--- Log opened Wed Feb 16 00:00:28 2005
00:01 -!- c4y0 [~c4y0@200.75.68.67] has quit ["BitchX: born to raise hell"]
00:02 < _Ragnar_> re
00:03 < rxr> hi _Ragnar_ 
00:03 < _Ragnar_> hi rxr 
00:03  * _Ragnar_ restarts Build-Target -cfg desktop
00:04 < mnemoc> rxr: autogen doubt:
00:04 < mnemoc> Please add the files
00:04 < mnemoc>   codeset.m4 gettext.m4 glibc21.m4 iconv.m4 isc-posix.m4 lcmessage.m4
00:04 < mnemoc>   progtest.m4
00:04 < mnemoc> from the /opt/gnome2/share/aclocal directory to your autoconf macro directory
00:04 < mnemoc> or directly to your aclocal.m4 file.
00:04 < mnemoc> how does this thing work?
00:05 < mnemoc> what should i patch to add /opt/gnome2/share/aclocal to the list?
00:05 < rxr> no idea
00:05 < rxr> never discovered such junk
00:06 < mnemoc> autogen.sh talks about $ACLOCAL_FLAGS
00:08 < rxr> so - my glibc32 is build for some time now (after two tries fixing trivial quoting typos)
00:08 < rxr> and one misconception i put in first ...
00:09 < _Ragnar_> mnemoc: when do you encounter that?
00:09 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: runing autogen over mono-develop
00:10 < _Ragnar_> what's autogen?
00:10  * _Ragnar_ only knows automake&autoconf
00:11 < rxr> == 02/15/05 23:00:32 =[5]=> Finished building package linux24.
00:11 < rxr> ^- powerpc ...
00:11 < mnemoc> :D
00:12 < _Ragnar_> ;D
00:13 < rxr> the build actually finished - just hat to fix a postlinux mol bug ...
00:13 < CIA-9> rene * r6559 /tags/2.1.0-beta3/package/powerpc/mol/postlinux.conf: 
00:13 < CIA-9> * fixed mol to build as postlinux and removed the ROCK copyright on the
00:13 < CIA-9>  way since that work is by no means ROCK inherited
00:13 < rxr> not that you think my build is somewhere in the middle and needs another 2 weeks or so ...
00:14 < mnemoc> 5-linux24 is 'begining' not 'middle' :)
00:15 < rxr> well - with all the pre stage 5 stuff it is quite middle - but anyway ...
00:15 < rxr> the build is "finsihed" - just needed some important package fixing ...
00:15 < mnemoc> :)
00:16 < CIA-9> rene * r6560 /trunk/package/powerpc/mol/postlinux.conf: 
00:16 < CIA-9> * merged r6559 from tags/2.1.0-beta3 into trunk:
00:16 < CIA-9>  * fixed mol to really build postlinux
00:16 < rxr> ouhm - now we tipped the scale:
00:16 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/
00:17 < rxr> mnemoc: do we keep this high level ?
00:17 < mnemoc> i'm on fixing phase
00:17 < rxr> http://cia.navi.cx/
00:17 < rxr> ^- oh!
00:24 < mnemoc> T2 is too low :(
00:27 < rxr> *lol* 
00:27 < rxr> but it is nice to see that people click on the t2 link at the cia page ;-)
00:28 < mnemoc> yes?
00:28 < rxr> yep
00:28 < rxr> not too many, but ;-)
00:28 < rxr> http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/t2
00:28 < rxr> 23
00:29 < mnemoc> what time window?
00:29 < rxr> this month only
00:30 < mnemoc> 15 days, good :)
00:30 < rxr> not last month
00:30 < rxr> but I think the link is quite new anyway
00:30 < mnemoc> yep
00:31 < rxr> just had to mine -if due to forgotten makeinstopt in glibc32 ...
00:31 < rxr> -if .../t2-2.1.0-beta3/.../glibc-....gem
00:32 < mnemoc> oh
00:49 < CIA-9> amery * r6561 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtkmozembed-sharp/gtkmozembed-sharp.conf: * fixed gtkmozembed-sharp by running autogen
00:53 -!- marcd [~marcd@zux176-162.adsl.green.ch] has joined #t2
00:53 < rxr> hi marcd 
00:53 < marcd> Hi I am trying to fing the hotplug++ author
00:53 < marcd> or one of them
00:53 < rxr> jsaw is the primary developer right now
00:53 < rxr> but it is on my TODO, too
00:54 < marcd> when is he around
00:54 < marcd> alright
00:54 < jsaw> around (more or less...)
00:54 < rxr> usual at this time - but his 2nd child is on the way soo ;-)
00:54 < mnemoc> hotplug++?? was it announced?
00:54 < marcd> I have written a complete plug and play architecture for linux in c++ too
00:54 < rxr> mnemoc: along hotplug-ng on golem.de ;-)
00:54 < marcd> yes
00:55 < rxr> marcd: nice - maybe we can share some sniplets ;-)
00:55 < marcd> I am trying to find out if we can possibly work together
00:55 < jsaw> marcd: sounds good...
00:55 < rxr> marcd: did you do it for some distribution - or for fun yourself?
00:55 < mnemoc> hehe
00:55 < mnemoc> wb jsaw 
00:55 < marcd> I show you some API docs
00:55 < marcd> http://www.arklinux.org/~marcd/html/classes.html
00:56 < marcd> this is PSI == Portable system interface
00:56 < marcd> that is the support library
00:56 < marcd> then I have build on top of that the PnpManager
00:56 < marcd> an event based system to handle hotplug and coldplug events
00:56 < CIA-9> rene * r6562 /trunk/Documentation/Developers/PKG-CATEGORIES: 
00:56 < CIA-9> * added the category extra/graphic - no idea why it is missing - most
00:56 < CIA-9>  graphic stuff is marked "multimedia" right now
00:57 < jsaw> marcd: seeing the doc, looks a bit heavy for hot/coldplugging?
00:57 < marcd> rxr: I am involved with arklinux, but PSI is not arklinux specific
00:57 < jsaw> How large is the resulting binary
00:57 < jsaw> ?
00:57 < marcd> let me check
00:58 < marcd> hotplug is 71 kb and coldplug is 68kb
00:59 < jsaw> hmm... shared I assume.
00:59 < marcd> it links dynamically vs PSI 
01:00 < mnemoc> rxr: did you wrote that article?
01:00 < marcd> PSI is 500 kb, but it is supposed to do more than just hotplugging
01:00 < rxr> mnemoc: yes
01:00 < mnemoc> rxr: :)
01:00 < rxr> well I see you use exceptions - we would avoid them
01:01 < rxr> as well as STL (if you use it)
01:01  * mnemoc moving home
01:01 < jsaw> with dietlibc, I'm currently at 33kB (static), but so far PCI detection only
01:01 < rxr> we will use the "Embedded C++" subset to be able to link against dietlibc or klibc to get minimal binary size for initial ram-disks ...
01:02 < rxr> but looking at your code and woring together should be a benefit for all ;-)
01:02 < marcd> i dont know if these few kb are really worth it
01:02 < rxr> with libstdc++ you get really huge binaries ...
01:02 < rxr> aspecially since it is usually linked against glibc and that is even a bigger burden
01:02 < rxr> you really wa
01:03 < jsaw> marcd: static linkage -> 33kB for PCI detection... 
01:03 < rxr> don't want this in early userspace ...
01:03 < marcd> yes
01:03 < marcd> does PCI detection include a XFree86 parser and a Xorg Conf parser?
01:03 < rxr> nope ;-)
01:03 < jsaw> why would I want this?
01:04 < marcd> for coldplug events for PCI gfx cards
01:04 < marcd> mice
01:04 < jsaw> what has that to do with the x config?
01:04 < rxr> oehm - you only want / need to iterate over the /proc /sys nodes ...
01:04 < jsaw> hotplug events come from kernel not from X
01:04 < marcd> It adds the gfx card to the config
01:04 < CIA-9> rene * r6563 /trunk/package/graphic/ (gocr/gocr.desc ocrad/ ocrad/ocrad.cache ocrad/ocrad.desc): * added ocrad (0.11) and marked gocr graphic (...)
01:04 < rxr> e.g. pci, usb, ... IDs ...
01:05 < rxr> and synthezice thoses
01:05 < jsaw> hotplug in its current form should do that, at least rockplug does it
01:05 < jsaw> my nvidia board was always detected correctly
01:05 < rxr> e.g. nothing from static (and due to new hardware) possibly outdated config files
01:07 < marcd> jsaw: if you change your gfx card the x11 config files should be changed
01:07 < marcd> no matter what kernel X runs on
01:07 < rxr> ehrm - you want to just use / improve X.org do to this itself ...
01:08 < rxr> e.g. for recent releases you do not need a config files (whith video card) section
01:08 < rxr> recent X.org is quite nice in this regard - and further improvements, including runtime reconfiguratoin (e.g. 2nd CRT, xinerama / no xinerama, and so on are on the way
01:09 < rxr> )
01:09 < marcd> xorg -configure generates nothing useful usually
01:09 < rxr> usually works over here ...
01:09 < rxr> but even if not I would inject that into the X startup script - not into the s
01:09 < rxr> hotplug system
01:10 < rxr> .oO(reworked glibc32 nearly finished)
01:11 < marcd> nothing is integrated in the hot/coldplug system, it should delegate it to handler classes or you call them agents
01:11 < rxr> but - well - that is just a matter of style / personal preferances
01:11 < marcd> so a server install wont have the handler for xorg 
01:15 < jsaw> I'm way too tired... should sleep..
01:15 < jsaw> marcd: I hope you show up here once in a while :)
01:15 < rxr> marcd: is your implementation in production use? or just a prototype ?
01:15 < jsaw> rxr: would you add a "Related Projects" section to hotplug++ page and add marcd's link also?
01:16 < jsaw> <- off now, cu all
01:17 < rxr> jsaw: yes - please remind me - /me busy doing toolchain work right now ...
01:19 < marcd> the PnpManager is in production use for about a year
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01:30 < marcd> night!
01:30 -!- marcd [~marcd@zux176-162.adsl.green.ch] has quit ["Bu Shi Zuo Le Jiu Shi Yi"]
01:30 < rxr> cu
01:38 < rxr>  glibc/glibc.conf     |  127 +++++++++++++++++++++------------------------------
01:38 < rxr>  glibc32/glibc32.conf |   72 +++++++++++++++-------------
01:38 < rxr>  2 files changed, 91 insertions(+), 108 deletions(-)
01:41 < rxr> omg:
01:41 < rxr> I got a system with 8 way Opteron. Every CPU has 16G memory.
01:41 < rxr> 2.6 kernel x86_64, it will crash when it start the Fifth node.
01:41 < rxr> I WANT THIS!!!
01:42 < _Ragnar_> *rofl*
01:42 < _Ragnar_> me too!
01:50 < rxr> look at the mail address: YhLu qt tyan.com
01:50 < rxr> s/qt/at/
01:51 < rxr> and that is on linux-kernel - as if the tyan guys have not enough knowledge to track their next generation hardware problems ....
01:52 < rxr> I thnk I enter sleep mode ...
01:53 < mnemoc> re
01:53 < rxr> hi mnemoc 
01:53 < rxr> do you hit me when I sleep first - and fix the cross build problem after the sleep cycle ?
01:53 < mnemoc> :'(
01:53 < rxr> ok ok - got that ...
01:54 < CIA-9> rene * r6564 /trunk/package/base/glibc32/glibc32.conf: 
01:54 < CIA-9> * decustmained and extremely overworked and fixed glibc32 - still in
01:54 < CIA-9>  testing but magnitudes more usable than the first try present so far
01:54 < rxr> mnemoc: can you take ak look and complain which lines are too ugly ?
01:55 < rxr>  / unreadable
01:55 < CIA-9> amery * r6565 /trunk/package/develop/mono-develop/ (mono-develop.conf mono-develop.desc): 
01:55 < CIA-9> * fixed mono-develop [D] (i forgot .tar.bz2 and module had a trailing /
01:55 < CIA-9> * fixed mono-develop to build from snapshot
01:55 < mnemoc> ok
01:56 < rxr> moment
01:57 < mnemoc> diff looks goot
01:57 < mnemoc> did you removed dietlibc oddities from gcc .conf ?
01:58 < CIA-9> rene * r6566 /trunk/package/base/glibc32/glibc32.conf: 
01:58 < CIA-9> * move prepatch before postmake (for readability)
01:58 < CIA-9> * moved comment to the correct place
01:58 < CIA-9> * removed unused threadsver
01:58 < rxr> I greatly revisited gcc.conf weeks ago ...
01:58 < rxr> do you miss s.th. ?
01:59 < mnemoc> i haven't had my head on thar work :)
01:59 < rxr> my plan is to decustmain gcc.conf, too
01:59 < rxr> binutils is already done
01:59 < mnemoc> glibc_prepatch to match_source_file ?
01:59 < rxr> for binutils just a few lines are left ;-)
01:59 < rxr> no right now
02:00 < mnemoc> :(
02:00 < rxr> okok - then even that
02:01 < mnemoc> :p
02:02 < rxr> "`match_source_file -p linuxthreads`"
02:03 < mnemoc> tarball=
02:03 < rxr> sure
02:03 < mnemoc> afaik "" are not needed
02:03 < rxr> oehm
02:03 < rxr> I keep them ;-)
02:03 < mnemoc> :)
02:04 < CIA-9> rene * r6567 /trunk/package/base/glibc32/glibc32.conf: * due to public demand converted glibc32 to use match_source_file
02:04 < mnemoc> :D
02:04 < rxr> == 00:50:20 =[1]=> Building base/glibc32 [2.3.4 2.1.0-beta4].
02:04  * rxr tea coffee or simillar ...
02:04 < mnemoc> :D
02:05 < mnemoc> OT: pixieplus, a kde-snapshot thing has configure.in.in and configure.in.dot, how do i convert those to samething usefull?
02:06 < rxr> the problem is that the original tarball does not build with recent imagemagic
02:06 < rxr> k
02:06 < rxr> so I started to incooperate the new kdenonbeta thing
02:07 < rxr> however I was not able to preprocess those damn files
02:07 < rxr> you need some kdeadmin module
02:07 < rxr> but this all was a very big pain - so I abondone it ..
02:07 < rxr> maybe we are better off just using the last release and fixing it to build with recent imagemagick versions ourself ...
02:07 < CIA-9> amery * r6568 /trunk/package/base/glibc32/glibc32.conf: * fixed glibc32 usage of match_source_file (it doesn't need $archdir prefix)
02:08 < rxr> ah - damn - have I overlooked that ..
02:09 < mnemoc> :)
02:09 < rxr> can't we rewrite it as:
02:09 < rxr> tarball="`match_source_file -p linuxthreads`" && tar $taropt $tarball
02:09 < rxr> ?
02:10 < mnemoc> i didn't know that $? usage on assignations
02:11 < mnemoc> # foo= ; echo $?
02:11 < mnemoc> 0
02:11 < mnemoc> ]# foo=`false` ; echo $?
02:11 < mnemoc> 1
02:12 < mnemoc> i'll have to make sure match_source_file returns 1 if it finds nothing
02:12 < rxr> yep - please
02:12 < rxr> in the meantime I schedule a && rewrite ...
02:13 < rxr> even withotu all the many applications glibc builds soooo long...
02:14 < rxr> even with ccache enabled on my Athlon XP 2500+ 
02:14 < mnemoc> ]# grep develop config/default/packages | while
02:14 < mnemoc> > foo=bar
02:14 < mnemoc> > done; echo $foo
02:14 < mnemoc> <nothing>
02:14 < mnemoc> damn scoping
02:14 < rxr> ouhm - ok
02:14 < rxr> -> Compiler Cache Hits while pkg build: 1.42% (52 hits, 3619 misses)
02:15 < mnemoc> i would convert it to bash's < <( grep ... )
02:15 < mnemoc> ]# while read x x x x pkg x; do
02:15 < mnemoc> > foo=bar
02:15 < mnemoc> > done < <( grep develop config/default/packages ); echo $foo
02:15 < mnemoc> bar
02:16 < _Ragnar_> yukk
02:16 < _Ragnar_> that's evil
02:17 < rxr> f*ck I see my typo...
02:17 < rxr> hm - no - momement
02:19 < mnemoc> gettext typo?
02:20 < rxr> nope still at glibc
02:25 < rxr> mnemoc: merge: ?
02:25 < CIA-9> rene * r6569 /tags/2.1.0-beta3/package/x11/gatos-km/ (no-uname.patch postlinux.conf): 
02:25 < CIA-9> * fixed gatos-km to install the modules into the correct directory
02:25 < CIA-9>  and not use uname - shiffer
02:27 < rxr> shiver even
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02:27 < rxr> moin ideal 
02:27 < ideal> Hi, rxr.
02:27 < mnemoc> rxr: ok
02:27 < ideal> Happy in the Chinese New Year, the Rooster Year:)
02:29 < ideal> rxr. You know, the past 7 days were the traditional holiday for the Chinese New Year, like Christmas holiday in your country:)
02:31 < mnemoc> ideal: where are you from?
02:32 < ideal> rxr: P.R.China, I think I forgot to tell you about it.
02:32 < ideal> mnemoc: P.R.China, I think I forgot to tell you about it.
02:32 < _Ragnar_> ^_^
02:33 < ideal> Hi, Ragnar:)
02:33  * _Ragnar_ wants a shell there ;)))
02:33 < mnemoc> it's very cool to see someone from china here! :)
02:33 < ideal> mnemoc: Thanks for that.
02:35 < CIA-9> amery * r6570 /trunk/scripts/functions: * changed match_source_file to return true/false if found something or not
02:35 < mnemoc> are you using T2?
02:36 < rxr> == 01:35:46 =[1]=> Building base/glibc [2.3.4 2.1.0-beta4].
02:43 < rxr> ok - I merge the gatos fix into trunk
02:44 < mnemoc> i'll do it
02:44 < mnemoc> keep hacking :)
02:44 < rxr> hm - now I already run the merge
02:44 < mnemoc> ok :)
02:44  * rxr waiting for various glibc builds to finish
02:45 < CIA-9> rene * r6571 /trunk/package/x11/gatos-km/ (no-uname.patch postlinux.conf): 
02:45 < CIA-9> * merged r6569 from tags/2.1.0-beta3 into trunk:
02:45 < CIA-9>  * fixed gatos-km to install the modules into the correct directory
02:45 < CIA-9>  and not use uname - shiver
02:45 < _Ragnar_> that may be a while ;)
02:46 < rxr> yeah - where a single glibc build takes longer than my psion-pda target as a whole ...
02:47 < rxr> btw. I still search for a tiny shell whith history and tab completion support
02:48 < mnemoc> i'll try to see what dash needs to be patched
02:49 < rxr> but dash looks strange
02:49 < rxr> some set -o vi or so to get into editing mode
02:49 < mnemoc> good... imlib2-1.2.0 finally building
02:49 < rxr> I want some normal to use shell - no yet another shell + vi variant ...
02:50 < mnemoc> editing mode on a shell??
02:50 < rxr> at least the man page tells so
02:50 < rxr> have not seen it working ...
02:51 < mnemoc> but if you don't set -o vi it may act as a normal bourne shell, isn't it?
02:52 < rxr> no idea ..
03:05 < rxr> hm - shoudl I save about 10EUR / month and get a faster DSL but pay the money to telecom italy ... ?
03:05 < rxr> == 02/16/05 02:05:19 =[1]=> Finished building package glibc.
03:08 < mnemoc> 10EUR/month + speed vs. pay to an italian?
03:08 < rxr> well - I do not like feeding this Berlusconi (--typos) variants ...
03:09 < rxr> do not knwo what kind of news you get about him over there ...
03:09 < mnemoc> do you prefer to pay more for less than paying to an italian company?
03:10 < mnemoc> does Berlusconi owns telecom italy?
03:10 < rxr> the problem is not some foreign company ...
03:11 < rxr> just that I do not like "support" some strange currupt, law changing for his good and so one guy ...
03:12 < mnemoc> do you think telecom italy "support" him?
03:13 < mnemoc> most business people have their presidents :)
03:13 < mnemoc> hate*
03:13 < rxr> well berlusconi is a business man ...
03:13 < rxr> owning quite as much as half italy ...
03:13 < rxr> AFAICS
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03:14 < mnemoc> oh
03:14 < _Ragnar_> that's quite like saying rupert murdoch is a businessman
03:14 < CIA-9> rene * r6572 /trunk/scripts/Build-Pkg: * added lib64 to the list of root directories
03:19 < rxr>  At the time of writing, Telecom Italia was 17%-owned by the Olimpia SpA holding company, itself controlled a variety of influential Italian businesses and families, such as Pirelli, Benetton, Edizione Finance International, Silvio Berlusconi-controlled Hopa, Banco Intesa, and Unicredito. In December 2004, however, the boards of directors of Telecom Italia and Telecom Italia's 56%-owned subsidiary, Telecom Italia Mobile (TIM) approved a plan for the integration of the two companies with the objective of simplifying the Group's ownership structure as well as the optimisation of the financial and capital structures of the Group resulting from the merger.
03:20 < mnemoc> 100%/6 of 17%
03:20 < mnemoc> but yes, you give money to him
03:21 < mnemoc> aaarg... i can't understand what is happening to imlib2
03:21 < rxr> well - not as bad as I feared ...
03:22 < mnemoc> :)
03:24 < rxr> my next box must be a dual opteron ...
03:26 < mnemoc> :)
03:26 < rxr> at least ..
03:26 < rxr> quad welcome
03:26 < mnemoc> :D
03:32 < CIA-9> rene * r6573 /trunk/package/base/glibc/glibc.conf: 
03:32 < CIA-9> * migrated glibc to custmain-less configuration file likewise (stage
03:32 < CIA-9>  0/1 cross build tested)
03:32 < mnemoc> :)
03:36 < mnemoc> usr/share/texmf-var/ls-R: latex2html tetex
03:37 < rxr> I think it should be owned by tetex ...
03:38 < rxr> mnemoc: I think I go to bed in some seconds and rather look into your issue as first thing when I get up ...
03:38 < mnemoc> ok :) gn8 rxr
03:40 < rxr> mom - I'm not yet gone*
03:40 < rxr> g*
03:44 < mnemoc> :)
03:48 < CIA-9> rene * r6574 /trunk/package/base/ (glibc/glibc.conf glibc32/glibc32.conf): 
03:48 < CIA-9> * indent and unify the glibc configuration files to make diffing
03:48 < CIA-9>  and reading easier
03:48 < CIA-9> * fixed a "confopt" typo in glibc32
03:49 < rxr> mnemoc: I guess we come back to the ground in the stats, or do you think I need to rescale the graph ? ;-)
03:51 < mnemoc> keep it as is
03:53 < mnemoc> conropt?
03:53 < mnemoc> btw, shouldn't that go to extraconfopt?
04:02 < rxr> I don't care where it is in ...
04:06 < mnemoc> confopt gets destroyed on set_confopt :p
04:06 < rxr> I know
04:07 < mnemoc> weren't you sleeping?
04:07 < rxr> but then we would need to change nearly every package to fix this ...
04:07 < rxr> yeah - nearly ...
04:07 < rxr> prepared for bed - read a page in a book
04:07 < rxr> and started a sparc64 build ...
04:15 < rxr> cool
04:16 < rxr> now glibc32 basically works and matches what the toolchain wants
04:16 < rxr> just some headers are intalled that shoudl not and from some strange reason there is a Makefile bug when building programs is disabled
04:16 < rxr> I fix this after sleep 
04:16 < rxr> as well as your cross build problem mn	
04:16 < rxr> mnemoc: 
04:16 < rxr> n8 all
04:17 < mnemoc> n8 rxr 
04:30 < CIA-9> amery * r6575 /trunk/package/mail/courier-authlib/ (. courier-authlib.desc): * added courier-authlib (0.54)
04:33 < CIA-9> amery * r6576 /trunk/package/develop/mono/mono.desc: * updated mono (1.1.3 -> 1.1.4)
04:44 < CIA-9> amery * r6577 /trunk/package/games/barrage/barrage.desc: * updated barrage (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2)
04:53 < CIA-9> amery * r6578 /trunk/package/mail/courier-imap/courier-imap.desc: * updated courier-imap (3.0.7 -> 4.0.1)
04:59 < CIA-9> amery * r6579 /trunk/package/network/ezipupdate/ezipupdate.desc: * added CV-URL for ezipupdate
04:59 < CIA-9> amery * r6580 /trunk/package/network/hping/hping.desc: * added CV-URL for hping
05:00 < CIA-9> amery * r6581 /trunk/package/multimedia/dvb-apps/dvb-apps.desc: * fixed CV-URL for dvb-apps
05:02 < CIA-9> amery * r6582 /trunk/package/ (3 files in 3 dirs): * added CV-URL for transconnect, openobex and biblestudy
05:03 < CIA-9> amery * r6583 /trunk/package/multimedia/mjpegtools/mjpegtools.desc: * fixed mjpegtools download url
05:28 < CIA-9> amery * r6584 /trunk/package/multimedia/dvdauthor/ (dvdauthor.desc gcc34.patch): * updated dvdauthor (0.6.10 -> 0.6.11)
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08:04 < jeru> good morning mipe :) everithing fine in suomi?
08:05 < mipe> :)
08:05 < mipe> its cold in here
08:07 < jeru> what's cold for you - in berlin it's shortly under zero degree ... but that's cold for most of us ;)
08:07 < mipe> atm moment its -20 degrees, actually last winter was colder, having -35 degrees for two weeks
08:08 < mipe> sucks for them who has to work outside :)
08:08 < jeru> ohh ... my uncle in sverige is everytime laughing about 'our' temperatures
08:11 < jeru> the last time I experienced -20/-30 degree here is more than 20 years ago
08:12 < mipe> wow
08:13 < jeru> hmmm ... I think something is going on with the world climate (as all of us know :(
08:14 < mipe> yeah, this winter has been somewhat strange than normally, more plus degree days than normally
08:14 < jeru> so how do you progress with your AMD64 build?
08:14 < mipe> fixing glibc32,its still conflicting with glibc
08:15 < mipe> it builds but doesnt install propely
08:15 < jeru> sh*t :|
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08:25 < mipe|java_class> at school :(
08:25 < jeru> have to go to work now :(
08:26 < _Ragnar_> ~.~.~.
08:26 < _Ragnar_> eepas
08:27 < jeru> shool was cool ... if I remeber
08:28 < jeru> but of course it's now a different point of view ;)
08:28 < jeru> hi ragnar
08:28 < _Ragnar_> hey
08:29 < jeru> you're also from chile?
08:29 < jeru> because 'hey' means hello on swedish
08:29 < jeru> ;)
08:35 < _Ragnar_> naw I'm german
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10:23 < mipe> yay,glibc32 doesnt install lib and include files to wrong dir, so thats fixed, but it fails on:
10:23 < mipe> install: cannot stat `/t2/t2-trunk/src.glibc32.1108544695.9052.7f0100/glibc-2.3.
10:23 < mipe> 4/objdir/iconv/iconv_prog': No such file or directory
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10:42 < mipe> what happends if i have two hook_add premake $x " ", and $x been same number,x is just priority right? but both hooks get called when x been same number?
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11:17 < rxr_> mipe: yes - I know this error - that is where I decided to go into bed last last
11:17 < rxr_> night
11:17 -!- You're now known as rxr
11:17 < rxr> hi jeru 
11:17 < jeru> rxr: bonjour
11:18 < jeru> rxr: didn't you received my mail regarding UPS?
11:18 < rxr> yeah ... I did ...
11:18 < jeru> bu ,) ?
11:18 < jeru> but
11:20 < mipe> rxr:can we bluff glibc32 with touch iconv/iconv_prog?
11:21 < rxr> mipe: I need to read what the Makefile stuff wants to do there ...
11:39 < rxr> IT: SHA-1 Broken
12:21 < mipe> rxr:any progress?
12:23 < rxr> nope - /me hacking on glibc - but it is so ugly ...
12:23 < rxr> and the makefiles run so long when rerun even on my XP 2500+ ...
12:50 < mipe> hmm,how do i make it not call install,rather i want it to call install-lib
12:50 < rxr> I also just changed it to that, too
12:50 < rxr> yesterday it did not work this way
12:50 < rxr> and might need further changes
12:51 < rxr> -var_append makeinstopt " " "slibdir=/\$slibdir install_root=\$root"
12:51 < rxr> +makeinstopt="\$makeopt install_root=\$root install-libs"
12:51 < mipe> i also added libdir=/\$slibdir to makeopt and makeinstopt, it only had slibdir,and it wanted to install libs to lib and not lib32
12:52 < rxr> well - you need them in lib if you do not want to patch glibc and be LHS/LSB conform
12:53 < mipe> ah,ic
13:02 < mipe> hmm,host just went crazy...
13:05 < CIA-9> rene * r6585 /trunk/package/base/glibc32/glibc32.conf: * fixed glibc32 to run install-lib
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13:09 < rxr> damn
13:10 < rxr> !> Did you run ./scripts/Download for this package?
13:10 < rxr> !> No 0-glibc.log file.
13:10 < rxr> -> $root/var/adm/logs/0-glibc.out -> 0-glibc.err
13:10 < rxr> == 02/16/05 04:10:29 =[0]=> Aborted building package glibc.
13:10 < rxr> again cycles wasted on the SPARC ...
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13:50 < mnemoc> moin
13:51 < rxr> moin
13:51 < rxr> mnemoc: glibc32 finished ...
13:51 < mnemoc> :D
13:51 < mnemoc> great
13:51 < mnemoc> that was the most dirty package we had
13:52 < rxr> glibc? or the 32 ?
13:52 < mnemoc> glibc
13:52 < mnemoc> does gcc work fine with 64/32 for everything?
13:52 < rxr> no idea - it builds *g* so far ..
13:53 < mnemoc> :D
13:53 < rxr> and according to the gcc source parts it should work
13:53 < rxr> source parts I 've seen so far
13:53 < mnemoc> :)
13:53 < mnemoc> have you been able to look into 1-gettext problem?
13:54 < rxr> it is scheduled for right now
13:54 < rxr> that is now that glibc32 builds ;-)
13:55 < rxr> need to commit one header instal wrapper tweak though
13:56 < jeru> hi mnemoc
13:56 < mnemoc> hi jeru 
13:57 < rxr> hi jeru 
14:03 < mnemoc> how are your beta3 tests going?
14:04 < rxr> oh well
14:04 < rxr> showstoppers are fixed ...
14:05 < mnemoc> btw, somehow linux24/alsa-driver problem got solved. did you hacked something related to uname there?
14:06 < rxr> oehm - no, not in the last days
14:06 < rxr> worked for me so far
14:07 < mnemoc> :|
14:07 < CIA-9> amery * r6586 /trunk/package/database/sqlite/sqlite.desc: * updated sqlite (3.0.8 -> 3.1.2)
14:08 < CIA-9> amery * r6587 /trunk/package/database/sqlite2/sqlite2.desc: * updated sqlite2 (2.8.15 -> 2.8.16)
14:09 < mnemoc> rxr: will marcd join you wil hotplug++?
14:16 < rxr> mnemoc: when you say glibc was so ugly - is the current rewrite ok ?
14:17 < mnemoc> yep
14:17 < mnemoc> you did a good work there :)
14:33 < rxr> thanks
14:37 < rxr> next gcc?
14:50 < CIA-9> rene * r6588 /trunk/package/base/glibc32/glibc32.conf: * fixed glibc32 to not install headers
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14:57 < mnemoc> rxr: sure.... we need a clean toolchain to be able to do further debuging over it
14:58 < mnemoc> rxr: can you move gcc/dietlibc oddities to dietlibc's parse-config or pkg_gcc_post.conf
14:58 < mnemoc> ?
14:58 < rxr> yep - I schedule those ...
14:58 < rxr> first your gettext problem ...
15:00 < mnemoc> if you can fix gettext first, much better
15:12 < rxr> huh?
15:12 < rxr> "ANLIB" /usr/src/t2-arm/build/amd64-2.1.0-beta4-x86-64-cross-generic"/refix"/lib
15:12 < rxr> /libBrokenLocale.a
15:12 < rxr> /bin/sh: ANLIB: command not found
15:12 < rxr> ^- where did this come from ...
15:13 < rxr> was not there some minutes ago ...
15:14 < mnemoc> ANLIB???
15:14 < rxr> ^- R missing ?
15:14 < mnemoc> and the $
15:14 < mnemoc> Objective-C Foundation Classes 0.5.0  <--- does this affect us?
15:14 < rxr> no
15:15 < mnemoc> "/refix"/ <--- is this $prefix ?
15:15 < rxr> where is that from?
15:16 < mnemoc> "ANLIB" /usr/src/t2-arm/build/amd64-2.1.0-beta4-x86-64-cross-generic"/refix"/lib
15:18 < rxr> ?
15:18 < mnemoc> you pasted that
15:19 < mnemoc> with ANLIB instead of $RANLIB and refix instead of $prefix
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15:53 < mnemoc> rxr: any reason to not have {pre,post}make for python apps?
15:53 < rxr> nope
15:54 < mnemoc> ok
16:05 < rxr> this glibc is getting on my nerves
16:06 < mnemoc> what now?
16:07 < rxr> strange above makefile fluff that did not show up before
16:12 < CIA-9> rene * r6589 /trunk/package/base/glibc32/glibc32.conf: * fixed glibc32 to actaully really build (over quoting)
16:12 < CIA-9> amery * r6590 /trunk/package/gnue/ (6 files in 6 dirs): * cleanup gnue-* packages to only source gnue-common.conf from a single [O] line
16:13 < mnemoc> rxr: what do you think about doing 6590 to gnome, kde, etc... ? and remove lot of .conf files
16:14 < mnemoc> uhm
16:14 < mnemoc> -makeinstopt="\$makeopt install_root=\$root install-lib"
16:14 < mnemoc> +makeinstopt="$makeopt install_root=\$root install-lib"
16:14 < mnemoc> isn't it expanded on runtime???
16:14 < mnemoc> that is done in many many places
16:14 < rxr> depends how often it is evaluated ...
16:15 < rxr> the real problem is that $makeopt already includes quoted variables - an only one quoting is removed per eval - which leaves:
16:15 < rxr> RANLIN=$ranlib
16:16 < rxr> when the Makefile is executed intead of RANLIN=x86-64-...-ranlib
16:16 < mnemoc> yes, i just noticed you only de-quoted $makeopt
16:16 < rxr> all the other .conf files are correct
16:19 < mnemoc> grep -R '\\$makeopt' package/*; grep -R '\\$confopt' package/*; grep -R '\\$extraconfopt' package/*
16:19 < rxr> and?
16:19 < rxr> many ?
16:19 < mnemoc> only glibc32 until now
16:21 < mnemoc> grep -R '\\$\(makeopt\|confopt\|extraconfopt\)' package/* is a bit faster :p
16:21 < mnemoc> package/perl/perl/perl.conf:hook_add preconf 2  "( rm -f config.sh Policy.sh; sh Configure \$confopt; )"
16:21 < rxr> your problem was gettext, yep ?
16:21 < rxr> can  you send me the log ?
16:21 < mnemoc> ok
16:25 < mnemoc> 1-gettext only or a tarball with all of them?
16:25 < rxr> gettext ...
16:25 < rxr> and where does the error happen? 2 s.th.?
16:25 < mnemoc> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/1-gettext.log
16:26 < mnemoc> 2-binutils
16:26 < mnemoc> when it tries to execute gettext
16:28 < rxr> # time svn up
16:28 < rxr> Updated to revision 6590.
16:28 < rxr> real    5m32.799s
16:28 < rxr> user    0m6.209s
16:28 < rxr> sys     0m4.418s
16:28 < mnemoc> if you need to do tests, give me your pubkey
16:28 < rxr> my sparc @ thy uni seems busy ...
16:28 < mnemoc> oh
16:29 < rxr> load average: 4.11, 4.50, 3.42
16:29 < mnemoc> <mnemoc> rxr: what do you think about doing 6590 to gnome, kde, etc... ? and remove lot of dummy .conf files?
16:31 < mnemoc> # time svn up
16:31 < mnemoc> U  package/base/glibc32/glibc32.conf
16:31 < mnemoc> Updated to revision 6590.
16:31 < mnemoc> real    1m58.050s
16:52 < mnemoc> finally my patches on sm got applied!!
16:53 < mnemoc> you can't imagine how motivated to send new ones am i
16:55 < rxr> ??ßß
16:55 < rxr> hey - my x86-64 cross build progresses
16:56 < mnemoc> i had 4 pending patches on submaster, which just got applied after...  a month?
16:56 < mnemoc> that really motivates me to keep my packages there updated
16:57 < rxr> well - we should label trunk 2.1 so you can keep installing it ;-)
16:58 < mnemoc> *g*
17:02 < rxr> notify me when your build hits the gettext problem
17:02 < mnemoc> ok
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17:21 < jeru> back from nap ;)
17:21 < rxr> hehe - hi jeru 
17:22 < jeru> hi rxr ;)
17:23 < jeru> something new regarding the battery pack?
17:23 < rxr> nope
17:23  * rxr was hacking
17:24 < jeru> ;) that's good ;)
17:30 < mnemoc> rxr: 6591 needs a comment
17:30 < mnemoc> from you
17:30 < CIA-9> amery * r6591 /trunk/ (Documentation/Developers/PKG-BUILD-VARS scripts/Build-Pkg): * introduced flistvalid, a list of directories where the build is allowed to write without getting 'outside basedir' error
17:31 < rxr> ouhm
17:32 < mnemoc> it's to be able to add $HOME/.distcc as a valid dir
17:33 < mnemoc> on distcc's parse-config
17:35 < rxr> I imagined
17:36 < rxr> maybe we should just fix distcc to not let lingering files around
17:37 < mnemoc> yes, that's the best way to solve the problem
17:38 < rxr> Updated to revision 6591.
17:38 < rxr> real	2m4.775s
17:38 < rxr> user	0m12.039s
17:38 < rxr> sys	0m6.568s
17:38 < rxr> ^- my home sparc ...
17:40 < mnemoc> oh
17:41 < rxr> it was really outdated
17:41 < rxr> a 2nd run:
17:41 < rxr> real	0m11.196s
17:41 < rxr> user	0m3.768s
17:41 < rxr> sys	0m0.687s
17:42 < mnemoc> :)
17:42 < mnemoc> OT: have you used ddd? how is it?
17:42 < rxr> sucks ..
17:42 < mnemoc> ok :)
17:45 < mnemoc> how the /go gnue
17:45 < mnemoc> err
17:53 < CIA-9> amery * r6592 /trunk/scripts/Build-Pkg: * fixed flistvalid declaration to add $xbase after it's defined
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17:54  * rxr decustmaining gcc
17:56 < mnemoc> to u== 13:50:42 =[1]=> Building base/linux26 [2.6.10 2.1.0-beta4]. <--- on the machine where you can debug 1-gettext
17:58 < mnemoc> rxr: shouldn't egrep -v "($flistvalid)/"  have a heading '^' ?
18:14 < rxr>  gcc/gcc.conf        |  190 +++++++++++++---------------------------------------
18:14 < rxr> and more to strip down ;-)
18:15 < mnemoc> oh
18:15 < mnemoc> i'll go to lunch
18:16 < jeru> as everyday good appetitev ;D
18:17 < mnemoc> :) you too
18:17 < jeru> I had already ... you know timezones ;)
18:17 < jeru> but thank you ;)
18:18 < CIA-9> amery * r6593 /trunk/scripts/functions: * fixed build_this_package to run {pre,post}make for python builds
18:19 < CIA-9> amery * r6594 /trunk/package/base/runit/packages/ (8 files): * renamed runit's gnue-appserver init files to match what install runtine is expecting
18:19 < mnemoc> jeru: dinner? :p
18:21 < jeru> not yet ;|
18:40 < rxr>  
18:40 < rxr>  
18:40 < rxr>   ELF statifier 1.6.3 
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18:47 < rxr> hi jsaw 
18:50 < jsaw> hi rxr
18:50 < _Ragnar_> moin
18:51 < jsaw> hi _Ragnar_ 
18:51 < jsaw> rxr: would be nice if you find a few seconds to look at the hotplug++ code and give me a few tips, I'm not really _that_ good in C++...
18:52 < rxr> oh - ok
18:53 < jsaw> but not necessarily today... :) I catched a flu or whatever...and slept the whole day... :|
18:55 < jsaw> rxr: btw, the speed is amazing, my ~10 PCI devices are scanned (coldplug) in around 1sec. Rockplug takes a bit less than a sec per device...
18:56 < rxr> yes - I know - the bash grep code is slow like h*** ...
18:57 < _Ragnar_> ^_^
19:00 < jsaw> yep
19:05 < rxr> mnemoc's dream is to use hotplug++ for 2.1 ...
19:05 < rxr> jsaw: you also rather target 2.2 ?
19:14 < jsaw> due to thesis+exams+2nd child... I target 2.2
19:14 < jsaw> dinner, brb
19:31 < rxr> gcc.conf |  352 +++++++++++++++++++++++----------------------------------------
19:31 < rxr>  1 files changed, 132 insertions(+), 220 deletions(-)
19:34 < _Ragnar_> ouch
19:34 < _Ragnar_> SHA-1 is cracked
19:41 -!- freddy [~pitti@pD9E768CC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2
19:41 < freddy> hi all
19:41 < rxr> hi freddy 
19:42 < freddy> hi rxr
19:46 < rxr> freddy: how is your life?
19:46 < freddy> good good
19:54 < rxr> freddy: look at this amazing stats:
19:54 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/big.png
19:55 < freddy> wow
19:55 < freddy> i check my stats
19:56 < freddy> Erster Zugriff 	01.02.2005 - 00:26
19:56 < freddy>  Letzter Zugriff 	12.02.2005 - 10:16    64GB
19:56 < freddy> and now
19:57 < freddy> 01.02.2005 - 16.02.2005  73GB
19:57 < CIA-9> rene * r6595 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/ (gets.patch pkg_gcc_post.conf): 
19:57 < CIA-9> * moved the dietlibc config option tweaking out of the gcc.conf
19:57 < CIA-9>  into a dietlibc specific file
19:58 < rxr> freddy: 73 GB just T2 or the whole nexus?
19:58 < freddy> the whole nexus
19:58 < rxr> freddy: when you are here ;-) How log is the tfh open these days? Only until 18.oo ?
19:59 < freddy> yeap
20:00 < rxr> no special times due to ini room relocation ?
20:01 < freddy> *.bz2 11GB  *.iso 55GB
20:03 < rxr> :-)
20:03 < rxr> we'll release -beta3 tomorrow (I hope)
20:03 < rxr> and -beta4 next week
20:03 < rxr> so the .iso will jump up a lot ;-)
20:04 < freddy> hehe 
20:04 < _Ragnar_> =)
20:05 < rxr>  gcc.conf |  381 ++++++++++++++++++++++-----------------------------------------
20:05 < rxr>  1 files changed, 139 insertions(+), 242 deletions(-)
20:35 < mnemoc> re
20:35 < _Ragnar_> re
20:39 < freddy> re
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20:40 < c4y0> hi!!!!!!!
20:40 < c4y0> =)
20:41 < mnemoc> hi c4y0 
21:01 < c4y0> im back! =)
21:02 < mnemoc> :)
21:03 < c4y0> what filesystem do you prefer in the host machine to obtain the best performance creating some build?
21:03  * rxr reiserfs
21:04 < c4y0> i was using ext3 and my machine crash after 72 hours building :(
21:04 < rxr> that is not ext3 related
21:04 < mnemoc> even xfs is better than ext3 :)
21:04 < rxr> either general kernel bug, imperfect hardware driver or instable hardware
21:07 < CIA-9> amery * r6596 /trunk/package/base/runit/ (djb-config parse-config runit.conf): * fixed runit to not write outside basedir, try one.
21:12 < CIA-9> rene * r6597 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/pkg_gcc_post.conf: * moved more dietlibc quirks out of the primary gcc.conf
21:14 < rxr> cc.conf |  376 ++++++++++++++++++++++-----------------------------------------
21:14 < rxr>  1 files changed, 132 insertions(+), 244 deletions(-)
21:15  * rxr in dead code elemination mode
21:17 < mnemoc> rxr: my flistvalid seems to be stricter than the previous code, now it detected "outside basedir" i have never seen before
21:19 < rxr> hm
21:19 < rxr> if they are real it would be really great ...
21:20  * mnemoc in hunting mode
21:20 < _Ragnar_> ;)
21:21 < mnemoc> :)
21:21 < _Ragnar_> if building wouldn't take forever ...;p
21:24 < CIA-9> rene * r6598 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/dietlibc.conf: 
21:24 < CIA-9> * fixed dietlibc for cross builds on powerpc (due to the other
21:24 < CIA-9>  ppc name hotfix already creating a directory)
21:26 < mnemoc> .oO( we will have beta4 ready before announcing beta3 :p )o
21:26 < rxr> yep
21:26 < _Ragnar_> 8)
21:26 < rxr> more or less
21:26 < rxr> I plan to announce -beta3 tomorrow
21:27 < rxr> and -beta4 most probably goes out next week ...
21:27 < mnemoc> tagging on sunday i guess
21:28 < rxr> I try to get a c++ cross compiler out of gcc on the way
21:29 < mnemoc> oh
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21:32 < mnemoc> rxr: i'm not sure if adding the heading / to \$${foo}dir was a good idea, now almost everything is build/foo//usr/blah
21:33 < _Ragnar_> *g*
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21:37 < rxr> otherwise some occurances would have become relative
21:37 < rxr> that would be 
21:37 < rxr> more intrusive ...
21:38 < rxr> and we always had double slashes here and there ..
21:38 < rxr> feel free to clean some up ...
21:40 < CIA-9> rene * r6599 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/pkg_gcc_post.conf: * only inject a diet prepared cc after stage 0
21:41 < mnemoc> rxr: ok
21:41 < rxr> but do not waste too much time on it ...
21:43 < CIA-9> ragnar * r6600 /trunk/package/x11/fox/fox.desc: * update (1.4.4 -> 1.4.5)
21:44 < mnemoc> i wont :)
21:50 < rxr> btw I just udpate xorg (to the single file version)
21:50 < rxr> and remvoe the hardcoded srctar and versions in the .conf files
22:05 < mnemoc> .oO
22:07 < rxr> why oO ?
22:08 < mnemoc> thing is putting me in troubles on runit' conf and parse-config
22:08 < mnemoc> / thing*
22:08 < rxr> why ?
22:08 < mnemoc> ${root}$target is ok when target != '', but not when target=''
22:10 < mnemoc> and parts of the hackery seems to have troubles with //
22:14 < rxr>  gcc.conf |  351 ++++++++++++++++++---------------------------------------------
22:14 < rxr>  1 files changed, 105 insertions(+), 246 deletions(-)
22:15 < mnemoc> [17:14:16] <rxr>  1 files changed, 132 insertions(+), 244 deletions(-)
22:15 < mnemoc> it seems to be on diet :)
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22:29 < rxr> interesting - yet again an error message I never saw so far
22:29 < rxr> sparc64/strcat.S:73: Error: Illegal operands: invalid ASI expression
22:31 < mnemoc> o_O
22:31 < rxr> oh - sooner or later I'll find whats wrong ...
22:32 < mnemoc> with a clean .conf that's much easier
22:38 < CIA-9> amery * r6601 /trunk/scripts/Build-Pkg: * fixed flist's basedir validation to force strict match
22:41 < mnemoc> rxr: cp -vf $root$( readlink ${pkg_djb_commanddir}/runit ) $root/$sbindir/ <--- this is a dirty stage-1 hack :p
22:46 < CIA-9> amery * r6602 /trunk/package/base/runit/ (djb-config runit.conf): * fixed runit to install correctly on stage-1
22:48 < _Ragnar_> bbl, lunch
22:48 < mnemoc> rxr: 2-binutils failed on _that_ machine, it's all yours
22:48 < rxr> hehe - ok
22:48  * rxr logging in
22:50  * mnemoc dettached
22:51 < mnemoc> .oO( the graph shows rock's averages again )o
22:51 -!- pitti_ is now known as freddy
22:52 < rxr> but I will have evening lunch soon - so fixing might be delayed by 30 min
22:52 < mnemoc> no problem
22:52 < mnemoc> but will that be today?
22:52 < mnemoc> today=before next sunrise
22:53 -!- freddy is now known as freed
22:53 < mnemoc> freed?
22:53 < freed> yeap?
22:54 < mnemoc> what are you freed from?
22:54 < mnemoc> of*
22:55 < CIA-9> amery * r6603 /trunk/package/multimedia/live/live.desc: * updated live (2005.02.09 -> 2005.02.14)
22:55 < CIA-9> amery * r6604 /trunk/package/base/lvm2/lvm2.desc: * updated lvm2 (2.01.03 -> 2.01.04)
22:57 < freed> place for mirroring t2
22:59 < rxr> mnemoc: yes
23:00 < mnemoc> rxr: go to lunch!
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23:04 < rxr> wow - more snow the next days?!?!?
23:04 < mnemoc> snow? what is that?
23:05 < jeru> mnemoc: we can send you some ;) 
23:05 < rxr> hehe - this frozen but lof water *g*
23:05 < rxr> loft
23:05 < rxr> soft 
23:05 < rxr> whatever ;-)
23:05 < mnemoc> :D
23:05 < rxr> can't remember a winter where we had that much snow - especially in february ...
23:07 < jeru> I told mipe this morning that I can remember winters with temp. betwenn -20 -35 degree
23:08 < jeru> but its more than 20 years ago :) when I was quite small ;)
23:09 < jeru> so have to sleep now ... zzzZZZZZ good night ;) 
23:09 < mnemoc> gn8 jeru 
23:10 < jeru> good appetite mnemoc aka the beast ;)
23:10 < jeru> bye bye
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23:18 < CIA-9> rene * r6605 /trunk/package/base/glibc/glibc.conf: 
23:18 < CIA-9> * fixed the new custmainless glibc to install all needed files in
23:18 < CIA-9>  stage 1
23:19 < rxr> mnemoc: you missthe .. alias on your machine :-(
23:19 < rxr> how can you work wihtout it ?
23:20 < mnemoc> uhm?
23:20 < mnemoc> of course i have 'alias'
23:20 < mnemoc> aaa... you mean '..'
23:21 < mnemoc> i'm used to cd .. and cd -  :)
23:21 < mnemoc> cd - is my favorite
23:28  * rxr rebuilding 1-glibc on your box ...
23:28  * rxr hoping all goes well ... 
23:35 < mnemoc> no problem, the office is closed at this hour :p
23:36 < rxr> hehe
23:36 < mnemoc> and delayed mail delivery wont be noticed neither 
23:37 < mnemoc> rxr: if you know how to remove svn-auth cache, do commits directly from there
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23:37 < rxr> sure I know ;-)
23:38 < mnemoc> :)
23:38 < CIA-9> amery * r6606 /trunk/package/develop/distcc/config-200.hlp: * added DISTCC_HOSTS delimiter info on distcc's help
23:40 < CIA-9> amery * r6607 /trunk/package/develop/distcc/parse-config: * improved distcc parse-config by adding $HOME/.distcc as a valid flist prefix because it gets created and populated the first time you run it and some files are abandoned there too
23:44 < rxr> http://www.botchco.com/alex/dualhead/
23:45  * mnemoc looks for nvidia and cries
23:46 < rxr> never buy a nivida card
23:46 < rxr> the next card on my side is most probably (hopefully) the open graphic card as posted on our list
23:48 < rxr> mnemoc: why don't you run a SMP kernel on your hyper threading P4 ?
23:48 < mnemoc> afaik that machine is not HT
23:48 < rxr> hm - the /etc/cpuinfo flags list "ht" - isn't that Hyper Threading ?
23:49 < mnemoc> oh
23:49 < mnemoc> i didn't notice that 
23:50 < rxr> I nearly don't have Intel hardware
23:50 < rxr> only AMD - so I did not follow that details too closely ...
23:50 < mnemoc> expect was repackaged :|
23:50 < rxr> I only brought one Intel box (aside from a low-end laptop) in my life - which was a P I @120
23:51 < mnemoc> :)
23:51 < rxr> all the other Intels got to me for free ...
23:51 < mnemoc> i have always had intel processors
23:51 < rxr> and the fastest is only a PII @450 - which is in the uni as gsmp.tfh-berlin.de ... ;-)
23:51 < mnemoc> :D
23:52 < rxr> == 02/16/05 19:52:16 =[1]=> Finished building package glibc.
23:53 < mnemoc> rxr: do you have expect-5.43.0.tar.bz2 already on your mirrors?
23:53 < rxr> I guess
23:53 < mnemoc> -[D] 977095280 expect-5.43.0.tar.gz http://expect.nist.gov/old/
23:53 < mnemoc> +[D] 2904149396 expect-5.43.0.tar.gz http://expect.nist.gov/old/
23:54 < rxr> don't inject it ;-)
23:54 < rxr> or add an -1 ...
23:55 < mnemoc> ok
23:55 < mnemoc> -1 :D
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23:57 < CIA-9> amery * r6608 /trunk/package/develop/expect/expect.desc: * updated expect (5.43.0 -> 5.43.0-1), it was repackaged but no diff
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