--- Log opened Fri Jan 07 00:00:46 2005 00:07 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@64.237.130.154] has joined #t2 01:40 -!- tschmidt_ [~tschmidt@p508EBDA1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:51 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.37] has joined #t2 01:54 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.42] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 02:07 < mnemoc> rehi! 02:22 -!- CIA-10 [~CIA@to.je.spocco.com] has joined #t2 02:24 < jsaw> hi mnemoc 02:28 < mnemoc> hi jsaw 02:51 -!- rxr_ [~rene@p213.54.194.178.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 02:51 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta2 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Enviroments (SDE) | http://www.exactcode.de/t2 02:51 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Tue Dec 28 14:55:44 2004] 02:51 [Users #t2] 02:51 [ _Ragnar_] [ daja77] [ jsaw ] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly] 02:51 [ CIA-10 ] [ ideal ] [ mnemoc] [ praenti] [ rxr_] [ valentin ] 02:51 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal] 02:51 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 02:51 -!- [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 02:51 < mnemoc> being able to easily plug a different stage2 fetcher and a different installer 02:51 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 11 secs 02:51 < mnemoc> every built with diet or uclibc choosen on Config 02:52 < mnemoc> Config may also ask for "subdistribution info" and a default url to fetch stage2 and packages if network is choosen 02:52 < mnemoc> network option choosen on runtime 02:52 < mnemoc> comments? 02:53 < mnemoc> nfs mounting as a supported package fetching method too 02:54 < jsaw> I always disliked hardcoded stages to load... is that enough of a comment? 02:54 < mnemoc> hardcoded stageS? 02:55 < mnemoc> i think i can put every tool on initrd and only fetch kernel modules 02:56 < mnemoc> can i somehow analize my machine and remotely ask only for the modules i need? 02:56 < jsaw> (hardcoded names in linuxrc.c) 02:57 < jsaw> mnemoc: we have to start working on the hwplug thing... 02:58 < mnemoc> any aditional comment to that uboot idea? 03:04 -!- rxr [~rene@213.54.194.237] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:06 < jsaw> assuming you have url, where a couple of different builds are stored, it would be nice, if this thing would present a list, which one you want to install. 03:08 < mnemoc> that's the idea, get the list, ask for choise, select packages and install 03:09 < jsaw> go for it! 03:09 < mnemoc> ok 03:10 < mnemoc> OT: did syslinux-3.02 built for you? 03:10 < jsaw> how do I turn on removal of indentical history entries in bash? 03:11 < mnemoc> wasn't that a patch? 03:11 < jsaw> didn't try to compile it. But I remember having read sth. on rl about syslinux update problems too 03:11 < jsaw> really? 03:12 < mnemoc> iirc someone (jimmy?) sent a patch to add that feature 03:13 < jsaw> must have been after the fork... 03:13 < mnemoc> no, very earlier 03:14 < mnemoc> i guess it was rejected 03:14 < valentin> oh my god - i found a bug in djb's prime number generator or my alu is broken :( 03:15 < jsaw> ohoh. 03:15 < valentin> can anyone verify that 21071 is divisible by 19 ? 03:16 < mnemoc> 21071/19=1109 03:16 < mnemoc> 1109*19=21071 03:16 < jsaw> > 21071./19.; 03:16 < jsaw> 1109.0 03:16 < valentin> hehe 03:16 < jsaw> hi valentin 03:16 < valentin> valentin@majestix:~/primes/primegen-0.97$ ./primes | grep 21071 03:16 < valentin> 21071 03:17 < valentin> hi jsaw 03:17 < mnemoc> bad 03:17 < mnemoc> /calc 3./2. 03:17 < mnemoc> 3./2.=1 03:17 < valentin> i hope that is just a bug in the implementation, not in the atkins sieve prof 03:17 < mnemoc> doubles don't work here :( 03:18 < jsaw> mnemoc: ginsh 03:18 < jsaw> primes 20000 22000 | grep 21071 03:18 < jsaw> -> nothing 03:18 < valentin> which primes do you use ? the bsd primes i guess 03:18 < jsaw> (bsd-games) 03:19 < valentin> i used djb's prime number generator which uses atkin-sieve and can produce all primes up to 1.000.000.000.000.000 03:20 < mnemoc> djb's prime generator is flawed??? 03:20 < valentin> seems so - i did not check the newest version, though. 03:20 < valentin> i should do :) 03:20 < mnemoc> don't you win a million bucks if you find something like that? :) 03:20 < valentin> rimegen 0.97 03:20 < valentin> 19990304 03:20 < valentin> Copyright 1999 03:20 < valentin> D. J. Bernstein, djb@pobox.com 03:20 < valentin> http://pobox.com/~djb/primegen.html 03:21 < valentin> oups - so i should not have told you 03:21 < valentin> mnemoc: $10.000 if you do not tell anybody *g* 03:21 < mnemoc> :p 03:21 < mnemoc> ack 03:22 < valentin> 0.97 seems to be the latest version 03:22 < mnemoc> oh 03:23 < mnemoc> send the mail :) 03:23 < mnemoc> i have to go now 03:23 < mnemoc> cu 03:23 < valentin> cu 03:24 < mnemoc> after i finish my engine for mnemosyne's config i'll begin with uboot 03:24 < mnemoc> gn8 valentin, jsaw 03:26 < jsaw> cu mnemoc - sleep well 03:26 < valentin> anyone here with an x86 ? 03:27 < jsaw> yep 03:27 < valentin> can you compile that generator ? 03:29 < jsaw> jsaw@volans:~/tmp/primegen-0.97$ ./primes | grep 21071 03:29 < jsaw> 210713 03:30 < valentin> strange 03:30 < valentin> then this seems to be an architecture related problem. the lower primes are correct 03:32 < valentin> so - can you paste me an arbitrary prime between 20000 and 22000 ? 03:33 < jsaw> 20143 03:33 < valentin> thx 03:39 < valentin> valentin@majestix:~/primes/primegen-0.97$ ./primes | grep 20143 03:39 < valentin> 20143 03:39 < valentin> 201431 03:40 < valentin> the second one is divisible by 157 03:40 < jsaw> jsaw@volans:~/tmp/primegen-0.97$ ./primes | grep 20143 03:40 < jsaw> 20143 03:40 < jsaw> 201437 03:40 < jsaw> ... 03:40 < valentin> strange bug 03:41 < jsaw> on what machine? 03:41 < valentin> machine : PowerBook4,3 03:42 < jsaw> hmmm 03:42 < valentin> (in fact it is an G3 iBook) 03:42 < valentin> hope this generator code is not used in crypto systems ... 03:44 < jsaw> openh323 03:44 < valentin> *g* 03:44 < jsaw> oh no, wrong google hit... 03:45 < valentin> i do not know if such small primes are relevant in any crypto system (except for the sake of testing bigger primes) 03:53 < jsaw> somehow I guess it's a byte order bug 03:55 < valentin> no 03:55 < jsaw> found it? 03:55 < valentin> ok, yes 03:55 < valentin> but must be a tricky one 03:55 < valentin> because the generator seems to fail on numbers that are a product of two primes 03:57 < valentin> hm first wrong number that is not a product of two primes is 8723 04:05 < valentin> oh i found all wrong numbers are == 11 (mod 12) 04:06 < valentin> that is the only negative irreducable form used in the sieve 07:59 -!- N0V4K [~N0V4K@246.Red-80-33-149.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #t2 08:10 < rxr_> moin 08:10 < rxr_> Error logs from reference-2.1.0-beta3-x86-athlon-32-reference: 08:10 < rxr_> [5] base/linux26 [5] base/linux24 08:10 < rxr_> 1370 builds total, 394 completed fine, 2 with errors. 08:10 -!- You're now known as rxr 08:21 < CIA-10> susan * r5464 /trunk/package/network/ntop/ntop.desc: * added Author to ntop.desc 09:08 < rxr> moin 09:12 < rxr> the new syslinux does not build here either ... 09:25 < rxr> damn sh*t f*cking thunderbird ... 09:26 < rxr> so often some folder hangs on the mouse cursor that is than drag'n dropped where I do not want it .. 09:26 < rxr> how can one implement drag n' drop that annoyingly buggy ... 09:26 < rxr> how can one implement drag n' drop that annoyingly buggy ... 09:27 < rxr> == 01/07/05 09:26:57 =[5]=> Finished building package syslinux. 09:29 < CIA-10> rene * r5465 /trunk/package/base/linux-header/ext2_fs.patch: * fixed ext2_fs.h for user-space like syslinux 09:30 < rxr> 1370 builds total, 407 completed fine, 2 with errors. 09:52 < CIA-10> rene * r5466 /trunk/package/x11/nvidia/postlinux.conf: 09:52 < CIA-10> * added logging and a linux24 conditional to nvidia/postlinux.conf 09:52 < CIA-10> (should build with linux24 now - but untested - build in progress) 10:03 < rxr> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=netbsd-tech-net&m=109940554417735&w=2 10:07 < CIA-10> rene * r5467 /trunk/package/base/glibc/ (gcc_eh.patch.cross glibc.desc): 10:07 < CIA-10> * updated glibc (2.3.4-2004-08-01 -> 2.3.4-2004-12-24) and adapted the 10:07 < CIA-10> gcc_eh.patch.cross patch accordingly 10:20 < rxr> ok - I soon boot into osx ... 10:20 < rxr> for obvious reasons ... 10:34 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@pD95F8488.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 10:35 < nzg> moin 10:35 < rxr> moin nzg 10:35 < nzg> rxr: i will call schlund in a second.... 10:36 < rxr> ;-) 10:36 < nzg> last time i called and told them that this damn thing didn'T respond to anything they said to me afte about five minutes "yes, i cant't reach your server by ping" 10:37 < rxr> lol 10:37 < nzg> so much about "best german hoster" etc... 10:38 < nzg> can you take a look in your logs and tell me when nzg!~tschmidt@xchangecenter.de quit the last time please? 10:39 < rxr> ouhm 10:39 < nzg> then i can tell them excactly when it died ;-) 10:39 < rxr> 005-01-06.html:18:26 10:40 < rxr> is that reasonable ... 10:40 < rxr> 2005 of course ... 10:40 < nzg> thx ;-) 10:40 < rxr> np ;-) 10:40 < nzg> so it died about the same time i left the office ;-) 10:41 < rxr> ... 10:44 * rxr going out and depart the bell 10:45 < rxr> hm - dual 2.3Ghz Xserve G5 - would nicely fit into the rack here .. ;-) 11:03 < nzg> it would fit on my desk too ;-) 11:05 < rxr> too bad apple does not give them away that cheaply ... :-( 11:19 * rxr back to the bell placeing the new labels into it ... 11:21 < nzg> so... Schlund called... "hm, i cant reach you server either" "hm, it's not the first time that happens" "i forwarded it as high priority request to the administrative team" 11:23 < daja77> hehe that reminds me 11:27 < rxr> nzg: what kind of server do you have there? 11:27 < rxr> dedicated root, or just some virtual s.th.? 11:36 < nzg> rxr: dedicated root 11:43 < nzg> at least they say its a real machine ;-) 11:49 * rxr soon gettin lunch ... 11:51 < CIA-10> rene * r5468 /trunk/package/network/xmule/xmule.desc: * updated xmule (1.9.4 -> 1.9.5) 11:52 < rxr> Error logs from reference-2.1.0-beta3-x86-athlon-32-reference: [5] base/linux26 [5] base/linux24 [5] network/xmule 1370 builds total, 425 completed fine, 3 with errors. 11:52 < rxr> this nvidia thing drives me crazzy ... 11:52 < rxr> ok - some food and osx hacking first ... 11:53 * nzg just got lunch 11:54 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/t2/ 11:54 < rxr> ^- the place I will throw the error logs to so people can fix those ... 11:55 < rxr> the nvidia fixup is already on my todo ... 11:55 < rxr> lol 11:55 < rxr> ALSA ioctl32 in 2.6.10 or older is buggy. Try to avoid it. 11:56 < rxr> ^- not to mention that it (ioctl32) is there for a year or so now and it always crashed (hard freezed) my UltraSPARC U5 ... 12:00 < rxr> cu soon 12:21 -!- N0V4K [~N0V4K@246.Red-80-33-149.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit ["FreeBSD N0V4K.Zero 5.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE Chao"] 13:48 < nzg> rxr: the server is up again 13:48 < rxr> just noticed this ... 13:48 < rxr> I currently look how to mirrof via ftp - but that all seems to be a bit imperfect ... 13:50 < rxr> nzg: did they tell you what the problem was? 13:51 < nzg> no, not yet, although they promised to send me a mail 13:52 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@64.237.130.154] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:52 -!- sparcky [~mubex@64.237.130.154] has joined #t2 13:52 -!- sparcky [~mubex@64.237.130.154] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:54 < nzg> just celled them - the woman on the phone said that according to their system a colleaque is still investigating the problem 13:58 < rxr> nzg how should users get the files from your server? 13:59 < rxr> http or ftp? 13:59 < nzg> http for now - i can add ftp on the weekend 14:00 < rxr> I think http is fine ... 14:00 < rxr> just asked because there is just a Moin on the server ... 14:01 < nzg> ;-) i placed that there because i dislike the "Hier entsteht eine neue Internetpräsenz" default 14:04 < rxr> if call goes well I start copying the files soon ... 14:06 < CIA-10> rene * r5469 /trunk/package/network/lftp/lftp.desc: * updated lftp (3.0.3 -> 3.0.13) 14:13 < mnemoc> moin! 14:14 < mnemoc> rxr: why linux2[46] doesn't build? 14:14 < rxr> mnemoc: nvidia 14:14 < rxr> moin mnemoc 14:16 < mnemoc> moin rxr 14:20 < rxr> nzg: where do you want the files on the server? 14:21 < nzg> best you put them inside the htdocs of nzg.geeks.cl - /home/httpd/vhosts/nzg.geeks.cl/httpdocs/ 14:22 < rxr> I started to throw them into ok 14:22 < nzg> the beancounters want to have plesk running on that machine.... 14:23 < rxr> can you rm -rf /anon_ftp/pub/* then 14:23 < rxr> this is where I tested it on right now ... 14:24 < rxr> is /home/httpd/ ... somewhere in the ftp space? 14:24 < nzg> yes 14:25 < rxr> ouhm - must be blinded ... 14:25 < nzg> you get thronw ito it if you ftp the machine 14:26 < nzg> t2mirror:::::/home/httpd/vhosts/nzg.geeks.cl 14:26 < rxr> ah 14:26 < rxr> hm - and is is correct that there is all this stuff in there? 14:26 < rxr> bin lib etc ... 14:26 < rxr> statistics and so on ? 14:27 < nzg> yes 14:28 < rxr> is the plesk-stat file in the httpdocs directory vital? 14:28 < nzg> goog question ;-) shall i rm it? 14:28 < rxr> I have the permissions, too 14:29 < rxr> I just asked because the lftp mirror might remove it ... 14:29 < nzg> just remove it 14:29 < rxr> ok 14:30 < rxr> should I push a .htaccess on the server? 14:31 < rxr> the index.html is removed and one gets a forbidden on the server right now ... 14:31 < nzg> then yes 14:32 < mnemoc> rxr: mail 14:32 < rxr> nzg: ok - I do soon 14:33 < mnemoc> rxr: s/based/under/ on ROCK part 14:33 < rxr> could you please rm -rf all in that htdocs dir except t2-source? 14:33 < rxr> those are left overs from lftp trial'n errors ... 14:34 < rxr> nzg: data is flowing with 5MB/s ... 14:35 < rxr> `OOO_1_1_3_fix2.tar.bz2' at 66777320 (42%) 5.20M/s eta:17s [Sending data] 14:35 < mnemoc> oh 14:35 < mnemoc> i don't get that on my LAN 14:35 < nzg> done 14:44 < rxr> http://nzg.geeks.cl/ 14:44 < rxr> sync in progress 14:44 < rxr> but @ 5MB/s it will not last long ... 14:45 < nzg> *g* the schlund+partner rz is quite well connected 14:46 < rxr> yeah - and the gsmp.tfh-berlin.de is also quite well attached to the DFN ... 14:46 < rxr> I should later sync the binary ISOs to your side, too ? 14:46 * mnemoc feels great to see such a machine on his domain :p 14:47 < nzg> do so 14:47 < rxr> ok 14:47 < rxr> but not before next week or so .. 14:47 < nzg> if i ever need the space for something else, i tell you 14:47 < rxr> but I try if my old ftp.tux.org drock account is still alive 14:47 < rxr> and sync our sources there, too ... - If it is ... 14:48 < rxr> hehe - linux tarballed transfered in 7s or so ... 14:48 < rxr> -ed 14:51 < mnemoc> http://www.fairbanksstreets.com/uploader/userfiles/Mindsetonu/mscement.png 14:52 < rxr> lol 14:54 < mnemoc> rxr: you have a typo on mirror's README, first word 14:55 < mnemoc> can i change url to t2-project on my copy? 14:55 < rxr> not yet 14:55 < rxr> let us first migrate the content there 14:55 < mnemoc> ok 14:56 < rxr> which word contains a typo ? 14:56 < mnemoc> thiss 14:57 < rxr> oehm 14:57 < rxr> URL ? 14:57 < mnemoc> http://nzg.geeks.cl/t2-source/2.1/README 14:57 < rxr> INFO: Testing ... ok 64951.437 14:57 < rxr> INFO: Testing ... ok 58882.300 14:57 < rxr> INFO: Testing ... ok 17760.434 14:57 < rxr> INFO: Testing ... ok 13146.640 14:57 < rxr> INFO: Testing ... ok 72575.858 14:57 < mnemoc> oh 14:58 < mnemoc> nzg kicking 14:58 < nzg> hehe 15:00 < rxr> oehm - the mirror run completed ... 15:00 < jsaw> re 15:00 < nzg> wb jsaw 15:00 < mnemoc> wb jsaw 15:00 < rxr> was this 3GB data transfered in a matter of minutes ? 15:00 < jsaw> hi nzg,mnemoc,rxr 15:00 < rxr> hi jsaw 15:01 < mnemoc> INFO: Downloading mirror-list from exactcode.de. 15:01 < mnemoc> INFO: Testing ... ok 11976.608 15:01 < mnemoc> INFO: Testing ... ok 22938.747 15:01 < mnemoc> INFO: Testing ... ok 48401.773 15:01 < mnemoc> INFO: Testing ... ok 26608.201 15:01 < rxr> 3.7G t2-source 15:02 < rxr> mnemoc: whre is www.geeks.cl ? 15:02 < mnemoc> ignored using download/Me 15:02 < rxr> ah ... 15:02 < jsaw> rxr: how's the ref build? 15:03 < rxr> Error logs from reference-2.1.0-beta3-x86-athlon-32-reference: [5] base/linux26 [5] base/linux24 [5] network/xmule [5] e17/efsd1370 builds total, 531 completed fine, 4 with errors. 15:03 < jsaw> linux24 due to QM_MODULES not supported? 15:03 < rxr> no - both linux pacakges due to my broken nvidia/postlinux work ... 15:04 < rxr> yes I know I should fix this soon 15:04 < jsaw> I'll commit the first part of it. But linux24 still fails... 15:04 < rxr> btw - sorry for the broken cut'n pasts 15:04 < jsaw> However, I have no idea where this comes from: 15:04 < jsaw> depmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented 15:05 < rxr> I'm in osx - obviously - where cut'n paste is so annoying ... 15:05 < rxr> hm 15:05 < jsaw> kernel update? 15:05 < jsaw> or only fix for the elf-vuln 15:05 < mnemoc> kernel update fixes cut'n'paste on osx?? 15:06 < rxr> nzg: can you confirm that you have 3.7GB in the t2 mirror directory ? 15:06 < jsaw> nope elf-loader vulnerability in linux kernel: 15:06 < rxr> patch the kern l... 15:06 < rxr> and we could pull in the 3 kde patches 15:06 < nzg> must be around that - df says 4G on /home 15:06 < jsaw> http://lists.immunitysec.com/pipermail/dailydave/2005-January/001371.html 15:06 < rxr> but I have no time for those ... 15:06 < nzg> since it where 46M before ;-) 15:07 < rxr> ok - that was fast ... ,-) 15:08 < mnemoc> jsaw: no patches yet? 15:08 < jsaw> mnemoc: can't find one.. 15:10 < mnemoc> rxr: this is on a neutral chilean machine 15:10 < mnemoc> INFO: Testing ... ok 26522.056 15:10 < mnemoc> INFO: Testing ... ok 26468.498 15:10 < mnemoc> INFO: Testing ... ok 20871.338 15:10 < mnemoc> INFO: Testing ... ok 44461.330 15:10 < mnemoc> INFO: Testing ... ok 26543.540 15:11 < rxr> nice to see we have some mirror infrastructure to base on 15:12 < mnemoc> what happened to the guy from filipines? 15:12 < rxr> sparc* one ? 15:12 < mnemoc> iirc we is from puerto rico 15:12 < mnemoc> he* 15:17 < mnemoc> jsaw: http://www.rocklinux.net/lurker/message/20030923.144141.51486462.html 15:18 < rxr> you most probably just want HISTCONTROL=ignoredups 15:18 < jsaw> rxr was faster... 15:19 < jsaw> that's in my .profile since yesterday... 15:19 < mnemoc> according to that thread ignoredups only ignore consecutive dupes 15:19 < jsaw> I guess we should add this to the user profile in /etc/skel.. 15:19 < jsaw> mnemoc: that's what I wanted... 15:19 < mnemoc> :) 15:20 < rxr> although I have to admit that Jimmy's patch is also a nice to have ... 15:20 < rxr> but we should not patch abretary features into the bash beast ... 15:20 < rxr> jsaw: any news regarding the bash crash bug and patch? 15:21 < mnemoc> was jimmy invited to t2? 15:21 < rxr> yes 15:21 < mnemoc> and? 15:21 < mnemoc> did he answered? 15:21 < rxr> but he did never liked the rock code and usage at all and went freebsd ... 15:21 < mnemoc> :( 15:21 < rxr> although we could remeber him ... and invite to rereview ... 15:22 < jsaw> rxr: no, chet could not repeat the error... guess he has given up-I mean he was not interested in the first place, so... 15:22 < rxr> what? 15:22 < rxr> he claimed in the original mail that the bug was fixed ... ? 15:22 < jsaw> But I'm pretty sure my patch is correct. 15:22 < mnemoc> so where is the error? gcc? 15:22 < jsaw> rxr: which mail do you mean? 15:23 < rxr> he one in the bash mail archive 15:23 < rxr> where someone else reported s.th. like that and he just replied "it is fixed" 15:23 < jsaw> rxr: maybe in his personal cvs somewhere on the moon. 15:23 < jsaw> but there's not patch available. 15:24 < rxr> I know ... - that is why I explicitly asked for that patch he had in mind when writing the mail .. 15:24 < rxr> I'm quite feared that there is not bash version control system .... 15:24 < mnemoc> o_O 15:24 < mnemoc> is it possible to keep such beast without version control? 15:25 < rxr> well - you see the result 15:25 < jsaw> oh my, readline is the same style 15:25 < mnemoc> isn't he readline author too? 15:26 < rxr> yep 15:26 < rxr> thus the same style .-) 15:26 < mnemoc> :) 15:30 < CIA-10> jsaw * r5470 /trunk/package/x11/nvidia/ (depmod-kver.patch module-install-24.patch): 15:30 < CIA-10> * try to fix nvidia/postlinux.sh build, linux26 seems to work 15:30 < CIA-10> linux24 breaks with QM_MODULES:Function no supported in depmod...(here) 15:31 < jsaw> rxr: here's the working base for the nvidia stuff, don't have more time to elaborate on it 15:32 < rxr> thanks 15:32 < rxr> I read over it and throw it in the reference build ... 15:33 < jsaw> the depmod-kver.patch is for linux26, the other for linux24 15:33 < rxr> nzg: seems I can inject the lftp run into cron now ... 15:33 < mnemoc> lftp is great 15:34 < rxr> used it the first time right now ... 15:34 * nzg has never used lftp 15:34 < rxr> just had to search s.th. that can push mirror ftp:// ... 15:35 < mnemoc> it preserve dates too 15:38 < rxr> 1370 builds total, 559 completed fine, 4 with errors. 15:38 < mnemoc> :D 15:38 < rxr> and soon we have 2 error less when linux* will be fixed ... 15:38 -!- ideal [~idealm@211.100.227.107] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:39 < mnemoc> we may remove .cache files older than 5? month after reference 15:39 < rxr> why? 15:40 < rxr> my vision is to get rid of the .cache monsster noise commits anyway ... 15:40 < mnemoc> those are from O packages which haven't been tested 15:40 < mnemoc> and push .cache from test builds 15:40 < mnemoc> imvho 15:42 < rxr> arg 15:42 < rxr> I just mistyped crontab -e with -r and now my root crontab is gone 15:42 < rxr> who the hell wants a -r parameter that wipes vital data without further questioning ? 15:42 < rxr> damn junk ... 15:42 < rxr> especially when r and e are so near on the keyboard ... 15:44 < CIA-10> jsaw * r5471 /trunk/package/base/readline/ (readline.conf readline.desc): * add patches to readline ala bash 15:44 < rxr> omg 15:52 < jsaw> btw bash, that's also funny: 15:52 < jsaw> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-bash/2005-01/msg00011.html 15:52 < jsaw> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-bash/2005-01/msg00000.html 15:54 < jsaw> commit and fix later, or fix and commit later: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.t2.devel/313 15:56 < rxr> ouhm - still not deeply looked into it ... .-( 15:57 < mnemoc> i have read those some days ago :p he has 'good' answers for everything 15:58 < jsaw> hehe 15:58 < rxr> damn cut'n paste in osx 15:58 < rxr> and tomorrow I will hit apple-c and apple-v everywhere in linux again ... 15:58 < rxr> damn crap 15:59 < rxr> valentin: when did you wanted to grab the ppc board ? 16:00 < mnemoc> rxr: are you liquidating ppc boards? 16:01 < rxr> well - some just fly by for free ... 16:02 < mnemoc> :) 16:02 < rxr> well - old slow left overs ... 16:03 < mnemoc> :'( 16:06 < valentin> rxr: not today and not tomorow 16:07 < valentin> anyone seen the rock video ? 16:07 < rxr> nope - my osx does not wanna play it back ... 16:13 < rxr> oh - I never saw tove before: 16:13 < rxr> http://www.tux.org/~chessman/images/linus+tove.jpg 16:30 < rxr> 1370 builds total, 611 completed fine, 5 with errors. 16:31 < mnemoc> is tove linus wife? 16:31 < rxr> IIRC yes 16:38 < rxr> and now I wiped again vital data due to annoying osx cut'n paste behavour 16:38 < rxr> arrg 16:38 < mnemoc> :\ 16:38 < rxr> how can anyone want to use this shit ... 16:38 < mnemoc> svn revert 16:39 < rxr> well - if I would have all of my boxes /etc data in svn ... 16:39 < mnemoc> rcs? :) 16:39 < rxr> neither 16:39 < mnemoc> :( 16:49 < rxr> I now saw the first seconds of the rock bof video 16:49 < rxr> however it is tha fat that my 1024kBit connection needs over 2 hours to suck it down ... 16:50 < rxr> valentin: you had some question regarding that footage ? 16:52 < rxr> most probably they do not know themselfs why they but this noisy video and noisy audio thing up at 720x676 @902.9kbps ... 16:52 < rxr> hey - and it has 48kHz audio ... 16:53 < valentin> but that does not help - you simply cannot hear daja for example 16:53 < rxr> one can only marginally hear anyone ... 16:53 < daja77> i did not say much, and yes blindy was not familiar with that cam 16:54 < valentin> i was not ranting, just wondering why he encoded it in such a high resolution 16:54 < valentin> hi daja77 btw 16:55 < daja77> no idea 16:55 < daja77> hi valentin 16:55 < rxr> in 48kHz stereo mp3 @ 128kbps ... 16:55 < rxr> hi daja77 16:55 < valentin> lets wait for the subtitles then :) 16:55 < rxr> yeah - would be better ... 17:24 < valentin> i need to bake a cake - cu later 17:25 < rxr> cu 19:00 -!- N0V4K [~N0V4K@246.Red-80-33-149.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #t2 19:04 < rxr> hi N0V4K 19:07 -!- N0V4K [~N0V4K@246.Red-80-33-149.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:12 -!- N0V4K [~N0V4K@246.Red-80-33-149.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #t2 19:18 < CIA-10> rene * r5472 /trunk/package/x11/nvidia/ (3 files): 19:18 < CIA-10> * improved the nvidia patches: 19:18 < CIA-10> * more lightweight 2.4 one - e.g. do not inject a wohle new target 19:18 < CIA-10> * do not call depmod at all 19:18 < CIA-10> * unified naming 19:51 -!- tschmidt_ [~tschmidt@p508EAB27.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 19:51 < rxr> hi tschmidt_ ;-) 19:56 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@pD95F8488.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 19:59 < rxr> I dife thru the rock bof - and wonder why they have guitar music in the background that is nearly as loud as the speakers ... 20:02 < rxr> clifford does not know what he talks ... - he tells obviously bullshit about the package's $confdir checksum and all the others just nod ... 20:02 < rxr> and the extra version thing can of course be solved way cooler ... 20:02 < rxr> damn i 20:02 < rxr> damn is the bof annoying .... 20:02 < rxr> fast farward ... 20:02 < rxr> forward 20:07 < rxr> good that I left that project ... 20:08 < rxr> the whole extraver discussion is mostly about the .cache file - and that is not checksummed anyway ... 20:10 < rxr> rocksrcck=$(cd $base; md5sum package/*/$pkg/* 2> /dev/null | \ 20:10 < rxr> grep -v '\.cache$' | md5sum | cut -f1 -d' ') 20:10 < rxr> ^- paste from ROCK svn ... 20:12 < rxr> .oO 20:15 -!- tschmidt_ [~tschmidt@p508EAB27.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:16 < rxr> the rock community would have had more when it would he been transriptted ... 20:16 * rxr stops with this pointless video now, finally ... 21:11 -!- N0V4K [~N0V4K@246.Red-80-33-149.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:13 < mnemoc> rehi 21:16 < CIA-10> rene * r5473 /trunk/package/x11/nvidia/postlinux.conf: * fixed nvidia/postlinux.conf typo - oops ... 21:16 < rxr> hi mnemoc 21:16 * rxr most likely a bit away 21:16 < rxr> cu slightly later 21:18 < mnemoc> cu rxr 21:19 < rxr> well - ok - or not yet ... ,-) 21:20 < mnemoc> :) 21:26 < rxr> how are you mnemoc ? 21:26 < rxr> [5] network/xmule [5] e17/efsd 21:26 < rxr> [5] e17/entrance 21:26 < rxr> 1370 builds total, 636 completed fine, 3 with errors. 21:27 < mnemoc> :) 21:27 < mnemoc> e17's are old, xmule is a new brokenness 21:28 < rxr> due to wxwidget update I think 21:28 < mnemoc> yes 21:28 < mnemoc> DynamicPreferencesCtrl.cpp:435: error: conversion from `const char[1]' to `const wxString' is ambiguous 21:29 < rxr> osx sucks 21:29 < mnemoc> we all know :) 21:29 < rxr> my stuff crahes - I get a kde / gnome crash dialog style send to apple dialog 21:29 < rxr> including a backtrace ... 21:29 < rxr> it tells me this: 21:29 < rxr> (aside from much noise) 21:29 < rxr> Thread: 2 21:30 < rxr> Thread 0: 21:30 < rxr> .... 21:30 < rxr> backtrace 21:30 < rxr> Thread 1: 21:30 < rxr> ... 21:30 < rxr> backtrace 21:30 < rxr> Thread 2 Crashed: 21:30 < rxr> ... 21:30 < rxr> Thread _2_ ???? ... 21:31 < mnemoc> strace -tt ? 21:33 < mnemoc> -fF i mean :\ 21:33 < mnemoc> err 21:33 * mnemoc needs water 21:35 < rxr> no strace in osx 21:35 < rxr> only found some kdump s.th. so far ... 21:35 < mnemoc> :( 21:35 < rxr> I know Thread 1 crashed - I just find so many strange things in osx that I feel I have to report/log some of them here ... 21:35 < mnemoc> i wouldn't be able to live without my great friend strace 21:35 < rxr> yep ,-) 21:36 < rxr> if you want s.th. to fall asleep I can recommend the rock bof video ... ,-) 21:36 < rxr> me a bit or longer away 21:37 < mnemoc> i guess i'll have to wait for subtitles, german is not one my of strengths 21:39 < rxr> oh - yes, forgot it ... 21:47 -!- sparc-kly [~sparc@64.237.130.154] has joined #t2 21:48 < rxr> h isp 21:48 < rxr> hi sparc-kly ;-) 21:48 < sparc-kly> hi rxr :P 21:49 < rxr> wow - smp mentions t2 ... 21:49 < mnemoc> where? 21:49 < rxr> although just that we split xine into xine-ui and xine-lib 21:49 < rxr> in the rock bof ... 21:49 < rxr> after that sentense from him someone makes a joke I was not yet able to understand 21:49 < rxr> due to the high noise level 21:50 < rxr> I have my amplified volume turn to max to be able to understand anything at all ... 21:59 < rxr> rm -rf bof 750MB file ... 21:59 < mnemoc> :) 21:59 < rxr> damn - was that boring - even with fast forwards ... 21:59 < rxr> mnemoc: all you need is the summary on the mailing list 21:59 < rxr> the video is just - well - I miss the words ... 21:59 * rxr again either shorter or longer away ... 22:00 < mnemoc> i guess with better audio encoding it would be better 22:05 < rxr> well - it was quite slow and toting anyway ... 22:06 < rxr> == 01/07/05 22:05:27 =[5]=> Finished building package linux26. 22:06 < rxr> wee 22:06 < rxr> 1370 builds total, 637 completed fine, 3 with errors. 22:09 -!- N0V4K [~N0V4K@246.Red-80-33-149.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #t2 22:12 < rxr> what the sh*t f*cking hell .... 22:12 < mnemoc> ? 22:12 < rxr> this damn buggy osx crap 22:13 < rxr> this expose thingi just left a window hidden in the off-screen area hidden from me ... 22:13 < mnemoc> why are you osx-ing? scanner driver? 22:13 < rxr> yes 22:13 < rxr> of coruse 22:13 < rxr> course 22:13 < rxr> otherwise I would not smite me ... 22:18 -!- mtr_ [~michael@H831b.h.pppool.de] has joined #t2 22:19 < rxr> hi mtr_ 22:20 < mnemoc> hi mtr 22:20 < mnemoc> mtr_: have you played with uclibc lately? 22:27 -!- mtr [~michael@Ha5f2.h.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:27 < mnemoc> :\ 22:27 < rxr> :-( 22:37 < rxr> 1370 builds total, 640 completed fine, 3 with errors. 22:38 < rxr> me rebooting - osx acts stranger then usual ... 23:04 < mnemoc> Do not look at the X-Mailer tag - it is Apple Mail.app <--- sorry rxr, my thunderbird shows it on header :p 23:08 < rxr> yeah - I know some show it early on - that is why I added it *g* 23:08 < rxr> just for the joke of it ... 23:09 < mnemoc> that's why i show mailers ;) 23:10 < rxr> to see who is cheating, not using linux in production? 23:10 < mnemoc> yeah 23:10 < rxr> do I eat a supper - or do I fall into bed ... 23:10 < rxr> my difficult questions ... 23:10 < rxr> 1370 builds total, 643 completed fine, 3 with errors. 23:11 < mnemoc> everything start after 900 23:11 < rxr> you mean the annoying toy package nobody does care about ? 23:12 < mnemoc> no, after 900 completed packages the broken-party begins 23:12 < mnemoc> that happened to me on my generic-try, and to jsaw 23:12 < mnemoc> but yes, most are toy packages nobody cares 23:12 < rxr> yeah - the "annoying toy package nobody does care about" ... ;-) 23:13 < rxr> and you want me to fix those? 23:13 < rxr> when I have to do some uni stuff to prevent exmatriculation and this scanner driver thingy I want to get my bills payed with ? 23:14 -!- N0V4K [~N0V4K@246.Red-80-33-149.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:14 < mnemoc> i trying to fix uclibc/gawk and i don't know how 23:14 < rxr> hm 23:14 < rxr> what is the problem/error ? 23:15 < mnemoc> a group related var is not declared because of an #if condition 23:15 < mnemoc> and that var is used on a block with the same damn condition 23:16 < rxr> no - i do not believe that 23:16 < rxr> the apple people are kidding ... 23:16 < mnemoc> uhm? 23:16 < mnemoc> red screen of death? 23:16 < mnemoc> io.c: In function `useropen': 23:16 < mnemoc> io.c:1515: error: `ngroups' undeclared (first use in this function) 23:16 < mnemoc> io.c:1515: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once 23:16 < mnemoc> io.c:1515: error: for each function it appears in.) 23:16 < mnemoc> io.c:1517: error: `groupset' undeclared (first use in this function) 23:16 * rxr lieing on the floor laughing ... 23:16 < mnemoc> make[2]: *** [io.o] Error 1 23:16 < mnemoc> make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/building/t2/uboot/src.gawk.1105131500.23564.0/gawk-3.1.4' 23:16 < rxr> the thred index I posted earlier 23:17 < rxr> I thought it was due to human readable convertion in the style +1 23:17 < mnemoc> byt? 23:17 < rxr> so it says when you have 1 thread, thread[0]: Thread 1 crashed 23:17 < mnemoc> but* 23:17 < rxr> but this is not the case ... 23:17 < rxr> I now get: 23:17 < rxr> Thread 0 Crashed: 23:17 < rxr> 23:18 < rxr> Thread 1: 23:18 < rxr> full backtrace and so on 23:18 < rxr> oh my ... 23:18 < rxr> who coded this stuff ... 23:18 < mnemoc> :) 23:18 < rxr> wow - and how should I debug this now ? 23:19 < rxr> apple should hire me and pay me s.th. in the > 200.000 EUR/year range to help them to get their stuff into production quality ... 23:19 < rxr> I should consider sending sone resume to them ... 23:20 * rxr should plug in my U30 with Firewire adapter to be able to read the iBook's system memory that way ... 23:20 < rxr> too good IEEE1394 allows exactly that ... 23:20 < mnemoc> flood them bugs and debug info :) 23:21 < rxr> yeah - e.g. press on the Send to Apple button every time our driver crashes ... 23:21 < rxr> "Why did you send us 200 crash reports yesterday?" 23:21 < rxr> well - hey - because the button was there ... ;-) 23:23 < mnemoc> hehe 23:24 < rxr> maybe they change the app logic then - to first show a colorful dialog with 23:25 < rxr> "The application you have been currently working with just crashed. If you are not the developer and you are sure it is not your fault it crash click on the see crash log for the possiblity to send the bug report to Apple Inc." 23:25 < rxr> "And do not send more than one per day" 23:25 < mnemoc> talking about abandon packages, can you "find -name '*.cache' -exec rm \{\} \;" before reference start coping new cache files? 23:25 < rxr> well - they could even add a hidden counter to prevent this ... 23:26 < mnemoc> are you sure they dont? 23:26 < rxr> well - I do not need to rm them before 23:26 < rxr> and the .caches files are not copied automatically - one needs to run the deeply hidden script anyways ... 23:27 < mnemoc> i would like to know what optional packages have recient cache files and evidently force $maintainer to inject one 23:28 < rxr> well - nearly none of the optional packages would be build inside my ref, build, no ? 23:28 < mnemoc> none will build on your ref 23:28 < rxr> so you can ask all O maintainers anyway ... 23:29 < mnemoc> clifford and mnemoc 23:29 < rxr> yeah - then go and ask clifford ... 23:29 < mnemoc> ah, and daja 23:29 < mnemoc> rtai thing 23:29 < rxr> Hey clifford - here is this package in t2 that is marked optional - could you please verify it sill builds and send an updated .cache file ? 23:30 < rxr> but clifford should not have any packages in t2 anymore - I sed'ed them over to me some days ago .... 23:30 < mnemoc> su you maintain icc now? ;) 23:30 < mnemoc> so* 23:30 < rxr> yep 23:30 < rxr> in theory 23:30 < mnemoc> =) 23:30 < rxr> you get an update I guess ? 23:30 < rxr> s/you/ 23:31 < rxr> icc could get an update I meant 23:31 < mnemoc> and a test build :p 23:31 < mnemoc> much funnier than osx, usb and scanners :) 23:32 < rxr> yeah - but I can not overlive that ... 23:32 < rxr> either due to the ugly icc'ness or out of food before ... 23:32 < mnemoc> =) 23:32 < mnemoc> what about removing that basta^Wpackage? 23:33 < rxr> basto what ? 23:33 < rxr> icc ? 23:33 < rxr> no - that is one of the more useful packges ... 23:34 < mnemoc> O_O 23:34 < rxr> removing some outdated and O gnome2 or some other unused gnome14 stuff would be more useful - icc is at least useful for some stuff ... 23:34 < rxr> where old anc rotting gnome* stuff never is .... 23:35 < rxr> hm - rotting reminds me I should take a look into the rock irc ... 23:35 < mnemoc> ic 23:38 < rxr> e.g. gnotepad+ is s.th. I recently discovered is gnome2 and is moved into gnome14 nwo ... 23:38 < rxr> but do we need to keep an gnome14 example text editor ? 23:39 < mnemoc> i consider gnome14 a legacy problem needed by a very few useful programs 23:41 * rxr too 23:41 < rxr> so I can wipe gnotepad+ 23:41 < rxr> ? 23:41 < mnemoc> a program which haven't released in 4? years, in which no other depends don't deserve to live 23:42 < rxr> good 23:42 < CIA-10> rene * r5474 /trunk/package/gnome14/gnotepad+/: * removed obsolete example text editor of gnome14 23:43 < rxr> hm - I do not get this 23:43 < mnemoc> what? 23:43 < rxr> my example testcase does terminate with seig11 SIGSEGV and the damn debugger does still show it is running and I can onyl click on terminate ... 23:44 < rxr> hm - interesting .. 23:44 < rxr> why the hell does the thing show treminated when it was just one thread ... 23:45 < rxr> and why is the main app still spinning in CFRunLoopRun ... ?!?!? 23:45 < rxr> I want my Linux back ... 23:45 < mnemoc> *G* 23:48 < rxr> and why doen't the debugger pop up with the place the thread crashed ... 23:49 < mnemoc> misterius thread 23:49 < mnemoc> part of apple's obscurity 23:50 < rxr> argj 23:50 < rxr> what is that: 23:50 < rxr> Error from Debugger: mi_cmd_exec_interrupt: Inferior not executing. 23:51 < rxr> erhm - erhm - I get headache 23:52 < rxr> there is some Write*Async 23:53 < rxr> when I pass smoe non-zero vaule to the written variable passed as pointer to that function I get into trouble ... ? 23:54 < rxr> osx drives you crazzy ... --- Log closed Sat Jan 08 00:00:46 2005