T2 IRC Log: 2004-10-30
This is the log as captured by an IRC bot in the channel. The statements are those of the individual people and might not neccessarily reflect the policy and legal rules as set forth by the T2 SDE Project.
--- Log opened Sat Oct 30 00:00:57 2004
00:01 < valentin> mnemoc: but this has nothing to do with the glibc issue, does it ?
00:02 < valentin> what target/architecture do you compile ?
00:03 < mnemoc> valentin: yes?
00:03 < mnemoc> bootdisk/pmmx
00:03 < mnemoc> valentin: do i commit --without-__thread?
00:07 < valentin> what exactly does this option change ? disabling pthreads ?
00:07 < mnemoc> no idea o_O
00:08 < mnemoc> that was the suggestion of http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2004-10/msg00074.html
00:08 < valentin> pthreads are quite essential, if you turn them off we will get even more issues
00:08 * mnemoc doing a new fresh build of bootdisk/pmmx
00:09 < mnemoc> (with --without-__thread)
00:09 < valentin> maybe it is ok for bootdisk, but i would 1) evaluate that and 2) ask rene before commiting that
00:10 < mnemoc> ok
00:10 < mnemoc> after bootdisk i'll start a more complete target
00:10 < valentin> but maybe this __thread thing is sth different
00:10 < valentin> ok. Do you use svn:HEAD ?
00:10 < mnemoc> yep
00:11 < valentin> i'll try to start a full desktop build on sparc in a few hours
00:11 < valentin> but now i have to come to bed, otherwise my gf gets angry ...
00:12 < valentin> poor me *g*
00:12 < mnemoc> :)
00:12 < mnemoc> cu tomorrow
00:12 < valentin> cu and gn8
00:13 < mnemoc> gn8 valentin
01:04 < rxr> re
01:21 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.39] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
02:04 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.53] has joined #t2
04:05 -!- blindcod1r [~blindcode@dsl-082-082-102-037.arcor-ip.net] has joined #t2
04:17 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@dsl-213-023-153-084.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)]
04:39 -!- rxr_ [~rene@p213.54.250.176.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2
04:39 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | The System Development Environment | http://www.exactcode.de/t2
04:39 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Fri Oct 29 16:53:31 2004]
04:39 [Users #t2]
04:39 [ _martin__] [ blindcod1r] [ daja77] [ mnemoc_] [ rxr_ ] [ valentin]
04:39 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ CIA-9 ] [ jsaw ] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly]
04:39 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 11 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal]
04:39 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
04:39 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 15 secs
04:45 -!- rxr__ [~rene@p213.54.250.176.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2
04:45 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | The System Development Environment | http://www.exactcode.de/t2
04:45 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Fri Oct 29 16:53:31 2004]
04:45 [Users #t2]
04:45 [ _martin__] [ blindcod1r] [ daja77] [ mnemoc_] [ rxr_ ] [ sparc-kly]
04:45 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ CIA-9 ] [ jsaw ] [ rxr ] [ rxr__] [ valentin ]
04:45 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal]
04:45 -!- rxr_ [~rene@p213.54.250.176.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)]
04:45 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
04:46 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 13 secs
04:51 -!- rxr [~rene@p213.54.219.46.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
04:58 -!- _martin__ [~martin@brln-d9ba00f7.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
06:30 -!- _martin__ [~martin@brln-d9ba02f7.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #t2
07:36 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder
07:40 < _martin__> /user
08:39 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@dsl-082-082-102-037.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["reboot is good"]
08:56 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@dsl-082-082-102-037.arcor-ip.net] has joined #t2
10:24 < rxr__> re
10:24 < rxr__> moin all
10:24 -!- You're now known as rxr
10:29 < blindcoder> moin rxr
10:44 < blindcoder> and here I was, thinking that two implementations of blowfish would be compatible :/
10:44 < rxr> hm?
10:45 < blindcoder> rxr: in LVP, since pkgforking was introduced, the loop-aes patches weren't applied to the kernel anymore. Thus the decrytion of encrypted LVPs resulted in minor errors
10:45 < blindcoder> shifting of a few bits here and there
10:46 < blindcoder> causing major havoc when trying to access the encrypted data :/
10:46 < blindcoder> wrong filenames, screwed up .xml files and so on and so forth
10:47 < blindcoder> but without really failing
11:09 < valentin> moin and happy birthday rxr
11:15 < daja77> happy birthday rxr
11:15 * daja77 waves from dresden
11:16 < valentin> hi daja77, how is the exhibition ?
11:19 < daja77> quite difficult for me, but got breakfast now ;)
12:15 < blindcoder> hi daja77, valentin
12:15 * blindcoder having lunch after ~50 minutes of cooking
12:15 < daja77> giftnuss is here ^^
12:26 < blindcoder> anyone hungry?
12:26 < daja77> <-
12:26 < blindcoder> I still have meat for ~2 people and soup for ~3
12:26 < daja77> bring it to dresden! :)
12:26 < blindcoder> hmm
12:27 < blindcoder> 2.5h driving
12:27 < blindcoder> it would be cold by then
12:27 < daja77> it is already cold
12:27 < blindcoder> ?
12:27 < blindcoder> no
12:27 < daja77> damn cold here
12:27 < daja77> git food anyway ^^
12:28 < blindcoder> :P
12:30 < daja77> hey i thought you had no time today?
12:30 < blindcoder> exactly, I need to be somewhere at 1530
12:30 < valentin> blindcoder: me hungry !!
12:30 < daja77> oh hf then
14:25 < rxr> thanks for all the birthday congratulation ;-)
14:30 * daja77 just got confused for a subversion dev
14:43 < mnemoc_> *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption: 0x080556b0 ***
14:43 < mnemoc_> /ROCK/src.groff.1099097914.5044.3509406419/groff-1.19/src/roff/groff/groff: grn: Aborted
14:43 < mnemoc_> Line -- Unclosed block, footnote, or other diversion (|k)
14:43 < mnemoc_> make[2]: *** [grnexmpl.ps] Error 2
14:43 < mnemoc_> cute, isn't it?
14:44 < rxr> ouch, this is very cute
14:44 < mnemoc_> moin!
14:44 < rxr> moin mnemoc_
14:44 < mnemoc_> moin rxr
14:46 < rxr> mnemoc_: how many new regressions do you have due to the updated glibc?
14:47 < rxr> mnemoc_: I also just started a fresh new x86 build for reference ...
14:48 < mnemoc_> linux24 and binutils on bootdisk
14:48 < mnemoc_> and glibc itself, which i fixed with a --without-__thread
14:49 < rxr> binutils fail ?
14:49 < mnemoc_> stage2
14:50 * mnemoc_ starting a new bootdisk and poordesktop without --without-__thread and last trunk
14:50 < mnemoc_> bbl
15:31 < rxr> I get the same glibc problem on E
15:31 < rxr> HEAD and athlon optimization
15:31 < mnemoc_> undefined _res and _errno?
16:14 < mnemoc_> --without-__thread do not use TLS features even when supporting them
16:14 < mnemoc_> this fixs that, do you see any sideefect?
17:46 -!- madtux [~mike@ip253-10.ct.co.cr] has joined #t2
17:47 < madtux> hola mnemoc
17:47 < mnemoc_> hola
18:01 -!- madtux [~mike@ip253-10.ct.co.cr] has left #t2 []
18:47 < rxr> mnemoc_: go and commit it 18:48 < rxr> ouch valentin switch my keyboard layout to us ... should have been :-) ...
20:06 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
20:52 < mnemoc_> ok
20:55 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r4485 /trunk/package/base/glibc/glibc.conf: * glibc --without-__thread seems to be needed to declare _res and _errno
20:59 < rxr> re
20:59 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r4486 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/mnemosyne.in: * mnemosyne target improved to use pkgsel_parse
21:00 < mnemoc_> bootdisk/pmmx at 3-groff without errors
21:01 < mnemoc_> poordesktop(mnemosyne-based)/pmmx at 1-curl without errors
21:01 < mnemoc_> both pkgsel:O linux24
21:03 < mnemoc_> bootdisk's 3-groff failed again
21:03 < rxr> hi mnemoc_
21:03 < mnemoc_> with the same cute error i shows this morning
21:03 < rxr> this party is fading out right now ...
21:03 < mnemoc_> hi rxr
21:03 < rxr> so I'm at hacking in 20 minutes or so - maybe at least ...
21:03 < mnemoc_> what are you doing pluged on a party?
21:03 < mnemoc_> :)
21:04 < rxr> hm?
21:04 < mnemoc_> hm what?
21:14 < blindcoder> grah, this commit-email.pl is driving me nuts
21:15 < blindcoder> it is absolutely definately totally not suited to be used as e-mail notifier
21:16 < mnemoc_> uhm?
21:17 < blindcoder> after a day of "correcting" that script it finally sends mail halfway reliably
21:18 < blindcoder> when you tag a release, it lists each and every file in the subject (exceeding the 32k limit without a second thought)
21:19 < mnemoc_> o_O
21:20 < blindcoder> o_O indeed
21:45 < rxr> blindcoder: no, it does has this bug here - and a tag should only list one file A tags/bla-bla ...
21:45 < rxr> no idea what you do to your subversion ... :-)
21:56 < rxr> re
21:56 < rxr> so - now a bit hacking before the sleep cycle
21:57 < mnemoc_> groff groff groff :)
21:57 < rxr> well, whether it is groff and not glibc itself is the question ...
21:58 < mnemoc_> i guess groff, but the change was glibc
22:01 < rxr> would be cool if you could look into it ...
22:01 < rxr> I have some other stuff in my queue - first I plan to look into powerpc cross build issues
22:01 < mnemoc_> ok :)
22:02 < rxr> then I have a quite ugly libaudio.so relocation corruption or so in conjunction with k3b on my list (on powerpc) - my brother is already calling once a day to get this bug fixed ... :-(
22:05 < rxr> and in the cross fixing stuff I setup a the regression tester stuff I have here to get my nice graphs and info I did for ROCK - but this time for t2, of course ...
22:05 < rxr> so we get weekly automated stats and recognize regressions earlier ...
22:19 < mnemoc_> cool graphs :)
22:24 < rxr> ok - I start with cleaning
22:24 < rxr> up glibc
22:24 < mnemoc_> cleaning up what?
22:25 < rxr> random config option injection, and nptl vs. non. nptl ...
22:25 < rxr> as well as adding nptl support on the way ...
22:25 < rxr> look at the glibc.conf - it is a historic mess
22:26 < mnemoc_> he
22:34 < rxr> ok - testing new glibc.conf ... ;-)
22:35 < rxr> s/new/a bit cleaned/ of course ;-) not yet a 100% redone - since we want 2.1 soon ...
22:35 < mnemoc_> http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-dev/2004-February/042757.html <--- this is my error
22:35 < mnemoc_> glibc's answer is nicer now
22:37 < mnemoc_> why am i using NTPL? --without-__threads?
22:37 < mnemoc_> NPTL*
22:38 < rxr> hm - according to our config it should not be used in your scenario
22:38 < mnemoc_> bootdisk and poordesktop failed due to the same
22:39 < rxr> in some minutes you get a config option whether to enable nptl ;-)
22:40 < mnemoc_> :D
22:40 < rxr> so you could - if you have the free minutes - test if one of those builds correctly ...
22:41 < mnemoc_> i don't have much time to trace bugs, but i have no problem with Cleanup -full & Build-Target
22:41 < rxr> ok - but this is enought
22:41 < rxr> I ping you when we have the option - and you start two builds ;-)
22:41 < mnemoc_> deal :)
22:48 < rxr> == 10/30/04 22:49:04 =[0]=> Finished building package glibc.
22:50 < mnemoc_> CIA-9?
22:50 < rxr> not committed yet ...
22:53 < rxr> I need a faster AMD box ...
23:02 < rxr> ok - now it is in
23:03 < CIA-9> rene * r4487 /trunk/package/base/glibc/ (config-400.hlp config-400.in glibc.conf):
23:03 < CIA-9> * addd TLS and NPTL support (as config option, default off ...) to glibc
23:03 < CIA-9> * cleanup of glibc.conf on the way (including the deletion of historic
23:03 < CIA-9> noise)
23:03 < CIA-9> * added help texts on the way
23:03 < rxr> mnemoc_: ok - do not yet test it - I just got an error .. - mom
23:03 * mnemoc_ waiting...
23:04 < rxr> might take some minutes - just continue coding whatever you did right now ;-)
23:04 < mnemoc_> =)
23:09 < rxr> hm
23:10 < rxr> do you have a non-rock and non-t2 box somewhere (e.g. suse redhat whatever)?
23:11 < rxr> I need to review s.th. ...
23:13 < mnemoc_> none
23:13 < mnemoc_> only rock around
23:15 < mnemoc_> OT: can i have more than one config*.in on a package?
23:15 < rxr> hm - and the freebsd box on the uni cot reinstalled and I have no new account yet :-(
23:16 < rxr> yes, it should be possible - if it does not work it is a bug that should be fixed ...
23:18 < rxr> hm - I just browse the debian package site
23:18 < rxr> the debian packages suck majorly - parts of normal packages are that ugly spread over several sub-packages :-(
23:20 < mnemoc_> debian need to use a DBK :
23:20 < mnemoc_> or SDE as you named it
23:21 < rxr> distribution is very misleading
23:22 < rxr> we noticed this on the linux world expo - most people think about boxed cd's only when you talk about it
23:22 < rxr> and s.th. you pass around, s.th. to "distribute"
23:22 < rxr> in fact the output of s.th. like t2 is often y
23:22 < rxr> oops
23:22 < rxr> s.th. you do not distribute at all
23:23 < rxr> run on in-house servers or deeply hidden in embedded products ..
23:26 < mnemoc_> gentoo is a system development enviroment
23:26 < rxr> why? gentoo is just a source distribution *g* ;-)
23:32 < CIA-9> rene * r4488 /trunk/package/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
23:32 < CIA-9> * tweaked the priority of the linux24* packages to build after linux26
23:32 < CIA-9> (and also glibc) so *libc broken builds stop earlier during debugging ;-)
23:32 < rxr> ok - due to ugly cross build errors gcc.conf also gets a tiny facelift of historic clifford hacks ...
23:36 < rxr> the glibc hackers must drink quite a lot while hacking - at least during configure crap hacking ...
23:37 < mnemoc_> if you remove the 'redistribution' of the built system, almost any source based distro fit
23:37 < mnemoc_> tell when can i start
23:38 < rxr> needs some more work ...
23:38 < rxr> are you in a hury?
23:38 < rxr> e.g. leaving soon or so?
23:41 < mnemoc_> no :)
23:41 < mnemoc_> just teasing you
23:42 < rxr> I'm working hard on the base c compiler and lib build code
23:58 < rxr> .oO
--- Log closed Sun Oct 31 00:00:11 2004
00:01 < valentin> mnemoc: but this has nothing to do with the glibc issue, does it ?
00:02 < valentin> what target/architecture do you compile ?
00:03 < mnemoc> valentin: yes?
00:03 < mnemoc> bootdisk/pmmx
00:03 < mnemoc> valentin: do i commit --without-__thread?
00:07 < valentin> what exactly does this option change ? disabling pthreads ?
00:07 < mnemoc> no idea o_O
00:08 < mnemoc> that was the suggestion of http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2004-10/msg00074.html
00:08 < valentin> pthreads are quite essential, if you turn them off we will get even more issues
00:08 * mnemoc doing a new fresh build of bootdisk/pmmx
00:09 < mnemoc> (with --without-__thread)
00:09 < valentin> maybe it is ok for bootdisk, but i would 1) evaluate that and 2) ask rene before commiting that
00:10 < mnemoc> ok
00:10 < mnemoc> after bootdisk i'll start a more complete target
00:10 < valentin> but maybe this __thread thing is sth different
00:10 < valentin> ok. Do you use svn:HEAD ?
00:10 < mnemoc> yep
00:11 < valentin> i'll try to start a full desktop build on sparc in a few hours
00:11 < valentin> but now i have to come to bed, otherwise my gf gets angry ...
00:12 < valentin> poor me *g*
00:12 < mnemoc> :)
00:12 < mnemoc> cu tomorrow
00:12 < valentin> cu and gn8
00:13 < mnemoc> gn8 valentin
01:04 < rxr> re
01:21 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.39] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
02:04 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.53] has joined #t2
04:05 -!- blindcod1r [~blindcode@dsl-082-082-102-037.arcor-ip.net] has joined #t2
04:17 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@dsl-213-023-153-084.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)]
04:39 -!- rxr_ [~rene@p213.54.250.176.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2
04:39 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | The System Development Environment | http://www.exactcode.de/t2
04:39 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Fri Oct 29 16:53:31 2004]
04:39 [Users #t2]
04:39 [ _martin__] [ blindcod1r] [ daja77] [ mnemoc_] [ rxr_ ] [ valentin]
04:39 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ CIA-9 ] [ jsaw ] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly]
04:39 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 11 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal]
04:39 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
04:39 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 15 secs
04:45 -!- rxr__ [~rene@p213.54.250.176.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2
04:45 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | The System Development Environment | http://www.exactcode.de/t2
04:45 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Fri Oct 29 16:53:31 2004]
04:45 [Users #t2]
04:45 [ _martin__] [ blindcod1r] [ daja77] [ mnemoc_] [ rxr_ ] [ sparc-kly]
04:45 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ CIA-9 ] [ jsaw ] [ rxr ] [ rxr__] [ valentin ]
04:45 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal]
04:45 -!- rxr_ [~rene@p213.54.250.176.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)]
04:45 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
04:46 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 13 secs
04:51 -!- rxr [~rene@p213.54.219.46.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
04:58 -!- _martin__ [~martin@brln-d9ba00f7.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
06:30 -!- _martin__ [~martin@brln-d9ba02f7.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #t2
07:36 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder
07:40 < _martin__> /user
08:39 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@dsl-082-082-102-037.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["reboot is good"]
08:56 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@dsl-082-082-102-037.arcor-ip.net] has joined #t2
10:24 < rxr__> re
10:24 < rxr__> moin all
10:24 -!- You're now known as rxr
10:29 < blindcoder> moin rxr
10:44 < blindcoder> and here I was, thinking that two implementations of blowfish would be compatible :/
10:44 < rxr> hm?
10:45 < blindcoder> rxr: in LVP, since pkgforking was introduced, the loop-aes patches weren't applied to the kernel anymore. Thus the decrytion of encrypted LVPs resulted in minor errors
10:45 < blindcoder> shifting of a few bits here and there
10:46 < blindcoder> causing major havoc when trying to access the encrypted data :/
10:46 < blindcoder> wrong filenames, screwed up .xml files and so on and so forth
10:47 < blindcoder> but without really failing
11:09 < valentin> moin and happy birthday rxr
11:15 < daja77> happy birthday rxr
11:15 * daja77 waves from dresden
11:16 < valentin> hi daja77, how is the exhibition ?
11:19 < daja77> quite difficult for me, but got breakfast now ;)
12:15 < blindcoder> hi daja77, valentin
12:15 * blindcoder having lunch after ~50 minutes of cooking
12:15 < daja77> giftnuss is here ^^
12:26 < blindcoder> anyone hungry?
12:26 < daja77> <-
12:26 < blindcoder> I still have meat for ~2 people and soup for ~3
12:26 < daja77> bring it to dresden! :)
12:26 < blindcoder> hmm
12:27 < blindcoder> 2.5h driving
12:27 < blindcoder> it would be cold by then
12:27 < daja77> it is already cold
12:27 < blindcoder> ?
12:27 < blindcoder> no
12:27 < daja77> damn cold here
12:27 < daja77> git food anyway ^^
12:28 < blindcoder> :P
12:30 < daja77> hey i thought you had no time today?
12:30 < blindcoder> exactly, I need to be somewhere at 1530
12:30 < valentin> blindcoder: me hungry !!
12:30 < daja77> oh hf then
14:25 < rxr> thanks for all the birthday congratulation ;-)
14:30 * daja77 just got confused for a subversion dev
14:43 < mnemoc_> *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption: 0x080556b0 ***
14:43 < mnemoc_> /ROCK/src.groff.1099097914.5044.3509406419/groff-1.19/src/roff/groff/groff: grn: Aborted
14:43 < mnemoc_> Line -- Unclosed block, footnote, or other diversion (|k)
14:43 < mnemoc_> make[2]: *** [grnexmpl.ps] Error 2
14:43 < mnemoc_> cute, isn't it?
14:44 < rxr> ouch, this is very cute
14:44 < mnemoc_> moin!
14:44 < rxr> moin mnemoc_
14:44 < mnemoc_> moin rxr
14:46 < rxr> mnemoc_: how many new regressions do you have due to the updated glibc?
14:47 < rxr> mnemoc_: I also just started a fresh new x86 build for reference ...
14:48 < mnemoc_> linux24 and binutils on bootdisk
14:48 < mnemoc_> and glibc itself, which i fixed with a --without-__thread
14:49 < rxr> binutils fail ?
14:49 < mnemoc_> stage2
14:50 * mnemoc_ starting a new bootdisk and poordesktop without --without-__thread and last trunk
14:50 < mnemoc_> bbl
15:31 < rxr> I get the same glibc problem on E
15:31 < rxr> HEAD and athlon optimization
15:31 < mnemoc_> undefined _res and _errno?
16:14 < mnemoc_> --without-__thread do not use TLS features even when supporting them
16:14 < mnemoc_> this fixs that, do you see any sideefect?
17:46 -!- madtux [~mike@ip253-10.ct.co.cr] has joined #t2
17:47 < madtux> hola mnemoc
17:47 < mnemoc_> hola
18:01 -!- madtux [~mike@ip253-10.ct.co.cr] has left #t2 []
18:47 < rxr> mnemoc_: go and commit it 18:48 < rxr> ouch valentin switch my keyboard layout to us ... should have been :-) ...
20:06 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
20:52 < mnemoc_> ok
20:55 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r4485 /trunk/package/base/glibc/glibc.conf: * glibc --without-__thread seems to be needed to declare _res and _errno
20:59 < rxr> re
20:59 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r4486 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/mnemosyne.in: * mnemosyne target improved to use pkgsel_parse
21:00 < mnemoc_> bootdisk/pmmx at 3-groff without errors
21:01 < mnemoc_> poordesktop(mnemosyne-based)/pmmx at 1-curl without errors
21:01 < mnemoc_> both pkgsel:O linux24
21:03 < mnemoc_> bootdisk's 3-groff failed again
21:03 < rxr> hi mnemoc_
21:03 < mnemoc_> with the same cute error i shows this morning
21:03 < rxr> this party is fading out right now ...
21:03 < mnemoc_> hi rxr
21:03 < rxr> so I'm at hacking in 20 minutes or so - maybe at least ...
21:03 < mnemoc_> what are you doing pluged on a party?
21:03 < mnemoc_> :)
21:04 < rxr> hm?
21:04 < mnemoc_> hm what?
21:14 < blindcoder> grah, this commit-email.pl is driving me nuts
21:15 < blindcoder> it is absolutely definately totally not suited to be used as e-mail notifier
21:16 < mnemoc_> uhm?
21:17 < blindcoder> after a day of "correcting" that script it finally sends mail halfway reliably
21:18 < blindcoder> when you tag a release, it lists each and every file in the subject (exceeding the 32k limit without a second thought)
21:19 < mnemoc_> o_O
21:20 < blindcoder> o_O indeed
21:45 < rxr> blindcoder: no, it does has this bug here - and a tag should only list one file A tags/bla-bla ...
21:45 < rxr> no idea what you do to your subversion ... :-)
21:56 < rxr> re
21:56 < rxr> so - now a bit hacking before the sleep cycle
21:57 < mnemoc_> groff groff groff :)
21:57 < rxr> well, whether it is groff and not glibc itself is the question ...
21:58 < mnemoc_> i guess groff, but the change was glibc
22:01 < rxr> would be cool if you could look into it ...
22:01 < rxr> I have some other stuff in my queue - first I plan to look into powerpc cross build issues
22:01 < mnemoc_> ok :)
22:02 < rxr> then I have a quite ugly libaudio.so relocation corruption or so in conjunction with k3b on my list (on powerpc) - my brother is already calling once a day to get this bug fixed ... :-(
22:05 < rxr> and in the cross fixing stuff I setup a the regression tester stuff I have here to get my nice graphs and info I did for ROCK - but this time for t2, of course ...
22:05 < rxr> so we get weekly automated stats and recognize regressions earlier ...
22:19 < mnemoc_> cool graphs :)
22:24 < rxr> ok - I start with cleaning
22:24 < rxr> up glibc
22:24 < mnemoc_> cleaning up what?
22:25 < rxr> random config option injection, and nptl vs. non. nptl ...
22:25 < rxr> as well as adding nptl support on the way ...
22:25 < rxr> look at the glibc.conf - it is a historic mess
22:26 < mnemoc_> he
22:34 < rxr> ok - testing new glibc.conf ... ;-)
22:35 < rxr> s/new/a bit cleaned/ of course ;-) not yet a 100% redone - since we want 2.1 soon ...
22:35 < mnemoc_> http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-dev/2004-February/042757.html <--- this is my error
22:35 < mnemoc_> glibc's answer is nicer now
22:37 < mnemoc_> why am i using NTPL? --without-__threads?
22:37 < mnemoc_> NPTL*
22:38 < rxr> hm - according to our config it should not be used in your scenario
22:38 < mnemoc_> bootdisk and poordesktop failed due to the same
22:39 < rxr> in some minutes you get a config option whether to enable nptl ;-)
22:40 < mnemoc_> :D
22:40 < rxr> so you could - if you have the free minutes - test if one of those builds correctly ...
22:41 < mnemoc_> i don't have much time to trace bugs, but i have no problem with Cleanup -full & Build-Target
22:41 < rxr> ok - but this is enought
22:41 < rxr> I ping you when we have the option - and you start two builds ;-)
22:41 < mnemoc_> deal :)
22:48 < rxr> == 10/30/04 22:49:04 =[0]=> Finished building package glibc.
22:50 < mnemoc_> CIA-9?
22:50 < rxr> not committed yet ...
22:53 < rxr> I need a faster AMD box ...
23:02 < rxr> ok - now it is in
23:03 < CIA-9> rene * r4487 /trunk/package/base/glibc/ (config-400.hlp config-400.in glibc.conf):
23:03 < CIA-9> * addd TLS and NPTL support (as config option, default off ...) to glibc
23:03 < CIA-9> * cleanup of glibc.conf on the way (including the deletion of historic
23:03 < CIA-9> noise)
23:03 < CIA-9> * added help texts on the way
23:03 < rxr> mnemoc_: ok - do not yet test it - I just got an error .. - mom
23:03 * mnemoc_ waiting...
23:04 < rxr> might take some minutes - just continue coding whatever you did right now ;-)
23:04 < mnemoc_> =)
23:09 < rxr> hm
23:10 < rxr> do you have a non-rock and non-t2 box somewhere (e.g. suse redhat whatever)?
23:11 < rxr> I need to review s.th. ...
23:13 < mnemoc_> none
23:13 < mnemoc_> only rock around
23:15 < mnemoc_> OT: can i have more than one config*.in on a package?
23:15 < rxr> hm - and the freebsd box on the uni cot reinstalled and I have no new account yet :-(
23:16 < rxr> yes, it should be possible - if it does not work it is a bug that should be fixed ...
23:18 < rxr> hm - I just browse the debian package site
23:18 < rxr> the debian packages suck majorly - parts of normal packages are that ugly spread over several sub-packages :-(
23:20 < mnemoc_> debian need to use a DBK :
23:20 < mnemoc_> or SDE as you named it
23:21 < rxr> distribution is very misleading
23:22 < rxr> we noticed this on the linux world expo - most people think about boxed cd's only when you talk about it
23:22 < rxr> and s.th. you pass around, s.th. to "distribute"
23:22 < rxr> in fact the output of s.th. like t2 is often y
23:22 < rxr> oops
23:22 < rxr> s.th. you do not distribute at all
23:23 < rxr> run on in-house servers or deeply hidden in embedded products ..
23:26 < mnemoc_> gentoo is a system development enviroment
23:26 < rxr> why? gentoo is just a source distribution *g* ;-)
23:32 < CIA-9> rene * r4488 /trunk/package/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
23:32 < CIA-9> * tweaked the priority of the linux24* packages to build after linux26
23:32 < CIA-9> (and also glibc) so *libc broken builds stop earlier during debugging ;-)
23:32 < rxr> ok - due to ugly cross build errors gcc.conf also gets a tiny facelift of historic clifford hacks ...
23:36 < rxr> the glibc hackers must drink quite a lot while hacking - at least during configure crap hacking ...
23:37 < mnemoc_> if you remove the 'redistribution' of the built system, almost any source based distro fit
23:37 < mnemoc_> tell when can i start
23:38 < rxr> needs some more work ...
23:38 < rxr> are you in a hury?
23:38 < rxr> e.g. leaving soon or so?
23:41 < mnemoc_> no :)
23:41 < mnemoc_> just teasing you
23:42 < rxr> I'm working hard on the base c compiler and lib build code
23:58 < rxr> .oO
--- Log closed Sun Oct 31 00:00:11 2004