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01:57 < keinek> hi everybody
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02:12 < ideal> morning
02:12 < keinek> morning
02:12 < keinek> but...
02:13 < keinek> in argentina is 
02:13 < keinek> 22:13 pm :P
02:13 < keinek> hey guys Help script is a good way for learn
02:13 < keinek> i am very happy.
02:14 < keinek> i will read everything
02:45 < mnemoc> hi
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03:40 < CIA-9> amery * r7675 /trunk/package/xfce4/xffm/xffm.desc: * updated xffm (4.2.1 -> 4.3.1.0)
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05:14 < Postal> hey all
05:15 < Postal> anyone around?
05:28 < mnemoc> no idea
05:35 < Postal> lol
05:36 < Postal> I cannot get that stage that mipe sent to work at all
05:36 < _Ragnar_> what's wrong with it?
05:36 < _Ragnar_> it worked fine for me
05:37 < CIA-9> amery * r7676 /trunk/misc/archive/AuditBuild.sh: * improved AuditBuild.sh to add #$pkg on web mode
05:37 < Postal> I cannot get it to build a kernel once im chrooted in
05:37 < mnemoc> 5-linux26?
05:38 < Postal> well it does not come with the t2-source.. so i svn up... that does not work well, cuase of course the config file to use is not thre and you cannot create one.. or at least it would not let me do so...
05:38 < Postal> well it does not come with the t2-source.. so i svn up... that does not work well, cuase of course the config file to use is not thre and you cannot create one.. or at least it would not let me do so...
05:38 < Postal> that was odd
05:39 < Postal> _Ragnar_,  exactly what did you do after you unziped the stage?
05:40 < _Ragnar_> I dled a plain 2.6.11 kernel
05:40 < _Ragnar_> put it into /usr/src
05:40 < _Ragnar_> and compiled it
05:40 < Postal> by hand
05:40 < Postal> not using t2
05:40 < _Ragnar_> yes
05:40 < _Ragnar_> yes
05:41 < Postal> were you able to use any of the ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg or Build-Pkg?
05:41 < _Ragnar_> you can't use the system unless you run a 64bit kernel
05:41 < Postal> i do run a 64bit kernel
05:41 < _Ragnar_> ah okay
05:42 < Postal> FC4
05:42 < Postal> but i was not able to get any of the above to work once i chrooted in
05:42 < _Ragnar_> what specificially fails?
05:42 < Postal> its not there
05:43 < _Ragnar_> huh?
05:43 < Postal> the t2 source does not come with the stage
05:43 < _Ragnar_> of course not
05:43 < _Ragnar_> O_O
05:43 < _Ragnar_> why should it?
05:44 < Postal> right... so where are the pkg management tools such as Emerge-Pkg and Build-Pkg located?
05:44 < _Ragnar_> you should do a svn co
05:44 < Postal> i did
05:44 < _Ragnar_> CO, not up
05:44 < _Ragnar_> up will of course fail
05:44 < Postal> I did
05:44 < _Ragnar_> ok
05:44 < _Ragnar_> and that works?
05:45 < Postal> The error comes when i try to dl a file.. it says i need a config.. of course i suppose.. bu then i does not let me create a config
05:45 < Postal> it errs out
05:45 < _Ragnar_> when you do './scripts/Config'?
05:45 < Postal> yeah hold on i just unziped the stage again... let me svn co
05:46 < CIA-9> amery * r7677 /trunk/misc/archive/RegressionsReport.sh: * improved RegressionsReport.sh output, now it only needs css :)
05:47 < Postal> ok i am going to pull up the error as soon as I finish this svn co
05:47 < mnemoc> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/T2/regressions.html <--- comments?
05:49 < Postal> what is package/x11/gentoo?
05:50 < mnemoc> http://www.obsession.se/gentoo/
05:50 < mnemoc> it is a bit silly to call your 'distro' as your favorite tool :\
05:53 < Postal> ew config written to config/default/*.
05:53 < Postal> Cleaning up. Configuration finished.
05:53 < Postal> but
05:54 < Postal>  ./scripts/Download: line 759: 16783 Broken pipe       grep -H '^\[D\] ' package/$repo/$pkg/$pkg.desc
05:56 < _Ragnar_> O_O
05:56 < Postal> but config writed a config without even asking me what to do...
05:56 < Postal> wrote...
05:56 < Postal> sry
05:56 < _Ragnar_> that problem I have, too
05:56 < Postal> so you got around it hwo
05:56 < Postal> how
05:56 < _Ragnar_> I did the config on a different system and copied the files over
05:56 < Postal> that worked?
05:56 < _Ragnar_> yes
05:56 < _Ragnar_> only the config/*
05:57 < Postal> i dont have a diff system..
05:57 < Postal> did you get errors like :./scripts/Config: line 158: /dev/null: No such file or directory
05:57 < Postal> ./scripts/Config: line 159: /dev/null: No such file or directory
05:57 < Postal> ./scripts/Config: line 160: /dev/null: No such file or directory
05:57 < Postal> ./scripts/Config: line 161: /dev/null: No such file or directory
05:57 < Postal> ./scripts/Config: line 188: /dev/null: No such file or directory
05:57 < _Ragnar_> you can also edit the config files by hand and do './scripts/Config' to generate the files
05:57 < Postal> scripts/config.func: line 52: /dev/null: No such file or directory
05:57 < _Ragnar_> ooh
05:57 < _Ragnar_> well
05:57 < _Ragnar_> like usual with chrooting
05:58 < _Ragnar_> mount none /dev -t devfs
05:58 < _Ragnar_> mount none /proc -t proc
05:58 < Postal> mount none /dev -t devfs
05:58 < Postal> opps
05:58 < _Ragnar_> cd /dev
05:58 < _Ragnar_> ln -s /proc/self/fd .
05:59 < Postal> i had to create the mountpoints... is that ok?
06:00 < _Ragnar_> yea
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06:00 < Postal> mount none /dev -t devfs
06:00 < Postal> mount: none has wrong device number or fs type devfs not supported
06:00 < _Ragnar_> uhm okay
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06:00 < _Ragnar_> that's a problem
06:00 < _Ragnar_> your kernel doesn't support devfs
06:00 < Postal> ah
06:01 < Postal> i could see how that might be not so good
06:01 < mnemoc> that's a missconfigured udev
06:01  * _Ragnar_ recommends building your own kernel by hand
06:01 < Postal> _Ragnar_, FC4 uses gcc 4.0... that might be a bit sketchy lol
06:01 < mnemoc> no, that's udev
06:01 < _Ragnar_> no, inside the chroot
06:02 < Postal> oh
06:02 < _Ragnar_> huh?
06:02 < Postal> i thought you meant building my fc4 kernel again
06:02 < _Ragnar_> nono
06:02 < Postal> oh.. and this stage is working for you now.. you can use emerge pkg and all that?
06:02 < mnemoc> i have seen that before, on bad permission sets on udev
06:03 < _Ragnar_> I haven't tried emerge, but I can use Build-Target
06:03 < Postal> what if you just want to install one pkg?
06:03 < _Ragnar_> I used Build-Pkg successfully
06:04 < _Ragnar_> and I got most of the basic system tools built now
06:04 < Postal> ic
06:04 < Postal> sounds like lots of trouble.... you are MUCH better at this than me lol
06:05 < _Ragnar_> not really
06:05 < _Ragnar_> just got lots of help *looks at mnemoc and rxr* :)
06:05 < Postal> ok well i am going to build this kernel... then point my fedora grub to it i suppose
06:05 < _Ragnar_> okay
06:05 < _Ragnar_> one more thing: continue to use the fedora grub
06:05 < mnemoc> me? i don't even know how a amd64 looks like
06:06 < _Ragnar_> mnemoc: you helped me two days ago nevertheless;)
06:06 < mnemoc> if you say so :)
06:06 < _Ragnar_> :)
06:06 < Postal> mnemoc, you dont know "what" an amd64 looks like...
06:06 < _Ragnar_> grub doesn't afaik build in rock yet (it needs to be built 32 bit)
06:06 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: ./misc/archive/RegressionsReport.sh -cfg foo 
06:06 < _Ragnar_> so just use the fc4 one
06:07 < mnemoc> Postal: what??
06:07 < Postal> mnemoc, nvm
06:07 < Postal> _Ragnar_, you could always Emerge-Pkg glibc32
06:07 < mnemoc> nvm?
06:07 < Postal> nevermind
06:07 < _Ragnar_> mnemoc: I currently fail with an out of disk space error ;)
06:07 < mnemoc> :)
06:07 < _Ragnar_> Postal: that's built in Build-Target
06:07 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: hehe
06:08  * _Ragnar_ only got a 14gig partition for that one
06:08 < Postal> _Ragnar_, then grub should build using those 32 bit libs
06:08 < _Ragnar_> I need to put in a bigger hd
06:08 < Postal> _Ragnar_, how big is your HD?
06:08 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: lvm :)
06:08 < _Ragnar_> mipe told me that doesn't work yet
06:09 < Postal> my T2 has 110GB
06:09 < _Ragnar_> good for you
06:09 < mnemoc> you can give _Ragnar_ a root shell account there :)
06:10 < _Ragnar_> *hrhr*
06:10 < Postal> sure... if he can help me get this t2 stage to work.. ill host his website also lol
06:10 < Postal> ;-)
06:10 < _Ragnar_> ^_^
06:10 < _Ragnar_> hey we can try cluster-building :D
06:10 < mnemoc> Postal: that problem writing to /dev/null is due to missconfigured fedora's udev
06:10 < Postal> I hope apatche is in the repo
06:10 < Postal> _Ragnar_,  what is cluster building?
06:11 < mnemoc> apatche? no. apache yes
06:11 < _Ragnar_> building with more then one computer
06:11 < Postal> thanx
06:11 < mnemoc> distcc
06:11 < Postal> _Ragnar_, OH OH OH YEA
06:11 < Postal> lol we would build to SO fast lol
06:11 < _Ragnar_> :)
06:12 < _Ragnar_> but I gotta shower first, so I'll be back later
06:12 < Postal> I might give my P4 box a head for an hour or so.. and install linux on it so that i can just plug it into the network, and set it up for distcc.. cu later _Ragnar_ 
06:12 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: yes please, get a shower
06:12 < _Ragnar_> *hrhr*
06:12 < mnemoc> :)
06:12 < Postal> mnemoc, is there any way to downgrade fedoras gcc?
06:12 < mnemoc> Postal: #fedora
06:12 < Postal> ie have two versions installed and specify one...
06:13 < Postal> only cause gcc 4 is a pain and causes wierd build errors... 
06:13 < Postal> and i dont like that channle
06:13 < Postal> channel*
06:13 < mnemoc> :)
06:13 < Postal> there not very nice..
06:13 < Postal> :-(
06:14 < Postal> ill brb nature calls..
06:16 < Postal> ok
06:16 < Postal> if i install more than one version of gcc is it going to freak out?
06:20 < mnemoc> not freak out but you may have 'shares' on default gcc symlinks
06:20 < Postal> do you think it would work well enough to get t2 through stage 0?
06:21 < mnemoc> as i told you, your problem with /dev/null is due to udev permissions
06:21 < Postal> ic... so what.. boot into the stage with a better kernel?
06:21 < Postal> im working on it lol
06:22 < mnemoc> almost every package on T2 build with gcc-3.4 currently
06:22 < mnemoc> i guess not even half of them would build with gcc-4.x
06:23 < Postal> that sucks...
06:23 < Postal> but its still shiney lol
06:23 < mnemoc> i wont use a compiler because it's shiney
06:23 < Postal> well.. i leanred my lesson 
06:24 < Postal> desktops are nice when there shiney though...
06:24 < Postal> ie gnome
06:24 < Postal> but not too shiney..
06:24 < Postal> 2.10 is nice though
06:26 < mnemoc> 2.10 was released as stable, gcc-4.x not.
06:26 < Postal> this is true
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06:31 < Postal> you dont have to be a company to have a .com
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06:32 < mnemoc> yes, but that's quite stupid :)
06:32 < Postal> why?
06:33 < Postal> it costs me the same to register the domain.. why not stick with somehting poeple know?
06:33 < mnemoc> names have a reason
06:33 < mnemoc> *ag*
06:33 < mnemoc> *lag*
06:33 < mnemoc> if you want .com, go a register a .com
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06:35 < Postal> well... i suppose what im asking is what do you think sounds better 1) www.beengoinpostal.com 2)www.beengoinpostal.net, or 3) www.beengoinpostal.org?
06:35 < mnemoc> none :)
06:35 < mnemoc> .net maybe
06:35 < Postal> lol
06:36 < Postal> you know for someone who is very helpful.. your not being helpful ;-)
06:36 < Postal> but thats ok.. 
06:36 < Postal> ive decided anyway
06:36 < mnemoc> i don't like 'beengoinpostal'
06:37 < mnemoc> but your domain is yours, not mine :)
06:37 < Postal> i wanted goinpostal... but it was taked
06:37 < Postal> taken*
06:37 < mnemoc> :D
06:37 < mnemoc> taked hehe
06:37 < Postal> shhh
06:38 < Postal> well, i am open to ideas.. it does cost 15$ to register the DN so...
06:38 < mnemoc> postaltaked.com
06:38 < Postal> it sounds like a porn site lol
06:38 < mnemoc> :p
06:38 < Postal> did you know a .tv is 50$ a year o_0
06:39 < Postal> i have never heard of a .tv
06:40 < Postal> have you?
06:41 < mnemoc> yes
06:44 < Postal> i cannot think of any other DN's
06:48 < mnemoc> go-postal.net :)
06:49 < Postal> did you check it?
06:49 < Postal> its avaliable
06:49 < Postal> ;-)
06:49 < Postal> i like that
06:50 < mnemoc> :)
06:50 < Postal> What is a name server?
06:50 < mnemoc> the server that control your domain
06:50 < Postal> can i just make up a name?
06:50 < mnemoc> yes, but wont be available until you set up a name server
06:51 < Postal> what are the benifits?
06:51 < mnemoc> the benefits of what?
06:51 < Postal> a name server
06:52 < mnemoc> to be able to use the name you buy?
06:52 < Postal> ah
06:52 < Postal> does linux have a good program to do this?
06:53 < mnemoc> good? djbdns or ldapdns
06:53 < mnemoc> popular? bind
06:55 < Postal> so for now i will let them "park" the domain and change it later like it says
06:55 < Postal> when i have this setup
06:55 < mnemoc> :)
06:56 < Postal> Is setting that up easy?
06:56 < mnemoc> some registars give basic name service services
06:56 < mnemoc> included
06:56 < mnemoc> to me, yes. to you... no idea :)
06:57 < Postal> ok
06:57 < Postal> done i now own www.go-postal.net
06:57 < mnemoc> you own go-postal.net, not www.go-postal.net
06:58 < Postal> quite
07:00 < mnemoc> == 03/23/05 02:00:25 =[5]=> Finished building package nvu.
07:03 < Postal> mnemoc, can i make it a www.?
07:04 < mnemoc> yes, with your name server
07:04 < Postal> cool
07:04 < Postal> im exited
07:04 < Postal> :-D
07:05 < Postal> you know what the nice thing about hosing my own website is?
07:05 < Postal> ALL the space i want...
07:05 < mnemoc> :)
07:05 < mnemoc> i'll go to sleep
07:05 < mnemoc> cu
07:06 < Postal> and seeing as how the whole world is not using it... my P4 1.8ghz 512 MB of ram with a dedicated Cable connection will be enough i think
07:06 < Postal> cu
07:06 < _Ragnar_> re
07:06 < Postal> _Ragnar_,  is back yeay
07:06 < Postal> _Ragnar_, i now own go-postal.net
07:07 < _Ragnar_> :)
07:07 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
07:07 < _Ragnar_> be careful that might be a trademark violatio
07:07 < _Ragnar_> +n
07:07 < _Ragnar_> there's a game called Postal
07:09 < Postal> well then they can sue me for posting error logs and pictures of my friends and what not under there name lol
07:10 < _Ragnar_> ppl _have_ been sued because of such sh**
07:10 < Postal> I have a VERY VERY good lawyer...
07:10 < Postal> ;-)
07:10 < Postal> im not worried... the would ask me to take it down first if anything...
07:10 < _Ragnar_> :D
07:10 < Postal> if such a thing happens i will change it
07:11 < Postal> i am configuring my kernel
07:11 < _Ragnar_> okay
07:19 < Postal> make && make_modules_install correct
07:19 < Postal> make modules install*
07:19 < Postal> and off we go
07:22 < Postal> i suspect rxr_ will be on soon its 7:23 over there
07:24 < _Ragnar_> :)
07:24 < Postal> now theres a guy who knows his linux 
07:35 < Postal> _Ragnar_, now after i boot in, how do i go about creating the config, and compiling the system tools?
07:45 < _Ragnar_> well most of the system tools should be already installed
07:46 < _Ragnar_> I'd recommend doing Build-Target for a minimal system, then using that chrooted to test
07:49 < Postal> wont a build system build inside a chrooted enviroment again.. so ill be using mipes stage to build my t2?
07:51 < Postal> ill bbs
07:52 < _Ragnar_> yes
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08:10 < Postal> hey mipe 
08:10 < mipe> hi Postal
08:12 < mipe> hmm what happened to RegressionsReport.sh
08:14 < Postal> bbs going to test this out...
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08:19 < Postal> well that did not go so well
08:19 < _Ragnar_> ?
08:19 < _Ragnar_> what went wrong?
08:20 < Postal> I got wierd stack corruption and acpi type errors...
08:20 < _Ragnar_> oooh
08:20 < Postal> lots of hexi decimal bytes and whatnot...
08:20 < mipe> oh hi _Ragnar_
08:20 < _Ragnar_> hi mipe 
08:20 < Postal> seemed to be refrencing stacks and whatnot... turning acpi off does not work...
08:20 < _Ragnar_> before or after the root fs gets mounted?
08:21 < Postal> before
08:21 < _Ragnar_> O_O
08:21 < _Ragnar_> gcc 4.0?
08:21 < Postal> wouldent be.. i compiled the kernel in the chrooted enviroment
08:22 < _Ragnar_> that's weird
08:22 < Postal> i have had the error many times before... and have never found anyone who could solve it....
08:22 < Postal> ony when i use fedora grub though.,..
08:22 < _Ragnar_> have you tried to run a memtest?
08:22 < Postal> no
08:23 < Postal> im going to install suse and try again... but i need a sleep cycle first.. i have been up for 24 hours... i have been and two helicopters today... and driven 5 hours... and i have to give blood tomorrow...
08:24 < Postal> but i have had good luck with suse and T2 in the past
08:24 < Postal> always works well
08:24 < Postal> so gn all cu 
08:24 < _Ragnar_> awww okay
08:24 < _Ragnar_> :)
08:24 < _Ragnar_> sleep well
08:24 < Postal> I WILL lol
08:25 < Postal> you try going to washington DC for two hours each wasy statying there for two hours then comming back and airport is 2h:30min from your house lol
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08:32 < mipe> so _Ragnar_ you are building x86-64 too?
08:32 < _Ragnar_> yeah
08:32 < _Ragnar_> I had another try two days ago, but I ran into out of disk space
08:33 < _Ragnar_> ;p
08:33 < mipe> 1480 builds total, 1024 completed fine, 111 with errors.
08:35 < _Ragnar_> nice :)
08:35 < _Ragnar_> I probably get some more
08:36 < _Ragnar_> linux24 failed for me
08:36 < mipe> yeah failed on me too
08:36 < _Ragnar_> something with drm
08:59 < CIA-9> mika * r7678 /trunk/package/audio/ladspa-caps/ladspa-caps.conf: * add -fPIC to ladspa-caps to fix ld relocation errors
08:59 < CIA-9> mika * r7679 /trunk/package/base/libpcap/libpcap.conf: * add -fPIC to libpcap fixing ld relocation error
09:00 < CIA-9> mika * r7680 /trunk/package/develop/clip/clip.conf: * add -fPIC to clip fixing ld relocation errors
09:01 < CIA-9> mika * r7681 /trunk/package/develop/clearsilver/clearsilver.conf: * add -fPIC to clearsilver fixing ld relocation error
09:02 < CIA-9> mika * r7683 /trunk/package/security/libprelude/libprelude.conf: * add -fPIC to libprelude fixing ld relocation error
09:03 < CIA-9> mika * r7682 /trunk/package/multimedia/fftw3/fftw3.conf: * add -fPIC to fftw3 fixing ld relocation error
09:03 < _Ragnar_> goodnight folks
09:04 < mipe> gn8 _Ragnar_
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09:24 < jeru> good morning
10:07 < rxr_> moin
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10:08 < rxr> mipe|school: those -fPIC multiply quite fast - do we need some more automated way to fix packages by injecting fPIC ?
10:19 < rxr> http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/pc532/faq.html#what-is-a-pc532
10:19 < rxr> ^- uh
10:36 < rxr> MonoDevelop 0.6
10:49 < jeru> hi rxr
10:49 < rxr> hi jeru 
10:50 < jeru> everything fine ?
10:52 < rxr> oh - sure
10:52 < jeru> :)
10:52 < rxr> except that since a few minutes kno mo
10:52 < rxr> no web radio stuff get's streamed using xmms ...
10:53 < jeru> :|
10:54 < jeru> btw: do you use perl-gtk ? It doesn't build on my machine ...
10:54 < CIA-9> rene * r7684 /trunk/package/www/nvu/startup-script.patch: * fixed nvu startup-script to not use MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME, ...
10:54 < rxr> no - I do not use perl-gtk ...
10:56 < rxr> ah - was jack output driver got stalled ...
10:57 < rxr> restart helped ...
10:58 < mipe|school> rxr:yep they multiply quite fast, is there easy way to detect if it needs one?
10:58 < rxr> no - not really ...
10:58 < rxr> and I would not inject fPIC into everything ..
10:59 < rxr> maybe a new FLAG ?
10:59 < mipe|school> yep that sounds good
10:59 < rxr> just FPIC as [F] and that will inject it ...
11:01 < mipe|school> so hows the gcc 4.0 benchmarking goes?
11:01 < mipe|school> good results so far?
11:02 < rxr> have not run it over night ...
11:02 < mipe|school> rxr: look at this:http://212.66.194.40/regressions/full/diff/cheapskatefonts.diff
11:03 < mipe|school> ups mv -vf should be cp -v but anyway about the mkdir -p,since its not there i create it, but X should create this dir?
11:04 < rxr> mipe|school: *lol* - but please use cp - mv will use the package permissions and they are often set non root and so on ...
11:04 < rxr> mipe|school: yes - remove the line altogether ...
11:04 < rxr> the mkdir one ...
11:04 < mipe|school> but its not created...
11:09 < mipe|school> hmm, have to check why it doesnt use FontDir as given
11:16 < mipe|school> well actually it does but also creating empty dir at lib64/fonts/*
11:17 < mipe|school> http://212.66.194.40/regressions/full/regressions.html
11:17 < mipe|school> looking quite nice
11:17 < CIA-9> chris * r7685 /trunk/package/python/sip/ (. sip.conf sip.desc): * added sip package (4.2.1)
11:18 < rxr>         mkdir -p $root/$libdir/X11/fonts/TrueType
11:19 < mipe|school> yep
11:20 < rxr> fixed
11:21 < CIA-9> rene * r7686 /trunk/package/x11/xorg/xorg-conf.in: 
11:21 < CIA-9> * reverted parts of r7048 - the xorg font path should always be lib/
11:21 < CIA-9>  not lib64/
11:21 < CIA-9> rene * r7687 /trunk/package/fonts/cheapskatefonts/cheapskatefonts.conf: 
11:21 < CIA-9> * fixed cheapskatefonts.conf directory specifications shoudl be /
11:21 < CIA-9>  terminated
11:23 < rxr> mipe|school: is regressions.html the one shipped within T2 ?
11:23 < mipe|school> yep created by misc/archive/Regression*
11:23 < rxr> cool - improved quite a lot ,-)
11:24 < rxr> hm - your inet connection is nicely fast ,_)
11:24 < mipe|school> no its not,only 512kb up
11:25 < mipe|school> i want faster :)
11:25 < rxr> but that is quite a lot upstream for a home connection ... isn't it ?
11:26 < mipe|school> actually lowest that i can get in here, 1mb/512kb. i belive they dont sell 512/256 anymore
11:26 < rxr> ouhm - how nice ...
11:26 < rxr> in germany the normal offers only have 128 or 192 upstream ..
11:26 < rxr> 512 is an exception ...
11:27 < rxr> they throw more downstream to the customers ...
11:27 < rxr> like 15xx or more ... - to sell them videos or whatever ...
11:27 < mipe|school> in here i pay about 20euros fot 1mb/512kb but in Helsinki i could get 8mb/1mb with 80euros
11:28 < mipe|school> which is the speed i like :)
11:28 < rxr> hehe
11:31 < jeru> rxr: I want to commit a package which asks for a "license agreement" during configure. Is there a way to automagically typing a "yes"
11:32 < jeru> or should I "patch" the package
11:34 < rxr> echo "yes" | ./configure ....
11:34 < rxr> I think we do s.th. like that for qt too ...
11:34 < CIA-9> rene * r7688 /trunk/package/fonts/ (6 files in 6 dirs): * unified the font packages to use common cp and directory handling
11:35 < rxr> 	echo "yes" | ( CXX_WRAPPER_BYPASS=1 ; ./configure $confopt )
11:35 < rxr> ^- qt.conf ,-)
11:35 < rxr> jeru: what license is the package?
11:35 < jeru> hmmm ... ahh thank you .... its the GPL version of PyQt
11:35 < jeru> ;)
11:39 < jeru> rxr: hehe "qt license hack" works :)
11:59 < rxr> jeru: do you think I get a 15 pin normal sub-d vga cable somewhere in berlin ?
12:00 < rxr> that is for an old mac with those normal sub-d (not high density) outputs ...
12:03 < jeru> hmmm ... Gravis?!?
12:04 < jeru> I think you know this Mac-Store
12:04 < jeru> but I think they are quite expensive
12:04 < jeru> Conrad 
12:05 < jeru> Conrad (An der Urania) isn't far away from you I think
12:05 < rxr> yep - I know all those
12:06 < rxr> in the past gravis was even the next crossing from here - now they moved to a new building a bit north of ernst reuter platz ...
12:06 < rxr> gravis only sells modern stuff - I fear I do not get such an old style cable ther e...
12:06 < rxr> modern macs have a normal high density vga output jack - if not dvi anyway ...
12:08 < jeru> hmmm ... try to find it there -> http://www.kmshop.de/main_site/
12:09 < jeru> they have some stores in Berlin and you can check for availability (I think)
12:11 < CIA-9> chris * r7689 /trunk/package/python/py-smbpasswd/ (. py-smbpasswd.desc): * added py-smbpasswd package (1.0.1)
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12:24 < rxr> what is that doing ?
12:33 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/57840
12:36 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/57849
12:42 < jeru> rxr: did you asked me ?
12:45 < rxr> yep
12:56 < jeru> what do mean ... py-smbpasswd?
12:56 < jeru> it's a python module for generating NT LANMAN / SMB passwords
12:56 < jeru> will need it for a package ;)
12:57 < rxr> aha ,-)
13:00 < CIA-9> chris * r7690 /trunk/package/python/sip/sip.desc: * just changed build priority
13:01 < CIA-9> chris * r7691 /trunk/package/python/pyqt/ (. pyqt.conf pyqt.desc): * added pyqt package (3.14.1)
13:07 < rxr> == 03/23/05 13:06:30 =[9]=> Finished building package nvu.
13:07 < rxr> ok - now it also starts up ...
13:19 < rxr> so - benchmarks for 4.0 running ..
13:19  * rxr off (to conrad) - back soon
13:19 < jeru> cu 
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13:43 < mnemoc> moin
13:43 < mipe|school> hi mnemoc
13:43 < jeru> moin mnemoc
13:43 < mnemoc> jeru is the 'just' guy :\
13:43 < mnemoc> hi mipe, jeru
13:44 < jeru> mnemoc: ?
13:44 < mnemoc> chris * r7690 /trunk/package/python/sip/sip.desc: * just changed build priority
13:44 < mnemoc> instead of 'changed sip build priority'
13:44 < mipe|school> :)
13:45 < jeru> mnemoc: ok ... ok ...
13:45 < jeru> :)
13:46 < mnemoc> :)
13:48 < mnemoc> mipe|school: have you seen the 'new' output of RegressionsReport.sh ?
13:48 < mnemoc> mipe|school: would be better to do a massive -fPIC for those archs? 
13:49 < mipe|school> http://212.66.194.40/regressions/full/regressions.html
13:49 < mipe|school> yep seen it,good changes btw.
13:50 < mnemoc> 5-linux24??
13:51 < mipe|school> well the -fPIC is quite problematic, do we want to have -fPIC defined on all packages? probably not, rxr thew an  idea to add FPIC or NOFPIC flag,depends how many we need to flag
13:51 < mipe|school> yep it failed on xorg drm stuff
13:51 < mipe|school> *threw*
13:51 < mnemoc> oh, i thought it was harmless
13:52 < mnemoc> FPIC and DESTDIR maybe two good flags
13:52 < mnemoc> NODESTDIR i mean
13:52 < mipe|school> well it is harmless as far as i know.. but rxr knows better if it actually does harm
13:54 < mipe|school> hmm,maybe output disabled packages on RegressionsReport?
13:55 < mnemoc> that's a bit expensive but not hard
13:56 < mnemoc> uhm
13:56 < mnemoc> disabled packages are shown, 'hidden' packages are not :p
13:56 < mnemoc> .oO( i need better words )o
13:56 < mipe|school> ah those are NOQUEUED?
13:56 < mnemoc> yes :)
13:57 < mnemoc> should i change that to DISABLED?
13:57 < mipe|school> yep better word for it
13:57 < mnemoc> ok
14:00 < CIA-9> amery * r7692 /trunk/misc/archive/ (AuditBuild.sh RegressionsReport.sh): * changed AuditBuild.sh and RegressionsReport.sh to use DISABLED instead of NOQUEUED
14:08 < mnemoc> mipe|school: ./scripts/functions: line 72: cd: extras/drm/linux: No such file or directory <--- this is odd
14:09 < mipe|school> yep its odd
14:10 < mnemoc> are you on class?
14:11 < mipe|school> yep user interface, 2h and off to easter break
14:11 < mnemoc> :)
14:12 < mipe|school> well maybe 1h since theres nothing to do for me in here,i have done there practice stuff weeks ago
14:12 < mipe|school> there=these
14:13 < mnemoc> :)
14:14 < mipe|school> WOW, school is looking for intern for the summer on high tech cave laboratory... that's me isnt it
14:14 < mnemoc> yeah
14:15 < CIA-9> chris * r7693 /trunk/package/python/python-ldap/python-ldap.desc: * changed python-ldap build priority
14:15 < mipe|school> mnemoc:what was the url for your regressions?
14:16 < mnemoc> www.geeks.cl/~amery/T2/regressions.html
14:16 < jeru> mnemoc: do you feel better this way ;)
14:16 < mnemoc> jeru: just fine :)
14:16 < jeru> :)
14:17 < mnemoc> 1503 packages :)
14:18 < mipe|school> hmm 6 packages disable more on x86-64 than x86,have to check if they could be compiled on 32bit mode
14:18 < mipe|school> unless you have enabled them on pkgsel
14:19 < mnemoc> yes
14:19 < mnemoc> check my pkgsel there
14:19 < jeru> mnemoc:  next package commit could be a "pearl" (perhaps) for you ;)
14:19 < mnemoc> uhm?
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14:22 < keinek> hi
14:22 < keinek> morning
14:22 < mnemoc> hi keinek 
14:29 < rxr> re
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14:29 < mnemoc> hi rxr
14:30 < rxr> my athlon still number crunching ...
14:30 < mnemoc> uhm?
14:31 < CIA-9> chris * r7694 /trunk/package/network/luma/ (. luma.conf luma.desc): * added luma package (2.1.3)
14:31 < jeru> mnemoc: ^ check this out ;)
14:31 < jeru> mnemoc: nice ldap tool
14:31 < mnemoc> svn up
14:31 < mnemoc> err
14:31 < mnemoc> :\
14:32  * jeru is debugging firewall now ... out for some time 
14:33 < mnemoc> jeru: qt :(
14:35 < rxr> better than gtk+ ...
14:35 < mnemoc> :)
14:36 < mnemoc> rxr: http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/T2/regressions.html <--- comments?
14:37 < rxr> yes - nice output
14:38 < mnemoc> i hope it would be useful too :)
14:39 < mipe|school> perhaps moving the output of Total,Built Fine,Broken Builds,Pengind Builds to before Failed logs,i have scrolling down so much... :)
14:39 < mipe|school> have=hate
14:40 < mnemoc> .oO( how do i do that? )o
14:41 < mipe|school> do i commit?
14:41 < mipe|school> well lemme show the output to you first
14:43 < mnemoc> i changed it here too
14:43 < mnemoc> ask your teacher about my great UI :)
14:49 < mipe|school> :)
14:49 < mipe|school> http://212.66.194.40/regressions/full/regressions.html
14:49 < mipe|school> notice the Total table moved up
14:50 < mipe|school> also notice that table is broken, so not commiting
14:50 < mipe|school> but you got the idea that that Failed Builds table is the last one
14:51 < mnemoc> i have that solved here
14:52 < mipe|school> yep commit?, also maybe take borders off from tables?
14:52 < rxr> mnemoc: might you announce the regression output to the list 
14:52 < rxr> ? even
14:53 < CIA-9> amery * r7695 /trunk/misc/archive/RegressionsReport.sh: * changed RegressionsReport.sh to show (successfully) the build summary before the failure list
14:53 < mnemoc> do you think it is ready for that?
14:53 < mnemoc> mipe|school: http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/T2/regressions.html
14:54 < mipe|school> mnemoc:yep looks great
14:54 < mnemoc> :)
14:54 < mnemoc> i have to go to a class now
14:55 < rxr> I need new coffee
14:55 < mnemoc> i want coffee but my stomach doesnt :(
14:56 < rxr> mnemoc: xaos might be fixed with NOPARALLEL ...
14:56 < mnemoc> i may point package names to the matrix.... rxr, how often is that updated?
14:56 < mnemoc> rxr: ok, rescheduled
14:56 < mnemoc> uhm
14:56 < rxr> oh - it already has NOPARALLEL ..
14:56 < mnemoc> i have it NOPARALLEL
14:56 < rxr> yeah - ic
14:57 < rxr> the error just looked so parrallel alike ..
14:57 < rxr> I try locally ..
14:57 < mnemoc> i have to go
14:57 < mnemoc> cu later
14:57 < rxr> cu
15:02 < rxr> == 03/23/05 15:02:33 =[9]=> Finished building package xaos.
15:02 < rxr> hm
15:02 < rxr> ^- my iBook ...
15:04 < CIA-9> rene * r7696 /trunk/package/scientific/xaos/xaos.desc: * removed NOPARALLEL mark from xaos - built here ...
15:07 < rxr> hm - on x86 I indeed get the same error *g*
15:08 < rxr> nice to see more stuff building on PowerPC than on x86 ,-) *g*
15:10 < mipe|school> rxr: what do we do with the increased count of -fPIC do we define flag for it,or do i just add them through gcc wrapper?
15:17 < rxr> I think flag ...
15:18 < CIA-9> rene * r7697 /trunk/package/scientific/xaos/ (impicit-declarations.gcc34.patch xaos.desc): * updated xaos (3.1.0 -> 3.1.2)
15:19 < rxr> ^-  builds on x86 ...
15:19 < rxr> mipe|school: I implement the flag handling ... 
15:20 < mipe|school> rxr:ok, NOFPIC or FPIC?
15:20 < rxr> let me think ...
15:21 < rxr> FPIC-QUIRK ?
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15:21 < mipe|school> whats the QUIRK for?
15:21 < rxr> work around - brokenness ...
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15:21 < mipe|school> yep
15:22 < rxr> NOFPIC suggest s.th. like use no FPIC or so ..
15:22 < rxr> well - FPIC alone could do ...
15:22 < rxr> but with the other flags in use it could suggest it support FPIC or is ready for it or so ...
15:23 < rxr> I think QUIRK is good to make it abviously as work around ...
15:23 < mipe|school> yep sounds reasonable
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15:26 < CIA-9> rene * r7698 /trunk/package/base/gcc/parse-config: * added global fPIC injection via FPIC-QUIRK flag
15:26 < rxr> mipe|school: have fun testing
15:32 < mipe|school> yep will test soonish,rescheduled a package that needs it,will see results after i'm home
15:33 < mipe|school> so me heading home
15:56 < CIA-9> rene * r7699 /trunk/Documentation/Developers/PKG-FLAGS: * documented FPIC-QUIRK flag ...
15:56 < rxr> ok - the new c
15:56 < rxr> xaos also builds on powerpc ,-)
15:57 < rxr> mnemoc: please do not randomly apply NOPARALLEL on your tree ...
15:57 < rxr> we get too many packages flagged this way ...
15:57 < rxr> find_sts_main.c: In function `find_sts':
15:57 < rxr> find_sts_main.c:96: error: assignment of read-only member `size'
15:57 < rxr> find_sts_main.c:100: error: assignment of read-only location
15:57 < rxr> find_sts_main.c:103: error: assignment of read-only location
15:59 < rxr> normal programming error - nothing PARALLEL related ...
16:05 < rxr> mnemoc: btw. for regression test builds I would use no optimization at all - way higher build speed - even more so with gcc 4.0 for C++ code ...
16:14 < keinek> ok help me..... [P] X -----5---9 222.100
16:14 < keinek> the last number
16:14 < keinek> is the order for compile o something like that
16:15 < keinek> what number must be in one new package?
16:16 < CIA-9> rene * r7700 /trunk/package/text2speech/flite/compile.patch: * fixed flite for gcc >= 3.4
16:16 < rxr> just use s.th. high such as 800.000 and do not care about it ..
16:16 < rxr> if it needs tweaking we will do it - and the static number will vanish as soon as valentin finishes the on-the-fly dependency graph evaluator ...
16:17 < keinek> ok... the number is important ?
16:18 < rxr> no really ...
16:18 < rxr> use a higher one for anything you add ...
16:18 < keinek> something like 900.000
16:18 < rxr> if you add stuff that depends on each other - use an higher one for the stuff depending on the first ...
16:18 < rxr> yes
16:19 < rxr> as I said - the static number is a ugly ROCK relict - and will vanish soon ....
16:26 < rxr> mnemoc: I fix ipw2100 ...
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16:27 < Minto> Hi all
16:28 -!- mipe|school is now known as mipe
16:28 < mipe> hi Minto
16:30 < rxr> hi Minto 
16:30 < CIA-9> rene * r7701 /trunk/package/network/ipw2100/ (ipw2100.conf ipw2100.desc postlinux.conf): 
16:30 < CIA-9> * updated ipw2100 (0.46_3 -> 1.0.5)
16:30 < CIA-9> * implemented basic postlinux.conf (most problably needs updates)
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16:34 < mnemoc> re
16:34 < keinek> ok... if everthing is ok, i make the first add package
16:34 < mnemoc> rxr: what random NOPARALLEL?
16:35 < keinek> now
16:35 < mnemoc> keinek: misc/archive/newpackage.sh
16:35 < keinek> Emeger-Pkg is download xmame from the orginal web
16:35 < keinek> what is newpackage.sh mnemoc ?
16:35 < keinek> i do all by hand
16:35 < mnemoc> create .desc files
16:35 < keinek> and now, you said... Hey Keinek you have newpackage.sh!
16:35 < keinek> MY a!"·$"!·$
16:35 < keinek> sadflkjsdlfkj lkjasdflkj alkdsjflkjasf
16:36  * keinek is pushing the keyword
16:36 < keinek> :D
16:43 < rxr> hi mnemoc flite or so ..
16:47 < CIA-9> rene * r7702 /trunk/package/x11/gentoo/install.patch: * fixed gentoo to actually install
16:54 < keinek> hey guys how uninstall one package?
16:56 < keinek> is anybody in there?
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16:57 < keinek> hello again
16:57 < rxr> keinek: mine -r $pkgname
16:57 < keinek> oh thanks rxr
16:58 < keinek> in a moment i will know if my first package work :)
16:58 < keinek> i create xmame package.
16:58 < keinek> do you like emulators?
16:59 < mipe> omg now i really done it
17:00 < rxr> mipe: ?
17:00 < keinek> what is omg?
17:01 < mipe> i have flagged packages that needs -fPIC with flag FPIC-QUIRKS, and i wondered why in earth doesnt build...
17:01 < mipe> but luckily none of those got commited
17:05 < mipe> omg=oh my gosh or oh my god
17:06 < CIA-9> rene * r7703 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux24.conf: 
17:06 < CIA-9> * yet again fixed the ROCK_DEBUG_LINUX_SUBMODULES_ONLY code path -
17:06 < CIA-9>  this time for only building modules if the $moduledir is not yet
17:06 < CIA-9>  there
17:06 < mipe> this sould fix linux24 build(drm/*,error)?
17:07 < rxr> mipe: oehm - don't think so ..
17:07 < rxr> mipe: what is the problem with 
17:07 < rxr> FPIC-QUIRK ?
17:08 < mipe> well nothings wrong with FPIC-QUIRK i just typoed to few packages and wondered why it doesnt build, but linux24 error is 
17:08 < mipe> Creating /usr/<..> if required ...
17:08 < mipe> ./scripts/functions: line 72: cd: extras/drm/linux: No such file or directory
17:09 < mipe> thats when buildig xorg inside linux24
17:14 < mipe> what the ....
17:14 < mipe> Mar  6 18:13:46 localhost sshd[24857]: Illegal user pix from ::ffff:
17:14 < mipe> with 2490 diffrent user names
17:15 < rxr> oh oh oh
17:16 < mipe> well not 2490 since the log as other lines too which doesnt belong to that
17:17 < mipe> as=has
17:17 < mipe> Mar 18 14:35:56 localhost sshd[3594]: reverse mapping checking getaddrinfo for 3
17:17 < mipe> 8-25-63-200-ptr.ipbusiness.net.ar failed - POSSIBLE BREAKIN ATTEMPT!
17:17 < mipe> *lol*
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17:24 < mipe> hmm,the ecore error is wierd
17:32  * jeru is running away now ... cu later ...
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17:33 < rxr> cu jsaw 
17:34 < rxr> cu jeru even ,-)
17:48 < keinek> anybody knows where is the web page of wish
17:49 < keinek>  wish - Simple windowing shell
17:49 < keinek> that programs is use for amsn, a clon of messenger.
17:50 < keinek> Wish is a simple program consisting of the Tcl command language, the Tk toolkit, and a main program that reads commands from standard input or from a file. It creates a main window and then processes Tcl commands. If wish is invoked with no arguments, or with a first argument that starts with ``-'', then it reads Tcl commands interactively from standard input. It will continue processing commands until all windows have been deleted or until end-of-file is reach
17:50 < keinek> ed on standard input. If there exists a file .wishrc in the home directory of the user, wish evaluates the file as a Tcl script just before reading the first command from standard input.
17:50 < rxr> you miss a package
17:50 < rxr> just build tk ...
17:50 < rxr> ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg tk 
17:51 < keinek> oook 
17:51 < keinek> wish is include with tk?
17:51 < CIA-9> rene * r7704 /trunk/package/filesystem/fuse/fuse.desc: * updated fuse (2.2 -> 2.2.1)
17:57 < keinek> rxr if one package like amsn dont need compile because is a script program, how create a package for t2?
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18:00 < Postal> Hey all
18:00 < rxr> keinek: depends how it is written - normally those have an install mechanism ...
18:01 < keinek> if not?
18:01 < keinek> amsn dont have any install
18:01 < mipe> has anyone got mtools build with the latest kernel-headers?
18:02 < rxr> I think so ...
18:05 < keinek> meaby the font packages can help me to learn how copy any file to the system without compile right?
18:05 < keinek> the fonts dont need be compile.
18:06 < rxr> keinek: do so:
18:06 < rxr> makeopt=""
18:06 < rxr> makeinstopt=""
18:06 < keinek> into cache?
18:06 < rxr> hook_add postmake 5 "cp the files you want $bindir/"
18:06 < keinek> no
18:06 < rxr> or so ...
18:06 < keinek> into conf
18:06 < rxr> .conf - yep
18:06 < keinek> ok thanks
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18:14 < Postal> rxr, you know when you build a package, when its done it lits date time stage and the package it finishes building
18:15 < Postal> I think when it says "Finihsed building package **"
18:15 < Postal> it should also say "in ** min"
18:15 < rxr> hehe
18:15 < Postal> I just think it would be nice if it let you know... would this be hard to do?
18:16 < rxr> I tried to hack this in some weeks ago - but the stuff is written from a sub process that does not have that information available ...
18:16 < Postal> what the time command?
18:17 < Postal> Hey what is the release date of 2.10?
18:18 < rxr> tw 2.1 or gnome 2.10 ?
18:18 < Postal> t2
18:18 < Postal> 2.1.0 i mean
18:19 < rxr> soon ... ,-)
18:19 < Postal> soon is a good date ;-)
18:19 < Postal> Im going to be setting up a webserver soon
18:20 < Postal> its going to be a P4 2.8Ghz 1Gb ram 240GB HD with a dedicated Cable line
18:21 < Postal> I just have to talk to my Cable provider about upload..
18:23 < Postal> rxr, in what stages should glibc32 be being built...?
18:24 < rxr> in the same as glibc ...
18:25 < Postal> 0
18:26 < rxr> hm - 0 should indeed not be needed ...
18:26 < Postal> then in 1
18:26 < rxr> yep
18:26 < rxr> [P] X -1---5---9 101.600
18:26 < Postal> the only reason i asked is cause it did not build in zero
18:26 < Postal> ok
18:27 < Postal> mipe, have you gotten grub to build?
18:27 < mipe> Postal:yep it builds
18:27 < mipe> as 32bit
18:27 < Postal> mipe, using the glibc32 stuff
18:27 < mipe> yep
18:27 < Postal> cool
18:28 < Postal> mipe, did you have any problems building the minimal template at all?
18:28 < mipe> hmm,minimal should work... errors i have got so far:http://212.66.194.40/regressions/full/regressions.html
18:29 < Postal> the linux24 failed in 5?
18:30 < mipe> yep,in xorg build
18:30 < Postal> hmmm
18:30 < Postal> wierd
18:31 < Postal> did mnemoc say that he was able to build nvu yesterday?
18:34 < rxr> Postal: I added it, yes
18:34 < rxr> builds here ...
18:35 < Postal> the only reason i ask is because 1) i need it and 2) there is an error about it in mipes regressions log
18:36 < rxr> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `xft.pc'
18:36 < rxr> ^- trivial - however no idea why the dep is not found ...
18:36 < Postal> ...?
18:36 < rxr> maybe lib64 thing ...
18:37 < rxr> should be trivial to fix for someone with access to amd64
18:37 < Postal> ok
18:37 < Postal> what is xft?
18:38 < rxr> X font stuff ...
18:38 < rxr> for nice vector fonts and so ... incuding in xorg ...
18:43 < mipe> there are about 20 packages that has error similar to this.
18:43 < mipe> and another 20 packages that doesnt find lib for somereason,similar problem mnemoc encountered
18:44 < mipe> damm i guess i have to postbone patching to tomorrow
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18:46 < mipe> and there are few packages that fail because of patches doesnt apply
18:46 < rxr> mipe: maybe PKGCONFIG dir or so ?
18:46 < mipe> yep
18:47 < mipe> but has to wait till tomorrow :(
18:47 < rxr> mipe: just take a look how the pkg does detect it - and look what lib64 or so tweak is needed ...
18:47 < rxr> okok ,-)
18:52 < Postal> strip -x -R .comment -R .note bin-x86_64/dyn_start.o
18:52 < Postal> !> make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
18:52 < Postal> !> strip -x -R .comment -R .note bin-x86_64/dyn_stop.o
18:52 < Postal> !> make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
18:52 < Postal> !> make: *** wait: No child processes.  Stop.
18:52 < Postal> !> Due to previous errors, no 1-dietlibc.log file!
18:52 < Postal> !> (Try enabling xtrace in the config to track an error ins ..
18:52 < Postal> -> $root/var/adm/logs/1-dietlibc.out -> 1-dietlibc.err
18:52 < Postal> [F] NOPARALLEL?
18:52 < Postal> but i have to go and give blood... back in a few hours
18:53 < keinek> hi guys anybody knows why all install.run of games for linux dont work?
18:54 < keinek> all games fail
18:54 < keinek> unreal
18:54 < keinek> quake
18:56 < rxr> keinek: worked in the past for me ...
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18:57 < jeru> re hi
18:59 < rxr> wee
18:59 < rxr> linux26: lib/modules/2.6.11.5-dist/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ipw2100.ko
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18:59 < mnemoc> rehi
19:00 < jeru> hi mnemoc ... it's just me ;)
19:00 < mipe> :)
19:00 < mnemoc> hi just jeru
19:00 < jeru> :)
19:01 < jeru> mnemoc: do you use gtk-perl10 as our gtk poweruser ?
19:02 < mnemoc> i don't use anything gtk+1
19:02 < mnemoc> gtk+1*
19:02 < jeru> ok ... 
19:03 < CIA-9> rene * r7705 /trunk/package/ (17 files in 17 dirs): 
19:03 < CIA-9> * added CC=kcc to the postlinux.conf files (to fix a regression since
19:03 < CIA-9>  2.6.11-*, needs that for BUG_ON in certain cases for assembly code,
19:03 < CIA-9>  AFAICS - at least it fixes the compile error)
19:03 < CIA-9> * fixed ipw2100 to actually build
19:03 < mnemoc> hi rxr :) welcome back!!
19:03 < _Ragnar_> moin
19:03 < mnemoc> hi _Ragnar_ 
19:04 < mipe> hmm,looks like FPIC-QUIRK doesnt work as expected
19:04 < jeru> hi Ragnar
19:04 < rxr> mnemoc: I fixed some builds errors for you - and added ipw2100 postlinux support ...
19:05 < mnemoc> rxr: thanks :)
19:05 < mnemoc> ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg ref -newdelete :)
19:06 < mnemoc> does gatos work on a generic-i686?
19:06 < mnemoc> to add it to my ref build
19:11 < rxr> I wanted to do s.th. on T2 - but forgot what - damn ...
19:11 < mnemoc> /sbin/init.d
19:11 < rxr> no - I know that - however there was s.th. else ...
19:12 < mnemoc> fix clisp?
19:13 < rxr> lol - no
19:13 < rxr> nothing get's me to fixing lisp packages ... ,-)
19:13 < mnemoc> :p
19:14 < mipe> so me off,till tomorrow
19:14 < mnemoc> cu mipe
19:14 < mipe> cu *
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19:18 < rxr> ok - my athlon continous benchmarking and /me off getting new coffee and the usual food stuff ...
19:19 < mnemoc> cu rxr
19:19 < jeru> rxr: cu
19:20 < CIA-9> amery * r7706 /trunk/package/develop/cvs/cvs.desc: * updated cvs (1.11.16 -> 1.11.19)
19:20 < rxr> oh - and feel free to post the most concerning build errors (except lisp stuff) into a query or so ... - so I do not have to dig thru the html site ,-)
19:20 < CIA-9> amery * r7707 /trunk/package/perl/perl-dbi/perl-dbi.desc: * updated perl-dbi (1.42 -> 1.48)
19:20 < rxr> mnemoc: http://svn.exactcode.de/big.png is cool
19:21 < mnemoc> :D
19:22 < rxr> ah - I remember reviewing FPIC handling ...
19:23 < jeru> hehe :D
19:23 < jeru> I like this graph :)
19:23 < mnemoc> and acording to my regression report we have 1504 packages :)
19:23 < CIA-9> rene * r7708 /trunk/package/base/gcc/parse-config: * fixed typo in the FPIC-QUIRK conditional should have been != not =
19:24 < mnemoc> arg
19:24  * mnemoc reschuduling gcc again
19:25 < rxr> ouhm ... :-(((
19:26 < rxr> mnemoc: in HEAD are 4999 ...
19:26 < rxr> if you could commit one I could announce 1500 to the list ...
19:26 < rxr> 1499 of course - we are not yet in 2006 ...
19:26 < mnemoc> :)
19:26 < mnemoc> really? only 1499? uhm
19:27 < mnemoc> ok ktoon
19:27 < Minto> Is my apr and apr-util already in there?
19:27 < mnemoc> it 'just' lack of 'make install'
19:27 < jeru> mnemoc: you haven't commited some ... apache_tools
19:27 < mnemoc> doesn't have make isntall neither yet :)
19:28 < jeru> :)
19:28 < rxr> Minto: thanks for the reminder - I review and add those when I'm back from food shopping
19:28 < CIA-9> amery * r7709 /trunk/package/kde/ktoon/ (. ktoon.conf ktoon.desc): * added ktoon (0.7.3)
19:29 < mnemoc> rxr:  ktoon is just one bin/ for qt, where should i install it?
19:29 < jeru> :D
19:30 < mnemoc> /opt/kde ?
19:30 < rxr> oehm ...
19:30 < jeru> what's ktoon ?
19:31 < rxr> jeru: svn up
19:31 < rxr> jeru: a cartoon animation tool ...
19:31 < mnemoc> a 2D animation toolkit
19:31 < rxr> mnemoc: yes - insatll it into kde prefix ...
19:31 < mnemoc> ok
19:31 < jeru> ahhhh ... cool 
19:31 < rxr> mnemoc: don't forget to copyright patch your commits ...
19:32 < mnemoc> oops
19:32 < jeru> haha :)
19:40 < rxr> so - but now I'm off - getting coffee and such ..
19:40 < jeru> bye bye 
19:40 < rxr> btw. mnemoc commit ktoon install fix soon - I announced it to the mailing list ,-)
19:41 < mnemoc> yes, mom
19:42 < mnemoc> rxr: can you try: hook_add postmake 5 'cp -v bin/* $bindir' ?
19:42 < mnemoc> rxr: i can take 2-3 hours before reaching there
19:45 < rxr> mnemoc: I'm confident that will work ..
19:45 < rxr> just commit it ...
19:48 < mnemoc> k
19:51 < CIA-9> amery * r7710 /trunk/package/kde/ktoon/ (ktoon.conf ktoon.desc): * fixed (?) ktoon to install
20:28 < CIA-9> chris * r7711 /trunk/package/develop/clearsilver/clearsilver.conf: 
20:28 < CIA-9> * enabled html compression support to clearsilver
20:28 < CIA-9> * linking against zlib seems to work now :)
20:33 < Minto> Is there anyone that knows something about the blackdown java runtime package?
20:33 < jeru> Minto: what's the problem ?
20:33 < Minto> I am afraid it doesn't get properly installed
20:34 < Minto> the .conf file is a lot shorter that the actual downloaded .bin
20:34 < jeru> Haven't tried it yet ... but why are afraid ?
20:34 < jeru> but that's just the conf !
20:34 < Minto> the start script in the .bin is bypassed by the .conf
20:35 < Minto> This way a lot of things are not done. Like setting the preference API stuff.
20:36 < jeru> try to install it if you can ... and/or try to improve the conf ;)
20:38 < Minto> That's exactly the point. I use blackdown for inspiration to create sun jre package.
20:38 < jeru> aha 
20:38 < Minto> But I will give it a try.
20:38 < jeru> :)
20:42 < keinek> every body is ok?
20:43 < jeru> hi keinek :)
20:43 < keinek> hi jeru
20:44 < jeru> I'm fine ... hope you too! :)
20:44 < keinek> i'am fine
20:44 < jeru> :)
20:44 < keinek> i wait that xmame finish compile.
20:44 < keinek> :)
20:45 < jeru> hehe
20:45 < jeru> I'm actually improving my firewall image  
20:56 < rxr> so - noddles prepared ,-)
21:01 < jeru> bon appetite
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21:03 < Postal> hey all
21:04 < jeru> hi postal
21:06 < Postal> do we know if dietlibc has any known problem with parallel make?
21:07 < Postal> its odd... it failed last time.. but now that i have retryed it with same setting it builds fine,,
21:08 < rxr> Postal: isn't dietlibc already marked NOPARALLEL ?
21:10 < rxr> hm - no it is not ..
21:10 < rxr> damn 
21:10 < rxr> Postal: I saw this on a box 
21:10 < rxr> a Pentium4 box of mnemoc  ...
21:11 < Postal> rxr, but it built fine with -j6 this time..
21:11 < Postal> so no problem
21:12 < rxr> yeah - the parallel make stuff problem is that if the makefile has a bug - it is not exposed determinatly - but randomly depending on the system load and the fine timeing details of actual task switching ...
21:13 < Postal> -j6 is a pretty high number though.. sometimes i use 8 but i wanted to be conservetive thsi time...
21:13 < rxr> hehe
21:13 < Postal> i usually use 8
21:14 < Postal> i am just building a minimal template... i suppose it will be done in a few hours prolly
21:14 < Postal> Does the minimal template include rockplug?
21:22 < keinek> no
21:22 < keinek> i have same problem.
21:23 < keinek> rxr: my package "prozilla" and "xmame" was create sussesfull!
21:23 < keinek> :D
21:23 < keinek> yiiipy!
21:23 < Postal> keinek, rockplug is not in the template?
21:23 < keinek> in the minimal no
21:24 < Postal> i shall have to install it after the fact then
21:24 < keinek> but i dont know if in the last days was add
21:24 < Postal> keinek, i feel like it should be in it
21:24 < keinek> i feel too
21:24 < Postal> it is a fairly important package...
21:24 < keinek> buts...
21:24 < Postal> but...
21:24 < keinek> ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg rockplug
21:24 < Postal> what\=
21:25 < Postal> will get you rockplug
21:25 < keinek> remain only 10 sec.
21:25 < Postal> rxr, why is rockplug not in the minimal template?
21:25 < keinek> yes rxr. why!?
21:26 < keinek> everybody wants rockplug in the minimal template.
21:26 < keinek> and... beer... XXX... games...
21:26 < keinek> you know...
21:26 < keinek> womans...
21:26 < rxr> I added it to the minimal desktop ...
21:26 < keinek> why dont have a developer woman!?
21:26 < rxr> would need to lookup if it is in the minimal ...
21:27 < rxr> keinek: we have ...
21:27 < keinek> yes?
21:27 < keinek> who?
21:27 < rxr> susan
21:27 < rxr> maintaining gnome and more ...
21:27 < keinek> and where is susan?
21:27 < rxr> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/rene/photos/cebit-2005/thumbs/med-IMG_3115.JPG
21:27 < keinek> hahah thanks
21:28 < keinek> Mmmm susan have boyfriend?
21:28 < jeru> :D
21:29 < keinek> hey guy i like maintaining xmame and prozilla.
21:29 < keinek> under the supervision of mnemoc.
21:29 < rxr> keinek: yes, me ,-)
21:30 < keinek> i was make a list of programs that dont include still t2
21:30 < keinek> congratulation rxr
21:30 < keinek> i think that every maintaining woman are fat
21:30 < keinek> but you girfriend is pretty!
21:30 < rxr> *lol*
21:31 < jeru> :D
21:31 < rxr> keinek: thanks - I'll tell her ,-)
21:31 < keinek> ok
21:37 < rxr> why the hell is this in nxcomp ?!?!?
21:37 < rxr> var_append GCC_WRAPPER_REMOVE " " "-Wmissing-declarations -Wnested-externs \
21:37 < rxr> -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes"
21:38 < rxr> maybe var_append GCC_WRAPPER_REMOVE " " "-Werror" should be more likely there ?
21:47 < keinek> hey rxr
21:47 < keinek> is that you?
21:47 < keinek> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/rene/photos/cebit-2005/PICT0031.JPG
21:47 < keinek> or a very very very friend of susan?
21:47 < rxr> yep
21:47 < rxr> me
21:48 < keinek> you look like a funny guy
21:48 < Minto> Anyone know how to use expect?
21:48 < keinek> or like torbalds
21:48 < keinek> now i show you a picture of me
21:48 < keinek> a moment please
21:53 < rxr> keinek: a few weeks ago I looked differently - with long hair
21:53 < rxr> like this: http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/rene/photos/cebit-2004/thumbs/high-IMG_0722.JPG
21:53 < keinek> http://www.red-handed.com.ar/keinek.jpg
21:54 < keinek> me too
21:54 < keinek> now you look with much hair
21:54 < rxr> hehehe - nice woman, too ,-) your wife ?
21:55 < jeru> keinek: nice foto :)
21:56 < CIA-9> rene * r7712 /trunk/package/ (48 files in 25 dirs): * converted the manual fPIC injection to the new FPIC-QUIRK flag
21:58 < Minto> rxr: can expect be used in .conf files or is there an alternative?
21:59 < keinek> the woman have 18 years old
21:59 < keinek> the birtday was that day, a few days ago
21:59 < keinek> is a friend
21:59 < keinek> and told me that she dont look me like a man.
22:00 < keinek> "and?? what i am?? a monster?!?!"  i answer.
22:01 < keinek> but rxr the first photo is much better
22:01 < keinek> the hair short is better
22:01 < keinek> a less for be a comercial guy
22:01 < rxr> Minto: what do you want to do with expect ?
22:01 < keinek> long hair is like a hackker
22:01 < rxr> hehe -- yep ,-)
22:01 < rxr> mnemoc:will hate me for r7712 ,-)
22:02 < keinek> rxr do you have a copy of the posters that appear in the wall?
22:03 < rxr> sure
22:03 < keinek> i like have that
22:03 < keinek> for my new web page.
22:03 < rxr> http://exactcode.de/rene/t2-pr-poster.png
22:03 < rxr> .ps and so on are there, too
22:04 < keinek> in a few days i have www.t2-project.com.ar :P
22:04 < rxr> I can upload new versions - since those are older ...
22:04 < jeru> keinek: place the poster in front of your boss please ;)
22:04 < keinek> yes i will
22:04 < jeru> :D
22:04 < Minto> rxr: I think the .conf file for blackdown jre and jdk are wrong. They bypass the installation script that is part of the downloaded .bin file. This way a few install steps are missed. Now I want to use the install in the .bin file. However .bin works interactively.
22:04 < rxr> http://exactcode.de/valentin/T2.ps.gz
22:04 < rxr> ic
22:05 < rxr> Minto: why not just add the missing steps to the .conf then ...
22:05 < rxr> but you also could use expect ,-)
22:05 < rxr> if you think this is better maintainable or elegant ..
22:06 < Minto> I think it is indeed more elegant and less stuff to maintain, however dependancies for the build environment do increase (expect needs tcl needs ....)
22:07 < jeru> arrrrg
22:07 < Minto> Which way to go?
22:08 < Minto> maybe patch the .bin file?
22:08 < jeru> I would prefer not using expect
22:09 < Minto> Okay no expect, should I create a fat .conf or a patch for the .bin?
22:11 < Minto> I think patching the .bin is most elegant, however I do not know how to proceed on this?
22:12  * rxr phoning ...
23:00 < rxr> so
23:00 < rxr> back - huh? nothing in between? *g*
23:02 < Minto> rxr: I have prepared an email regarding these issues for the mailing list. I gotta go now.
23:02 < Minto> bedtime for me. n8 all.
23:02 < rxr> ah - cu then ,-)
23:02 < rxr> sleep well
23:02 < Minto> thanks
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23:14 < mnemoc> rxr: no comments
23:14 < rxr> to the FPIC-QUIRK ?
23:15 < mnemoc> yes :)
23:15 < rxr> but it is way better than the previous code, no ?
23:16 < mnemoc> rxr: what about a 'NODESTDIR' to add $root to foodirs?
23:16 < mnemoc> brb
23:16 < rxr> well - let's wait until we really try building (mostly) all cross ...
23:16 < rxr> and see how many need that quirk ...
23:32 < mnemoc> re
23:32 < mnemoc> rxr: 5-linux24 is broken
23:32 < rxr> new - or was it before ... ?
23:32 < mnemoc> rxr: i update my regressions report hourly, by cron
23:33 < mnemoc> new
23:33 < mnemoc> well, new on 7708
23:33 < mnemoc> 7712 just started
23:45 < rxr> mnemoc: maybe your previous linux24 broke because of my reversed fpic injection logic ...
23:46 < rxr> resulting in linux built with dPIC ? - hm - no it uses kcc that does not use the injections - IIRC ...
23:46 < rxr> anyway we'll see ...
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