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00:08 < jeru> good night ... 
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01:09 < mnemoc_> rehi
01:32 < CIA-9> amery * r7634 /trunk/misc/archive/RegressionsReport.sh: * improved RegressionsReport.sh to support -cfg
02:13 < CIA-9> amery * r7635 /trunk/misc/archive/AuditBuild.sh: * changed AuditBuild.sh to get newversion from patch instead of $config/packages
02:57 < CIA-9> amery * r7636 /trunk/package/x11/lesstif/lesstif.desc: * updated lesstif (0.93.96 -> 0.94.0)
02:58 < CIA-9> amery * r7637 /trunk/package/x11/rox-filer/rox-filer.desc: * updated rox-filer (2.1.3 -> 2.2.0)
02:58 < CIA-9> amery * r7638 /trunk/package/editors/nedit/ (5 files): * updated nedit (5.3 -> 5.5)
03:22 < CIA-9> amery * r7639 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-xkb-plugin/xfce4-xkb-plugin.conf: * changed xfce4-xkb-plugin to install el.png instead of gr.png (thanks Vassilis Laganakos)
03:23 < mnemoc_> NSS-MySQL 1.0??? /me pukes
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03:32 < ideal> morning
03:33 < mnemoc_> hi ideal 
03:34 < CIA-9> amery * r7640 /trunk/package/network/lat/lat.desc: * updated lat (0.4 -> 0.4.1)
03:42 < ideal> hi mnemoc_ :)
03:44 < mnemoc_> how is your new place?
03:47 < ideal> Thanks. Fine. Something need to be made on track:)
04:10 < _Ragnar_> rxr: on a64, bdb fails because g++ is called without -nostdlib, but has lib64/crti.o|crtbeginS.o|crtendS.o|crtn.o included, leading to double defined symbols
04:10 < _Ragnar_> or mnemoc_ :)
04:11 < mnemoc_> that's out of my scope, sorry
04:12 < _Ragnar_> okay
04:12 < mnemoc_> i'm _trying_ to fix stuff like that for x86 :)   i have to learn some day
04:12 < _Ragnar_> :)
04:13 < mnemoc_> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/T2/regressions.html
04:14 < mnemoc_> that is generated with misc/archive/RegressionsReport.sh
04:14 < _Ragnar_> O_O
04:14 < _Ragnar_> that's not in my trunk
04:16 < mnemoc_> svn up
04:18 < _Ragnar_> oh
04:19 < mnemoc_> is it?
04:20 < mnemoc_> any improvement is highly welcomed
04:20 < _Ragnar_> yes
04:21 < _Ragnar_> lot more errors for me
04:21 < mnemoc_> a64 :)
04:21 < _Ragnar_> :D
04:23 < mnemoc_> _Ragnar_: on src.bdb.*/cmd_wrapper you can see exactly what is executed, and you can var_append GCC_WRAPPER_APPEND ' ' '-nostdlib' or architecture/x86-64/pkg_bdb_post.conf
04:23 < mnemoc_> s/or/on/
04:26 < _Ragnar_> does GCC_WRAPPER_APPEND also apply to g++?
04:27 < mnemoc_> CXX_WRAPPER_APPEND
04:29 < mnemoc_> but according to the code, g++ use CXX+GCC+GCC3
04:29 < _Ragnar_> okay
04:52 < _Ragnar_> okay bdb built now :)
04:59 < mnemoc_> :)
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05:36 < Postal> Hey all
05:37 < Postal> mnemoc_, you around?
05:37 < mnemoc_> yep
05:38 < Postal> what do you know about ltconfig?
05:38 < mnemoc_> nothign
05:39 < Postal> updating cache /dev/null
05:39 < Postal> loading cache /dev/null within ltconfig
05:39 < Postal> ltconfig: you must specify a host type if you use `--no-verify'
05:39 < Postal> Try `ltconfig --help' for more information.
05:39 < Postal> configure: error: libtool configure failed
05:39 < Postal> configure: error: /bin/sh './configure' failed for lib-src/libmad
05:39 < Postal> and ltconfig --help is not a valid command...
05:39 < mnemoc_> :)
05:39 < Postal> why the happy face?
05:40 < mnemoc_> i assume that configure expects a different version of libtool
05:40 < Postal> ok, well its not going to get it... how can i specify?
05:40 < mnemoc_> no idea
05:40 < Postal> lol...
05:40 < mnemoc_> i'm alergic to libtool and friends
05:40 < Postal> i wonder what version it wants
05:41 < Postal> ...?
05:41 < mnemoc_> goodgel :)
05:41 < mnemoc_> google*
05:41 < Postal> google didnt turn up much 
05:41 < Postal> but ill try some other strings
05:42 < Postal> rpm -q libtool
05:42 < Postal> libtool-1.5.14.multilib2-6
05:42 < Postal> what is the .multilib2-6?
05:42 < mnemoc_> #fedora
05:43 < Postal> lol, i wish t2 was done compiling... im doing a full desktop target..
05:43 < mnemoc_> what stage-package was that?
05:44 < Postal> ...?
05:44 < mnemoc_> you said you where doing a t2 build
05:44 < mnemoc_> were*
05:44 < Postal> yeah.. but im working on fedora right now though
05:44 < mnemoc_> what stage-package gives tyou that error
05:44 < Postal> its not a t2 error
05:45 < Postal> t2 is building ok
05:45 < CIA-9> amery * r7641 /trunk/package/graphic/gpl-ghostscript/gpl-ghostscript.desc: * updated gpl-ghostscript (8.15 -> 8.50)
05:45 < mnemoc_> :)
05:45 < Postal> its a fedora error... i was just commenting on how i wish my nice shiney t2 was done..
05:46 < mnemoc_> i wish your T2 build :)
05:46 < Postal> although.. this FC4 with gcc4.0 and gnome 2.10 is pretty shiney... i have transset and xcompmngr running with the nvidia module so its FAST, i have transparency in real time... this irc window is .5 transparent...
05:47 < Postal> hold on i have to reboot for a sec and check something ill brb
05:47 < mnemoc_> i'll go to bed
05:48 < _Ragnar_> nini mnemoc_ 
05:48 < mnemoc_> happy hacking _Ragnar_ 
05:49 < _Ragnar_> thanks :)
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05:52 < Postal1> hmm i am still here lol
05:52 < Postal1> mnemoc_, how did you say to write zeros to a hd again?
05:53 < mnemoc_> cat 7dev/zero > /dev/hda
05:55 < CIA-9> amery * r7642 /trunk/package/multimedia/libfame/libfame.desc: * updated libfame (0.9.0 -> 0.9.1)
05:56 < mnemoc_> gn8 *
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06:34 < rxr_> re
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06:52 < Postal1> hey rxr 
06:54 < Postal1> how long should the command cat /dev/zero /dev/hdd take on a 80Gb hd?
07:04 < _Ragnar_> looong
07:05 < _Ragnar_> you should use dd with a big block size
07:05 < Postal1> [root@localhost edward]# cat /dev/zero > /dev/hdd
07:05 < Postal1> cat: write error: No space left on device
07:05 < Postal1> is that ok?
07:08 < _Ragnar_> yes
07:08 < _Ragnar_> unless it came back with this about only a few seconds
07:08 < Postal1> no mabey 5 or 6 min
07:09 < _Ragnar_> that's a little short
07:09 < Postal1> but fdisk gives me buffer errors
07:09 < _Ragnar_> try od -h /dev/hdd
07:09 < Postal1> [root@localhost edward]# cat /dev/zero > /dev/hdd
07:09 < Postal1> cat: write error: No space left on device
07:09 < Postal1> opps wrong window lol
07:10 < Postal1> od: /dev/hdd: read error: Input/output error
07:10 < Postal1> 0000000
07:10 < _Ragnar_> there's something wrong there
07:10 < _Ragnar_> you're use /dev/hdd is the right device?
07:10 < _Ragnar_> you're sure*
07:10 < Postal1> almost lol
07:10 < Postal1> let me dmesg it
07:11 < Postal1> the begining of dmesg says "end_request: I/O error, dev hdd, sector 117212008
07:11 < Postal1> end_request: I/O error, dev hdd, sector 117212016
07:11 < Postal1> end_request: I/O error, dev hdd, sector 117212024
07:11 < Postal1> end_request: I/O error, dev hdd, sector 117212032
07:11 < Postal1> end_request: I/O error, dev hdd, sector 117212040
07:11 < Postal1> end_request: I/O error, dev hdd, sector 117212048
07:11 < Postal1> end_request: I/O error, dev hdd, sector 117212056
07:11 < Postal1> "
07:11 < Postal1> and it goes on
07:12 < _Ragnar_> seems you got a bad HD
07:12 < Postal1> wierd
07:12 < Postal1> dmesg... does not appear to report anything about the kernel... it stops at "end_request: I/O error, dev hdd, sector 56
07:12 < Postal1> end_request: I/O error, dev hdd, sector 0"
07:13 < Postal1> shouldnt dmesg give me kernel output also...
07:13 < _Ragnar_> that is the kernel output
07:13 < Postal1> but not all of it surley
07:14 < _Ragnar_> dmesg has a limited buffer size
07:15 < Postal1> it was working fine a few days ago... what could cause a HD to go bad like that?
07:17 < _Ragnar_> bad motor, head got stuck, ....
07:17 < _Ragnar_> many things
07:17 < _Ragnar_> try to connect it to a different bus and try again
07:17 < _Ragnar_> made sure the power conn. is firmly seated
07:17 < _Ragnar_> make sure it's not more then hand warm
07:18 < Postal1> well its not warm..
07:19 < Postal1> power connect is seated... ill connect it to a diff bus in a bit and try again.. thats a good idea.. if not i think Western Digital might replace it
07:22 < _Ragnar_> WD
07:22 < Postal1> yup
07:23  * _Ragnar_ had only problems with WD
07:23 < Postal1> i have also a seagate and a Maxtor
07:23 < _Ragnar_> seagate is good for scsi imho
07:23 < _Ragnar_> maxtor is what I choose for IDE
07:23 < Postal1> maxtor is the sata
07:24 < Postal1> and seagate and WD are the two ide
07:24 < Postal1> Maxtor 120GB sata, WD 60GB and SG 80GB
07:24 < Postal1> but i have had nothing but problems with this nvidia bus
07:25 < _Ragnar_> nforce?
07:25 < Postal1> yeah
07:25 < _Ragnar_> 1, 2, 3 or 4?
07:25 < Postal1> 4 i suppose
07:25 < Postal1> its brand new
07:25 < _Ragnar_> most recent?
07:25 < _Ragnar_> oh
07:25 < _Ragnar_> you have installed the nvidia supplied drivers?
07:26 < Postal1> no... the problems are on the kernel and boot level... 
07:26 < _Ragnar_> yes they supply kernel drivers
07:26 < Postal1> more on the installing diff things level...
07:27 < Postal1> like ie... when i first got the box.. i wanted to use gentoo... and that did not work..
07:27 < Postal1> i have problems with installers
07:27 < Postal1> I would really like a live cd to install t2 from... do you know of any 64bit live cd's?
07:30 < _Ragnar_> oh
07:30 < _Ragnar_> I got mipe to send me a built system which I just untarred
07:30 < _Ragnar_> I had little luck with gentoo
07:30 < Postal1> a 64bit one?
07:30 < _Ragnar_> yes
07:31 < Postal1> is it a full generic build?
07:31 < _Ragnar_> no of course not
07:31 < Postal1> lol
07:31 < Postal1> minimal?
07:32 < _Ragnar_> not all minimal, but no X or unnecessary stuff
07:32 < _Ragnar_> I can send you the image
07:32 < Postal1> is it on an ftp or something like that?
07:32 < _Ragnar_> yes
07:33 < Postal1> could i dl it, or do i have to get a link and pass from mipe?
07:33 < _Ragnar_> ftp://t2up:t2up@216.250.77.230/
07:34 < Postal1> now how does one install this?
07:36 < _Ragnar_> boot a 32 bit linux cd, make a normal partition, and untar it to this partition
07:36 < _Ragnar_> setup grub to boot the kernel included
07:38 < _Ragnar_> that should be more or less it
07:38 < _Ragnar_> I had no problems booting this on my nforce 3
07:43 < _Ragnar_> gotta head off now tho
07:43 < _Ragnar_> good luck :)
07:43 < Postal1> ok cu _Ragnar_ 
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10:54 < mipe> hi *
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11:10 < jeru> moin :)
11:14 < mipe> hi jeru
11:17 < jeru> hi mipe
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12:54 < rxr> hi
12:55 < rxr> nice - from 06.05.2005 I'll be converted from t-offline to hansenet / alice ...
12:55 < rxr> higher speed at less costs ... ,-)
12:55 < mipe> :)
13:22 < jeru> hi rxr :)
13:23 < jeru> so you want to migrate your dsl to hansenet/alice? what about versatel?
13:25 < rxr> Novell Says Its Next Linux Desktop Will Surpass Windows
13:25 < rxr>     Posted by Eugenia Loli-Queru on 2005-03-22 07:53:14 UTC
13:25 < rxr>   At its BrainShare conference, the company says its Novell Linux Desktop 10 will include a new desktop search technology, named Beagle, along with a technology for rendering the desktop using the GPU.
13:58 < CIA-9> rene * r7643 /trunk/package/www/mozilla/mozilla.desc: * updated mozilla (1.7.5 -> 1.7.6)
14:00 < CIA-9> rene * r7644 /trunk/package/mail/thunderbird/thunderbird.desc: * updated thunderbird (1.0 -> 1.0.2)
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14:03 < maddin> hi
14:03 < maddin> rxr: are u at home_?
14:05 < maddin> okay, i Must go. rxr, you can send me a mail, plaeaswe
14:05 < maddin> cu
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14:12 < jsaw> re
14:13 < rxr> hi jsaw 
14:13 < jsaw> hi rxr
14:15 < jeru> hi jsaw
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14:18 < jsaw> hi jeru 
14:19 < rxr> hm - wing commander is really a quite borring movie ...
14:23 < jeru> rxr: yep ... I liked to play the game but the movie is just crap
14:24 < mipe> :)
14:27 < rxr> wasn't the game already boring ? ... ,-)
14:33 < rxr> at least I can fast rewind the commercials - and the most boring scenes
14:34 < mnemoc_> rehi
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14:34 < rxr> jsaw: what do you think - should we skip the commonly present dependencies needed for configure runs (that is mostly noise) from the .cache files automatically ?
14:34 < rxr> hi mnemoc_ 
14:34 < jsaw> hmm
14:35 < mnemoc_> hi rxr, jsaw 
14:35 < jsaw> hi mnemoc_ 
14:35 < jsaw> rxr: are the deps used in any form?
14:36 < mnemoc_> only by some not-used helpers
14:37 < rxr> ?
14:37 < jsaw> then skip
14:37 < CIA-9> rene * r7645 /trunk/package/graphic/jpeg2ps/ (. jpeg2ps.cache jpeg2ps.conf jpeg2ps.desc): * added jpeg2ps (1.9)
14:37 < mnemoc_> not-used-often helpers
14:37 < rxr> the deps are used to to generate the priority list - hower we are working to remove the static prority as soon as possible ..
14:37 < rxr> I'm talking about the .cache DEPS ...
14:38 < mnemoc_> will we update those?
14:38 < jsaw> I don't see a reason to re-generate the priority list currently, or?
14:38 < rxr> sure - now that the cleaned layout is in place we keep them in sync ..
14:38 < rxr> that was my intention to make them one per line and remove other ID noise ...
14:39 < mnemoc_> that is usefull for Emerge -dep
14:39 < rxr> my plan is to get rid of the static priority after 2.1 as soon as possible ...
14:39 < rxr> full dep graph resolving for 2.2 ...
14:40 < mnemoc_> libt2deps.a
14:40 < mnemoc_> libt2pkg.a
14:40 < jsaw> hehe
14:40 < mnemoc_> :)
14:41 < mnemoc_> a good libt2pkg.a would have foo-% lot easier
14:41 < CIA-9> amery * r7646 /trunk/package/graphic/autotrace/autotrace.desc: * fixed autotrace download location
14:41 < mnemoc_> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/T2/regressions.html <-- voluntiers
14:41 < mnemoc_> mipe: you can use misc/archive/RegressionsReport.sh to generate --^ if you want :)
14:47 < mnemoc_> *headache*
14:49 < mnemoc_> jeru: do you use LDAP backend for krb5? 
14:50 < rxr> you LDAP everything, right ?
14:50 < rxr> # l */*/*.desc | wc -l
14:50 < rxr> 1487
14:51 < mnemoc_> 6i have been unable to use heimdal's LDAP backend
14:51 < mnemoc_> i want to LDAPize everything here
14:56 < rxr> ic
14:57 < jeru> hi mnemoc :)
14:57 < mnemoc_> hi jeru 
14:58 < rxr> hi jeru 
15:00 < jeru> btw: tried to fix prelude-manager ... but there seems no way atm ... but talked with the maintainer and he said we should use the trunk version because he wants to get out a RC this week
15:00 < jeru> hi rxr 
15:00 < mnemoc_> jeru: cvs and svn are handled by our Download
15:01 < jeru> mnemomc: yeah I know :)
15:01 < mnemoc_> :)
15:01 < jeru> mnemoc: have you tried ldapdns or at least reviewed the package ? ;)
15:02 < mnemoc_> does that .tail do what it should?
15:02 < mnemoc_> i didn't saw an schema there, what does it use?
15:03 < jeru> yeah ... tail file is functioning quite good .... but the config parameters are very generic ones ... 
15:03 < jeru> mnemoc: but you've to chmod 400 root/password
15:04 < jeru> after you changed it ;)
15:05 < jeru> btw: can we set file perms in tail files?
15:06 < jeru> mnemoc: you have to include cosine.schema for dNSDomain object
15:06 < jeru> mnemoc: all RR's are dcObjects
15:07 < mnemoc_> jeru: nice
15:07 < jeru> :D
15:07 < mnemoc_> jeru: perms, not yet... i have to redesign tail :\
15:08 < jeru> hmmm ... but that's not a problem atm because ldapdns won't start if root/password isn't 400
15:08 < mnemoc_> i want to use it ro replace .cron and postsysfiles too
15:08 < jeru> yeah ... I know ... that would be nice too :)
15:09 < mnemoc_> jeru: that's not really a problem because that requires the desired sysadmin work
15:09 < mnemoc_> jeru: add and secure the passwd :)
15:10 < jeru> ack :)
15:10 < jeru> mnemoc: what's the URL of your tail description again ... have to add a bookmark
15:10 < mnemoc_> http://wiki.t2-project.org/index.cgi?TailFormat
15:10 < mnemoc_> i also want to do a 'limit' option to remove softlimit from 'run'
15:11 < mnemoc_> limit\tcpu\tvalue
15:11 < mnemoc_> limit\tmemory\tvalue
15:11 < jeru> mnemoc: of course sysadmin should use a different bind DN (not cn=Manager, ...)
15:12 < jeru> but because our default slapd.conf is quite simple I used the naming from there
15:12 < mnemoc_> yes
15:14 < jeru> I thought if somebody wants to use LDAP in production he has to a have a minimum knowledge about it ;)
15:14 < mnemoc_> yep
15:14 < mnemoc_> do you use ldap backend of heimdal?
15:15 < jeru> not yet
15:15 < jeru> :/
15:15 < mnemoc_> i get syntax errors when initializing the realm :(
15:15 < mnemoc_> and i don't see the F* systax error
15:15 < CIA-9> amery * r7647 /trunk/package/multimedia/mplayer/parallelism.patch: * fixed parallelism on mplayer
15:18 < jeru> mnemoc: sorry can't help with heimdal/ldap problem atm, sorry :/
15:20 < mnemoc_> can i use more than one domain on ldapdns? i.e. without suffix?
15:22 < mnemoc_> this has been a bad week to me/ldap :\
15:23 < mnemoc_> phpldapadm don't want to use my ldapi
15:23 < jeru> mnemoc: I think it will work 
15:23 < mnemoc_> heimdal with syntax crap, etc...
15:23 < mnemoc_> jeru: nice
15:23 < jeru> mnemoc: btw, the sysntax in slapd run script is obsolete
15:24 < jeru> at least the ldaps
15:24 < mnemoc_> yes?
15:24 < mnemoc_> ldaps:/// ?
15:25 < jeru> yep ... because newer versions of openldap don't use it anymore ... it was a workaround for using port 636
15:25 < mipe> http://212.66.194.40/regressions/full/regressions.html
15:25 < mnemoc_> mipe: :D
15:26 < mnemoc_> mipe: are you using HEAD?
15:26 < mnemoc_> .oO( not yours, t2's :p )o
15:26 < mnemoc_> mipe: i thought ragnar had fixed gcc/libdir
15:28 < mipe> mnemoc_: yep he changed the common lib references to $libdir but i made some other changes too,have to review them sometime and move them to arch/$pkg.post(is this working?)
15:29 < mnemoc_> architecture/$arch/pkg_$pkg_post.conf
15:29 < mipe> mnemoc_:did busybox build on you? it loops here...
15:29 < mnemoc_> yes, is working :)
15:29 < mipe> creating funny ~700mb log file
15:30 < mnemoc_> i haven't tried after rene increased the loop count
15:30 < mnemoc_> mom
15:30 < mipe> i belive it loops inside ./setup, atleast log file indicates that
15:30 < mnemoc_> uhm
15:31 < mnemoc_> let me rebuild it
15:32 < CIA-9> mika * r7648 /trunk/package/audio/gsm/gsm.conf: * add -fPIC to gsm to fix ld errors
15:32 < CIA-9> mika * r7649 /trunk/package/contrib/rrdtool/rrdtool.conf: * add -fPIC to rrdtool to fix ld errors
15:33 < mnemoc_> mipe: what ld errors -fPIC solve?
15:33 < CIA-9> mika * r7650 /trunk/package/e17/evas/evas.conf: * add -fPIC to evas to fix ld errors
15:34 < mnemoc_> mipe: it's lauching an interface!
15:35 < mnemoc_> var_append premake 1 'auto_config 2'
15:35 < mnemoc_> that's the problem
15:35 < CIA-9> mika * r7651 /trunk/package/graphic/jasper/jasper.conf: * add -fPIC to jasper,fixing ld errors
15:35 < mipe> mnemoc_: havent it always launched a interface? i think i got it build month ago or so
15:36 < mnemoc_> mipe: nope, autoconfig should bypass that
15:36 < mipe> -fPIC is for fixing relocation errors on linking
15:36 < mnemoc_> do you know a tip to let gcc find libraries on the middle of the command line?
15:37 < mnemoc_> mipe: busybox building
15:37 < mipe> from middle of the command line?
15:38 < CIA-9> amery * r7652 /trunk/package/base/busybox/busybox.conf: * fixed busybox, add hooks using hook_add not var_append o_O
15:38 < mnemoc_> gcc blah blah -l thing blah blah -Wlblah -o foo
15:38 < mnemoc_> -lthing i mean
15:38 < mnemoc_> -lthing not found
15:38 < mipe> and you want to grap -lthing?
15:38 < mnemoc_> if i call gcc with -lthing at the end the library is found
15:39 < mnemoc_> _BUT_ libtool insist in putting them in the middle
15:39 < mnemoc_> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/T2/log/5-gnome-media.err
15:41 < mipe> sorry dont know quick solutions, but i belive i have same kind of errors on few of my packages. doesnt find xml library
15:41 < mnemoc_> i even tried to patch libtool itself, but that thing is discusting
15:42 < CIA-9> mika * r7653 /trunk/package/kde/kdelibs/kdelibs.conf: * add -fPIC to kdelibs,fixing ld relocation error
15:43 < mnemoc_> mipe: busybox fixed there?
15:43 < CIA-9> mika * r7654 /trunk/package/multimedia/mjpegtools/mjpegtools.conf: * add -fPIC to mjpegtools,fixing ld relocation error
15:44 < mipe> mnemoc_: i'll try,forgot to rebuild it
15:44 < mnemoc_> OT: what do you think is missing on RegressionsReport.sh?
15:45 < mnemoc_> == 03/22/05 11:45:37 =[5]=> Finished building package busybox.
15:45 < jeru> :)
15:45 < mnemoc_> jeru: comments about that?
15:45 < mipe> nothing :) ,well maybe check patch files
15:45 < mipe> i mean show patch files.
15:46 < mnemoc_> it does
15:46 < mnemoc_> click on UPDATED or CAHNGED
15:47 < CIA-9> mika * r7655 /trunk/package/network/dansguardian/dansguardian.conf: * fix dansguardian on x86-64,inserting libdir=$libdir to make
15:47 < mipe> i mean .patch files it only shows .conf .desc and stuff but not locally added files(not in svn)
15:48 < mnemoc_> yes, you need to svn add them :(
15:48 < mipe> yep
15:49 < mnemoc_> -includedir=$includedir/db${ver:0:1}
15:49 < mnemoc_> -
15:49 < rxr> hm
15:49 < rxr> Bootstrapping the compiler
15:49 < rxr> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/rene/develop/openbench/gcc-4.1-20050320/gcc'
15:49 < rxr> make[1]: *** No rule to make target `bootstrap'.  Stop.
15:49 < mnemoc_> why did you changed that for bdb?
15:49 < mnemoc_> rxr: o_O
15:49 < mnemoc_> rxr: it seems to have changed a bit
15:50 < CIA-9> mika * r7656 /trunk/package/security/openhbci/openhbci.conf: * add -fPIC to openhbci,fixing ld relocation error
15:50 < CIA-9> mika * r7657 /trunk/package/x11/vnc/vnc.conf: * add -fPIC to vnc,fixing ld relocation error
15:51 < rxr> I think I need coffee ...
15:52  * mnemoc_ wants too
15:52 < mipe> i just drank
15:52 < mnemoc_> rxr: how went your exams
15:53 < mnemoc_> mipe: i have free cocacola here, now my stomach is kind of 'hostile' to caffeine
15:53 -!- Sparc-kly|G4 [~sparc@64.237.135.212] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)]
16:02 < jeru> mnemoc: don't ask rxr about exams ;)
16:03 < mnemoc_> :)
16:03 < mnemoc_> taboo
16:04 < rxr> hm
16:04 < rxr> touch stamp-picdir
16:04 < rxr> make[1]: *** No rule to make target `../include/ansidecl.h', needed by `regex.o'.  Stop.
16:04 < rxr> both - 4.0 and 4.1 do not build out of the box ?!?!?
16:05 < mnemoc_> oh
16:06 < rxr> config.status: executing default-1 commands
16:06 < rxr> ./config.status: line 910: ./../../config-ml.in: No such file or directory
16:06 < rxr> make: *** [configure-zlib] Error 1
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16:11 < rxr> hm
16:11 < rxr> the new release needs to be build in a objdir ... ,-)
16:11 < rxr> now it is running ...
16:12 < rxr> "bug" in my openbench gcc build script ..
16:12 < rxr> I guess I should migrate that as t2 target some time soon ,-)
16:12 < mnemoc_> hehe
16:13 < CIA-9> chris * r7658 /trunk/package/security/scanlogd/scanlogd.conf: * fixed scanlogd.conf that it will build again
16:18 < rxr> mnemoc_: what do we do with the drupal site
16:18 < rxr> I'm not very comfortable with the configuration work - especially good navigation ...
16:18 < rxr> fight with it? or e.g. try s.th. else - that is maybe ez_publish ?
16:19 < mnemoc_> rxr: feel free to do whatever you want on that field :)
16:19 < rxr> mnemoc_: what is your impression of drupal ?
16:20 < mnemoc_> rxr: i got used to it's navigation
16:20 < rxr> there is not yet one on the production site ...
16:20 < rxr> am I the only one missing some left side tree view of the content ?
16:20 < rxr> ICANN gibt gr? 1/4 nes Licht f? 1/4 r .eu-Domain
16:20 < rxr> hm - that is a bad cut'n paste ...
16:21 < rxr> translation : ICANN gives .eu domain green lights ...
16:21 < rxr> 4.0 still bootstrapping ...
16:21 < mnemoc_> rebe.eu ?
16:22 < rxr> mnemoc_: keep silent - or I have to edit the log to not reviel that ...
16:22 < mnemoc_> :p
16:26 < rxr> == 03/22/05 16:25:52 =[9]=> Finished building package thunderbird.
16:26 < jeru> damn SAP migration ... boring :/
16:26 < jeru> I want to go home ... 
16:27 < mnemoc_> uhm... 14 packages rescheduled :\ 
16:48 < rxr> mnemoc_: any response from this x86-64 rocker ?
16:49 < mnemoc_> nothing
16:50 < rxr> 4.0 still bootsrapping ... .-(
16:50 < mnemoc_> bootstrapping or looping? :p
16:52 < mipe> hih,how long has it bootstrapped?
16:52 < rxr> still running ...
16:57 < rxr> 4.0 building libstdc
16:58 < rxr> ++ right now
16:59 -!- Postal [~Postal@ool-4356292a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #t2
16:59 < Postal> Hey all
17:01 < jeru> hi Postal
17:01  * jeru is leaving now ... cu later
17:01 -!- jeru [~jeru@mail.oberlinhaus.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
17:01 < Postal> oh cu jeru
17:01 < Postal> mipe, you around?
17:01 < mipe> yep,shower soonish
17:02 < Postal> The tarball you built... i tried to use it last night... but could not find the kernel anywhere... was there one, or was i just not looking hard enough..
17:04 < mipe> Postal:lemme check,there should be one
17:04 < Postal> mipe, i had not /boot directory.. so it was not there and in /usr/src.. all i found were patches
17:05 < rxr> + popd
17:05 < rxr> gcc 40 installed
17:05 < mipe> :) took some time
17:06 < Postal> gcc 4.0 is NICE
17:06 < Postal> im using in now matter of fact..
17:06 < Postal> the FC4 that im building from is built on it
17:07 < mipe> postal:yep no kernel,just the modules. so you have to chroot to it and rebuild kernel
17:07 < mipe> that is if you want to use it
17:07 < rxr> wow - tiscali is unfriendly ...
17:07 < rxr> I wanted to quit my DSL ther e...
17:07 < rxr> and the person hang up the phone!
17:07 < mipe> *lol*
17:07 < Postal> ah ok.. i was in knoppix so i could not do that.. i did think about it though
17:08 < rxr> he wanted to explain me the sense of DSL lines - and why I need to pay 32EUR/month for the telephone line that I do not need ...
17:08 < rxr> I stopped him shortly  and 
17:08 < rxr> told him that I'm soon Dipl. Ing. Informatik and he just hang up ...
17:08 < rxr> wonderful ...
17:09 < mipe> http://212.66.194.40/regressions/full/regressions.html
17:09  * mipe at shower
17:10 < mnemoc_> why gcc4.0 is nice?
17:10 < Postal> mnemoc_, its NEW AND SHINEY lol
17:11 < mnemoc_> good arguemnt :)
17:13 < Postal> I really like the bleeding edge lol
17:13 < rxr> mnemoc_: gcc does use an way advanced form of internal code representation - and thus can yield better optimized code
17:13 < rxr> code name: tree-ssa ...
17:14 < rxr> and it includes the beginning of auto vectorization support - thus automatically using vector instructions for some loops ...
17:14 < jsaw> cu later
17:14 < mnemoc_> cu sj
17:14 < rxr> as the ICC does for some time now ..
17:14 < rxr> cu jsaw 
17:14  * Postal uses a lifeline then looks at rxr for all things technical about gcc lol
17:14 < mnemoc_> jsaw*
17:14 < Postal> cu jsaw 
17:14 < jsaw> :)
17:14 < rxr> well - the 2nd call center person was friendlier ...
17:15 < mnemoc_> call center?
17:15 < rxr> their online quit form has a bug right now ...
17:15 < rxr> tiscali - my current ISP
17:15 < Postal> rxr, thos 900 numbers can be expensive ;-)
17:15 < rxr> I'll get a new land-line next week ...
17:15 < mnemoc_> rxr: the italian?
17:15 < rxr> Postal: 0800 - free in germany ...
17:15 < rxr> mnemoc_: yes - faster and cheaper ...
17:15 < mnemoc_> rxr: and berlusconi?
17:15 < Postal> 0900 = adult chat # in US
17:16 < Postal> ;-)
17:16 < Postal> thats why it was funny...
17:16 < mnemoc_> do you have adult chat with call center people?
17:16 < rxr> mnemoc_: owns only a small part ... ,-) and the german telekom is also a group I would not hand too much money to ...
17:16 < mnemoc_> :)
17:16 < rxr> Postal: thought s.th. like that ,-)
17:16 < Postal> lol
17:17 < rxr> bin-4.0-20050319
17:17 < Postal> rxr, is glibc32 in the minimal pkg template?
17:17 < rxr> ok - so testing can go on ...
17:17 < rxr> Postal: I think so ...
17:17 < Postal> ok
17:17 < rxr> not directly - I think I added LIBC to potentionally enable all libcs reasonable ...
17:17 < Postal> "x glibc32"
17:17 < rxr> Postal: ther should be X LIBC in it ..
17:18 < mnemoc_> flags don't work on pkgsel
17:18 < rxr> ouhm - not ?
17:18 < mnemoc_> due to the perl/perl rework
17:18 < Postal> mnemoc_, so to enable glibc32 in pkgsl it would be x glibc32?
17:18 < rxr> in the template neither ?
17:18 < mnemoc_> X glibc32
17:18 < Postal> capital x 
17:18 < mnemoc_> rxr: templates use sed afaik :)
17:19 < rxr> yep ...
17:19 < rxr> I was just talking about them - and that it should work ..
17:19 < rxr> Postal:  what do you try to do ?=
17:19 < rxr> pkgfilter sed '
17:19 < rxr> LIBC /        { p; d; };
17:19 < rxr> CC /          { p; d; };
17:19 < Postal>  rxr, i am just editing the package selection rules to ensure that glibc32 is dl and installed
17:19 < rxr> Postal: it should work out of the box
17:20 < rxr> doesn't it ?
17:20 < Postal> it did not last time...
17:20 < Postal> granted this was a week ago or so
17:20 < mnemoc_> when 'last time' was?
17:20 < mnemoc_> uhm
17:20 < rxr> Postal: always test vanilla first - and scream if it does not work ...
17:20 < Postal> isnt it better to plan and not scream...\
17:20 < rxr> T2 shoudl work - and not feel BETA all the time like e.g. ROCK or Gentoo do ... *g*
17:21 < mnemoc_> or fedora :)
17:21 < rxr> never tested fedora ...
17:21 < Postal> well my fedora isnt even beta... 
17:21 < Postal> its a test1 release
17:21 < mnemoc_> and ltconfig doesn't work :p
17:21 < Postal> then a test two will come out then a three//
17:22 < Postal> then they will release some stable "ish" betas...
17:22 < Postal> then a final...
17:22 < Postal> in about two or so months from now lol
17:22 < Postal> but ok vanilla it is
17:23 < Postal>  hmm the relatives took my car... i wish they would ask first...
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17:24 < keinek> hi everybody!
17:24 < Postal> hi keinek 
17:24 < Postal> rxr, is 2.10 in the repo yet?
17:24 < Postal> gnome that is
17:25 < rxr> Postal: sure
17:25 < rxr> but I know a bug ...
17:25 < Postal> oh
17:25 < rxr> (many icons do not show up - but so far it is usable)
17:25 < rxr> mnemoc_: have you tried 2.10 ?
17:25 < rxr> $ ./multi-bench.sh 4.0-20050319
17:25 < rxr> No benchmark specified - using detected ones:
17:25 < rxr> gzip-1.2.4a bzip2-1.0.2 openssl-0.9.7d gnupg-1.2.4
17:25 < rxr> 	            libmad-0.15.0b linux-2.6.6 Botan-1.3.13
17:25 < rxr> => Run name: 4.0-20050319
17:25 < rxr>    CC  used: gcc (4.0.0) -O2
17:25 < rxr>    CXX used: g++ (4.0.0) -O2
17:25 < rxr> gzip-1.2.4a
17:25 < rxr>   Building ... 2.43 + 0.21
17:25 < rxr>   Building ... 2.42 + 0.22
17:25 < rxr>   Building ... 2.43 + 0.22
17:25 < rxr> Avg: 2.64333
17:26 < Postal> well you are the veritable king of patch fixes... prehaps you should fix it lol
17:26 < Postal> rxr, im on 2.10 right now also.. it is very nice
17:26 < rxr> I already fixed that the panel-menu is populated ..
17:26 < rxr> and I hate gnome - I hoped someone else wanna use it ..
17:27 < Postal> I LOVE GNOME
17:27 < Postal> ;-)
17:27 < Postal> i just like the way it feels
17:27 < Postal> i always feel like kde is klunky
17:27 < mnemoc_> rxr: not yet, and i have some brokes on it too
17:27 < mnemoc_> rxr: brokes i don't even know how to fix
17:28 < Postal> mnemoc_, breaks.. no brokes
17:28 < mnemoc_> breaks*
17:28 < Postal> brokes is not a word...
17:28 < Postal> i dont think
17:28 < Postal> ;-)
17:29 < mnemoc_> can you say 'broken things' in onw word?
17:29 < mnemoc_> one*
17:29 < Postal> yes
17:29 < mnemoc_> breaks?
17:29 < Postal> ok lesson time
17:30 < Postal> To break is the infinitive, breaks is the plural present and past tense... broke is the singular past tense, and broken its plural... something can be broken.. something can break.. things can be broken, or there can be breaks...
17:31 < mnemoc_> o_O
17:31 < Postal> does that make sense...?
17:31 < keinek> oh shit my brain is broken
17:31 < mnemoc_> kind of
17:32 < keinek> i speak like tarzan.
17:32 < keinek> but i dont care.
17:32 < keinek> dont you?
17:32 < Postal> well at least you used broken.. the word we are talking about correctly
17:32 < _Ragnar_> breakage
17:32 < keinek> only for this time postal
17:32 < _Ragnar_> ;)
17:32 < keinek> ;)
17:32 < Postal> ;-) and actualy keinek you speak quite well
17:33 < mnemoc_> :D
17:33 < keinek> :)
17:33 < keinek> mnemoc_ diles que deje de trabajar de martes a miercoles por las tarde para estar con uds.
17:33 < Postal> Ok i have to go and meet with the people that are installing the computer multimedia control system... ill be back in a bit,,
17:34 < keinek> now, mnemoc_ will translate the sentense of above.
17:34 < mnemoc_> he left a job to work tu and we with us
17:36 < keinek> mnemoc_, everybody is quite, please tell us that i am not gay.
17:36 < keinek> i only want fonts in my kde :D
17:37 < keinek> hello???? is anybody in there?
17:37 < mnemoc_> keinek: you are just nut
17:38 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
17:38 < rxr> hehe
17:40 < keinek> nut is like crazy?
17:41 < rxr>        -ftree-vectorize
17:41 < rxr>            Perform loop vectorization on trees.
17:41 < keinek> everybody told me that.
17:42 < mnemoc_> how much longer does it take to build glibc? :p
17:45 < keinek> ok... the problem with the fonts in kde, i think that happens because i dont compile kde-i18n-es
17:45 < keinek> right?
17:45 < keinek> or... meaby... the microsoft font dont compile
17:46 < mnemoc_> they built here
17:46 < mnemoc_> kde-i18n-* are optional
17:46 < rxr> inflate.c:656: note: vectorized 2 loops in function.
17:46 < rxr> gzip benchmark ...
17:46 < mnemoc_> rxr: you may need to wait for foo-% before adding your benchmark target
17:47 < Postal> Well now that was fun lol
17:47 < rxr> hm - on bzip2 some stuff is claimed to get vectorized ... ,-)
17:48 < rxr> blocksort.c:264: note: vectorized 3 loops in function.
17:48 < rxr> huffman.c:200: note: vectorized 2 loops in function.
17:48 < rxr> compress.c:645: note: vectorized 2 loops in function.
17:48 < rxr> blocksort.c:264: note: vectorized 3 loops in function.
17:48 < rxr> huffman.c:200: note: vectorized 2 loops in function.
17:48 < rxr> compress.c:645: note: vectorized 2 loops in function.
17:48 < rxr> blocksort.c:264: note: vectorized 3 loops in function.
17:48 < rxr> huffman.c:200: note: vectorized 2 loops in function.
17:48 < rxr> compress.c:645: note: vectorized 2 loops in function.
17:50 < rxr> but with mplayer dvb decoding background load the runtime of bzip2 is not yet notably faster ...
17:51 < rxr> hm - mpeg2 decoding does validate too many caches ...
17:51 < rxr>  96.16 + 0.92
17:51 < rxr>   Running ... 92.75 + 0.61
17:51 < rxr> first with 2nd without that load ...
17:52 < rxr> and I already only take the cpu time ...
17:52 < rxr> of course the final numbers will be taken with an otherwise idle machine ...
17:52 < mnemoc_> and gcc3.4 how did it performed?
17:53 < rxr> I only have the numbers on paper ..
17:53 < rxr> best wait until I have new numbers tomorrow morning or so ...
17:54 < mnemoc_> ok
17:54 < rxr> the data will be release in the last years form:
17:54 < rxr> http://exactcode.de/rene/hidden/gcc-article/stat2-athlon-rt.png
17:55 < Postal> '
17:55 < Postal> /bin/sh ./libtool --mode=link gcc -W -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -g -O2  -o readelf  readelf.o version.o unwind-ia64.o  ../libiberty/libiberty.a -ldl
17:55 < Postal> gcc -W -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -g -O2 -o readelf readelf.o version.o unwind-ia64.o  ../libiberty/libiberty.a -ldl
17:55 < Postal> make[3]: Leaving directory `/mnt/t2/t2-trunk/src.binutils.1111510071.2507.7f0100/binutils-2.15.94.0.2.2/binutils'
17:55 < Postal> make[2]: Leaving directory `/mnt/t2/t2-trunk/src.binutils.1111510071.2507.7f0100/binutils-2.15.94.0.2.2/binutils'
17:55 < Postal> make[1]: Leaving directory `/mnt/t2/t2-trunk/src.binutils.1111510071.2507.7f0100/binutils-2.15.94.0.2.2/binutils'
17:55 < Postal> Due to previous errors, no 0-binutils.log file!
17:55 < Postal> (Try enabling xtrace in the config to track an error inside the build system.)
17:55 < Postal> i thought i did enable it but i guess not lol
17:55 < Postal> it is enabled...
17:55 < mnemoc_> nothing usefull there
17:56 < Postal> i knwo
17:56 < Postal> /mnt/t2/t2-trunk/src.binutils.1111510071.2507.7f0100/binutils-2.15.94.0.2.2/binutils/bucomm.c:425: warning: the use of `mktemp' is dangerous, better use `mkstemp'
17:56 < Postal> bucomm.o(.text+0x561): In function `make_tempname':
17:56 < Postal> /mnt/t2/t2-trunk/src.binutils.1111510071.2507.7f0100/binutils-2.15.94.0.2.2/binutils/bucomm.c:425: warning: the use of `mktemp' is dangerous, better use `mkstemp'
17:56 < Postal> gcc -W -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -g -O2 -o objcopy objcopy.o not-strip.o rename.o rddbg.o debug.o stabs.o ieee.o rdcoff.o wrstabs.o bucomm.o version.o filemode.o  ../bfd/.libs/libbfd.a ../libiberty/libiberty.a -ldl
17:56 < Postal> bucomm.o(.text+0x561): In function `make_tempname':
17:56 < Postal> /mnt/t2/t2-trunk/src.binutils.1111510071.2507.7f0100/binutils-2.15.94.0.2.2/binutils/bucomm.c:425: warning: the use of `mktemp' is dangerous, better use `mkstemp'
17:57 < Postal> gcc -W -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -g -O2 -o objdump objdump.o budemang.o prdbg.o rddbg.o debug.o stabs.o ieee.o rdcoff.o bucomm.o version.o filemode.o  ../opcodes/.libs/libopcodes.a ../bfd/.libs/libbfd.a ../libiberty/libiberty.a -ldl
17:57 < Postal> gcc -W -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -g -O2 -o strip-new objcopy.o is-strip.o rename.o rddbg.o debug.o stabs.o ieee.o rdcoff.o wrstabs.o bucomm.o version.o filemode.o  ../bfd/.libs/libbfd.a ../libiberty/libiberty.a -ldl
17:57 < Postal> bucomm.o(.text+0x561): In function `make_tempname':
17:57 < Postal> /mnt/t2/t2-trunk/src.binutils.1111510071.2507.7f0100/binutils-2.15.94.0.2.2/binutils/bucomm.c:425: warning: the use of `mktemp' is dangerous, better use `mkstemp'
17:57 < Postal> bucomm.o(.text+0x561): In function `make_tempname':
17:57 < Postal> /mnt/t2/t2-trunk/src.binutils.1111510071.2507.7f0100/binutils-2.15.94.0.2.2/binutils/bucomm.c:425: warning: the use of `mktemp' is dangerous, better use `mkstemp'
17:57 < Postal> bucomm.o(.text+0x561): In function `make_tempname':
17:57 < Postal> /mnt/t2/t2-trunk/src.binutils.1111510071.2507.7f0100/binutils-2.15.94.0.2.2/binutils/bucomm.c:425: warning: the use of `mktemp' is dangerous, better use `mkstemp'
17:57 < Postal> /bin/sh ./libtool --mode=link gcc -W -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes
17:57 < Postal> there is no error there... but that is the log
18:00 < mnemoc_> don't do that again please
18:00 < mnemoc_> publish your errorlog somewhere
18:00 < mnemoc_> http
18:01 < mnemoc_> you can use misc/archive/RegressionsReport.sh to generate a web page with usefull info
18:07 < Postal> sry
18:09 < Postal>  misc/archive/RegressionsReport.sh
18:09 < Postal> mv: cannot move `regressions/regressions.default.html' to `regressions/default/regressions.html': No such file or directory
18:09 < mnemoc_> uhm
18:09 < rxr> some loops in openssl get vectorized, too
18:09 < mnemoc_> nothing above?
18:10 < Postal> no thats all of it
18:10 < mnemoc_> ls regressions/
18:10 < rxr> dito gnupg ...
18:10 < mnemoc_> rxr: :)
18:10 < Postal> regressions.default.html
18:11 < rxr> libmad as well ,-)
18:11 < rxr> too bad I have no Altivec enabled PowerPC ...
18:11 < Postal> rxr, what are yo talking about lol
18:11 < rxr> I doubt with so few SPARC devels the vectorizer will do much with the UltraSPARCs VIS ...
18:11 < rxr> Postal: your so much demanded gcc 4.0 work ...
18:12 < mnemoc_> :D
18:12 < Postal> lol, i am only kidding lol i done actually NEED it lol
18:12 < rxr> an older linux kernel does not build with 4.0 .. ,-)
18:12 < rxr> 2.6.6 is in openbench right now ..
18:12 < rxr> too bad that I have to update it for massive 4.0 adaptions ...
18:12 < Postal> what about 2.4.x?
18:12 < rxr> 2.4 will compile even less ...
18:13 < rxr> but I saw 2.5.1x patches to make 4.0 happy ...
18:13 < Postal> i am going to get a geocities website to post my .err logs on
18:14 < Postal> well.. i dont knwo if it will help... but you could always look at the FC4 kernel patches and source.. they compile under 4
18:14 < rxr> no - I can fix those trivial mistakes noticed by gcc-4.0 myself ...
18:14 < Postal> :-) 
18:14 < rxr> just that I do not want to get an old 2.6.6 building ...
18:14 < rxr> Postal: where did you use 4.0 ?
18:14 < Postal> waht do you mean where?
18:15 < rxr> which distribution is using it 
18:15 < Postal> It comes with Fedora Core 4 test1
18:15 < rxr> they use gcc-4.0 for all =
18:15 < Postal> best i can gather...
18:15 < Postal> gcc --version
18:15 < Postal> gcc (GCC) 4.0.0 20050308 (Red Hat 4.0.0-0.32)
18:15 < Postal> Copyright (C) 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
18:15 < Postal> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
18:15 < Postal> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
18:16 < Postal> and i have installed no updates...
18:16 < rxr> interesting ..
18:16 < rxr> and you complain it is instable ?
18:17 < Postal> no
18:17 < Postal> It works like a dream lol
18:17 < Postal> before i reinstalled to change my partition scheme.. i had the following
18:18 < Postal> FC4 w\ Gcc4 gnome 2.10 nvidia driver w\ transset and xcompmngr, and transparent windows in realtime.. with almost no noticable slowdow.. gdesklets.. and audacity
18:18 < Postal> :-)
18:18 < mipe> hmm thunderbird and mozilla source are not available
18:19 < rxr> not on the mirror
18:19 < rxr> but I got it from the orig. size
18:19 < rxr> site
18:19 < mipe> didnt get from orig. site
18:19 < mnemoc_> they are on my mirrors :)
18:20 < mnemoc_> but they are a bit far away from you
18:20 < mipe> btw. how offen mirrors are populated?
18:21 < mnemoc_> mine every two hours
18:25 < Postal> what should my website be somethingsomethingsomething.com...
18:26 < mnemoc_> something available via http
18:26 < mnemoc_> reachable*
18:26 < Postal> it is,,, www.blahblahblah.com
18:26 < Postal> do you not like www.'s?
18:27 < mnemoc_> that's up to you
18:27 < mnemoc_> you can also use a paste service
18:28 < Postal> well.. ive been toying with the idea of creating a website for a while now.. this jsut gives me a good excuse...
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18:29 < rxr> hm - nothing in Botan got vectorized ...
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18:33 < Postal> hmm
18:35 < Postal> I wonder do you think 250MB of disk space will be enough for a fun basic website?
18:35 < Postal> it dosent seem like a lot..
18:37 < Postal> hehe shoping for web hosting is fun lol
18:40 < rxr> hm - the 4.0 vectorizer seems to have problems with C++ code ..
18:41 < rxr> in tramp3d no loop was vectorized either ... ,-(
18:41 -!- jeru [~jeru@p54BFBB7B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2
18:41 < jeru> re hi
18:42 < Postal> grr i cannot think of a good domain name
18:42 < rxr> nogooddomainname.net ?
18:42 < jeru> :)
18:43 < rxr> or noidea.net ? *g*
18:43 < rxr> "mirfaelltnixein.de" ,-)
18:43 < Postal> it just seems like if i am going to pay for it.. i should be something i really like lol
18:43 < mnemoc_> Postal.us :)
18:43 < Postal> its a .com
18:43 < jeru> rxr: or perhaps noexamsnow.net ;) yeah I know that was bad
18:44 < Postal> lol
18:44 < rxr> jeru:  ?
18:44 < mnemoc_> postponed?
18:44 < Postal> www.PostLogs.com
18:44 < Postal> prehaps..
18:45 < Postal> idk i need a cup of tea and a think
18:47 < rxr> anyone like to propose good C++ code to incooperate into openbench ?
18:52 < Postal> what is openbench?
18:52 < mnemoc_> :D
18:53 < Postal> Is there a dreamweaver equivilent for Linux?
18:53 < mnemoc_> nvu
18:54 < rxr> yeah - nvu package anyone ?
18:55 < mnemoc_> mozilla libs
18:56 < Postal> mnemoc_, this program looks nice
18:56 < mnemoc_> it is nice
18:57 < Postal> is it in the repo for t2..?
18:58 < rxr> not yet
18:58 < mnemoc_> nope
18:58 < rxr> mnemoc_: did you try it ?
18:58 < mnemoc_> nope :)
18:58 < mnemoc_> i have enough pain here already
19:01 < Postal> ok.. i am going to post these logs on geocities or something for now... cause id really like to build this t2
19:01 < mnemoc_> == 11:46:24 =[5]=> Building kde/kdelibs [3.4.0 2.1.0-rc1].
19:01 < mnemoc_> == 03/22/05 14:01:43 =[5]=> Finished building package kdelibs.
19:02 < mnemoc_> who was the bast* who touched that damn package?
19:03 < jeru> mnemoc: uhm ... what package?
19:03 < mnemoc_> kdelibs :)
19:03 < mnemoc_> 2:15 to rebuild it :)
19:04 < jeru> hehe :)
19:05  * mipe hides
19:05  * mipe runs
19:05 < rxr> hehe
19:06 < mnemoc_> hehe
19:06 < mipe> :D
19:07 < jeru> mipe ... chile is far away, but I guess mnemoc will get you :D
19:07 < mipe> :D
19:07 < mnemoc_> *G*
19:08 < Postal> I am quite excited about having my own .com lol
19:09 < rxr>  
19:09 < rxr>   CVS 1.11.19 
19:09 < rxr> OpenOffice.org 1.9.87 (Development)
19:09 < mnemoc_> CVS site is discusting
19:09 < mnemoc_> i'm trying to make m86 build :\
19:12 < Postal> rxr, i wonder if the problem lies in the fact that im using gcc 4 until stage zero is complete...?
19:14 < rxr> hm - maybe not gcc but s.th. else on that system ..
19:14 < rxr> Postal: why not isntall the image from mipe ... ?
19:14 < Postal> good idea... i happen to have it on cd right here
19:15 < Postal> i guess it just seems like cheating lol
19:15 < mipe> http://212.66.194.40/regressions/full/regressions.html
19:15 < mipe> have to take a closer look on errors at easter break which starts tomorrow
19:16 < Postal> OH YEAY.. im on break also...
19:16 < rxr> mipe: btw. do you have already running X on your amd64 ?
19:16 < jeru> btw: is there a way to specify different download mirrors for a single package?
19:16 < rxr> (with T2 of course ...)
19:16 < Postal> but im not a nifty as mipe is lol
19:16 < rxr> mipe: working on it the whole day ?
19:16 < rxr> jeru: yes
19:16 < rxr> jeru: download translations ,-)
19:16 < mipe> rxr:not tested X,they build fine(x,gnome,kde)
19:16 < jeru> rxr: thank you ;)
19:16 < rxr> global in misc/share and in download/DownloadTranslations or so ..
19:17 < jeru> rxr: I think I will find it :)
19:17 < rxr> mipe: are you running your new T2 the whole day? or are you working in s.th. elese ?
19:17 < rxr> mnemoc_: who does nvu ?
19:17  * rxr or you ?
19:17 < mnemoc_> rxr :)
19:18 < rxr> I ?
19:18 < rxr> did you ever bulid it ?
19:18 < mnemoc_> i don't have the stomach to play with mozilla dependent packages
19:18 < mipe> rxr: ?
19:18  * mipe is confused
19:18 < mipe> might be because of massive headache
19:18 < rxr> mipe: why?
19:18 < mnemoc_> mipe: do you want to try and package nvu?
19:19 < mipe> mnemoc_: not now,maybe tomorrow. going bed soonish. after finished my ui presentation
19:19 < rxr> I'm packaging it right nwo ..
19:20 < mipe> will dedicated my easter break on T2 and some physics...
19:20 < mnemoc_> good :)
19:21 < mnemoc_> rxr: blind packaging?
19:21 < mnemoc_> rxr: if you can take a look into gnome-media you would make me happy
19:22 < Postal> rxr, i have come to a conclusion...
19:22 < Postal> GCC 4.0 is great... unless you need to compile something on it...
19:23 < Postal> ;-)
19:23 < mipe> :)
19:23 < rxr> *lol*
19:23 < mnemoc_> *LOL*
19:23 < Postal> RH seem to be pretty good at making it work though
19:23 < mnemoc_> rxr: take that for your article :p
19:23 < rxr> gcc-4.0 _will_ be great - once it has been released and got the first minor update ...
19:23 < Postal> this is true i hope
19:23 < Postal> rxr, what are its benifits over 3.4?
19:24 < Postal> mipe, any technical notes on this build package?
19:24 < rxr> Postal: I posted that above ...
19:24 < rxr> mostly internal changes to yield better code (tree-ssa) and auto vectorization of loops ...
19:25 < rxr> and all the work around that ...
19:25 < mipe> Postal: if you want to use the system.tar.bz2 i uploaded <insert location here>, remember to rebuild kernel it only contains modules for it
19:26 < Postal> ok, can i chroot in and use the t2 build system to build hte kenel?
19:26 < Postal> or do i need to build it by hand?
19:26 < Postal> cd ..
19:26 < Postal> opps
19:26 < mipe> Postal:t2 build system should work.
19:26 < Postal> ok
19:27 < Postal> ok im in
19:27 < Postal> chrooted
19:27 < Postal> that was easy
19:27 < mnemoc_> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/T2/regressions.html <--- something seems to be wrong on my package counting
19:28 < mnemoc_> i have to go to a damn 25 minutes meeting on university... see you in 6 hours :|
19:28 < Postal> ok... i have never actually used t2 before... how do i ask it to build a pkg?
19:28 < rxr> I'm a bit scared that sometimes my not benchmarked cache warmup preround is faster than the previous runs that get timed  with hot cache ...
19:28 < rxr>   Running (cache warmup) ... 92.36 + 0.62
19:28 < rxr>   Running ... 92.56 + 0.61
19:28 < rxr>   Running ... 92.73 + 0.58
19:28 < rxr>   Running ... 92.70 + 0.59
19:29 < keinek> mnemoc_, what windows manager use?
19:29 < mnemoc_> xfce
19:29 < mnemoc_> cu
19:29 < mipe> Postal: ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg linux26,should work. provided that it contains t2-src,should be at /usr/src.
19:30 < mipe> but me to bed... early morning :(
19:30 < rxr> cu mipe 
19:30 < mipe> cu rxr
19:30 < jeru> cu mipe
19:31 < mipe> cu jeru
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19:31 < keinek> ok 
19:31 < keinek> i will try XFCE
19:31 < keinek> :P
19:34 < Postal> internet does not seem to work in the chroot enviroment..
19:34 < keinek> Mmmmm the colors in the windows manager is not correct
19:34 < rxr> # ./scripts/Build-Pkg nvu
19:34 < rxr> Postal: that is only due to name solving
19:34 < Postal> ...?
19:34 < rxr> copy /etc/resolv.conf into .../etc of your sandbox ..
19:34 < rxr> otherwise the sandbox stuff will not know what nameserver to use ...
19:35 < Postal> tried that lol.. it woudl not let me said invalid cross-device link
19:35 < rxr> so - soon I'll know if my nvu cut'n paste will build ,-)
19:35 < _Ragnar_> re
19:35 < rxr> do not link - but _cp_
19:35  * rxr away shopping for food
19:35 < Postal> ah
19:35 < rxr> guess package 1488 soon ,-)
19:41 < keinek> :(
19:41 < keinek> with the nvidia drivers i dont have the 24 depht color
19:41 < keinek> only 8
19:43 < Postal> rxr, is sourceing the /etc/profile important after i chroot in?
19:45 < Postal> ok so i dl the svn tree so that i could run the ./scripts... but now i have to create a profile... does it matter what i select here?
19:46 < Postal> i am having big prolems with mipes stage
19:50 < CIA-9> chris * r7659 /trunk/package/security/opencdk/ (. opencdk.desc): * added opencdk package (0.5.5)
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20:16 < CIA-9> chris * r7660 /trunk/package/develop/libtasn1/ (. libtasn1.desc): * added libtasn1 package (0.2.13)
20:36 < rxr> hui - we get to 1500 quite soon ...
20:36 < jeru> :)
20:37 < jeru> rxr: party on
20:39 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/big.png <- already reason enough to party ...
20:40 < jeru> :D 
20:40 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/57824 <- "Softwarepatente: Neue Zweifel an der G? 1/4 ltigkeit des Ratsbeschlusses"
20:41 < jeru> haha ... the never ending story 
20:41 < CIA-9> chris * r7661 /trunk/package/security/gnutls/ (. gnutls.desc): * added gnutls package (1.2.0)
20:43 < CIA-9> rene * r7662 /trunk/package/www/nvu/ (. nvu.cache nvu.conf nvu.desc): * added (0.90)
20:43 < rxr> ^- still building ...
20:49 < rxr> hm - damn didn't I post some mpg or so file split or so tool here ...
20:49 < rxr> can't find the link again ..
20:49 < jeru> rxr: can I move package/network/zope -> package/zope and placing all Zope Products (modules) also there?
20:50 < rxr> how many are that ?
20:50 < jeru> there will be a lot modules and I don't want to "blow up" the package/network dir
20:50 < rxr> where "a lot" is >= 10 or so ?
20:51 < jeru> it will be >10
20:51 < rxr> sure - then do so ,-)
20:51 < jeru> ack ,)
20:51 < rxr> # l */*/*.desc | wc -l
20:51 < rxr> 1494
20:51 < jeru> hehe .)
20:51 < rxr> hm - maybe I did not do the count on an updated tree ?
20:52 < rxr> might have been a 1 1/2 day behind tree on my iBook ..
20:53 < jeru> # ls ./package/*/*/*.desc | wc -l
20:53 < jeru> 1500
20:53 < jeru> haha
20:53 < jeru> but have to commit the rest ;)
20:53 < rxr> 1494 is HEAD ...
20:54 < jeru> yep there are some pending ones in my working copy
20:55 < CIA-9> chris * r7663 /trunk/package/security/opencdk/opencdk.desc: * just fixing [U] flag
20:57 < CIA-9> chris * r7664 /trunk/package/develop/libtasn1/libtasn1.desc: * just fixing [U] and [C] flag
20:58 < rxr> btw - you check in new files with T2 copyright applied ?
20:58 < jeru> sorry ... which one?
21:00 < rxr> ./scripts/Create-CopyPatch ...
21:01 < rxr> I have not taken a look - it just came to my mind ...
21:06 < keinek> ok guys... i can play atari games in my t2 :P
21:06 < jeru> :D
21:07 < keinek> if your learning me, i can mainten the emus
21:07 < keinek> xmame
21:07 < keinek> stella
21:07 < keinek> first i wanna learn how add sources to emerge
21:08 < keinek> yeah! back to the 80'
21:17 < rxr> ,-)
21:18 < CIA-9> chris * r7665 /trunk/package/python/python-ldap/ (python-ldap.conf python-ldap.desc): * just adding T2 copyright
21:18 < CIA-9> chris * r7666 /trunk/package/network/ (6 files in 2 dirs): * just adding T2 copyright
21:20 < CIA-9> chris * r7667 /trunk/package/develop/libtasn1/libtasn1.desc: * just adding T2 copyright
21:20 < CIA-9> chris * r7668 /trunk/package/security/gnutls/gnutls.desc: * just adding T2 copyright
21:21 < CIA-9> chris * r7669 /trunk/package/security/opencdk/opencdk.desc: * just adding T2 copyright
21:38 < rxr> 1495
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21:57 < CIA-9> rene * r7670 /trunk/package/security/botan/ (. botan.cache botan.conf botan.desc): * added library. (1.4.6)
21:59 < jeru> ^ hehe :)
21:59 < rxr> sorry for the commti text
21:59 < rxr> the Commit script is b0rkt
21:59 < rxr> I only noticed after y<return>
22:00 < rxr> my iBook was too fast for C-c ...
22:30 < CIA-9> rene * r7671 /trunk/package/www/nvu/nvu.conf: * fixed nvu path hardcoding (was firefox relict)
22:53 < jeru> rxr: is there a way for disabling automatic prefix insertion in makeopt ?
22:53 < rxr> oehm ...
22:53 < rxr> var_remove_regex ,-) ?
22:54 < rxr> awk is getting on my nerves ...
22:54 < jeru> :)
22:55 < rxr> nope :-(
23:09 < rxr> somehow the FS handling is broken ...
23:34 < jeru> have to go sleep now ... cu
23:34 < rxr> cu jeru 
23:34 < CIA-9> rene * r7672 /trunk/misc/archive/Commit.sh: 
23:34 < CIA-9> * fixed archive/Commit.sh regex and added a grep -v filter to strip
23:34 < CIA-9>  svn diff ===* lines since they confuse awk ... (why?)
23:38 < rxr> libieee1284 0.2.10 (Stable)
23:40 < CIA-9> rene * r7673 /trunk/package/x11/afterstep/afterstep.desc: * updated afterstep (2.00.03 -> 2.00.04)
23:40 < CIA-9> rene * r7674 /trunk/package/develop/oprofile/oprofile.desc: * updated oprofile (0.8.1 -> 0.8.2)
23:40 < rxr> n8 all
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