek> in these moments I am using a translator, I would love having the translator integrated to my program of irc,
00:44 < keinek>
00:44 < keinek> They are not going to deny that it is much more agreeable to read me this way
00:45 < valentin> phonequality from berlin to berlin over that us server is quite bad
00:45 < valentin> and about 1s lag
00:45 < keinek>
00:45 < keinek> now to speak by phone it would have that it uses a synthesizer of voice.
00:46 < keinek> remembers to stop doing any thing with the line of adsl, leaving the whole of the breadth of band is the best thing.
00:46 < keinek>
00:46 < keinek> Schritt 1.
00:46 < keinek>
00:46 < keinek> Geben Sie den zu übersetzenden Text oder die zu übersetzenden Worte ein: Beispiel: "Abacho, die starke Suchmaschine!".
00:46 < keinek>
00:46 < keinek> Schritt 2.
00:46 < keinek> Wählen der Übersetzungsart:
00:46 < keinek> Schritt 3.
00:46 < keinek>
00:46 < keinek> Der Text-Translator ist dafür konzipiert, kurze Texte sinnerfassend zu übersetzen. Aber: Er ist und bleibt eine Maschine, die ihre Aufgabe ohne Berücksichtigung grammatikalischer Feinheiten oder der Intention des Autors erledigt. Die Übersetzungen werden automatisch mit modernster Software erstellt und entsprechen dem heute möglichen Qualitäts-Standard.
00:46 < keinek> 0
00:46 < keinek> fuc*!
00:46 < keinek> sorry
00:46 < keinek> he remembers to stop doing any thing with the line of adsl, leaving the whole of the breadth of band is the best thing.
00:48 < keinek> when it copies and gives one not always salt the things since one he wants
00:48 < keinek> valentin, but .... is free.
00:51 < rxr> ok - let's test if my PDF writing crashes badly - or yields a PDF ,-)
00:52 < rxr> sepp: the openmotif log is indeed filled with errors - but only at the end - doing some example ro so stuff?
00:52 < keinek> This week will remember her for that many things were important, I learned many things and had many discoveries.
00:52 < rxr> sepp: after the install run ...
00:53 < rxr> maybe caused my install.man or so ... ?
00:53 < sepp> it produces an working lib...
00:53 < sepp> libXm
00:53 < rxr> openmotif also cries for a decustmain-isation
00:54 < keinek> Last week, it was a little depressed, that's why resign at a few hours of work, to be able to devote oneself a little more to all this that so much I like.
00:54 < keinek> :)
00:54 < rxr> ,-)
00:55 < keinek> From now on a translator will use to be able to say to them everything what I want, they will realize that I speak very much.
00:55 < sepp> rxr: the png fix works ;)
00:56 < rxr> good
00:56 < rxr> even better would be if you find out if we really need it ,-)
00:56 < keinek> I joined the lists of mail of xmame and prozilla to know when there is a new version
00:58 < keinek>
00:58 < keinek> Ich schloß mich die Listen der Post von xmame und prozilla an, um zu wissen, wenn es eine neue Version gibt
00:58 < keinek> is that german?
00:58 < sepp> rxr: from my 290 pkgs no package links again libpng
00:59 < rxr> keinek: yes - mostly ,-)
01:00 < keinek> :)
01:01 < sepp> strange
01:02 < valentin> Listen der Post - i guess that should be mailinglists ? *g*
01:02 < sepp> LOL
01:02 < sepp> you could use it as rng
01:03 < valentin> or as a signature method - translate three times back and forth and take the first three worfds as a crytographic secure hash
01:03 < keinek> in reality it is the same that it paste above in English
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01:05 < keinek> valentin, how were these calls free?
01:05 < valentin> keinek: sorry ?
01:06 < valentin> i did not enter any credid card information so i guess they are free
01:07 < keinek> then everything went out well.
01:08 < keinek> we already find something entertaining and perhaps it is the best page that I found in this year.
01:08 < sepp> if i patch something in the src of an pkg. should i add an leading like why?
01:08 < sepp> some *.patch has this "feature"
01:09 < sepp> have
01:09 < rxr> sepp: yes - add a note - that is very good style ...
01:09 < rxr> yes - all new patches shoudl ahve this feature ...
01:09 < sepp> ok
01:10 < sepp> i think you should update the howto send patches text
01:10 < sepp> to safe time if the next stupid user asks such things
01:11 < rxr> ehrm - I wrote a PDF
01:11 < rxr> coold!
01:11 < rxr> cool even
01:11 < rxr> it contais the wanted content !!!!
01:11 < valentin> rxr: nice
01:11 < rxr> wow - writing PDF was easier than writing plain old bitmaps ... !
01:14 < keinek> rene from where you create the pdf?
01:15 < keinek> do you make anything similar what it can do openoffice but in another context?
01:18 < rxr> keinek: from our commercial OSX stuff ... ,-) like scanner driver and such ... *g*
01:20 < keinek> *g* y like LOL ?
01:21 < rxr> keinek: ?
01:27 < keinek> *g* is like LOL ?
01:28 < rxr> ah - yes *g* is *grin*
01:41 < sepp> good night
01:42 < sepp> i will dream of the 23 used string representations in c++
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01:47 < CIA-9> rene * r7821 /trunk/package/develop/apr-util/apr-util.conf:
01:47 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis and Rene Rebe:
01:47 < CIA-9> * added (open)ldap support to apr-util
01:57 * rxr off folks - n8 all
02:04 < valentin> besides the 5 free minutes sipphone.com is quite expensive
02:05 < valentin> for a call to chile i pay 1.5 EuroCent / Minute when i use a german telco provider
02:05 < valentin> for us 1.7 EC/min
02:06 < valentin> with sipphone that would be 5C and 2C
02:08 < valentin> gn8
02:45 < mnemoc_> moin
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03:03 < ideal> morning
03:05 < _Ragnar_> moin
03:06 < mnemoc_> hi ideal
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03:14 < ideal> hi mnemoc_
03:15 < mnemoc_> hi sparc-kly
03:15 < sparc-kly> hi mnemoc :P
03:17 < ideal> hi, _Ragnar_
03:17 < ideal> hi, sparc-kly
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04:44 < madtux> re
04:45 < mnemoc_> mike@co :)
04:46 < madtux> mike@cl soon..
04:46 < mnemoc_> uhm?
04:46 < madtux> :)
04:47 < mnemoc_> uhm^2?
04:47 < madtux> .oO( Un dia tu cel sonara, y el madtux te dira donde te busco para que nos vayamos a almorzar )
04:47 < mnemoc_> pff
04:48 < mnemoc_> i'm only at santiago monday and wednesday
04:49 < madtux> good to know..
04:49 < madtux> query
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06:01 < CIA-9> amery * r7822 /trunk/package/emulators/xmame/xmame.cache: * added cache file for xmame
06:44 < CIA-9> amery * r7823 /trunk/package/mail/nullmailer/ (4 files): * updated nullmailer localqueue patch to 1.0
06:45 < CIA-9> amery * r7824 /trunk/package/network/prozilla/prozilla.cache: * added cache file for prozilla
06:46 < CIA-9> amery * r7825 /trunk/package/python/pyrexc/pyrexc.cache: * added cache file for pyrexc
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07:34 -!- Topic set by ao [] [Wed Mar 16 09:21:34 2005]
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07:36 < CIA-9> amery * r7828 /trunk/package/ (9 files in 9 dirs): * added cache file for lcdproc, and some others updated.
07:36 < mnemoc> *yawn*
07:36 < mnemoc> good night
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07:37 < _Ragnar_> nini
07:37 < _Ragnar_> hey mipe
07:37 < mipe> hi _Ragnar_
07:37 < _Ragnar_> how's it going?
07:37 < mipe> not bad,and you?
07:38 < _Ragnar_> fine :)
07:38 < mipe> second try on installing t2,this time without runit ,*grrr*
07:38 < _Ragnar_> :D
07:38 < _Ragnar_> does it suck?
07:39 < mipe> _Ragnar_:well i dont know it very well, some might like it. i might like it when i know how it works
07:39 < _Ragnar_> ah okay :)
07:40 < mipe> oh who i'm kidding,yes it sucks
07:41 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
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09:17 < rxr> re
09:21 < rxr> Sendmail 8.13.4
09:21 < rxr> ^- update anyone?
09:23 < rxr> Gnome Removed From Slackware
09:26 < madtux> rxr, i will update it
09:27 < rxr> hi madtux !
09:34 < rxr> so /me posted comments to about T2 to two slashdot articles: "no gnome in slackware" and "gentoo 2005.0"
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09:49 < CIA-9> rene * r7829 /trunk/package/x11/nxcomp/ (gcc34.patch nxcomp.desc):
09:49 < CIA-9> Herhard Weis :
09:49 < CIA-9> * updated nxcomp (1.4.0-29 -> 1.4.0-31)
09:51 < CIA-9> rene * r7830 /trunk/package/gnome2/loudmouth/loudmouth_gnutls.patch:
09:51 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis :
09:51 < CIA-9> * fixed loudmouth for the actual gnutls version
09:53 < CIA-9> rene * r7831 /trunk/package/gnome2/libsoup/libsoup_gnutls.patch:
09:53 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis :
09:53 < CIA-9> * fixed libsoup for the actual gnutls version
10:14 < rxr> hey - my bitmap writing code _might_ be finished in some minutes !!
10:18 < rxr> -rw-r--r-- 1 rene rene 0 28 Mar 10:18 ../test.png
10:18 < rxr> well - ok despite beeing empty ...
10:26 < rxr> -rw-r--r-- 1 rene rene 194273 28 Mar 10:26 ../test.png
10:26 < rxr> what about that one *g*
10:27 < rxr> ../test.png: PNG image data, 305 x 311, 8-bit/color RGB, non-interlaced
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11:00 < jsaw> re
11:01 < jsaw> mnemoc: OOo ...
11:01 < rxr> moin jsaw !
11:01 < jsaw> hi rxr :)
11:01 < jsaw> me impressed, ooo failed in the install stage -> which means it build...
11:02 < jsaw> rxr: did you see my logo design?
11:02 < rxr> yes ,-)
11:02 < rxr> but currently I'm very very busy ...
11:03 < jsaw> no no no, I just wanted to ask... not to push anything
11:03 < rxr> ok ,-)
11:03 < rxr> on the first look I thought wow - nice work
11:03 < rxr> I think that was during cebit, right?
11:03 < rxr> later on I thought we might need something more colorful and easier to read
11:03 < jsaw> well, it's just another proposal
11:04 < rxr> but I need to to take a look again
11:04 < rxr> so far it was the best logo artwork ,-)
11:04 < jsaw> but a place where we keep all proposal would be nice
11:04 < rxr> currently I'm fighting the QuickTime on OSX and it's strange behaviour exporting and compressing the data I hand to it ...
11:05 < rxr> jsaw: indeed ,-)
11:05 < rxr> maybe svn co it into the www-t2 trunk ?
11:05 < jsaw> rxr: yeah, I read it, QD and so on...
11:05 < rxr> yet - but that scanenr stuff should be mostly done then - and hopefully the money starting to flow - ... so I can focus on the important stuff again ...
11:06 < jsaw> imagine a startrek society without money...
11:06 < rxr> yeah - maybe that is why I keep that watching ,-)
11:07 < rxr> without damn policans we might never get there ... .-(
11:07 < jsaw> politicians? .oO(I'd blame it on the big corps twisting minds of 90% of the society)
11:09 < rxr> well - that too - but policans could lead there a bit better and not let all the crap from the companies pass thru - e.g. patents ...
11:09 < jsaw> ok. admitted.
11:09 < rxr> when they would say - software patents and IP law "what the f*ck!" ...
11:10 < rxr> (of course the future world will not depend 100% on software patents - just yet another example ..)
11:10 < jsaw> well at least the ep seems to be _trying_ to do the job
11:11 < jsaw> but as long as the council is paid^Wthere...
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11:19 < rxr> wonderful - my PDF saving works great - and the ordernary bitmap saving get's on my nervs because QuickTime is buggy ...
11:19 < rxr> not doing what I tell that beast to do ...
11:20 < valentin> rxr: that is often the case with apple apis
11:21 < rxr> it already took me 4 hours++ to dig thru all the API mess to plug it together ...
11:21 < rxr> damn ...
11:21 < rxr> I think I shower first ...
11:22 < rxr> valentin: you jump into the train soon ?
11:22 < valentin> rxr: go showering, i will not be that fast
11:24 < rxr> so see you a bit past 12:00 then *g* ?
11:44 < rxr> ok - I shower
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11:45 < rxr> it is too boring that converting old style Quick Draw stuff to recent Core Graphics and then writing a PDF works and just dumping the original Quick Draw PICT into a file via QuickTime just produces inaccurate images ...
11:45 < rxr> sigh
11:45 < rxr> cu
12:39 < rxr> so
13:22 < rxr> ./configure: line 34777: /usr/bin/sed: cannot execute binary file
13:22 < rxr> # file /usr/bin/sed
13:22 < rxr> /usr/bin/sed: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (ARM), statically linked, stripped
13:22 < rxr> interesting that I do not have more problem ... on that x86 box ...
13:23 < CIA-9> rene * r7832 /trunk/package/e17/evidence/evidence.conf: * fixed evidence to find the avifile and evas includes
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13:25 < rxr> hi madtux
13:25 < rxr> ah - our usual sed is at /bin - that is why most stuff sildently continued to work ...
13:26 < madtux> hi ren
13:29 < rxr> hm - my cup seems to have a conditional hole ...
13:29 < rxr> when I code on OSX I fill coffe in and some minutes later the content already vanished ...
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13:32 < Minto> Moin
13:34 < rxr> moin Minto
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13:40 < sepp> hi
13:41 < sepp> whats the mail address of the devel mailing list?
13:41 < rxr> t2@exactcode.de
13:41 < sepp> ok
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13:43 < rxr> damn us ny athlon build box already old ..
13:43 < rxr> T2 Linux 2.1.0-beta (2004/11/15)
13:43 < rxr> rebuilding glibc ...
13:44 < rxr> in-system - hope it goes well ...
13:46 < Minto> rxr: that's nothing mine is still a rock from 11-2003
13:48 < rxr> well - I have also running server as old as that ...
13:48 < sepp> is there any reason why t2 has an development version of wxwidgets?
13:49 < rxr> sepp: yes - some applications alread need it as fas as jsaw told me ...
13:49 < rxr> ROCK Linux 1.7-snapshot (2003/02/07)
13:49 < rxr> ^- thas was my initial 1.7 build - and it is still runnin in production *g*
13:49 < rxr> sepp: do you debug the problem e.g. with audacity ?
13:49 < Minto> Ahh, you beat me
13:50 < sepp> yes and wired
13:50 < sepp> other sound app
13:50 < rxr> I already thought about adding the stable version, too ...
13:51 < rxr> sepp: you could try downdating it and see if the other wxwidget apps all build - but jsaw said some need the devel version features ...
13:53 < CIA-9> miguelb * r7834 /trunk/package/x86/memtest86/memtest86.desc: * updated memtest86 (1.50 -> 1.51)
14:09 < CIA-9> rene * r7835 /trunk/package/audio/hydrogen/ (. hydrogen.desc string.patch):
14:09 < CIA-9> Sebastian Czech:
14:09 < CIA-9> * added hydrogen (0.9.1)
14:09 < madtux> :)
14:32 < valentin> need to reboot - fucking broken OSX usb stack
14:43 < rxr> guess one day this channel get's nominated as "best source for osx bashing"
14:45 < CIA-9> miguelb * r7836 /trunk/package/mail/sendmail/sendmail.desc: * updated sendmail (8.13.3 -> 8.13.4)
14:47 < mnemoc> moin
14:47 < madtux> buenos dias ale
14:47 < mnemoc> mike! how are you?
14:48 < madtux> mnemoc, doing great
14:48 < madtux> :)
14:48 < madtux> you?
14:48 < madtux> slept well my friend?
14:48 < mnemoc> just fine ;)
14:49 < madtux> no headache?
14:50 < mnemoc> no, but my throat is killing me
14:50 < madtux> stop screaming and you will be fine
14:51 < mnemoc> i can't scream if i can't talk :p
14:53 < mnemoc> madtux: http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/T2/diff/gnome-libs14.diff <--- look the new dependencies of gnome-lib14
14:55 < rxr> hi mnemoc
14:55 < mnemoc> hi rxr
14:55 < rxr> mnemoc: look into the dep.debug in var/adm for gnome-libs14 ...
14:55 < rxr> then you see where they come from ..
14:57 < madtux> mnemoc, read http://cybux.linuxpreview.org/index.php
14:58 < madtux> interesting mnemoc
14:59 < mnemoc> rxr: opt/gnome2/share/gtk-doc/html/*/index.sgml
14:59 < rxr> ouhm
15:00 < rxr> executing what ?
15:01 < mnemoc> how can i see that?
15:02 < mnemoc> btw, i never noticed dep-debug
15:02 < rxr> it should be the first row ...
15:02 < rxr> mnemoc: so you know now ,-)
15:02 < rxr> ah - no - sorry ...
15:03 < mnemoc> it's the package name
15:05 < rxr> yep I just noticed ...
15:05 < rxr> can you take a look in the log what might have run that touched that files - some gtk-doc or so ?
15:06 < rxr> we should remove those from the dep resolving then ...
15:06 < mnemoc> ok
15:07 < mnemoc> btw, why gawk dep was injected yesterday to all my rebuilds? some generic parse-config?
15:07 < mnemoc> uhm..... there is a --disable-gtk-doc
15:08 < mnemoc> but it does lots of:
15:08 < mnemoc> make[3]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'.
15:08 < mnemoc> /bin/sh ../../mkinstalldirs /opt/gnome/share/gtk-doc/html/libart
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15:23 < rxr> hm - I wonder that awk was not in already ...
15:24 < rxr> --disable-gtk-doc is not the way to go ...
15:24 < rxr> or did you do just for testing ...
15:25 < mnemoc> that's not mine
15:25 < mnemoc> it just on my log :)
15:26 < rxr> we should add a regex to
15:28 < rxr> seems we have no flistdel depdel equivalent right now - seems we should add one ...
15:28 < rxr> no ?
15:29 < mnemoc> that's an easy hack
15:30 < mnemoc> but is it right?
15:33 < rxr> yes
15:34 < rxr> we often have tools that read files in ....
15:34 < rxr> and we want not the pkg to depend on that ...
15:53 < mnemoc> we need dependecies 'categorization' too
15:53 < mnemoc> weak and strong depss
15:53 < mnemoc> build time and runtime deps
15:53 < rxr> that are no dependencies at all - just noised ...
15:53 < rxr> because of bad coded gnome crap touching all files ...
15:53 < rxr> touching as in reading ..
15:53 < mnemoc> ok
15:54 < mnemoc> yes
15:54 < rxr> hower in the futuer we want to mark optional ones - I think manually via the [E] tag ...
15:54 < mnemoc> most deps detectd on reference build are optionals
15:55 < mnemoc> s/most/many/
15:56 < rxr> off hand I can not think about an way to determine that automatically ..
15:56 < mnemoc> i was thinking in some kind of 'reporting system
15:57 < mnemoc> where people can sed .cache files
15:57 < mnemoc> send*
15:58 < rxr> well - instead of just sending in .cache files we could accept patches to [E] tags, no ?
15:58 < mnemoc> that way you can't know the really minimal deps
15:59 < mnemoc> to do emerge -deps for example
15:59 < rxr> well - we could output them in a form ...
15:59 < rxr> the package built with this dependencies not available:
15:59 < rxr> gnome-libs14
15:59 < rxr> gtk+12
15:59 < rxr> ...
15:59 < rxr> please report that immediatly to t2@exactcode.de
15:59 < mnemoc> sure
15:59 < rxr> we could also curl them into a cgi script ...
15:59 < mnemoc> and some person will have a .cache without that noise
16:00 < mnemoc> merging is easy
16:00 < rxr> I would pass the diff information not the wohle .cache ...
16:00 < rxr> however that is only a implementation detail
16:01 < mnemoc> can you mail it? i'm terribly laged here
16:01 < rxr> mail what ?
16:01 < mnemoc> "please report that immediatly to t2@exactcode.de" <--- i miss understood this
16:02 < rxr> hehe
16:07 < mnemoc> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/T2/regressions.html
16:16 < rxr> errors decreasing ?
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16:22 < mnemoc> yes
16:22 < mnemoc> hi jeru
16:22 < jeru> hola amigos :)
16:22 < jeru> hi mnemoc :)
16:23 < jeru> finaly I'm back in B-City
16:23 < mnemoc> hola jeru, ¿cómo estas?
16:24 < jeru> mnemoc: bueno :)
16:24 < jeru> mnemoc: any news from ldapdns ?
16:25 < mnemoc> it's working :)
16:25 < mnemoc> i'm stoped with nss_ldap now :\
16:25 < mnemoc> it doesn't authenticate on ldap
16:25 < jeru> mnemoc: with "empty" base ?
16:26 < jeru> or sth like that?
16:26 < mnemoc> nope, well defined base
16:26 < mnemoc> i need to get samba working only for local 'base'
16:27 < jeru> mnemoc: so samba/ldap doesn't work yet ?
16:28 < mnemoc> samba on ldap yes
16:28 < mnemoc> but samba needs local accounts
16:28 < mnemoc> so i need to get nss_ldap and pam_ldap working
16:28 < mnemoc> they connect to server but after trying to bind as 'manager' they get a "ldap_read: want=8 error=Resource temporarily unavailable"
16:29 < jeru> arrrgh ... I've a book about that, which is quite new ... so I could take a look for their config ;)
16:29 < mnemoc> :D
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16:29 < mnemoc> my throat and back don't let me think :\
16:30 < jeru> uhmm ? what happened?
16:30 < mnemoc> just sick
16:32 < jeru> hmmm ... hope you'll be fully "functional" soon
16:33 < mnemoc> i need to deliver this machine tomorrow morning :\
16:33 < jeru> mnenoc: I'll help you .... can you send me your test config files ?
16:34 < jeru> mnemoc: do you need krb5 support with samba ?
16:35 < mnemoc> i haven't entered on that field yet
16:35 < mnemoc> but i have to
16:36 < mnemoc> *laaaaag*
16:56 < keinek> hi everybody
16:58 < keinek> my target is ready :)
16:58 < keinek> but 6 package dont work
16:58 < keinek> but i dont need gimp
16:58 < keinek> :)
16:58 < jeru> hola keinek
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16:59 < keinek> hola jeru
17:17 < keinek> that I can do if when I believe the iso I realize that it creates to me 2 isos, when I loved a distro of 1 iso: can I extract bundles with facility to do one of 1 alone disc?
17:19 < mnemoc> iso contains just what to added to the build, reduce the build package selection adn you will reduce the iso size
17:23 < rxr> and yes, we plan to provide a facitly to control the order of the packages on the iso
17:23 < rxr> so cd1 can be base - and cdX the extra stuff
17:31 < keinek> ok
17:31 < keinek> but if i change the template.
17:31 < keinek> if I change it will not it start compiling everything of zero?
17:32 < rxr> nope
17:32 < mnemoc> just run Config -oldconfig
17:33 < keinek> well do I execute " Config -cfg the same config ", before that I modify my template, I go out and then do I set to create the iso? or must I execute anything more?
17:34 < mnemoc> after you change your template, run Config -oldconfig
17:34 < keinek>
17:34 < keinek> the parsing is taking a lot of time: is always it the same thing when it occupies more than 1 cd?
17:34 < keinek> ok
17:34 < keinek> ok thanks mnemoc
17:42 < keinek> if said parsing for single disc that mean that is one cd right?
17:42 < keinek> but split disc Mmmmm
17:43 < keinek> ok just i wait and for see that it happens.
17:47 < keinek> how much time delay the parsing of the iso?
17:53 < CIA-9> amery * r7837 /trunk/package/ (15 files in 15 dirs): * updated some cache files
17:54 < mnemoc> not much
18:04 < CIA-9> amery * r7839 /trunk/package/e17/efsd/efsd.cache: * added cache file of efsd
18:06 < rxr> mnemoc: if you apply the patches from the list (I
18:06 < rxr> 'm busy) please translate the perl-gettext url to perl-gettext-$ver so other
18:06 < rxr> users are not confused when they see gettext-$ver on our mirrors ...
18:07 < mnemoc> ok
18:08 < keinek> 30 minutes?
18:09 < mnemoc> 2?
18:09 < mnemoc> even 1
18:14 < valentin> re
18:17 < keinek> ok i have a proble
18:18 < keinek> why remain too much?
18:18 < mnemoc> ps aux ?
18:19 < keinek> i running again
18:19 < keinek> when happen again
18:19 < keinek> i do ps aux
18:20 < mnemoc> keinek: you can add -x to #! line of the scripts
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18:29 < keinek> i bak
18:29 < keinek> back
18:29 < keinek> i reboot the machine and everthing work fine
18:29 < mnemoc> [12:21:34] keinek: you can add -x to #! line of the scripts
18:29 < keinek> the iso ar 550 m
18:30 < keinek> i think that the problem was with samba
18:31 < keinek> some shared resource remained frozen
19:03 * mnemoc adding mono to stage 3 and gettext to stage 5 :'(
19:35 < keinek> keinek minimal desktop iso is ready
19:35 < keinek> INITIALIZING SEQUENCE START
19:35 < keinek> 9 8 7 6 :P
19:43 < keinek> ok... see you! i will install t2 again :D
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19:53 < Minto_> Yuck, I am getting sick of eating chocolat easter eggs.
19:54 < mnemoc> re
19:55 < madtux> ra
19:55 < Minto_> Can't control myself, just had another one.
19:56 < mnemoc> hi Minto_, mightytux
19:56 < Minto_> hi mnemoc
19:56 < Minto_> Can you give me a hand in modifying imlib2/e17-config.in?
19:57 < mnemoc> sure
19:57 < Minto_> I am trying to update all e17 stuff to cvs checkout of yesterday.
19:58 < mnemoc> but?
19:59 < Minto_> This package/e17/imlib2/e17-config.in file mentioned something like NOCONFIGURE. This env var is no longer used. No I try to sed the ./configure out of autogen.sh with the following line.
19:59 < Minto_> hook_add preconf 5 "if [ -e autogen.sh ] ; then sed -i "s/$USER/stupid/" autogen.sh ; sed -i "s/\.\/configure/#\.\/configure/" autogen.sh ; sh autogen.sh ; fi"
19:59 < Minto_> but is does not work properly. even \\ in stead of \ results in all . being replaced by configure.
20:00 < Minto_> How best to trim the ./configure out of autogen.sh
20:01 < mnemoc> that's ugly
20:01 < Minto_> These easter eggs must have clouded my mind.
20:01 < mnemoc> sed -i '/configure/d;' autogen.sh does the job
20:01 < Minto_> I know but what was there is much pretties.
20:01 < Minto_> Does that command delete the whole line?
20:02 < mnemoc> but i guess you wont to do that _alone_ on postpatch
20:02 < mnemoc> yes, that deletes de whole line :)
20:02 < Minto_> Why?
20:02 < mnemoc> what do you want, sorry?
20:02 < mnemoc> i don't feel well
20:02 < Minto_> Have you had to much easter eggs as well?
20:03 < mnemoc> none :)
20:03 < _Ragnar_> moin
20:03 < mnemoc> hi _Ragnar_
20:04 < Minto_> What I want is a preconf step where the autogen.sh is exectued, but no configure. The autogen.sh script being executed has a ./configure on the last line.
20:04 < mnemoc> Minto_: sed -i 's,./configure,#./configure,g' autogen.sh
20:04 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
20:04 < Minto_> I thought so, however . seems to be considered a wildcard.
20:05 < mnemoc> s,\./configure,#./configure,g
20:05 < mnemoc> wildcard only on the first part
20:05 < mnemoc> but instead of commenting you should replace it by true
20:05 < Minto_> I tried that too but somehow the \ gets lost. even trying \\ does not work. Sound stupid but lets try 3.
20:06 < mnemoc> because if true; then #foo; fi will fail
20:06 < mnemoc> using single quotes?
20:07 < mnemoc> another cleaner way is to call a funcion on preconf instead of running code
20:07 < mnemoc> on the function you wont have escaping problems
20:07 < Minto_> I have my fingers crossed.
20:08 < mnemoc> hook_add preconf 5 "[ -e autogen.sh ] && e17_hacked_autogen"
20:08 < Minto_> Sure, stupid me I used " in a " string..
20:08 < mnemoc> :D
20:08 < Minto_> Agreed. I will change it into a function.
20:09 < mnemoc> and replace it by 'true' to avoid empty if/fi
20:10 < Minto_> How do I do that.
20:10 < mnemoc> s,\./configure,true,g
20:11 < Minto_> Okay
20:13 * mnemoc hopes sick mnemoc is not misleading Minto
20:13 < Minto_> In a minute I will find out.
20:16 < Minto_> Well, at least I get different error this time.
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20:17 < keinek> ok that works :)
20:17 < keinek> but i have some problem.
20:17 < keinek> is i want add some package that i forge. can i add in the template?
20:18 < keinek> and after run build-target?
20:21 < Minto_> mnemoc: It still doesn't work. autogen didn't get changed at all.
20:22 < Minto_> I look at it again tomorrow with a clear head.
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20:42 < CIA-9> amery * r7840 /trunk/package/network/tor/ (. tor.cache tor.desc):
20:42 < CIA-9> sepp :
20:42 < CIA-9> * added tor (0.0.9.6)
20:44 < CIA-9> amery * r7841 /trunk/package/network/privoxy/ (. makefile.patch privoxy.cache privoxy.conf privoxy.desc):
20:44 < CIA-9> sepp :
20:44 < CIA-9> * added privoxy (3.0.3)
20:47 < CIA-9> amery * r7844 /trunk/package/develop/alternatives/ (. Makefile.patch alternatives.cache alternatives.desc):
20:47 < CIA-9> Minto van der Sluis :
20:47 < CIA-9> * added alternatives (0.2.0rc3)
20:49 < mnemoc> bbl
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21:15 < keinek> ok... i learn that if i add one package in my template, and this package dont exits in the target, that package never compile.
21:15 < keinek> so...
21:15 < keinek> i will add this package in the target :)
21:15 < keinek> and... oh man.... i find that the config of generic destop is easy for work.
21:16 < keinek> :)
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23:28 < rxr> re
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23:35 < keinek> hi
23:36 < keinek> my t2 is working perfect
23:36 < keinek> ;)
23:39 < rxr> nice ,-)
23:39 < rxr> my OSX is working far from perfect
23:39 < rxr> never worked with a that broken USB stack ...
23:39 < sepp> lol thats why you pay for it
23:42 < sepp> why you have to
23:53 < keinek> xmame work fine ;)
23:53 < keinek> ms pacman is great!
23:58 < mnemoc> rehi
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