--- Log opened Sun Mar 06 00:00:36 2005 00:05 < mnemoc> how hard can be to configure apt to work for us? 00:07 < rxr> no idea 00:07 < rxr> but I think I do not want apt ... 00:07 < mnemoc> what do you want? 00:07 < rxr> a way more lightweight tiny thing .. 00:08 < rxr> but of course you are free to try out apt ... 00:08 < valentin> re 00:08 < rxr> I will not stop you ... 00:08 < rxr> hi valentin 00:08 < rxr> how comes you are around on #t2 so often these days ... ;-) 00:08 < valentin> michael schumacher returned into his box wo qualifying 00:09 < rxr> hm ? 00:09 < valentin> rxr: i'm here almost every day 00:09 < rxr> I mean talking ... 00:09 < valentin> only i do not talk that much 00:09 < mnemoc> rxr: not yet 00:09 < mnemoc> rxr: but we need something transparent and easy for lusers 00:10 < rxr> yep 00:10 < valentin> rxr: tetex 3.0 installed on your box 00:10 < valentin> ? 00:10 < rxr> my working target is named synchronicity ... 00:11 < rxr> ? ?? 00:11 < rxr> valentin: my hadraufinix ... ? 00:11 < rxr> ah - the ? belonged to the last line ... 00:11 < rxr> well - which box ? 00:11 < valentin> yep 00:11 < rxr> on the hadraufinix not yet ... 00:11 < rxr> but this is not a problem at all ... ,-) 00:12 < valentin> i just ask if you have the executable somewhere 00:12 < rxr> why do you ask ? 00:12 < rxr> on my Ibook I have it ... 00:12 < mnemoc> me too 00:12 < valentin> can you check if latex links to pdflatex ? 00:13 < rxr> # ldd /usr/bin/latex libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x0fefe000) libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x0fe6d000) libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x0fe41000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x0fd16000) /lib/ld.so.1 (0x30000000) 00:13 < valentin> links == ln -s ,) 00:13 < rxr> ah .. 00:13 < rxr> lars saied s.th. like that 00:13 < rxr> # l /usr/bin/latex 00:13 < rxr> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Feb 19 17:12 /usr/bin/latex -> pdfetex 00:13 < rxr> ack 00:13 < rxr> valentin: why do you ask ? 00:14 < valentin> can it still create .dvi then ? 00:14 < rxr> yep 00:14 < rxr> works as usual 00:14 < rxr> only some corner cases changed ... 00:14 < rxr> lars knows some details ... 00:15 < valentin> well, there were rumors about "This binray only creates .pdf files instead of .dvi files - even when I'm 00:15 < valentin> passing the -output-format=dvi option." 00:15 < rxr> no 00:15 < rxr> latex file.tex creates .dvi on my iBook ... 00:15 < valentin> ok, then it is harmless to emerge it :) 00:16 < mnemoc> what do you use for tex? emacs? 00:16 < valentin> yes 00:16 < rxr> $ ls rechnung.* 00:16 < rxr> rechnung.aux rechnung.dvi rechnung.log rechnung.tex 00:16 < valentin> xemacs 00:16 < valentin> or xemacs-beta :) 00:16 < rxr> I had no problem with my usual stuff ... 00:16 < rxr> valentin: I kicked the xft patch from xemacs-beta in trunk 00:17 < rxr> all the latest version ahve been very instable 00:17 < rxr> for the last two there is no xft patch avail 00:17 < valentin> :( 00:17 < rxr> and this xemacs mainrainer started his own xft version (because the other long maintained patch sucks) which does work even less ... 00:17 < rxr> so xemacs-beta is now the pure 21.5 without xft patch ... 00:18 < valentin> then i have to continue working with xemacs -nw 00:18 < rxr> I mailed the xft patch author (the xft patch that used to work) if he still works on it ... but we have to day 00:18 < rxr> I consider dropping xemacs ... 00:18 < rxr> maybe I'll start my own one this years ... 00:24 < valentin> looks like MSC will start from the last row today 00:24 < rxr> package/gnome2# grep DEP xchat/xchat.cache nautilus/nautilus.cache metacity/metacity.cache gdm/gdm.cache gnomemeeting/gnomemeeting.cache totem/totem.cache gdesklets/gdesklets.cache libgnomeprintui/libgnomeprintui.cache gnome-panel/gnome-panel.cache | sed 's,/.*\[DEP\] , ,' | tr ' ' '\n' | sort -u | while read in ; do [ -d $in ] && echo $in ; done | wc -l 00:24 < rxr> that gives 43 packages ... 00:25 < mnemoc> :) 00:25 < rxr> I think I'll inject those instead of the 165 selected in desktop right now ... 00:25 < rxr> poor mans deps .. 00:25 < rxr> valentin: what does the dep resolver core for t2 do *g* 00:25 < rxr> just joking - can wait a bit ... 00:25 < mnemoc> rxr: take a look into mnemosyne's minimalistic gnome selection too 00:27 < valentin> rxr: we need to specify what is the toolchain and then we go ... 00:27 < rxr> we need to sell avision-osx ... ,-) 00:27 < mnemoc> :) 00:28 < valentin> rxr: we have some trouble with the i18n - this could be once again a "works in this program, but not in that" thing 00:28 < rxr> f*ck 00:28 < rxr> some manual set bundle base s.th. tweak ... 00:29 < valentin> you do not know how to get the resource bundle (except messing with the exact path) ? 00:29 < rxr> have not messed with that stuff right now ... 00:29 < valentin> i'll find out 00:29 < rxr> ... | wc -l 00:29 < rxr> 45 00:30 < rxr> -beta4 desktop will be far smaller *g* 00:30 < rxr> and I will be in the bed in some seconds ... 00:30 < valentin> rxr: as a hotfix we could hardcode the path to the DS bundle 00:30 < rxr> yeah - ack - fine with me ... 00:31 < CIA-2> rene * r7086 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * removed gnome14 - we select the compat stuff explicitly below 00:32 < mnemoc> why do you want gnome14? 00:32 < mnemoc> xmss? 00:32 < mnemoc> xmms* 00:32 < rxr> yep .. 00:32 < rxr> only the bare minimum glibc gtk+ and friends .. 00:32 < rxr> but _I_ want noting from that ... 00:33 < jeru_> good n8 rxr ... have to sleep too ... good night folks 00:33 < mnemoc> gn8 jeru_ 00:33 < rxr> n8 jeru_ 00:33 < jeru_> :D 00:33 -!- jeru_ [~jeru@p54BFDE5C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.11"] 00:51 -!- asongwe1 [~admin@192.116.128.39] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 00:56 < rxr> ouhm 00:58 < rxr> I think I start migrating desktop to a more dynamic s 00:58 < rxr> election now ... 00:58 < rxr> that is do the grep in cache on the fly ... 01:00 < valentin> on the fly ? 01:00 < rxr> I just commit 01:00 < rxr> grep as above ... 01:01 < rxr> Committed revision 7087. 01:01 < CIA-2> rene * r7087 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: 01:01 < CIA-2> * filtered desktop target's gnome pages on the fly doing a quick 01:01 < CIA-2> look into the cached deps ... 01:02 < rxr> so - down from nearly 9xx packages to 613 active packages 01:03 < rxr> 972 active on my iBook with the old desktop selection ... 01:03 < rxr> valentin: do we want to ship abiword and gnumeric in the default ExactDesktopCD ? 01:04 < valentin> kerstin used to use abiword sometimes 01:04 < valentin> i do not need any of them 01:04 < valentin> but i guess many ppl will use gnumeric 01:05 < rxr> so I fear I have to add this bloat ... 01:05 < rxr> valentin: have you looked into the diff ? 01:05 < valentin> i did not say that 01:05 < valentin> which diff ? 01:05 < valentin> r 7087 ? 01:06 < rxr> yep 01:06 < rxr> 625 active with gnuermic and abiword ... 01:07 < CIA-2> rene * r7088 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * readded gnumeric and abiword - some user might demand it ... 01:07 < rxr> gcc-4.0-20050305 is now available 01:09 < rxr> 700 builds total, 241 completed fine, 1 with errors. 01:09 < rxr> so bed .. 01:09 < rxr> cu all 01:13 < valentin> cu 01:14 < rxr> valentin: if you have some seocnds and nothing to do you could svn up and take a look at the 6xx selected packages for a desktop build and do some notes what you thing could be left away for normal workstations base installations ... 01:14 < rxr> but only if you feel to ... 01:14 < rxr> sleep well 01:20 < valentin> ok 01:27 < valentin> well, you put gnuplot back :) 01:41 < valentin> a quick grep after my 20 most used non-basic applications looks fine 01:43 < valentin> hm, my dsl line was dead for 30 seconds 01:43 < valentin> but there was no reconnect 01:44 < valentin> and i have a lag like hell 01:45 < valentin> but there is no traffic on the line 01:45 < valentin> so, need some sleep now 01:45 < valentin> gn8 01:46 < valentin> rxr: the 'on the fly thing' is evaluated multiple times when navigating in scrips/Config 01:47 < valentin> rxr: oh - i missread the 'left away' - i was looking for missing packages *g* 01:49 < valentin> well - do we need all the shells ? 01:50 < valentin> ok, i do not want to start another flamewar ,) 01:53 < valentin> do we need unshield ? 01:53 < valentin> s/do we/who/ 02:00 < valentin> or what about esoteric window managers ? like ctwm ? anyone ? flames ? 02:04 < valentin> and why do we need amule _and_ xmule ? 02:04 < valentin> ok, same could be said about plotting tools (but i often need the old gnuplot) 02:08 < valentin> ouhm - i took the wrong packae list 02:09 < valentin> but the things above can be outsorted, if they are in the diet list 02:09 * valentin needs some sleep 02:09 < valentin> cu later 02:31 -!- ideal [~idealm_@211.100.227.107] has joined #t2 02:53 < mnemoc> re 03:33 -!- rxr_ [~rene@p213.54.199.158.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 03:33 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta3 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Enviroments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | CIA, don't ever leave us again! 03:33 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Feb 19 18:03:55 2005] 03:33 [Users #t2] 03:33 [ _Ragnar__] [ daja77] [ jsaw_ ] [ mtr_] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 03:33 [ CIA-2 ] [ ideal ] [ mnemoc] [ nzg ] [ rxr_] 03:33 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 11 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal] 03:33 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 03:33 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 15 secs 03:41 -!- rxr [~rene@p213.54.197.89.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:51 -!- ideal [~idealm_@211.100.227.107] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 03:58 < CIA-2> amery * r7089 /trunk/package/xfce4/ (27 files in 25 dirs): * renamed generic xfce-4.conf to the standard xfce4-conf.in form 03:59 < CIA-2> amery * r7090 /trunk/package/xfce4/ (25 files in 25 dirs): * changed xfce4 generic config call to be standard 04:06 < CIA-2> amery * r7091 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CIA-2> amery * r7114 /trunk/package/x11/fox/fox.conf: * removed abandoned set -x on fox config 07:30 < CIA-2> amery * r7115 /trunk/package/x11/ctwm/ctwm.conf: * improved ctwm using hooks 08:02 < CIA-2> amery * r7116 /trunk/package/gnome14/ (56 files in 27 dirs): 08:02 < CIA-2> * renamed global gnome-14 config file to gnome-14-conf.in 08:02 < CIA-2> * changed gnome14/* packages to source it on [O] 08:05 < CIA-2> amery * r7117 /trunk/package/ (16 files in 8 dirs): * adapted gnome-14 packages which don't live on gnome14/ to use the new common gnome-14 config file (gimp-print, sylpheed, gpa, beaver, gcombust, gentoo, imlib and cinepaint) 08:50 -!- mtr [~michael@Hbf9a.h.pppool.de] has joined #t2 09:09 -!- mtr_ [~michael@Hb53a.h.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:44 < mipe> hmm,my automake is missing config.guess :( 09:49 -!- jeru [~jeru@p54BFE73C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 09:49 < jeru> moin 10:32 -!- You're now known as rxr 10:32 < rxr> moin 10:32 < jeru> moin rxr 10:38 < mipe> hi jeru,rxr 10:38 < jeru> hi mipe ... how about your eyes :) ? 10:39 < mipe> :),not that bad anymore 10:39 < rxr> ouhm - was is with your eyes ? 10:40 < mipe> i got a sun tan lines around my eyes while i was fishing,i got sun tan lines because wearing sun glasses 10:40 < rxr> ah - so no sight problem - puh ... 10:41 < mipe> yep, but it was funny look... 10:43 < jeru> mipe: hope you "catched" at least some fishes :) 10:43 < mipe> jeru:few but very small ones... 10:44 < jeru> ahh ... I think you did ice fishing 10:44 < mipe> yep 10:45 < mipe> its fun,good change to normal day routines. spending entire day at outdoors 10:45 -!- jeru [~jeru@p54BFE73C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.11"] 10:46 -!- jeru [~jeru@p54BFE73C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 10:46 < jeru> client crashed :( 10:47 < rxr> ooops 10:47 < jeru> mipe: go fishing is really nice ... but I don't go anymore ... at least not in germany, because you can't really eat the fishes 10:48 < rxr> jeru: not ? 10:48 < jeru> not really 10:49 < mipe> why not? 10:49 < jeru> but ... if I visit my uncle in sweden, I go fishing every day 10:49 < jeru> because the enviromental pollution 10:50 < jeru> the fish isn't very tasty 10:51 < mipe> last summer i caught a fish that had worm with 2 times the length of the fish. a parasite(?) or so. didnt eat that fish but was fun catching it 10:53 < jeru> yeah that was a wise decission ... but a parasite is something natural ;) ... 10:57 < CIA-2> rene * r7118 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * added needed and not detected thru dependencies libgomecups 10:59 < CIA-2> rene * r7119 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * removed howtos from the desktop target - another 30MB saving 11:05 < rxr> "According to the German IT news site Heise, german Telekom and the german railway corporation Deutsche Bahn have formed an alliance to equip the ICE high speed trains with WLAN access (Babelfish translation), as well as the stations those trains arrive at. This offer is aimed at business travellers, and will first be introduced on routes frequented by those ("travel time is usable time")." 11:05 < rxr> 701 builds total, 469 completed fine, 1 with errors. 11:05 < rxr> [5] base/linux26 11:05 < jeru> :D 11:05 < rxr> ^- and that is already fixed and just not yet rebuild to track other lnux-header update regressions sooner 11:06 < mipe> 273 builds total, 197 completed fine, 0 with errors. 11:06 < mipe> doing minimal desktop for amd64 11:06 < mipe> well actually syne target 11:09 < jeru> yeah ... one of the pros of syne is, that it will build quite fast ... but as we see rxr is allready shrinking desktop :) 11:09 < jeru> hehe 11:12 < rxr> decoder for Apple Lossless Audio Codec files (ALAC) 11:12 < rxr> http://craz.net/programs/itunes/alac.html 11:12 < rxr> so - showering breakfast ... 11:18 < mipe> rxr:when www2 is in "production" will you enable drupals rss feeds? 11:29 < rxr> sure - I could alrady do now (after breakfast) 11:32 < rxr> so - now I'm @ some regression to be fixed *g* 11:32 < rxr> but breakfast first ... 11:32 < jeru> good apetite 11:55 < rxr> 702 builds total, 474 completed fine, 12:06 < jeru> rxr: so desktop target builds quite fine :) 12:06 < rxr> well - soon I have to deal with a lot of depenceny regressions I fear ... 12:06 < rxr> especially since I just disabled quite a lot perl-* ones ... 12:07 < rxr> 596 active packages 12:07 < jeru> ah ok 12:07 < rxr> down from 63x last night 12:07 < rxr> but at least I have a l33t workstation target thereafter 12:09 < jeru> bdb doesn' t build anymore on my system :/ 12:09 < CIA-2> rene * r7120 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: 12:09 < CIA-2> * more desktop package fine tuning - some adds (libid3tag, ...) many 12:09 < CIA-2> removes (perl-*, gok, ...) 12:15 < mipe> http://koti.japo.fi/~pmika/bdb_upgrade.patch 12:15 < rxr> why do you want to update it ? 12:15 < mipe> old one doesnt compile on amd64 12:15 < rxr> oh 12:15 < rxr> and why not ? 12:15 < mipe> and i rather upgrade it than patch it 12:16 < rxr> as far as it was in the past the even numbered are development trees - not to be meant for production use ... 12:16 < rxr> I would rather like to keep the 4.2 12:16 < jeru> rxr: yeah ... if you remember we had that topic some times ago ... I used 4.3 version without any problems 12:16 < rxr> any advantages ? 12:17 < jeru> btw. it's considerd as stable version 12:17 < rxr> hm 12:18 < jeru> perhaps we should think about it for the release ... what do you think 12:18 < rxr> since we want to update gnome to 2.10, too ... 12:19 < jeru> ... so you're not quite sure .. 12:19 < jeru> but packages like openldap will benefit 12:22 < jeru> should I test it to build a desktop target with bdb43? 12:23 < rxr> that would be nice - but wait until it builds with zero errors on my side 12:24 < jeru> ok ... you mean the desktop target 12:25 < rxr> you wrote desktop target first ... 12:26 < CIA-2> rene * r7121 /trunk/package/graphic/ploticus/compile.patch: * fixed ploticus for my current desktop build (strchr became a macro ?) 12:26 < rxr> you can test with whatever halfy big target you want ... *g* 12:26 < rxr> 671 builds total, 453 completed fine 12:29 < CIA-2> rene * r7122 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * added the hicolor gnome base theme to the desktop target 12:29 < rxr> 597 active packages 12:29 * rxr lunch 12:55 < jeru> after rebuilding bdb deps it builds again fine ... but anyway I'll test bdb 4.3 13:07 < CIA-2> rene * r7123 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * removed busybox for the desktop target and removed 2nd gok entry 13:12 < CIA-2> rene * r7124 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * removed stay shells added arm repository to the desktop target 13:15 < CIA-2> rene * r7125 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * comment cleanups and added gnuplot to the desktop target 13:18 < rxr> hm - .11 scheduling seems to have quite some regressions ... 13:19 < rxr> with excessive scrolling in xterms - that is the X process running a lot and high disk load the gui becomes where sluggish - this was not the case with .10 .. 13:24 < rxr> has someone a t2 with firefox installed handy ? 13:28 < jeru> yep 13:29 < rxr> does search work in it ? 13:30 < jeru> nope 13:30 < rxr> Strg-C ... 13:30 < rxr> ok - I have an idea what do modify .. 13:31 < rxr> jeru: do you use firefox? 13:31 < jeru> sometimes 13:32 < jeru> why 13:32 < rxr> that you did not complain about anunfunctional search .. 13:32 < rxr> ,-) 13:32 < jeru> :) as you see I don't use it often ... but mea culpa 13:34 < rxr> ok - just wondered that noone screamed .. 13:35 < jeru> rxr: what's is your fastest method replacing glibc :/ 13:35 < jeru> mean new version 13:35 < rxr> when it is not a vital system I usually just Emerge it ... 13:35 < rxr> if it is a prebuild it on another system and make sure mine.static is available ... *g* 13:35 < jeru> and if it is a vital system? 13:36 < jeru> ok 13:36 < rxr> so /me a bit away ... 13:36 < jeru> byebye 13:54 < mipe> uhm superkaramba should work? 13:54 < mipe> build i mean 13:55 < mipe> no rule to make target karamba.moc 15:04 < mipe> http://koti.japo.fi/~pmika/kdemultimedia.patch 15:04 < mipe> http://koti.japo.fi/~pmika/directfb.patch 15:05 < mipe> those will fix package builds on x86-64 15:05 < mipe> few data type fixes 16:01 < rxr> 13:25 < rxr> I built firefox from source - all works well - only the search is not working - any idea? 16:01 < rxr> 14:17 < FaeLLe> install the binary :p 16:01 < rxr> lol 16:03 < CIA-2> rene * r7126 /trunk/package/www/firefox/firefox.conf: 16:03 < CIA-2> * disabled the typeaheadfind for firefox (does not work and renders 16:03 < CIA-2> the search unfunctional) and did some more cleanup along the lines) 16:05 < rxr> oh my god: 16:05 < rxr> >> What should I set in host.def for an athlon64 build? The stuff I put 16:05 < rxr> >> into it for my laptop is 16:05 < rxr> >> 16:05 < rxr> >> #define DefaultGcc2i386Opt -O3 -march=pentium3 -msse2 -mmmx -msse 16:05 < rxr> >> -mfpmath=sse,387 -maccumulate-outgoing-args -mno-align-stringops 16:05 < rxr> >> -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math -funroll-all-loops -fsched-spec-load 16:05 < rxr> >> -fprefetch-loop-arrays -ftracer -fmove-all-movables --param 16:05 < rxr> >> max-gcse-passes=4 16:05 < rxr> > 16:05 < rxr> > 16:05 < rxr> > 16:05 < rxr> > It's spelled "DefaultGcc2AMD64Opt" on amd64. 16:05 < rxr> > 16:05 < rxr> > In general if your CFLAGS take more than one 80 column line to display, you're asking for trouble. 16:05 < rxr> In Gentoo - bigger == better. ;] 16:36 < CIA-2> rene * r7127 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * added scons and distcc to the desktop target 16:38 < rxr> mnemoc: 16:38 < rxr> mnemoc: Binc IMAP 1.2.12final (Stable) 16:39 < rxr> "Novell and OSNews are sponsoring the memory reduction project led by Novell's Ben Mauer by providing bounties to developers to help to clean up bloat in GNOME and related programs." 17:00 -!- Postal [~Postal@ool-4356292a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #t2 17:01 < Postal> hey all 17:01 < rxr> hey Postal ! 17:01 < Postal> Sorry been real busy latley 17:01 < Postal> but here i am 17:01 < jeru> hi postal 17:01 < Postal> been having a bit of a problem with the config script.. 17:01 < Postal> hi jeru 17:01 [Users #t2] 17:01 [ _Ragnar_] [ daja77] [ jsaw_] [ mnemoc] [ nzg ] [ rxr ] 17:01 [ CIA-2 ] [ jeru ] [ mipe ] [ mtr ] [ Postal] [ valentin] 17:01 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal] 17:02 < jeru> what type of problem do you have? 17:03 < Postal> mv: cannot stat `src/rockdialog.bin.6004': No such file or directory 17:03 < Postal> Creating configuration script. 17:03 < Postal> T2 2.1.0-rc1 configuration ... 17:03 < Postal> unknown returncode: 127 17:03 < rxr> outsch 17:03 < Postal> there is ALOT more output... 17:03 < rxr> never saw this ... 17:03 < rxr> rm -rf src 17:03 < rxr> and try again ... 17:03 < Postal> same error.. 17:03 < Postal> and i just svn up not 10 min ago 17:03 < rxr> hm - can you post the wohle output somewher? 17:04 < Postal> yeah, but i have to pipe it to a file 17:04 < Postal> does it have a log somewhere? 17:04 < rxr> is it more than a cut'n paste screen = 17:04 < rxr> ? even 17:05 < Postal> yeah... my terminal does not show it all... but all of the errors are undeclared errors.. 17:06 < rxr> you can add 2>&1 > log 17:06 < Postal> ie misc/rockdialog/yesno.c:101: error: `KEY_RIGHT' undeclared (first use in this function) 17:06 < rxr> to get it into a file 17:06 < Postal> i know 17:06 < rxr> what base system is that ? 17:06 < Postal> suse 9.1 17:06 < rxr> no ncurses-devel package installed ? 17:06 < Postal> hmmm not sure 17:07 < rxr> KEY_RIGHT is ncurses 17:07 < Postal> well lets check 17:07 < Postal> no no ncurses-devel installed, but it is now 17:08 < Postal> ;-) now it works 17:08 < rxr> good ,-) 17:08 < rxr> Postal: x86-64 got a lot of changes the last days ... 17:08 < rxr> I hope it builds for you ... 17:08 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/ChangeLog-t2 17:08 < Postal> will gcc build, or will it still not find crti.o? 17:09 < rxr> we'll see 17:09 < Postal> im going to do a minimal-desktop 17:09 < rxr> IIRC in gcc are still a few things to be merged from mipe's x86-64 work 17:10 < rxr> mipe: do you have some updated patch against t2-trunk:HEAD ? 17:10 < Postal> well well see in about 40 min 17:11 < Postal> have we gotten grub to build in 64 bit yet? 17:11 < rxr> yes - it should now 17:11 < rxr> glibc32 stuff works these days ,-) 17:11 < Postal> well, so its built in 32 bit and not 64..? 17:11 < rxr> only grub, yes 17:12 < rxr> as the grub authros wants it ... 17:12 < Postal> now default compiler will use lib64 unless -ia32 flag is passed correct? 17:12 < rxr> yes - we now use lib64 for all packages where possible ... 17:13 < Postal> what im asking is if i compile something by hand, do i have to pass an option to make sure it builds in 64 bit? 17:13 < rxr> but the option is -m32 - do not think there is a ia32 one ... 17:14 < rxr> nope - default is 64bit - and -m32 for 32bit output 17:14 < Postal> i thought that it was ia 32.. hmm what am i confusing it with..? 17:15 < rxr> ia32 is the name of the arch ... 17:15 < Postal> ah ok 17:15 < Postal> so im not totally losing my mind? 17:15 < rxr> yep - just did man gcc - no ia32 option - only -m32 as expected 17:15 < rxr> nope 17:15 < Postal> ok 17:17 < Postal> well, hopefully it will build without too many errors 17:17 < rxr> yes - hopefully ... 17:17 < Postal> and off we go 17:17 < Postal> hey is gnome 2.9 in the repository yet? 17:17 < mipe> re 17:18 < rxr> nope - but planned before -rc1 17:18 < rxr> that is to be packaged in the next week ... 17:18 < mipe> rxr:did you see the url for few patches? 17:19 < rxr> ouhm - no 17:19 < Postal> what about gcc 4.0... there are some good cvs snapshots out there :-D 17:20 < rxr> none does built a whole system right now ... 17:20 < rxr> and there are still linux kernel miscomilation reports ... 17:20 < Postal> ouch 17:20 < mipe> 16:04 < mipe> http://koti.japo.fi/~pmika/kdemultimedia.patch 17:20 < mipe> 16:05 < mipe> http://koti.japo.fi/~pmika/directfb.patch 17:20 < mipe> 16:05 < mipe> those will fix package builds on x86-64 17:20 < mipe> 16:05 < mipe> few data type fixes 17:20 < rxr> any major compiler release means big internal changes - and thus you do not want a whole system compiled with it that early ... 17:21 < mipe> 18:10 < rxr> mipe: do you have some updated patch against t2-trunk:HEAD ? 17:21 < rxr> however I start the week as soon as it is reasonable - guess in 2-3 weeks - but it will not be get in T2 2.1 - but the soon to be started 2.2 line 17:21 < mipe> uhm gcc patches are not in HEAD i think 17:21 < mipe> and glibc i think 17:22 < rxr> nope - but could you rediff your work so we get a diff relative to all the merging I did ... ? 17:22 < mipe> Error logs from system-2.1.0-rc1-x86-64-athlon64-mnemosyne-expert: 17:22 < mipe> [5] kde/superkaramba [5] multimedia/mplayer 17:22 < mipe> [5] network/smbc [5] develop/itcl 17:22 < mipe> 274 builds total, 270 completed fine, 4 with errors. 17:22 < mipe> rxr:yep will do 17:23 < mipe> theres still lot of work at x86-64,mainly the packages that doesnt use --libdir and installs 64bit to lib,and i'd really like them to be at lib64 17:24 < rxr> I can imagine 17:24 < rxr> you could just slowly work on it once the major stuff compiles all fine ... 17:24 < Postal> thats a good percentage though 17:24 < Postal> 270 out of 274 17:26 < CIA-2> rene * r7128 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * more diet-desktop selection fine tuning 17:31 < CIA-2> rene * r7129 /trunk/package/ (2 files in 2 dirs): 17:31 < CIA-2> Mika Pesu : 17:31 < CIA-2> * fixed directfb and kdemultimedia for x86-64 17:31 < rxr> mipe: you rm'ed the previous t2-diff ? 17:32 < mipe> rxr:yep,i'll make patch per package,easier to manage 17:32 < mipe> rxr:will be up in few mins 17:32 < rxr> oh - cool 17:33 < rxr> Error logs from system-2.1.0-rc1-x86-pentium-mmx-desktop: 17:33 < rxr> [5] e17/efsd 17:33 < rxr> [5] e17/evidence [5] kde/kde-i18n-de 17:33 < rxr> [5] kde/kde-i18n-it [5] kde/kde-i18n-es 17:33 < rxr> [5] kde/kde-i18n-fr [5] kde/superkaramba 17:33 < rxr> 680 builds total, 500 completed fine, 8 with errors. 17:33 < mipe> those kde-i18n-* are from unsermake? 17:33 < mipe> oh i get superkaramba failing too,no target for karamba.moc 17:35 < rxr> yeah - kde-i18n-* is unsermake 17:35 < mnemoc> moin! 17:36 < rxr> make: *** No rule to make target `karamba.moc'. Stop. 17:36 < rxr> mon mnemoc 17:37 < rxr> mipe: and with unsermake they fail due to errors in the xml files ... :-( 17:42 < mnemoc> patchable errors? 17:42 < rxr> they are so ugly - I did not looked into them that long ... 17:44 < mnemoc> does xml usually are a missisng / 17:44 < mnemoc> xml errors* 17:45 < mipe> http://koti.japo.fi/~pmika/ 17:45 < mipe> i'll check if any other patch is missing,but after shower 17:45 < jeru> ahh .. moin mnemoc 17:46 < mnemoc> hi jeru 17:46 < mnemoc> how is it going? 17:46 < CIA-2> rene * r7130 /trunk/package/kde/ (kdelibs/kdelibs.conf qt/qt.conf): 17:46 < CIA-2> * removed exporting a KDEDIR with a old version number attaced 17:46 < CIA-2> * fixed qt to not use such long version on the profile.d file 17:46 < jeru> building targets ... 17:46 < jeru> :) 17:46 < rxr> mipe: nice 17:46 < mnemoc> jeru: not installing? 17:46 < jeru> too 17:47 < jeru> have to update servers in cameroon 17:47 < jeru> and the connection is a little bit lame 17:48 < mnemoc> "servers in cameroon" sounds to me as exotic as "servers in chile" for you :) 17:48 < jeru> hmmm ... nope ... isn't so exotic 17:48 < jeru> :) 17:49 < jeru> but if i think what I'm replacing (fedora :/) it's quite exotic :D 17:50 < mnemoc> :) 17:51 < rxr> mnemoc: if you want your T2 firefox to be able to search - you could rebuilt it now .. 17:52 < mnemoc> i saw your patch 17:52 < mnemoc> but my firefox searches..... what did you meaned? 17:52 < mnemoc> well seaches sometimes 17:53 < Postal> mnemoc, meaned is not a word... mean is both present and past tense... 17:54 < mnemoc> thanks 17:54 < Postal> what do you mean, what did you mean 17:54 < Postal> ;-) 17:54 < Postal> I make up spanish words all the time :-D 17:54 < mnemoc> it's good to have a native speaker :) 17:55 < Postal> i just had a test on irregular pretirete tense verbs acutally :-/ 17:55 < rxr> mnemoc: here it never searched - enterng a text and pressing enter or clicking the search button did nothing at all 17:56 < mnemoc> i have to like some times on the frame first 17:56 < mnemoc> s/like/click/ 18:00 < Postal> rxr, does t2 mplayer support wma files by default? 18:00 < rxr> some I think 18:01 < rxr> depends on the codec ... 18:01 < rxr> some wma and wmv files do not play or not yet correctly .. 18:01 < Postal> well what codec are installed on default..? 18:01 < rxr> ouhm - I do not know the IDs of them off hand ... 18:01 < Postal> ic 18:01 < Postal> are they in the repository though? 18:01 < rxr> maybe on x86 some more works because of windows dll reuse possibilities .. 18:01 < rxr> sure - the normal open source ones in ffmpeg, mplayer and co ... 18:02 < rxr> and the windows ones in the w32codescs package ... 18:02 < Postal> is w32codecs in the repository? 18:02 < rxr> yes 18:03 < Postal> Do you thin i could build this minimal-desktop build in 24 hours? 18:03 < rxr> the minimal desktop or my normal desktop ? 18:03 < Postal> minimal-desktop template 18:03 < Postal> miminal w/ xorg 18:03 < Postal> + a desktop 18:03 < rxr> that could build in less than 24h - why do you ask ? 18:03 < Postal> lol 18:03 < Postal> just curious 18:04 < Postal> i would like to get into t2 and play with it :-) 18:04 < Postal> what is the default desktop that is built with that template? 18:05 < rxr> I think no environment at all - maybe blackbox or so ... 18:05 < Postal> i will build gnome.. this takes some time though.. IIRC 18:06 < rxr> yes - just Emerge-Pkg -repository gnome2 should work mostly ... 18:07 < Postal> it all depends on how well this builds lol 18:08 < Postal> does the kernel get built in another stage other than stage 1? 18:08 < CIA-2> rene * r7131 /trunk/package/kde/superkaramba/ (superkaramba.conf superkaramba.desc): * did some superkaramba hacking / fixing - but marked it O - unfixable 18:08 < rxr> Postal: yes 18:09 < mipe> svn: Failed to add file 'package/contrib/directfb/dfb_types.patch': object of the same name is already scheduled for addition 18:09 < mipe> :) 18:09 < mipe> how do i revert local add? 18:09 < mipe> i did svn add to get it into svn diff 18:09 < rxr> svn revert bla/blubs 18:10 < rxr> but if the file is already added why do you want to mess with it ? 18:11 < mipe> it was an svn add to include the file into svn diff,and svn up gave that error,after you added it into HEAD 18:11 < rxr> hm - oh 18:11 < rxr> damn - dump - svn ... 18:11 < rxr> svn revert should do ... 18:11 < mipe> yep that fixed it 18:12 < CIA-2> amery * r7132 /trunk/package/mail/bincimap12/bincimap12.desc: * updated bincimap12 (1.2.11final -> 1.2.12final) 18:13 < rxr> mipe: you like t2 and will stick longer to it ? 18:13 < mipe> rxr:ofcourse,i like this stuff. 18:13 < rxr> ok - I give you write acces ... 18:13 < mnemoc> :) 18:14 < rxr> mipe: could you mail me a htpasswd -n your-name password hass for server injection ? 18:14 < rxr> rene@exactcode.de 18:14 < mnemoc> hash* 18:14 < mipe> yep, but i'm new to svn,hopefully i dont mess things up :( 18:14 < rxr> hash - yes ,-) 18:15 < mnemoc> if you mess something we can revert it :) 18:15 < rxr> you should not be able to destrox the repository from your side ... 18:15 < rxr> mipe: in your font packages could use use [[ $libdir = *lib64 ]] ... so it works on powerpc64 and co, too? 18:16 < mipe> yep 18:17 < mnemoc> berlios is slow as hell today 18:17 < jeru> what do you do with berlios ? 18:18 < jeru> i mean on 18:18 < mnemoc> trying to get the name on the new maintainer of noteedit 18:18 < jeru> ahh ... thougt that they are hosting a mirror 18:19 < rxr> mipe: the xfce stuff needs no checkin - I properly fix it to use pkgprefix ... 18:19 < mnemoc> uhm? 18:20 < mipe> so whats the schedule here,how many days i got to get working amd64 desktop? :) 18:21 < mipe> or is the wiki timetable still correct 18:21 < rxr> I don't think so .. 18:21 < rxr> -beta4 wed next week - -rc1 1 1/2 weeks later 18:21 < mipe> ah plenty of time 18:21 < rxr> -final some time next month ... 18:21 < jeru> mipe: seems to depend on, if you'll go to school ;) 18:22 < mipe> ah crap,forgot school,was suppose to return my work on user interface course 18:22 < Postal> well moment of truth, gcc stage 1 building now 18:23 < rxr> mnemoc: was your uhm to xfce ? 18:23 < rxr> look into r7133 18:24 < mnemoc> CIA? 18:24 < CIA-2> rene * r7133 /trunk/package/xfce4/libxfce4util/xfce4-conf.in: 18:24 < CIA-2> * converted xfce4 to pkgprefix and thus fixed it also for lib64 18:24 < CIA-2> architectures 18:24 < mnemoc> ah, lib64 18:25 < mnemoc> i thought i have already converted it to pkgprefix 18:25 < rxr> mnemoc: user name mipe or mperu ? 18:25 < rxr> mpesu even 18:26 < rxr> or mikap .. 18:26 < rxr> hm - our naming scheme is quite messed ... :-( 18:26 < mnemoc> amery -> mpesu 18:26 < mnemoc> valentin, rene -> mika 18:26 < rxr> yeah ... 18:27 < mnemoc> let him choose :) 18:27 < rxr> ok - so the new policy: 18:27 < rxr> real name 18:27 < mnemoc> forget it 18:27 < rxr> name first letter of surename 18:27 < jeru> so I've to change too 18:27 < rxr> or the other way round 18:27 < Postal> are there known problems compiling gcc with parallel make in stage 1? 18:28 < rxr> mipe: what do you want mika mikap or mpesu ? *g* 18:28 < rxr> no 18:28 < mipe> mika? 18:28 < rxr> mipe: your other changes (aside the just fixed xfce) and the mention font path are fine 18:29 < Postal> /mnt/t2/t2-trunk/build/system-2.1.0-rc1-x86-64-athlon64-generic-expert/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/crosscc/../lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/3.4.3/../../../../x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/bin/ld: crti.o: No such file: No such file or directory 18:29 < Postal> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 18:29 < Postal> make[2]: *** [32/libgcc_s_32.so] Error 1 18:29 < rxr> just some (one or two) others should already be applied 18:29 < Postal> make[2]: Leaving directory `/mnt/t2/t2-trunk/src.gcc.1117815799.29340.0x7f0200/gcc-3.4.3/objdir/gcc' 18:29 < Postal> make[1]: *** [stmp-multilib] Error 2 18:29 < Postal> rm gcc.pod 18:29 < Postal> make[1]: Leaving directory `/mnt/t2/t2-trunk/src.gcc.1117815799.29340.0x7f0200/gcc-3.4.3/objdir/gcc' 18:29 < Postal> make: *** [all-gcc] Error 2 18:29 < jeru> ahh .. can somebody give me access to www2 ? 18:30 < rxr> mipe: only the bdb should wait some days in my opinion to get a wider testing before a release tag ... 18:30 < rxr> jeru: you mean no password arrives on your side right ? 18:30 < jeru> yep 18:30 < mipe> rxr:yep 18:31 < rxr> mipe: name decision ? 18:32 < mipe> rxr:mika works for me.... 18:32 < rxr> jeru: have you tried to enter a new uesr name ? 18:32 < rxr> I see no pending user in the admin interface ... 18:32 < rxr> mipe: ok - user mike inserted 18:32 < rxr> try to commit a file ... 18:33 < jeru> will try again 18:33 < rxr> and do not forget to read the commit message layout guidelines ... 18:33 < rxr> that is basically * what you did ... 18:33 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/svn-commit-tutorial.html 18:33 < mnemoc> i don't like the 'second' level of commit messages 18:33 < mipe> uhm,if i do svn commit,it will ask for the commit message,like in cvs? 18:33 < mnemoc> sure 18:33 < rxr> yes 18:33 < rxr> and for the passwd 18:34 < rxr> most probably for root 18:34 < rxr> just hit enter then and it will ask for the real user name ... 18:34 < rxr> it fiers up your $EDITOR if set - vi otherwise ... ,-) 18:34 < rxr> fires up even ... 18:37 < CIA-2> mika * r7134 /trunk/package/x86/grub/ (cvs-01-03-2005.patch grub.conf): * fix x86-64 segfault while running embed 18:37 < mipe> ok commited,now someone revert as its not yet tested 18:38 < mipe> :) 18:38 < mipe> it builds but not sure if it really fixed the segfault 18:39 < Postal> any ideas on that gcc crti.o error? 18:40 < mipe> postal:try with this patch http://koti.japo.fi/~pmika/gcc.patch 18:40 < rxr> Postal: most probably fixed by mipe's gcc patch ... 18:40 < rxr> mipe: I think the 2nd part is already in svn 18:40 < Postal> how do i apply the patch? 18:40 < rxr> wget http://... 18:41 < rxr> patch -p0 < filename 18:41 < rxr> 3.4.3-amd64.patch 18:41 < Postal> from in the gcc source directory 18:41 < rxr> Postal: after applying rm package/base/gcc/multidir-check.patch 18:41 < rxr> no - from the top level t2 dir 18:42 < mipe> yep the 2nd part is in svn 18:43 < CIA-2> amery * r7135 /trunk/package/audio/noteedit/noteedit.desc: * updated noteedit (2.7.3 -> 2.7.4) 18:43 < rxr> wow - a new noteedit version .-) 18:43 < Postal> ok patch applied and multidir-check.patch removed 18:43 < Postal> im going to build again now 18:45 < rxr> maybe you need to rebuild o-gcc ... 18:45 < rxr> 0-gcc even ... 18:45 < Postal> do you think i should? 18:45 < Postal> or only if it fails 18:46 < mnemoc> rxr: new maintainer 18:46 < rxr> yes, you should ... 18:46 < Postal> ok.. what is the command to schedual a rebuild again? 18:47 < rxr> ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg -delete gcc 18:47 < rxr> or so .. 18:47 < mnemoc> -remove 18:47 < mnemoc> -delete don't remove the files 18:47 < rxr> ,-) 18:47 < rxr> well - no delte needed ... 18:47 < rxr> just remove is enough 18:47 < Postal> ok 18:47 < rxr> and the stage 0 files are in no flist anyway (IIRC) 18:48 < jeru> hmmm ... cyrus-sasl2 doesn't build 18:48 < mnemoc> why? 18:48 < jeru> mv: cannot stat `.deps/allockey.Tpo': No such file or directory 18:48 < Postal> ok gcc i building from stage 0 again 18:48 < jeru> mnemoc: 18:48 < jeru> make[2]: *** [allockey.lo] Error 1 18:48 < jeru> make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... 18:48 < jeru> NOPARALLEL ? 18:48 < Postal> :-) 18:49 < mnemoc> try it but i doubt 18:49 < jeru> ok 18:49 < Postal> Its never that simple ;-) but simple is the best place to start lol 18:49 < mnemoc> :) 18:52 < Postal> well stage 0 built ok as usual, lets all cross our finger for stage 1 lo; 18:52 < Postal> lol* 18:53 < Postal> cause ive been sitting at this error for a week or so now 18:53 < Postal> mipe, if this works, then your my new best friend lol 18:54 < jeru> mnemoc: cyrus-sasl2 is building with [F] NOPARALLEL 18:54 < mnemoc> good :) 18:54 < jeru> should I commit ? 18:55 < mnemoc> if that fixed it, sure 18:56 < jeru> yeah .. thought you wanted to hack around ;) 18:56 < mnemoc> i'll go to shower, if you want to hack much better 18:57 < jeru> don't swimm away :D 18:57 < mnemoc> :p 18:59 < CIA-2> chris * r7136 /trunk/package/security/cyrus-sasl2/cyrus-sasl2.desc: * package flagged NOPARALLEL 19:02 < Postal> /mnt/t2/t2-trunk/build/system-2.1.0-rc1-x86-64-athlon64-generic-expert/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/crosscc/../lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/3.4.3/../../../../x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/bin/ld: crti.o: No such file: No such file or directory 19:02 < Postal> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 19:02 < Postal> make[2]: *** [32/libgcc_s_32.so] Error 1 19:02 < Postal> make[2]: Leaving directory `/mnt/t2/t2-trunk/src.gcc.1117817930.30282.0x7f0200/gcc-3.4.3/objdir/gcc' 19:02 < Postal> make[1]: *** [stmp-multilib] Error 2 19:02 < Postal> make[1]: Leaving directory `/mnt/t2/t2-trunk/src.gcc.1117817930.30282.0x7f0200/gcc-3.4.3/objdir/gcc' 19:03 < Postal> make: *** [all-gcc] Error 2 19:03 < Postal> errm 19:05 < mipe> 0-gcc? 19:05 < Postal> 1-gcc 0 built fine' 19:06 < Postal> it first reported a waiting for unfinished jobs, so i NOPARALLEL flagged it, got the exact same error, without the one line waiting for unfinised jobs 19:09 < Postal> any ideas? 19:10 < mipe> hmm 19:14 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.10] has joined #t2 19:17 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.38] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 19:23 < mipe> hmm no idea whys that. i always get error on 2-gcc when having 4 parallel jobs, so i changed it to 2(not a good number) but works,you could try to disable it,setting it to 0 and rebuild 19:23 < mnemoc_> ia32? 19:23 < mipe> x86-64 19:24 < mnemoc_> odd 19:24 < mipe> postal:i'll check if i get an error at 1-gcc while building bootdisk 19:25 < Postal> mipe are you saying that prehaps if i rebuild 0 with NOPARALLEL also i might fix the problem 19:26 < mipe> hmm, just the 1-gcc rebuild 19:26 < Postal> mipe already done that.. 19:27 < mnemoc_> i found almost unbelivable that gcc can't be built parallel 19:28 < Postal> you found it unbelivable, or you find it unbelivable? 19:28 < mnemoc_> find* :) 19:28 < mnemoc_> present 19:28 < Postal> ;-) 19:28 < mipe> mnemoc:it can be,just something wierd with jobs stuff,at 2-gcc i got an error something like:delete file,access the deleted file style 19:29 < mipe> since 0 and 1 stages are built fine with parallel jobs, so i'm thinking with something wierd with make 19:30 < Postal> i can build gcc 0 just fine... its just 1 where the problem comes in 19:30 < mnemoc_> gcc-0 is very minimalistic 19:35 < mipe> postal whats the error again? whats before the ld failure 19:36 < Postal> ill pull it up for you 1 om 19:36 < Postal> mom 19:37 < Postal> /mnt/t2/t2-trunk/build/system-2.1.0-rc1-x86-64-athlon64-generic-expert/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/crosscc/../lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/3.4.3/../../../../x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/bin/ld: crti.o: No such file: No such file or directory 19:37 < Postal> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 19:38 < mipe> and before that 19:38 < Postal> thats quite long, but i could post it if you like 19:38 < Postal> x86_64-t2-linux-gnu-gcc -O2 -DIN_GCC -W -Wall -Wwrite-strings -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wold-style-definition -isystem ./include -fPIC -DHAVE_SYSLOG -g -DHAVE_GTHR_DEFAULT -DIN_LIBGCC2 -D__GCC_FLOAT_NOT_NEEDED -shared -nodefaultlibs -Wl,--soname=libgcc_s.so.1 -Wl,--version-script=libgcc/32/libgcc.map -o 32/libgcc_s.so.1.tmp -m32 libgcc/32/_muldi3.o libgcc/32/_negdi2.o libgcc/32/_lshrdi3.o libgcc/32/_ashldi3.o libgcc/32/ 19:38 < Postal> _ashrdi3.o libgcc/32/_cmpdi2.o libgcc/32/_ucmpdi2.o libgcc/32/_floatdidf.o libgcc/32/_floatdisf.o libgcc/32/_fixunsdfsi.o libgcc/32/_fixunssfsi.o libgcc/32/_fixunsdfdi.o libgcc/32/_fixdfdi.o libgcc/32/_fixunssfdi.o libgcc/32/_fixsfdi.o libgcc/32/_fixxfdi.o libgcc/32/_fixunsxfdi.o libgcc/32/_floatdixf.o libgcc/32/_fixunsxfsi.o libgcc/32/_fixtfdi.o libgcc/32/_fixunstfdi.o libgcc/32/_floatditf.o libgcc/32/_clear_cache.o libgcc/32/_enable_execute_s 19:38 < Postal> tack.o libgcc/32/_trampoline.o libgcc/32/__main.o libgcc/32/_absvsi2.o libgcc/32/_absvdi2.o libgcc/32/_addvsi3.o libgcc/32/_addvdi3.o libgcc/32/_subvsi3.o libgcc/32/_subvdi3.o libgcc/32/_mulvsi3.o libgcc/32/_mulvdi3.o libgcc/32/_negvsi2.o libgcc/32/_negvdi2.o libgcc/32/_ctors.o libgcc/32/_ffssi2.o libgcc/32/_ffsdi2.o libgcc/32/_clz.o libgcc/32/_clzsi2.o libgcc/32/_clzdi2.o libgcc/32/_ctzsi2.o libgcc/32/_ctzdi2.o libgcc/32/_popcount_tab.o libgcc 19:39 < Postal> /32/_popcountsi2.o libgcc/32/_popcountdi2.o libgcc/32/_paritysi2.o libgcc/32/_paritydi2.o libgcc/32/_stack_smash_handler.o libgcc/32/_divdi3.o libgcc/32/_moddi3.o libgcc/32/_udivdi3.o libgcc/32/_umoddi3.o libgcc/32/_udiv_w_sdiv.o libgcc/32/_udivmoddi4.o libgcc/32/unwind-dw2.o libgcc/32/unwind-dw2-fde-glibc.o libgcc/32/unwind-sjlj.o libgcc/32/gthr-gnat.o libgcc/32/unwind-c.o -lc && rm -f libgcc_s_32.so && if [ -f 32/libgcc_s.so.1 ]; then mv -f 19:39 < Postal> 32/libgcc_s.so.1 32/libgcc_s.so.1.`basename `; else true; fi && mv 32/libgcc_s.so.1.tmp 32/libgcc_s.so.1 && ln -s 32/libgcc_s.so.1 libgcc_s_32.so 19:42 < mipe> thats all before the error? 19:43 < Postal> no, theres hundreds of lines lol 19:43 < mipe> can you post error log somewhere? 19:43 < Postal> i dont have anywhere... 19:43 < Postal> i could email it i suppose 19:45 < mipe> sure pmika@japo.fi just bzip it or something. 19:45 < Postal> ok 19:49 < Postal> ok i sent the err log 20:00 -!- Postal1 [~Postal@ool-4356292a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #t2 20:00 -!- Postal [~Postal@ool-4356292a.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:01 -!- Postal1 is now known as Postal 20:01 < mipe> well it doesnt find the 32bit libs but why.... 20:01 < Postal> cause glibc32 has not compiled yet... 20:01 < mipe> :) 20:01 < mipe> you may need to pkgsel X glibc32 it 20:02 < Postal> ...? 20:02 < mipe> i noticed that for some reason it isnt included on default 20:02 < mipe> grep glibc32 config/ is it O or X 20:03 < mnemoc_> glibc32 should be autoenabled 20:03 < mipe> yep it should 20:04 < Postal> but how do i enable it 20:04 < mipe> so it was O? 20:04 < mipe> ./scripts/Config -cfg system 20:05 < mipe> and on expert theres package selection thingy 20:05 < Postal> i dont know, i cannot get the config command to work 20:05 < mipe> ups thats grep glibc32 config/system/packages 20:05 < mnemoc_> grep glibc config/system/packages 20:06 < Postal> O -1---5---- 101.600 base glibc32 2.3.4 / base/library 0 20:06 < Postal> but it did not build in stage 0 lol 20:06 < mipe> enable it through config 20:06 < mipe> its disabled for some reason 20:06 < mnemoc_> what target are you using? 20:06 < Postal> -cfg system 20:07 < mnemoc_> that's 'config' not target 20:07 < mipe> but i'm going to do some school stuff,back tomorrow 20:07 < mnemoc_> cu mipe 20:07 < Postal> generic w/ minimal-desktop 20:07 < mipe> cu 20:07 -!- mipe [~mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has quit ["school"] 20:08 < jeru> postal: btw you can choose whatever name you want e.g. "./scripts/Config -cfg postals64bithorse" 20:08 < mnemoc_> school.... my daughter enters? school next year. /me feels old 20:09 < jeru> poor mnemoc 20:09 < jeru> :D 20:09 < Postal> jeru, i like it simple 20:09 < mnemoc_> -cfg a 20:09 < jeru> yeah ... but wait if'll build more than one system ;) 20:09 < Postal> what do i add in selection rules to enable glibc 32 for stage 0, 1 and 5 20:09 < mnemoc_> if you don't specify one, it's called 'default' 20:10 < jeru> ohh I forgot 20:10 < jeru> ;) 20:10 < mnemoc_> Postal: you can't change the stages with rules 20:10 < jeru> I just like T2 :) 20:10 < Postal> umm well i dont want to change the stages, i just want to enable to package for this template 20:11 < mnemoc_> Postal: Config -> Expert -> Package Selection 'X glibc32' 20:11 < Postal> that will enable it? 20:11 < mnemoc_> yep 20:11 < jeru> yep 20:30 < Postal> gcc built with parallel make after glibc32 was installe 20:30 < Postal> d 20:30 < Postal> now on to ncurses 20:31 < Postal> does this build all of the development packages also... ie for gcc and ncurses and whatnot, or do those have to be compiled speratly? 20:31 < rxr> re 20:32 < mnemoc_> rxr: any idea why glibc32 was not autoenabled for postal's generic minimal-desktop? 20:35 < rxr> maybe due to minima-desktop ... 20:36 < rxr> hm - it is in the minimal-desktop.in selection .. 20:36 < rxr> .no it is not ... 20:36 * rxr blnded again 20:39 < rxr> so - commited .. 20:39 < rxr> Postal: could you test 20:39 < CIA-2> rene * r7137 /trunk/misc/pkgsel/ (benchmark.in minimal-desktop.in minimal-xorg.in minimal.in): * updated the package selection templates to include glibc32 20:40 < mnemoc_> Postal: that means, svn up, and remove glibc32 rule on your pkgsel 20:45 < rxr> 678 builds total, 569 completed fine, 20:45 < rxr> soo nice to have a way more minimal desktop ,-) 20:45 < rxr> hey - it seems to build in one day on my athlon ... 20:45 < rxr> nice 20:46 < Postal> mnemoc_, why not just let it go, and it will be fine? 20:46 < rxr> yeha - let it go ... 20:46 < mnemoc_> :) 20:46 < rxr> I do one more tweak anyway .. 20:47 < jeru> :) 20:49 < Postal> in stage 2 now 20:50 < rxr> ,-) 20:51 < Postal> here comes gcc stage 2 20:52 < CIA-2> rene * r7138 /trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs): 20:52 < CIA-2> * removed explicit glibc and gcc hardcoding from the package 20:52 < CIA-2> preselection templates - used LIBC and CC instead 20:52 < CIA-2> * removed libc groupping from glibc32 but flagged it as LIBC to include 20:52 < CIA-2> it via LIBC package selection 20:52 < mnemoc_> .oO 20:52 < CIA-2> amery * r7139 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/pkgsel/Services/postgres.ask: * add PostgreSQL add-in for mnemosyne 20:52 < Postal> rxr, what will that do? 20:53 < rxr> Postal: make sure glibc32 is selected when you do the next fresh build using a package preselection template ... 20:56 < CIA-2> amery * r7140 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/pkgsel/Base/linux.all: * added glibc32 to mnemosyne 20:56 < rxr> lol 20:56 < rxr> mnemoc_: what about using LIBC ? 20:57 < mnemoc_> ROCKCFG_LIBC ? 20:57 < mnemoc_> +/ LIBC / { p; d; }; 20:57 < mnemoc_> +/ CC / { p; d; }; ? 20:57 < mnemoc_> i dont' understand... where is that translated? 20:57 < rxr> the rules match to the wohle line as it is in config/*/packages 20:58 < rxr> and it contains all flags ... 20:58 < mnemoc_> aa... the flags 20:58 < rxr> and LIBC and CC are flags ... 20:58 < mnemoc_> i use pkgsel 20:58 < rxr> ah - ok - then stay so ... 20:59 < mnemoc_> firefox== 15:48:47 =[9]=> Building www/firefox [1.0.1 2.1.0-rc1]. 20:59 < mnemoc_> == 03/06/05 16:50:55 =[9]=> Finished building package firefox. 21:00 < Postal> it took you 58min to build firefox..? 21:01 < mnemoc_> 62 21:01 < Postal> oh your right ;-) 21:01 < Postal> yeay gcc stage 2 built in stage 3 now 21:01 < Postal> just chug chug chugging right along here 21:02 < jeru> :) 21:02 < mnemoc_> :) 21:04 < rxr> Postal: not everyone has a x86-64 ... 21:04 < rxr> my iBok takes 3 hours to build firefox ... 21:04 < Postal> OMG really, i thought firefox was fairly small 21:04 < rxr> *lol* no - not really .. 21:04 < jeru> rxr: :/ 21:04 < Postal> i have never actually built firefox so i would not know 21:05 < jeru> so we can establish a firefox benchmark ;) 21:05 < mnemoc_> Postal: links is a good small browser 21:05 < jeru> :D 21:05 < Postal> i like links 21:05 < mnemoc_> rxr: what do you think of links these days? 21:05 < rxr> Build [9] at 03/06/2005 from 13:38:17 to 15:40:49 CET 21:06 < rxr> Package Name and Version: firefox 1.0.1 2.1.0-rc1 21:06 < mnemoc_> _two_ hours 21:06 < rxr> yeah - ok 21:07 < rxr> long enought 21:10 < mnemoc_> i took 1h on firefox and 1:15 on lunux26 21:12 < jeru> so you're quite fast ;) 21:12 < mnemoc_> but i can't even mouse my mouse during the build on my laptop :p 21:12 < mnemoc_> move my mouse 21:13 < jeru> you don't really need one .D 21:13 < mnemoc_> :) 21:14 < jeru> as long as you have 2 hands 21:14 < mnemoc_> i have :) 21:15 < jeru> that's what I tell my windooz admin's at work quite often ;) 21:15 < Postal> !> checking for perl... no 21:15 < Postal> !> configure: error: perl is not found 21:15 < Postal> !> No 3-autoconf.log file. 21:15 < Postal> hmm sounds simple enough 21:15 < mnemoc_> aren't you on stage 2? 21:16 < Postal> stage 3 21:16 < rxr> no perl i minimal ? ... 21:16 < mnemoc_> perl should have been built 21:16 < Postal> well i could go and enable it in the package selection rules, then it will build i suppose 21:17 < mnemoc_> yes 21:17 < Postal> X perl 21:17 < mnemoc_> :) 21:17 < rxr> .oO 21:17 < mnemoc_> rxr: ? 21:17 < rxr> nvidia does not build with .11 ... 21:17 < Postal> oh silly me it would help if i downloaded it 21:18 < mnemoc_> rxr: how is linux-header build? 21:18 < mnemoc_> +going 21:18 < rxr> not too many problems 21:18 < rxr> most I have due to my stripped down desktop build ... 21:18 < rxr> ah - two presel's ahve perl5 in it ... 21:18 < rxr> *lol* 21:19 < mnemoc_> :) 21:19 < Postal> will perl not build with PARRALLEL? 21:20 < rxr> maybe not ... 21:20 < Postal> cause its flagged that way 21:20 < rxr> svn log package/perl/perl/perl.desc will tell you who did that when and why 21:21 < mnemoc_> perl^3 21:21 < CIA-2> rene * r7141 /trunk/misc/pkgsel/ (benchmark.in minimal-desktop.in): * s/perl5/perl perl/ in the package preselection templates ... 21:23 < mnemoc_> rxr: as you only use desktop, and i only use mnemosyne we don't notice that stuff :) 21:23 < CIA-2> rene * r7142 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * removed sjog and mysql-perl from the desktop target 21:23 < Postal> rxr, you added it on January 16th becasue of packages broken with -j* flag, and also flagged mine, pam, and picutils as well 21:26 < rxr> well - then it was ... ,-) 21:27 < Postal> yeay stage 5 21:27 < mnemoc_> :D 21:27 < Postal> this is the longest stage correct? 21:28 < jeru> yep 21:28 < mnemoc_> yes 21:28 < Postal> gcc, glibc, and kernels are built for the final time? 21:28 < rxr> yes 21:29 < rxr> unless you have too many CPU cycles and enable the rebuild stage 9 ... 21:29 < Postal> um no lol 21:29 < Postal> i dont see the point in having that option 21:30 < mnemoc_> to test the usability of the produced platform 21:30 < Postal> couldent you just boot in a test it lol 21:30 < mnemoc_> and to detect weak dependencies 21:30 < Postal> is it worth doing? 21:31 < mnemoc_> if you have tooy may free CPU cycles, sure :) 21:31 < mnemoc_> too many* 21:31 < rxr> Postal: in other words - don't mess with it ,-) 21:31 < mnemoc_> that will double your build time 21:31 < Postal> to many not too, too=also 21:31 < mnemoc_> oh 21:31 < Postal> i went to the store too... 21:31 < Postal> ;-) 21:31 < mnemoc_> i was convised of that 'usable' of 'too' 21:31 < mnemoc_> usage* 21:32 < Postal> so are most Americans 21:32 < mnemoc_> i guess my teachers were convinsed too :) 21:32 < Postal> Im British so i know... 21:32 < Postal> ;) 21:32 < mnemoc_> hehe 21:32 < mnemoc_> i'll believe you 21:33 < mnemoc_> "it's to hot" or "it's too hot" ? 21:34 < Postal> well, it depends if you belive websters dictionary(american) or Oxford (english) 21:34 < rxr> too hot 21:34 < mnemoc_> rxr: that what i thought, but Postal's "to many" confused me 21:34 < jeru> well, atm it's just cold ;) 21:35 < mnemoc_> hehe 21:35 < rxr> *lol* yeah - in germany it is ... 21:35 < rxr> too cold in DE and too hot in CL 21:35 < Postal> too hot in either case... but the Americans seem to have more usages than the Oxford dictionary... 21:35 < jeru> the Americans are allways special ones ;) 21:36 < jeru> mostly 21:36 * mnemoc_ kicks firefox updates!!! i loose all my searchengines and extensions 21:36 < Postal> lol 21:36 < rxr> like their president to rule them all ... 21:36 < jeru> don't let me think about it right now ... :| 21:37 < Postal> Just about the only thing that he has going for him are his tax policies... other than that he is an idiot 21:38 < rxr> good to hear that from an american *g* 21:38 < mnemoc_> Im British so i know... 21:38 < jeru> postal: this guy cannot read ! do you really believe that he understand something about taxes ??? 21:38 < rxr> jeru: maybe he learned it in between ... 21:38 < jeru> :D 21:39 < Postal> Well i live in america.. but not by choice 21:39 * mnemoc_ remember funny movies about british guys living in america 21:39 < jeru> :D 21:39 < Postal> Well, his taxes were better than kerry's if you did the math on his policies, he was missing somthing like 10 billion dollars 21:39 -!- keinek_ [~Keinek@201.254.9.228] has joined #t2 21:39 < keinek_> hi everbody 21:39 < mnemoc_> wb keinek_ 21:40 < Postal> hello 21:40 < jeru> postal: call him gwb or kerry ... just the money rules !!! 21:40 < keinek_> T2 compile good in old version of Rock linux :P 21:40 < keinek_> now is compiling ... 21:40 < keinek_> :P 21:40 < Postal> prehaps we should not talk politics 21:41 < Postal> :-) 21:41 < rxr> yeah ... 21:41 < jeru> yep ... other time perhaps ;) 21:41 < mnemoc_> keinek_: good :) 21:41 < keinek_> but in the same time i download the iso's of T2 21:41 < keinek_> ha ha ha is not politics 21:41 < keinek_> in debian dont work 21:42 < keinek_> i like T2 21:42 < mnemoc_> what do you like of t2? 21:42 < keinek_> live cd's 21:42 < jeru> bad question mnemoc! ;) 21:43 < mnemoc_> :p 21:43 < rxr> .oO 21:43 < mnemoc_> is valentin dead? 21:44 < jeru> hopefully not 21:44 < mnemoc_> svn: PROPFIND of '/t2/trunk': Could not read status line: connection was closed by server. (http://svn.exactcode.de) <--- five times 21:44 < mnemoc_> six 21:44 < keinek_> how much time remaind compile the ROUTER target? 21:45 < mnemoc_> half day? 21:45 < rxr> mnemoc_: ? 21:45 < jeru> hmmm depends on your system 21:45 < keinek_> now is in the binutils 21:45 < rxr> phoned with valentin around 20:00 21:45 < keinek_> my system is amd 1300 mhz 21:45 < keinek_> old duron 21:46 < keinek_> but real 1300 21:46 < mnemoc_> rxr: eleven failures until now 21:46 < mnemoc_> rxr: now it passed 21:46 < rxr> works here ... 21:46 < jeru> keinek: ack to mnemocs suggestion 21:46 < jeru> half a day 21:46 < keinek_> ok... i wait 21:47 < mnemoc_> svn: PROPFIND of '/gsmp/trunk/utility': Could not read status line: connection was closed by server. (http://svn.exactcode.de) <--- aarg 21:47 < keinek_> what happen if the light turn off? 21:47 < mnemoc_> you can't see 21:47 < keinek_> i cant continue compiling later? 21:47 < keinek_> hahaha 21:47 < mnemoc_> yes, 21:47 < rxr> keinek_: I like this stats: http://svn.exactcode.de/big.png 21:47 < keinek_> click 21:48 < keinek_> Mmmmm 21:48 < mnemoc_> rock vs. t2 commit averages 21:48 < keinek_> hahaha a frag war? 21:48 < mnemoc_> :p 21:49 < keinek_> Rock never finish compile in my system 21:49 < keinek_> and nobody help me 21:49 < keinek_> but... 21:49 < keinek_> in t2 21:50 < rxr> ,-) 21:50 < keinek_> i hope that work 21:50 < jeru> so now you've a better reason for using T2 21:50 < jeru> :D 21:50 < rxr> maybe I should plot t2 vs. rock IRC stats ... 21:50 < jeru> oh shit 21:50 < keinek_> yes... all us 21:51 < keinek_> sorry again for my english 21:51 < keinek_> i like speak so much but i am dont know how. 21:52 < keinek_> in spanish i speak so so so so much :P 21:52 < jeru> I've never used rock's irc channel .... so I don't know their behavior 21:52 < keinek_> mnemoc_ knows 21:52 < jeru> as most spanish speaking people ;) 21:52 < mnemoc_> keinek_: i know 21:52 < mnemoc_> uhm 21:52 < keinek_> mnemoc_ ;) 21:52 < jeru> but I like it 21:52 < jeru> would like to speak spanish 21:53 < mnemoc_> jeru: keinek talks more than the 95% of the people :) 21:53 < keinek_> :D 21:53 < jeru> :D 21:53 < keinek_> mnemoc_, you download the sources from the wireless connection? 21:56 < mnemoc_> to update my laptop yes 21:56 < mnemoc_> i just updated firefox 21:56 < mnemoc_> but my build machine is wired 21:57 < jeru> weird :) 21:58 < jeru> mnemoc: wanna have squid syne -> propose "Caching Proxy" as desc. 21:58 < jeru> i mean into syne 22:00 < mnemoc_> ack 22:00 < mnemoc_> + dansguardin please 22:00 < mnemoc_> guardian* 22:00 < jeru> X squid X dansguardian ? 22:01 < mnemoc_> yes 22:01 < mnemoc_> imo 22:01 < mnemoc_> what do you think? 22:01 < jeru> everything fine ... 22:02 < keinek_> hahaha my computer is open for all hackers, in my issue file i put "welcome hackers" hahaha 22:02 < jeru> but never used dansguardian ... 22:02 < jeru> but seems that I have to ... :) 22:03 < keinek_> is easy add one program in the T2, i said... add one program in the scripts? 22:04 < jeru> im allready on http://dansguardian.org/ 22:04 < jeru> :) 22:04 < jeru> looks quite interesting 22:08 < rxr> keinek_: adding new packages is normally very easy 22:08 < mnemoc_> i consider it necesary for a good 'Caching Proxy' 22:09 < jeru> ack 22:09 < keinek_> rxr, when i have t2 installed in my system i start play with that :) 22:10 < jeru> mnemoc: or should we use "Proxy Cache" ? 22:10 < keinek_> is posible make one live cd that have nvidia drivers with tv out, and firefox ... quake 3... etc. etc.? 22:11 < rxr> keinek_: in theory yes 22:11 < keinek_> Mmmmm 22:11 < keinek_> one LIVE DVD ! 22:11 < keinek_> :P 22:11 < mnemoc_> jeru: the first sounds better to me 22:11 < jeru> ok ... 22:11 < rxr> just that the current live cd is not yet that advanced anyway ... 22:11 < rxr> if you put some work on it it is possible ... 22:12 < rxr> and I redo the livecd soon anyway ... 22:12 < keinek_> Mmmm ok, i will learn 22:13 < keinek_> mnemoc_, i dont make radio programs anymore.. sorry. Play with targets is my new hobby :P 22:14 < mnemoc_> :) 22:14 < mnemoc_> keinek_: you can make a 'multimedia desktop' target :) 22:14 < keinek_> Mmmm sounds good 22:14 < mnemoc_> and a target for your class rooms 22:15 < keinek_> my class room love windows... losers... 22:16 < keinek_> one day... they need me 22:16 < jeru> haha 22:16 < keinek_> all machines with windows 98 22:16 < jeru> ouch .... 22:16 < CIA-2> rene * r7143 /trunk/package/x11/nvidia/ (4 files): 22:16 < CIA-2> * added semi official nvidia patches - two of them to make it build 22:16 < CIA-2> with 2.6.11 22:17 < keinek_> you know... put "con/con" in everywhere and you will see. 22:17 < mnemoc_> keinek_: it's your responsability to show them a good T2-based replacement 22:17 < rxr> windows 98? what linux distribution is it? Or is it BSD based? 22:17 < keinek_> hahaha 22:18 < CIA-2> chris * r7144 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/pkgsel/Services/Web/cachingproxy.ask: * added Caching Proxy option to mnemosyne 22:18 < keinek_> mnemoc_, live cd... is the key 22:18 < mnemoc_> nad 22:19 < mnemoc_> chris :p 22:19 < mnemoc_> mv /dev/{jeru,chris} 22:19 < jeru> :D 22:19 < keinek_> i will put in the cdrom drive... and my class room can experiment the future! 22:20 < keinek_> if my boss apear, just push reset and... windows again :P 22:20 < jeru> mnemoc: but I'm not a device! ;) 22:21 < mnemoc_> :) 22:22 < jeru> keinek: is the name of your boss bill gates ? 22:22 < jeru> or why you fear punishment? :) 22:23 < keinek_> hahaha my boss is a lammer 22:23 < keinek_> said that linux is a copy of windows. 22:23 < keinek_> he is happy with XP and norton 22:24 < jeru> let him 22:24 < keinek_> but... he paid me 22:24 < keinek_> in the day, i am a stupid teacher 22:24 < keinek_> in the night, i am .... happy. 22:24 < keinek_> :P 22:24 < jeru> so you're a kind of mutant 22:25 < jeru> :D 22:25 < mnemoc_> :D 22:25 < keinek_> YEAH! one day the world be my! 22:25 < keinek_> :D 22:26 < jeru> do you know the comic "Pinky and the Brain" ? 22:26 < mnemoc_> hehe 22:26 < keinek_> yes 22:26 < keinek_> hehe 22:26 < mnemoc_> he is more like ren and stimpy :) 22:26 < keinek_> my boss is pinky 22:27 < jeru> hmmm ... but pinky is quite lovely 22:28 < keinek_> yes... my boss too, but he like windows 22:28 < jeru> he just want to save the income of thousand "professionals" ;) 22:28 < mnemoc_> if you don't know anything different you will only think you have the 'best' 22:29 < mnemoc_> s/only/always/ 22:29 < keinek_> he can't understand 22:30 < keinek_> is like the old people with the music 22:30 < keinek_> he listen blues... i like blues... and classic... rock... pop. 22:30 < keinek_> he listen only blues, and critic my music. 22:31 < keinek_> "critic" exist that word? 22:31 < keinek_> :D 22:33 < Postal> If by critic you mean critique as in to correct, or to reiew in a critical or commentary way then yes it exists 22:34 < keinek_> ok... whatever... my boss is a lammer 22:34 < keinek_> :D 22:34 < Postal> lol 22:34 < Postal> :D 22:35 < jeru> lamer 22:35 < jeru> sorry ... 22:35 < jeru> :D 22:35 < keinek_> lammer sounds better :P 22:35 < keinek_> more agresive 22:36 < jeru> haha 22:36 < Postal> haha 22:36 < Postal> uh building the toolchain takes ages lol 22:42 < mnemoc_> your ages are shorter than mine 22:43 < Postal> this is ture 22:43 < Postal> but im an impatient person 22:45 < mnemoc_> i have trees on 6 different machines so my time multiplexes asyncronous :) 22:46 < Postal> ic... i have no idea what you just said 22:46 < mnemoc_> i have 6 machines building 22:46 < Postal> building one thing or six things 22:46 < mnemoc_> each takes ages buidling 22:47 < jeru> mnemoc: we've to buid a global t2 build grid ! :) 22:47 < mnemoc_> but while i do something on one, the others build 22:47 < jeru> build 22:47 < Postal> you mean like a bittorrent for distcc? 22:48 < Postal> people might not like giving up there cpu cyles though 22:48 < Postal> yeay the toolchain has built in stage 5 22:50 < mnemoc_> distcd target ;) 22:52 < keinek_> ok dietlibc show me error 22:52 < keinek_> :( 22:52 < mnemoc_> what stage? 22:52 < keinek_> router 22:52 < keinek_> i wait for the T2 isos and will try again 22:53 < keinek_> this rock linux have months 22:53 < mnemoc_> you don't need to blame rock 22:53 < keinek_> in 3 hours i have the first iso 22:53 < mnemoc_> what stage? 22:54 < mnemoc_> router is a target not an stage 22:54 < keinek_> ahh ok 22:54 < jeru> mnemoc: do you have something against putting zope into syne -> desc: "Zope Application Server" ? But just if python is enabled! 22:55 < jeru> because it depends on it 22:55 < mnemoc_> Zope forcing Python can be better 22:55 < jeru> how can I do this? 22:55 < mnemoc_> vserver forces vlan 22:56 < jeru> ok will take a look ;) thanks 22:57 < keinek_> i dont know what stage is, sure that is the first stage 22:57 < Postal> bdb is still broken 22:58 < Postal> usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/3.4.3/../../../../lib64/crti.o(.fini+0x0):/TOOLCHAIN/src.glibc.1117826902.32699.0x7f0200/glibc-2.3.4/objdir/csu/crti.S: first defined here 22:58 < Postal> /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/3.4.3/crtbeginS.o(.data.rel+0x0): multiple definition of `__dso_handle' 22:58 < Postal> /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/3.4.3/crtbeginS.o(.data.rel+0x0): first defined here 22:58 < Postal> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 22:58 < Postal> make: *** [libdb_cxx-4.2.la] Error 1 22:58 < jeru> mnemoc: why do we have "wget" in vserver? 22:58 < mnemoc_> jeru: util-vserver dependency :( 22:58 < mnemoc_> keinek_: == 18:56:37 =[9]=> Building office/ooo [1.9-m82 2.1.0-rc1]. <--- translated as: at 18:56:37 the build of ooo version 1.9-m82 from office repository on stage 9 22:59 < mnemoc_> using a 2.1.0-rc1 tree 22:59 < keinek_> that 9 is the stage? 22:59 < jeru> ah okk :/ a bit strange .. isn't it ?? 22:59 < keinek_> 0.28 23:00 < keinek_> [0.28 2.1.0-rc1] 23:00 < mnemoc_> jeru: i hate util-vserver dependencies 23:01 < mnemoc_> jeru: enrico is a bit mind closed 23:01 < keinek_> sorry 23:01 < keinek_> jejeje 23:01 < keinek_> stage 1 23:01 < mnemoc_> but daja77 can tell us a closer opinion 23:02 < jeru> mnemoc: #Forced: python doesn't work 23:02 < mnemoc_> it's case sensitive 23:02 < daja77> huh? about what 23:03 < mnemoc_> Enrico Scholz, from your university 23:03 < mnemoc_> how is he in real life? 23:05 < daja77> hm he never says much, on the net he focuses on technical discussions, don't see him very often 23:06 < mnemoc_> jeru: #Force: PYTHON 23:06 < mnemoc_> Forced* 23:06 < mnemoc_> daja77: ic 23:06 < jeru> that what I did ... but doesn't function either 23:07 < mnemoc_> review the cache files on src/$config/ 23:08 < jeru> ack 23:08 < mnemoc_> keinek_: can you publish (http) your 1-dietlibc error log? 23:10 < keinek_> mnemoc_, how? 23:10 < mnemoc_> cp src.dietlibc.blah/ERROR_LOG ~keinek/public_html/dietlibc.err 23:12 < keinek_> ok... i minute 23:12 < keinek_> i dont have public html 23:12 < keinek_> but i can upload in one place 23:13 < mnemoc_> scp src.dietlibc.blah/ERROR_LOG keinek@your.public.place:public_html/ 23:17 < keinek_> http://projects.hsol.net/red-handed/1-dietlibc.err 23:17 < keinek_> :P 23:18 -!- keinek_ is now known as keinek 23:19 < keinek> Mmmmm a big log file :) 23:20 < mnemoc_> rxr: mr. dietlibc, can you look into: http://projects.hsol.net/red-handed/1-dietlibc.err plese? 23:20 < rxr> ouhm 23:22 -!- mtr [~michael@Hbf9a.h.pppool.de] has quit ["Verlassend"] 23:22 < rxr> disable 1-dietlibc ... 23:22 < rxr> no idea - never saw it bailing out there 23:23 < keinek> well... 23:23 < keinek> i will kick ass rock linux 23:23 < mnemoc_> keinek: don't blame rock for that 23:23 < keinek> and i will install when arrive my T2 isos. 23:23 < keinek> :) 23:24 < keinek> sorry 23:24 < keinek> i dont mean that 23:24 < keinek> just... rock linux is incompatible with T2 23:25 < keinek> this is a old version of rock linux 23:25 < mnemoc_> it shouldn't affect 23:25 < keinek> with T2 guest system, should work? 23:26 < mnemoc_> sure 23:26 < keinek> great! 23:26 < mnemoc_> keinek: build a minimal T2 on that rock and reinstall :) 23:27 < keinek> now? 23:27 < mnemoc_> keinek: you don't need to wait for the desktop isos 23:27 < keinek> ok 23:28 < keinek> what build? 23:28 < keinek> rescue? 23:28 < mnemoc_> no, generic+minimal 23:28 < keinek> that no appear 23:28 < keinek> "minimal" said only in the router build 23:28 < mnemoc_> Config -> Expert -> Template 23:29 < keinek> ok 23:29 < keinek> i will see 23:30 < mnemoc_> jeru: what happened? 23:30 < keinek> minimalisting package selection? 23:30 < keinek> ok... and what build? 23:31 < keinek> generic? 23:31 < mnemoc_> yep 23:31 < mnemoc_> generic target+minimal template 23:31 < keinek> fine 23:31 < keinek> is downloading now 23:32 < keinek> my duron work that athlon in my bios 23:32 < keinek> but is a duron 23:32 < keinek> i select the pentium mmx 23:32 < keinek> this conflict with the duron can affect the build-target? 23:33 < jeru> amigos ... have to go zzzzZZZZZ now ... I'm tired ... 23:33 < jeru> good night 23:33 -!- CIA-2 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [Excess Flood] 23:33 < keinek> good night jeru 23:34 -!- CIA-9 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #t2 23:34 < Postal> cu jeru 23:34 < keinek> that dreaming with bill gate :P 23:34 < jeru> if it just the gate ;) 23:34 < keinek> jeru: see you soon ;) 23:34 < keinek> in the other side ... 23:35 < jeru> :) 23:35 < jeru> keinek: you will ! :D 23:35 -!- jeru [~jeru@p54BFE73C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.11"] 23:38 < Postal> The package build aborted with the following config error: 23:38 < Postal> !> pkgprefix: package openldap is not present 23:38 < Postal> == 06/03/05 17:38:51 =[5]=> Aborted building package gnupg. 23:38 < mnemoc_> gnupg needs openldap? 23:38 < mnemoc_> mom 23:39 < Postal> rxr, you still around? 23:39 < rxr> y3s 23:39 < Postal> cool 23:40 < mnemoc_> yes, it's mandatory :) 23:40 < rxr> mnemoc_: ? 23:40 < mnemoc_> gnupg openldap is mandatory on .conf 23:41 < rxr> I do not think this is right ... 23:41 < Postal> ok, well why was it not installed, i do not have an error listed for that file... 23:41 < mnemoc_> ok, i'll if pkginstalled openldap; then that 23:42 < Postal> the only thing in the .err file is this "The package build aborted with the following config error: 23:42 < Postal> pkgprefix: package openldap is not present" 23:42 < mnemoc_> Postal: yes, moment 23:42 < Postal> np 23:43 < CIA-9> amery * r7145 /trunk/package/security/gnupg/gnupg.conf: * fixed gnupg to require openldap only if available 23:44 < Postal> ===[fonts_main:31 (last $?=0)> cp -v PenguinAttack.ttf domestic_manners.ttf /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType 23:44 < Postal> cp: copying multiple files, but last argument `/usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType' is not a directory 23:44 < Postal> Try `cp --help' for more information. 23:44 < Postal> No 5-cheapskatefonts.log file. 23:45 < mnemoc_> uhm 23:45 < mnemoc_> ls /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/ 23:45 < CIA-9> rene * r7146 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * filtered some filesystem stuff out of desktop 23:45 < Postal> inside the t2 enviroment i assume 23:45 < mnemoc_> yes 23:45 < rxr> Postal: did xorg built ... 23:45 < rxr> oh - this is a not yet merged x86 problem ... 23:45 < Postal> rxr, of course 23:45 < rxr> you only have lib64 there, right ? 23:46 < mnemoc_> ? 23:46 < Postal> i dont know i have to check 23:46 < rxr> mipe is not around - so I commit it .. 23:46 < Postal> i have both lib and lib64\ 23:46 < mnemoc_> Postal: ls -alF build/system-*/usr/X11 23:47 < Postal> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 2005-06-03 17:09 build/system-2.1.0-rc1-x86-64-athlon64-generic-expert/usr/X11 -> X11R6/ 23:47 < mnemoc_> Postal: ls -alF build/system-*/usr/X11/ 23:47 < mnemoc_> *g* 23:47 < rxr> add a / to your last command 23:48 < rxr> I'm thinking about tying more packages to xorg (prefix=`pkgprefix xorg` ; setconfopt) and just use $libdir on that ... 23:48 < Postal> total 32 23:48 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 2005-06-03 17:35 ./ 23:48 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 2005-06-03 17:09 ../ 23:48 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2005-06-03 17:35 bin/ 23:48 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2005-06-03 17:09 doc/ 23:48 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 2005-06-03 17:33 include/ 23:48 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 2005-06-03 17:33 lib/ 23:48 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2005-06-03 17:09 lib64/ 23:48 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 2005-06-03 17:34 man/ 23:48 < mnemoc_> rxr: ack 23:49 < rxr> and we should tie any X based stuff into /usr/X11/.../bin and co and not have them in /usr/bin and co 23:49 < rxr> wouldn't that be nice ? 23:49 < rxr> Build [5] at 03/05/2005 from 23:38:15 to 00:21:44 CET 23:49 < rxr> Prefix: usr/X11R6 23:50 < rxr> how I like the t2 progress ... 23:51 < rxr> Postal: where are your X11 fonts ? 23:51 < rxr> in your suse ... 23:51 < Postal> oh 23:51 < Postal> err, im not really sure 23:51 < rxr> l /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/ 23:52 < rxr> ls -l of course ... 23:52 < rxr> what does ls /usr/X11/ tell ? 23:52 < mnemoc_> rxr: i assume you noticed the benefit of pkggetdir with your libdir hack 23:52 < rxr> yeah - all fine ,-) 23:52 < Postal> total 128 23:52 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 4096 2005-06-03 15:04 . 23:52 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 2005-06-03 10:30 .. 23:52 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 65536 2005-06-03 10:33 75dpi 23:52 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2005-06-03 10:33 CID 23:52 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2005-06-03 10:33 encodings 23:52 * rxr pads mnemoc_ 23:52 < Postal> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 187 2005-06-03 15:04 fonts.cache-1 23:53 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2005-06-03 10:33 local 23:53 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 16384 2005-06-03 10:33 misc 23:53 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2005-06-03 10:33 Speedo 23:53 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2005-06-03 10:33 truetype 23:53 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2005-06-03 10:33 Type1 23:53 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2005-06-03 10:33 uni 23:53 < Postal> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28 2005-06-03 10:28 URW -> /usr/share/ghostscript/fonts 23:53 < rxr> and ls /usr/X11/ 23:53 < rxr> ,-) ? 23:54 < Postal> total 40 23:54 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 4096 2005-06-03 10:28 . 23:54 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 2005-06-03 13:12 .. 23:54 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 8192 2005-06-03 10:39 bin 23:54 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2004-04-06 01:14 GNUstep 23:54 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 2005-06-03 10:25 include 23:54 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 2005-06-03 10:29 lib 23:54 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 2005-06-03 10:31 lib64 23:54 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 2005-06-03 06:36 man 23:54 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 4096 2005-06-03 10:30 share 23:55 < rxr> ok - thanks 23:55 < Postal> Whats all this for? 23:55 < rxr> this convinces me we should have the fonts in .../lib/, too - since otherwise we would need to tweak the config files conditionally ... 23:56 < Postal> so this will fix some of the errors then 23:56 < Postal> 254 builds total, 157 completed fine, 6 with errors. 23:57 < rxr> the errors are ? 23:57 < Postal> [5] database/bdb [5] mail/exim 23:57 < Postal> [5] security/gnupg [5] fonts/cheapskatefonts 23:57 < Postal> [5] graphic/libmng [5] fonts/bitstream-vera-fon 23:57 < rxr> bdb update will fix it for x86-64 it is planed for next week .. 23:57 < rxr> gnupg will be fixed my mnemoc 23:58 < rxr> what is libmng about ? 23:58 < Postal> mom 23:58 < rxr> exim most probably due to bdb missing 23:58 < rxr> and the fonts - yeah - they are due to the outstanding path fix ... 23:58 < Postal> what is wrong with bdb 23:59 < mnemoc_> rxr: me? what? 23:59 < Postal> libmng_display.c:6493: error: `iTargety' undeclared (first use in this function) 23:59 < Postal> libmng_display.c:6532: error: `iCount' undeclared (first use in this function) 23:59 < Postal> libmng_display.c: At top level: 23:59 < Postal> libmng_display.c:6955: error: parse error before "pData" 23:59 < Postal> libmng_display.c: In function `mng_process_display_past2': 23:59 < Postal> libmng_display.c:6964: error: `pData' undeclared (first use in this function) 23:59 < Postal> rocessing static lib corrections ... 23:59 < Postal> Verifing the .la files ... 23:59 < Postal> Found 7 files for this package. 23:59 < Postal> Clear (old) md5sums and cksums ... 23:59 < Postal> Calculating package dependencies ... 23:59 < Postal> Creating md5sum and cksum files ... done. 23:59 < Postal> Creating package description ... 23:59 < Postal> Making post-install adaptions. --- Log closed Mon Mar 07 00:00:05 2005