--- Log opened Tue Nov 16 00:00:58 2004 00:41 < rxr> cool - so managed quite some base practicing tonight 00:41 * rxr quickly restarting X (testind new patch) 00:44 < rxr> re 00:44 < rxr> hm 00:56 < CIA-9> rene * r4703 /trunk/package/x11/xorg/xorg.cron: 00:56 < CIA-9> * fixed xorg.cron to use --system-only for the fc-cache run 00:56 < CIA-9> (and thus not including /root/.fonts) 00:56 < rxr> [5] python/pysqlite [5] e17/efsd 00:56 < rxr> [5] e17/elicit [5] e17/entrance 00:56 < rxr> [5] security/gpgme [5] security/gpa 00:56 < rxr> [5] kde/koffice [5] graphic/pixieplus 00:56 < rxr> [5] gnome14/gtkhtml10 [5] audio/xmp 00:56 < rxr> [5] gnome2/gedit-plugins [5] multimedia/nvrec 00:56 < rxr> [5] gnome2/gkrellm-plugins [5] perl/mysql-perl 00:56 < rxr> [5] perl/perl-dbd-postgresq [5] emulators/dosemu 00:56 < rxr> [5] audio/vstserver [5] multimedia/kaxtv 00:56 < rxr> [5] multimedia/mythtv [5] multimedia/vdr 00:56 < rxr> [5] fonts/mplayer-fonts [5] multimedia/avview 00:56 < rxr> [5] audio/ladspa-swh-plugins [5] audio/ladspa-vst 00:56 < rxr> [5] audio/ardour [5] gnome2/gnomemeeting 00:56 < rxr> [5] base/quota [5] multimedia/ripperx 00:56 < rxr> [5] develop/clip [5] multimedia/vls 00:56 < rxr> [5] multimedia/ggrab [5] gnome2/gnucash 00:56 < rxr> [5] develop/mono-develop [5] multimedia/dvgrab 00:56 < rxr> [5] develop/ocs [5] develop/stlport 00:56 < rxr> 978 builds total, 941 completed fine, 36 with errors. 01:02 < rxr> n8 all 01:27 < mnemoc> rxr: clip people has 56kbps, then you need to -notimeout 01:41 < valentin> hm, i am chrooted into the build and there is a 01:41 < valentin> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Nov 14 05:10 /opt/e17/lib/libevas.so.1 -> libevas.so.1.0.0 01:41 < valentin> working symlink 01:42 < valentin> when a file is compiled with 01:42 < valentin> -L/opt/e17/lib -lecore_evas 01:42 < valentin> i get an 01:42 < valentin> /usr/lib/gcc/i586-unknown-linux-gnu/3.4.3/../../../../i586-unknown-linux-gnu/bin/ld: warning: libevas.so.1, needed by /opt/e17/lib/libecore_evas.so, not found 02:02 < valentin> everybody asleep i guess 02:02 < valentin> guahh 02:02 < valentin> rxrs computer shutting down now 02:05 < valentin> ok, debuging session finished by force :(( 02:16 < valentin> cu and gn8 02:35 -!- rxr_ [~rene@p213.54.221.214.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 02:35 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | the system development environment | http://www.exactcode.de/t2 02:35 -!- Topic set by valentin [] [Sun Nov 7 16:41:27 2004] 02:35 [Users #t2] 02:35 [ _martin ] [ daja77] [ mnemoc] [ praenti] [ sparc-kly] 02:35 [ _Ragnar_] [ freed ] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ valentin ] 02:35 [ CIA-9 ] [ jsaw ] [ nzg ] [ rxr_ ] 02:35 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal] 02:35 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 02:35 -!- [freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots, please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 02:35 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 11 secs 02:43 -!- rxr [~rene@p213.54.246.77.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:23 -!- kensai [~kensai@64.237.129.108] has joined #t2 03:24 < sparc-kly> kensai sucks LOL 03:25 < kensai> LOL 03:26 < kensai> sparc-kly: by god man this is a public channel 03:26 < sparc-kly> hehe 03:28 < mnemoc> :) 03:31 < kensai> mnemoc: He suffers of dementia don't take any word from him 03:32 < mnemoc> hehe 03:32 < mnemoc> to much gentoo damage the brain 03:33 < kensai> yeah thats right 03:33 < sparc-kly> LOL 03:33 < kensai> sparc-kly, please take your pills 03:33 < mnemoc> :) 03:34 < sparc-kly> t LOL i planned kill you in university ok ? 03:35 < kensai> sparc-kly, hehe 03:35 < kensai> sparc-kly, should I install Linux on University pcs? 03:35 < sparc-kly> look my pv 03:36 < sparc-kly> men ,toky put linux in CAI pcs today 03:37 < sparc-kly> all machine in univ boot cd is enable in BIOS :D 03:37 < kensai> sparc-kly, Live CD? 03:37 < sparc-kly> yes 03:37 < mnemoc> where are you from? 03:37 < kensai> thats what toky used? 03:37 < kensai> Puerto Rico 03:37 < sparc-kly> plask linux ? vahh i dont remember 03:38 < sparc-kly> kensai mnemoc is latin developer :D he speak spanish . 03:39 < kensai> sparc-kly: if I don't get my eth0 working on the t2 based distro your going to make it work for me ;) 03:39 < kensai> sparc-kly: I hate my freaking complicated ethernet card 03:40 < sparc-kly> i dont have idea . but is your problem . you buy gay ethernet card 03:40 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: i guess i know you speak spanish :) 03:40 < kensai> Davicom semiconductor ethernet cards suck 03:40 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r4704 /trunk/package/base/pciutils/pciutils.desc: * pciids checksum (pciutils) updated for 2004-11-10' snapshot 03:41 < kensai> mnemoc, me too 03:41 < sparc-kly> davicom LOL 03:41 < mnemoc> davicom stinks 03:41 < kensai> mnemoc, what should I buy? 03:42 < kensai> mnemoc, que ethernet usas? 03:42 < mnemoc> 3com or dlink 03:42 < kensai> sparc-kly, cual tu estas usando? 03:43 < mnemoc> kensai: english please 03:43 < sparc-kly> sis900 very shit and generic ethernet :D 03:43 < kensai> mnemoc, sorry sometimes I forget I'm on IRC 03:44 < mnemoc> even sis is more reliable than davicom 03:44 < mnemoc> kensai: :) 03:44 < kensai> kool bash my ethernet card even more 03:44 < kensai> ;) 03:44 < kensai> I'll leave to drink water please I expect to see like 10 lines bashing my ethernet card 03:45 < jsaw> go on speaking spanish? portuguese?... I'll imagine the sound and feel like being in a warm sunny place eating tappes etc... *damn* it's cold here in germany 03:46 < jsaw> tappas 03:46 < kensai> jsaw,:) 03:46 < jsaw> :) 03:46 < mnemoc> hehe 03:46 < mnemoc> how are you jsaw? 03:47 < mnemoc> jsaw: btw, that was spanish 03:47 < sparc-kly> kensai: und die Karte, die ich Ihnen gebe 03:47 < kensai> Gnome 2.9.1 is fairly stable now sparc-kly you should try it 03:47 < jsaw> mnemoc: something like owl 03:47 < jsaw> or like u 03:48 < jsaw> just lost my room at home 03:48 < mnemoc> o_O 03:48 < jsaw> PC broken, laptop is sooooo slow... no money 03:48 < sparc-kly> kensai 2.9.1 ? is more fast than 2.8? 03:49 < kensai> hehe 03:49 < sparc-kly> my enghlis is very bad so i try , and practice 03:49 < kensai> maybe 03:49 < jsaw> mnemoc: but thesis is progressing and I can stay 2 more years in the lab after the exam 03:49 < kensai> sparc-kly, I have some Ingles sin barreras for you LOL 03:49 < jsaw> (fully paid) :) 03:49 < sparc-kly> maybe lol is very unstable 03:49 < sparc-kly> ingles sin barreras . :D good idea for idiot 03:50 < kensai> sparc-kly, LOL 03:50 < sparc-kly> unknow in idiot LOL 03:50 < sparc-kly> im* 03:50 < mnemoc> jsaw: jsaw: that's great, but tell me more about your room? 03:51 < kensai> sparc-kly, HMMM? 03:51 < jsaw> jsaw: I had to give it up for my daughter. She staid in our bedroom, but the next daughter is approaching, so... 03:51 < jsaw> *lol* 03:51 < jsaw> mnemoc I meant 03:51 < mnemoc> jsaw: :D 03:51 < jsaw> .oO(where's my medicin, getting old) 03:52 < mnemoc> my home desktop is on the room where the washing machine is 03:52 < sparc-kly> 18:50:55 up 3 days, 1:05, 1 user, load average: 0.05, 0.06, 0.07 03:52 < sparc-kly> :D 03:52 < kensai> :) 03:52 < mnemoc> when will get born you second girl? 03:52 < jsaw> mnemoc: I'm working night time anyway, so I'll gonna move into the kitchen I guess... 03:52 < jsaw> measurement says Feb 19th 03:53 -!- kensai [~kensai@64.237.129.108] has quit ["Oh! my god I closed the IRC"] 03:53 < mnemoc> my rafaella is of jan 30, 2004 :) almost one year of difference 03:54 < jsaw> rafaella, great name 03:55 < mnemoc> did you choose name? 03:55 -!- kensai [~kensai@64.237.129.108] has joined #t2 03:55 < jsaw> my first one is "marlene hannah stella", the next one will be "charlotte ? luna" (I can choose the name in the middle, not yet sure) 03:55 < kensai> My gnome 2.9.1 just crashed 03:55 < sparc-kly> lol 03:55 < jsaw> kensai: hehe 03:55 < sparc-kly> put stable version 03:56 < kensai> I really like bleeding edge until I'm bleeding to much 03:56 < jsaw> :))))))))))))))))))) 03:56 < kensai> ;) 03:57 < mnemoc> jsaw: three names? i have a "victoria carolina" and a "rafaella antonia"... only two names 03:58 < kensai> One name Ara 03:58 < kensai> LOL 03:58 < kensai> what are you talking about? 03:58 < mnemoc> daughters 03:58 < kensai> oh 03:59 < kensai> I like the name Atra cause it sounds medieval 03:59 < kensai> Ara* 03:59 < jsaw> mnemoc: we couldn't decide and I didn't like the idea of not having contributed any name... 03:59 < mnemoc> non of the 5 is was choosen by you? 03:59 < mnemoc> s/is// 03:59 < jsaw> and now we have to continue with three names 03:59 < jsaw> the middle one is my choice 04:00 < jsaw> hannah for my first daughter 04:00 < mnemoc> how do you call her? 04:00 < jsaw> and the last name is mine too (we're not married ya know) 04:00 < jsaw> marlene 04:01 < jsaw> I guess, she's gonna be pissed later on when she has to write it completely: "Marlene Hannah Stella Sawinski" 04:01 < jsaw> hehe 04:01 -!- kensai [~kensai@64.237.129.108] has quit ["Oh! my god I closed the IRC"] 04:02 < jsaw> gnome... 04:02 < sparc-kly> crash again :D 04:02 < jsaw> *evil grin* (even though I'm using gnome myself and crashed also once in a while) 04:07 < mnemoc> she will hate you 04:08 < jsaw> mnemoc: yep. (but may I still hope that she will love me for being able to choose, may I ... no I guess not...) 04:09 < mnemoc> :p 04:09 < mnemoc> at least you have only one family name, we have two. one from father and one from mother 04:10 < jsaw> ah yeah right. I almost forgot. 04:11 < jsaw> mnemoc: what does rafaella mean? 04:12 < mnemoc> female for raphael, the archangel 04:13 < jsaw> ah, but what does rapheal mean (I mean translated, the history itself I know) 04:14 < mnemoc> no medicine of god iirc 04:14 < mnemoc> s/no// 04:15 < jsaw> healed by god 04:15 < jsaw> yes, right. 04:15 < jsaw> nice. 04:16 < jsaw> hebrew never differentiates between present and future tense... so both right 04:18 < mnemoc> :D 04:18 < jsaw> hannah is "grace of god" 04:19 < jsaw> marlene is not really clear, some say mixture of maria magdalena, 04:20 < mnemoc> and stella? 04:20 < jsaw> star 04:20 < jsaw> latin? I think 04:21 < jsaw> (luna -> third name of next daughter) 04:21 < mnemoc> moon? 04:21 < jsaw> yes 04:22 < mnemoc> third names are from astronomy then 04:22 < jsaw> looks like... 04:24 < jsaw> just found a page that says marlene means "child of light, bitter" (which would be "magdalena, maria") 04:24 < jsaw> funny. 04:24 < jsaw> pretty much tells here personality. 04:24 < mnemoc> yes? 04:25 < jsaw> very happy, very angry - nothing in between 04:26 < jsaw> brb, getting a coffee 04:30 < mnemoc> the three women i have at home are like your marlene then :) 04:36 < jsaw> :) 04:52 < mnemoc> i'll go to sleep, gn8 jsaw, sparc-kly 04:52 < jsaw> sleep well mnemoc 04:58 < jsaw> I give up too, riding home seeking my bed... 04:58 < jsaw> cu sparc-kly 07:20 -!- mtross [~michael@H8eb1.h.pppool.de] has joined #t2 07:28 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:37 -!- mtr [~michael@Hb912.h.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:00 < rxr_> moin 08:01 < rxr_> huh - some scrollback to do ... 08:01 -!- You're now known as rxr 08:17 -!- mtross is now known as mtr 08:17 < mtr> moin 08:28 < rxr> moin mtr 08:41 < CIA-9> rene * r4705 /trunk/package/e17/elicit/elicit.conf: * fixed elicit by including the usual e17.conf automatics 10:17 -!- tschmidt_ [~tschmidt@p508EB5A9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 10:17 -!- freed [~uni@pD9E77F23.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:31 -!- tschmidt_ [~tschmidt@p508EB5A9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:37 -!- tschmidt_ [~tschmidt@p508EB5A9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 10:41 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@p508EAF31.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:53 < rxr> mnemoc: /me right now at install stuff ... 11:07 < rxr> mnemoc: jsaw: the problem is due to using the cross compiler for which we adapt the spec file explicitly asking to include those systems headers 11:07 < rxr> I wonder how this compiled in ROCK Linux 11:07 < rxr> either an untested change and brokeen there, too - or they did s.th. else 11:08 < rxr> but I wanted to get rid of the ugly spec file adaption anyway ... 11:11 < CIA-9> rene * r4706 /trunk/target/bootdisk/ (build_stage1.sh build_stage2.sh): 11:11 < CIA-9> * added -Os -s to the bootdisk target diet invocations 11:11 < CIA-9> * removed the || true crap to not let linuxrc compilations pass with 11:11 < CIA-9> errors present 11:11 < CIA-9> * further bootdisk package map tuning 11:12 < rxr> ^- this will not fix the problem yet 11:12 < rxr> I'll first create a new ISO with a locally fixed cross gcc spec file - and after that start a new build to test if a install build passes with such a unmodified spec file and add fixes as needed ... 11:34 < CIA-9> rene * r4707 /trunk/target/bootdisk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): 11:34 < CIA-9> * removed the ROCK ASCII art from the install screens and added 11:34 < CIA-9> a tiny T2 text including URL 11:34 < CIA-9> * fixed package map to deflate all kernels 11:43 < rxr> ah - and a note for google hits, I first thought our bootdisk linuxrc problems are due to -isystem used to pass the include location to gcc and recent gcc versions might be buggy with that option 11:44 < rxr> as I wrote it is just our (ugly anyway) sepc adaption 12:15 < CIA-9> rene * r4708 /trunk/target/bootdisk/config.in: * no syslog-ng for the bootdisk target 12:15 < CIA-9> rene * r4709 /trunk/target/bootdisk/build_stage1.sh: * create one initrd per kernel available 12:21 < CIA-9> rene * r4710 /trunk/target/bootdisk/ (build_stage2.sh config.in): 12:21 < CIA-9> * disabled lilo and grub for the bootdisk target - AFAICS they are 12:21 < CIA-9> not needed 12:24 < CIA-9> rene * r4711 /trunk/target/bootdisk/ (build_stage2.sh config.in): * reenabled lilo - just found out it is used for the floppies ;-) 12:24 < rxr> sorry 12:24 * rxr violating my own written svn commit rules ;-) 12:51 < CIA-9> rene * r4712 /trunk/target/bootdisk/linuxrc2.sh: * some more ROCK vs. T2 bootup tweaks 13:00 < rxr> so - I think with the next commit the x86 boot-cd should be functional again 13:03 < CIA-9> rene * r4713 /trunk/target/bootdisk/ (build_stage1.sh x86/build.sh x86/isolinux.cfg): 13:03 < CIA-9> * the multiple initrd and kernel code needed for x86 (disk disabled 13:03 < CIA-9> until we have a freedos loader replacement) 13:22 < rxr> http://www.cmap.polytechnique.fr/~jouve/xd3d/ 13:27 < rxr> ^- packing anyone? 13:27 < CIA-9> rene * r4714 /trunk/target/bootdisk/ (build_stage1.sh x86/build.sh): 13:27 < CIA-9> * fixed the new x86 install stuff for 8.3 filenames (it seems isolinux 13:27 < CIA-9> is limitted to) - just booted linux24 and linux26 from the new bootcd 13:31 < valentin> rxr: can this xd3d thing plot functions or data only ? 13:31 < rxr> the page says functions ... 13:32 < rxr> I just noticed it on freshmeat - have neither taken a look ... 13:32 < CIA-9> rene * r4715 /trunk/architecture/share/kernel-scsi.conf: 13:32 < CIA-9> * do not fall back to ide-scsi for CD-ROM access anymore 13:32 < CIA-9> (needed for 2.6 and imperfect on 2.4 anyway) 13:32 < valentin> cool = you are right = it can even plot algebraic defined planes 13:32 < valentin> no, it cant 13:32 < valentin> :( 13:33 < rxr> It can plot 2d and 3d meshes, with shadowing, contour plots, vector fields, iso-contour (3d), as well as 3d surfaces z=f(x,y) defined by an algebraic expression or a cloud of points. 13:34 < valentin> sounded to me like plot f(x,y,z)=0 13:34 < valentin> but z=f(x,y) is pure arithmetics 13:40 < rxr> seems I have a CD soon 13:40 < rxr> right now rebuilding the 2.6 system and CD kernels with IDE_CD support ... 13:40 < valentin> arch=x86 ? 13:40 < rxr> yep for now 13:41 < rxr> when I have polished the basics on the athlon I start a build on the rs/6k ... 13:41 < rxr> and sparc is already in progress ... 13:43 < rxr> ~ 13:43 < rxr> right now rebuilding the 2.6 system and CD kernels with IDE_CD support ...~~ 13:54 * rxr shortly away buying some foods ... 13:57 -!- Netsplit saberhagen.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: sparc-kly 13:58 -!- Netsplit over, joins: sparc-kly 14:14 < rxr> re 14:17 -!- sparc-kly [~sparky@65-23-206-136.prtc.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 14:29 -!- sparc-kly [~sparky@65-23-206-136.prtc.net] has joined #t2 14:33 < mnemoc> moin 14:37 < sparc-kly> moin all T2 world 14:37 * sparc-kly go to univ. hehehe . 14:48 -!- _Ragnar__ [loki@abarrach.franken.de] has joined #t2 14:50 -!- _Ragnar_ [loki@abarrach.franken.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:53 -!- kensai [~kensai@64.237.129.108] has joined #t2 15:07 -!- kensai [~kensai@64.237.129.108] has quit ["Oh! my god I closed the IRC"] 15:26 < rxr> I start to rsync the preleminary x86 ISO 15:26 < rxr> Shared: 3988 kB in 2 files 15:26 < rxr> Disk 1: 662080 kB in 6775 files (boot) 15:26 < rxr> Disk 2: 648714 kB in 488 files 15:26 < rxr> Total: 1314782 kB in 7265 files 15:49 < rxr> haha: 15:49 < rxr> 15:52 < daja77> *gg* 15:53 < rxr> oops the reset was on the wrong channel: 15:53 < rxr> 15:48 < rxr> M$ Excel created .html files are cool: 15:53 < rxr> 15:48 < rxr> nadia janjua 15:53 < rxr> 15:48 < rxr> nadia janjua 15:53 < rxr> 15:48 < rxr> 2004-10-28T22:27:40Z 15:53 < rxr> 15:48 < rxr> 2004-09-13T19:13:30Z 15:53 < rxr> 15:48 < rxr> 2004-10-28T23:09:13Z 15:53 < mnemoc> oh 15:54 < valentin> just use your favorite hexeditor to view quicksaved M$ office files ... 15:54 < rxr> I know 15:55 < rxr> but it is rediculous what they even export into .html files ... 15:58 < rxr> out of: 15:58 < rxr> http://www.convergence.com.pk/iax2/trunked.html 16:04 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 16:08 < valentin> anyone here who can tell me sth about legendre-transformations ? 16:08 < jsaw> way too long ago... 16:09 < valentin> hamilton vs lagrange formalism in analytical mechanics ? 16:09 < jsaw> depends 16:09 < valentin> should join a physics channel 16:09 < jsaw> pose the question anyway 16:10 < valentin> i understand they do a legendre trafo of the Lagrange funcrion L(q,dq,t) -> L'(q,p,t) 16:10 < valentin> but i do not see why you get a new physic out of that 16:10 < jsaw> you don't really 16:11 < valentin> just doing a reversable substitution of d/dt q => p 16:11 < jsaw> it's just that u use canonical coordinates 16:11 < jsaw> now 16:11 < valentin> but i lower the order of my differential equations to one 16:12 < jsaw> example: q -> euklidian coordinate, then p -> momentum 16:12 < jsaw> instead of q' -> velocity 16:13 < valentin> but those variables are not indepent with respect to temporal development of the system 16:14 < valentin> i do not understand how they are coupled together after the trafo 16:14 < valentin> the legendre transformation seems to ensure that, but i do not get it 16:15 < jsaw> wait a sec. 16:18 < rxr> valentin: in aprox. 20 min I plan to shut down my athlon in order to stick a DVD into it ... 16:18 < jsaw> so, you mean, dot(q) and p are related? 16:19 < jsaw> p = dL/d dot(q) ??? 16:19 < jsaw> s/d/partial/ 16:20 < jsaw> valentin: fax number? 16:21 < valentin> i just see i get p=dH/dq 16:21 < valentin> jsaw: do not have a fax 16:21 < valentin> but it is ok, i think i need to read deeper into that stuff anyway 16:23 < valentin> with a partial d it is dot(p)=dH/dq , so the Hammiltonian Energy function couples momentum to the movement 16:24 < valentin> dot(q)=dH/dp and dot(p)=-dH/dq 16:33 < rxr> one of my already repaired IBM hard disk is again defect... 16:34 < rxr> good it is part of a raid5 device ... 16:39 < CIA-9> rene * r4716 /trunk/target/bootdisk/x86/help0.txt: 16:39 < CIA-9> * updated the bootdisk target isolinux help text to match current 16:39 < CIA-9> reality (we might want to make that one dynamic, too) 16:50 < rxr> freenx and fedora: http://fedoranews.org/contributors/rick_stout/freenx/ 16:51 < rxr> (google will soon love us ;-) 16:52 -!- kensai [~kensai@64.237.129.108] has joined #t2 16:53 < rxr> hi kensai 16:54 < kensai> rxr, Hi 16:58 < kensai> I can run t2 from my ubuntu installation flawlessly? 16:59 < rxr> kensai: what do you mean with "run"? 17:00 < rxr> kensai: building a new set of isos? just building some packages, etc. ... 17:00 < rxr> ? 17:02 < kensai> yeah just to build a distro] 17:02 < kensai> usingt2 tools 17:04 < rxr> that should be quite straight forward 17:04 < rxr> reminder what I should package soon: freenx: http://debian.tu-bs.de/knoppix/nx/ 17:04 < kensai> Ok 17:04 -!- kensai [~kensai@64.237.129.108] has quit ["Oh! my god I closed the IRC"] 17:07 < rxr> haha: how many platforms nx supports officially: 17:07 < rxr> The 1.4.0 release of NX Server includes support for the following platforms: 17:07 < rxr> - Linux i386 17:07 < rxr> - Solaris SPARC 17:16 < CIA-9> rene * r4717 /trunk/package/x11/ (nxcomp/nxcomp.desc nxproxy/nxproxy.desc): * updated nxcomp (1.3.2-4 -> 1.4.0-29) and nxproxy (1.3.2-1 -> 1.4.0-2) 17:18 -!- praenti [~praenti@mail.obster.org] has quit ["leaving"] 17:18 -!- praenti [~praenti@mail.obster.org] has joined #t2 17:20 < CIA-9> rene * r4718 /trunk/package/x11/nxcomp/gcc34.patch: 17:20 < CIA-9> * improved the nxcomp/gcc34.patch by importing a better fix from 17:20 < CIA-9> FreeBSD (via FreeNX-kNX) 18:09 -!- kensai [~kensai@64.237.129.108] has joined #t2 18:18 < CIA-9> valentin * r4719 /trunk/package/kde/koffice/koffice.conf: * fixed koffice 18:20 < sparc-kly> hi kensai 18:26 -!- menomc [~amery@200.75.27.26] has joined #t2 18:26 -!- menomc is now known as mnemoc_ 18:27 -!- _martin [~martin@brln-d9ba09ea.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:32 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.62] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 18:32 -!- mnemoc_ is now known as mnemoc 18:35 [Users #t2] 18:35 [ _Ragnar__] [ daja77] [ kensai] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ tschmidt_] 18:35 [ CIA-9 ] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ praenti] [ sparc-kly] [ valentin ] 18:35 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal] 18:35 < rxr> rehi mnemoc 18:36 < mnemoc> hi rxr 18:36 < rxr> mnemoc: aside from the diet problem the bootdisk target is fixed now 18:36 < rxr> ISO transfer in progress ... 18:37 < rxr> the diet problem needs a fix of our gcc package - I test a rebuild when I reinstalled my athlon ... 18:37 < mnemoc> :( 18:37 < rxr> in the meantime you could handedit the spec file after a full bootdisk build ... 18:38 < rxr> I really wonder if it works in ROCK Linux - or if they just did not yet fixed the bug - but AFAICS it will not work unless cliffords evil spec file parameter insertion is removed ... 18:38 < rxr> but that was on my todo anyway 18:38 < rxr> so I'll just do it when I'm sure my current ISO works and can be released and I can rebuild the install target ... 18:39 < _Ragnar__> moin 18:39 -!- _Ragnar__ is now known as _Ragnar_ 18:40 < rxr> hi _Ragnar_ 18:40 < _Ragnar_> *lol* 18:41 < _Ragnar_> 'evil spec file parameter insertion' ?:) 18:41 < rxr> yep, and? 18:41 < mnemoc> sounds a bit G* :p 18:50 < rxr> G* what? 18:50 < mnemoc> gentoo 18:51 < rxr> what has it to do with gentoo? 18:52 < mnemoc> as we use wrappers they change spec file and usr CFLAGS 18:52 < rxr> hehe 18:53 < rxr> we already have this spec file hackup for a long time ... 18:53 -!- Minto [~Minto@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 18:55 < kensai> sparc-kly, hi LOL 19:01 < rxr> (but only for the cross compiler ...) 19:02 < rxr> mnemoc: see mailing list - i commented via mail 19:03 < mnemoc> ok 19:04 < rxr> a proof of concept fix does already exist 19:04 < rxr> but you would need to rebuild the 0-* toolchain - and I want to test if it survives a build ... 19:05 * mnemoc wonders who to rebuild only stage-0 :p 19:11 < rxr> rm the log files 19:12 < mnemoc> :p 19:26 -!- kensai [~kensai@64.237.129.108] has quit ["Oh! my god I closed the IRC"] 19:30 -!- _martin [~martin@brln-d9ba25b4.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #t2 19:30 < rxr> hi mnemoc 19:30 < rxr> _martin: 19:30 * rxr needs to learn to press often enough ... 19:30 < mnemoc> =) 19:30 * rxr just installing the freshly burned t2-2.1.0-beta CDs on the build athlon .. 19:31 < sparc-kly> hey i need athlon XP isos :D 19:31 < sparc-kly> lol 19:32 < sparc-kly> i print today t2 handbook in university . 131 pages = $10.48 19:33 < rxr> ouch you have to pay for in this way? 19:33 < rxr> in which country do you live? 19:33 < sparc-kly> Puerto Rico 19:33 < sparc-kly> in caribbean 19:33 < rxr> hm 19:34 < rxr> quite expensive ... 19:34 < sparc-kly> 0.08 is good 19:34 < sparc-kly> per page 19:35 < rxr> installer running ... 19:35 < mnemoc> 0.08 what? 19:35 < rxr> $ it seems 19:35 < mnemoc> i pay 0.03 dollars per printed page 19:37 < rxr> sparc-kly: I hope the handbook is worth it ;-) 19:38 < sparc-kly> 0.03 damn it . i hate PR LOL remember in island cost is very expensive . 19:38 < rxr> e.g. much stuff was recently s/ROCK [^ ]*/ T2/g and such ... 19:39 < sparc-kly> example i pay $40 monthly + telephone Line ( $22 ) for my DSL 256/128 . 19:40 < rxr> sparc-kly: better do not ask how much money I waste for my telephone line (I do not even want to have) and the DSL line (that sucks and I wanted another - not avail in this flat) over here in germany ... 19:40 < mnemoc> less that half of that here :p 19:41 < rxr> for reference and google hits: German Telekom telephone line (enforced on me) the damn t-dsl (I do not wanna have) and the lagging (read high latency) tiscali flat rate ... 19:41 < rxr> in contrast to those way more powerful and not phone-line enforcing qsc q-dsl offers ... 19:42 < rxr> just not available here in the middle of the street - it is in the beginning and at the end - too bad I live in no. 64 ... :-( 19:42 < sparc-kly> i need one 10mps conection :D 19:44 < mnemoc> rxr: http://pyre.third-bit.com/helium/subversion_linux.html <--- can you answer me a question about this? 19:46 < rxr> maybe 19:47 < rxr> mnemoc: what is the question? 19:47 < mnemoc> [calc:/projects/calc] <--- about this 19:48 < mnemoc> on access rules 19:48 < mnemoc> i have /foo as DAV svn 19:49 < mnemoc> can i have the repo at /foo/bar/repo ? instead of /foo/repo directly? 19:51 < mnemoc> uhm ... AuthzSVNAccessFile is not recognized by my module :( 19:55 < rxr> yes this should work 19:58 < valentin> rxr: i know someone who printed his books in turkey 19:58 < valentin> 2 Euro incl multicolored paperback 19:59 < valentin> for ~200p 19:59 < valentin> he printed 1000 books, so he payed 2000 Eur 20:00 < rxr> who? 20:01 < rxr> wow - high tech code from rock folks: 20:02 < rxr> While installing GEM file /mnt/...xemacs-beta-21.5.17.gem (usr/lib/.../files.elc(: Invalid arguemnt) 20:02 < rxr> Error while installing package xemacs-beta! 20:02 < rxr> (hand copied) 20:02 < rxr> xemacs-beta and xemacs-packages failed so far for this mystic reason 20:03 < rxr> we either might like to update mine or downdate ... 20:03 < rxr> extraction finished 20:03 < rxr> jsut the two errors above :-( 20:05 -!- Minto [~Minto@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [] 20:05 < rxr> just even 20:17 -!- Minto [~Minto@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 20:18 < Minto> Hi folks! 20:31 < mnemoc> rxr: problem still present 20:34 -!- Minto [~Minto@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.3/20040910]"] 21:02 -!- valentin [~valentin@port-212-202-42-20.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:47 -!- sparc-kly|home [~mubex@65-23-206-136.prtc.net] has joined #t2 21:48 < sparc-kly|home> hey exactcode.de is down ? 21:59 < rxr> re 21:59 < rxr> really 21:59 < rxr> hm - seems so 22:08 -!- sparc-kly|home [~mubex@65-23-206-136.prtc.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:12 < rxr> sdsl connection down 22:18 -!- kensai [~kensai@64.237.129.108] has joined #t2 22:27 -!- kensai [~kensai@64.237.129.108] has quit ["Oh! my god I closed the IRC"] 22:28 -!- kensai [~kensai@64.237.129.108] has joined #t2 22:50 -!- sparc-kly_ [~sparky@64.237.130.128] has joined #t2 22:51 < sparc-kly_> i hate my dsl 22:51 -!- sparc-kly [~sparky@65-23-206-136.prtc.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 22:52 -!- sparc-kly_ is now known as sparc-kly 22:53 < sparc-kly> very slow browsing wtf :S 23:09 < rxr> mnemoc: is this due to your stuff: 23:09 < rxr> grep: /var/adm/flist/*: No such file or directory 23:09 < rxr> -> INFO: '' detected as INIT 23:15 -!- mtr [~michael@H8eb1.h.pppool.de] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.11"] 23:25 < kensai> sparc-kly, thats 256K dude 23:33 -!- MubeX [~MuBeX@64.237.130.128] has joined #t2 23:33 < rxr> ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-current/PAT-NEEDS-YOUR-HELP.txt 23:37 < daja77> hm does not load 23:41 < rxr> here it did load ... 23:42 < rxr> still does ... 23:42 < rxr> it's the link from: 23:42 < rxr> "Slackware's Pat needs your help 23:42 < rxr> Posted by Eugenia Loli-Queru on 2004-11-16 21:18:02 UTC, submitted by Witek 23:42 < rxr> It was revealed that recent lack of updates of Slackware -Current has been caused by Patrick Volkerding's serious dicease. Read more at here. Pat asks for help." 23:46 < _martin> gn8 all 23:48 < daja77> oh 23:48 < daja77> i liked his rant on gnome ... 23:50 -!- valentin [~valentin@port-212-202-170-162.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #t2 23:59 < valentin> back online :) --- Log closed Wed Nov 17 00:00:12 2004