--- Log opened Thu Oct 21 00:00:51 2004 07:05 -!- rxr [~rene@p213.54.197.41.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 07:05 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | http://www.exactcode.de/oss/t2 | lim (t -> 2.1.0) err (t) = 0 | Have fun! 07:05 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Tue Oct 19 00:33:31 2004] 07:05 [Users #t2] 07:05 [ blindcod1r] [ jsaw ] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 07:05 [ CIA-9 ] [ mnemoc_] [ sparc-kly] 07:05 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 7 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 7 normal] 07:05 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 07:05 -!- [freenode-info] please register your nickname...don't forget to auto-identify! http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 07:05 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 6 secs 07:05 < rxr> re 07:05 < rxr> hm - my DSL did not reconnect in the night ... 07:07 < rxr> anyway - moin ;-) 07:08 < rxr> wow - I can now click any window transparent ... 08:32 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 08:32 < blindcoder> moin 08:34 < rxr> moin 08:36 < blindcoder> moin rxr, how is it? 08:37 < rxr> what? 08:37 < blindcoder> everything \ 08:37 < blindcoder> :-) 08:38 < rxr> hehe - well, macosx sucks majorly ... 08:38 < rxr> the USB stuff even more then in linux ... :-( 08:38 < rxr> but the rest is all right 08:38 < rxr> a bit overworked due to linux world expo heading up ... 08:38 < blindcoder> what's the problem with USB? 08:38 < blindcoder> I only had a problem once because of my own mistake 08:39 < blindcoder> yeah, that's an awful lot of work I think 08:40 < rxr> that the damn USB state machine in the kernel crashes on every package here and there it does not like, maybe? 08:40 < rxr> also the UHCI driver is just shit - half of the drivers do not work with it ... 08:40 < rxr> but execpt that ... 08:40 < rxr> but on macosx the usb subsystem locks up even easier, sooo Linux is not that bad ... 08:40 < rxr> I even managed to freeze the damn osx kernel yesterday ... 08:41 < rxr> the screen is dimmed then and a graphical information in 4 or 5 languages is blended in that notes that "the system is froozen and needs to be restarted" or so ;-) 08:41 < rxr> so at lesat it is a graphical way to panic ... 08:43 < blindcoder> wow ;-) 08:44 < rxr> for some scanners I adapt my driver to I need to reboot linux on every driver adaption round due to locked up usb subsystem of linux ... 08:44 < blindcoder> well, my main problem was creating mountpoints for usb-sticks and hds on the fly 08:44 -!- martin [~martin@brln-d9ba1ed1.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #t2 08:44 < blindcoder> but I made a booboo that caused rm -rf /mnt/ on occassion :/ 08:44 < rxr> why the hell does the libusb CVS wants X ... 08:44 < martin> moin 08:44 < blindcoder> moin martin 08:44 < martin> hi blindcoder rxr 08:45 < rxr> hm - with my hacked configure libusb CVS compiles without X, too ... 08:46 < blindcoder> argh, xscreensaver still needs tho old gtk+12 08:46 * rxr going to reboot osx, since the usb subsystem is locked up for both of my usb ports ... 08:49 < rxr> re 08:49 < blindcoder> wb 08:54 < rxr> hm - ok - new test scan ... 08:54 < rxr> annoying that even with just sending two simple usb packages the usb subsystem still get's confused from time to time ... 09:00 < rxr> yeah yeah yeah 09:00 < rxr> got a successful scan out of the Avision scanner under macosx .. 09:00 < rxr> although it is for some very strange reason dog slow ... - and the usb subsystem sometimes get's confused on very simple packages in the beginning of the communication ... 09:02 < rxr> hm - cool - at least the Apple integration preview applicatoin has a cool graphical representation of the selection ... 09:03 < rxr> ~$ du -csh avision.* 09:03 < rxr> 158M avision.log 09:03 < rxr> 30M avision.tiff 09:03 < rxr> 189M total 09:04 < rxr> shit - just forgot how ugly vi is implemented and opened a 158MB file with it ... 09:07 < blindcoder> ouch 09:10 < rxr> /t2 in my osx get's more populated each day .... 09:11 < blindcoder> :) 09:54 < rxr> shit 09:54 < rxr> it was not too smart to place my own stuff into /t2 ... 09:54 < blindcoder> such a hard word for such a soft mass :) 09:54 < rxr> now I can not select it in Xcode for inclusion ... 09:56 < rxr> this osx and xcode get the hell out of me ... 09:57 < rxr> how can an semii automated tool be so stupid not to find it's own Carbon/Carbon.h ... 09:58 < rxr> damn hell - I added the damn Carbon.framwork to the External Frameworks and Libraries - what else does this damn piece of crap want ... 10:01 < rxr> more annoying is that it works in my other test project ... 10:01 < rxr> ok so: 10:02 < rxr> - write a new USB stack 10:02 < rxr> - write a new OS 10:02 < rxr> - write a new editor 10:02 < rxr> or so .. 10:02 < rxr> for point first, redesign C++ and do not allow s.th. else in that newOS 10:04 < rxr> at least i was able to add /t2 ... 10:04 < rxr> so my own SANE stuff works - and the damn carbon crap shipped with osx does not - wonderful ... 10:05 < rxr> I think I get off to the bakery and do a 2nd breakfast before I continue to look at this crap ... 10:07 < rxr> hm - and there is a signal not correctly connected in xcode - when the external frame and lib stuff is changed the gui representation is not updated ... - how annoying - I thoght osx is about godd visualization and usability ... 10:14 < rxr> what the hell?!?!?! my other exampel test does compile, even why I remove the carbon framework from the external framework lists ... 10:14 < rxr> oh my :-( 10:20 < rxr> .oO(this shit fucking crap ...) 10:21 < rxr> it did not worked because the project file contained "cross compile for 10.3" - after changing to "current" it worked ... 10:21 < rxr> althought I have no clue what the difference should be since i run 10.3 ... 10:22 < rxr> hey - but to say s.th. good - the error message indication in the source browser is cool 10:26 < rxr> hm - ok - now I get a clue of to use this IDE, but this UI is far from beeing intuitive ... 10:27 -!- daja77 [[8x+RrxJe6@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has joined #t2 10:50 < rxr> hm - this is new, too: 10:50 < rxr> scanimage -L 10:50 < rxr> ep_to_pipeRef: an error occurred getting pipe information on pipe 1 11:43 < rxr> so - /me finally back in the beloved linux ;-) 12:32 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@p508EB25F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 13:43 < rxr> since we still have no final perfect project name we need a T2 logo for our PR @ Linux World Expo. 13:43 < rxr> logo idea here: 13:43 < rxr> http://exactcode.de/rene/t2-logo.png 13:43 < rxr> open for comments 13:59 < blindcoder> that looks more like T^2 14:08 < rxr> yeah - as it was intended ;-) 14:08 < blindcoder> oh, okay then :) 14:57 < CIA-9> jsaw * r4424 /trunk/package/gnome2/ (memprof/ nautilus-gtkhtml/): * remove outdated gnome pkgs: memprof, nautilus-gtkhtml 14:59 < CIA-9> jsaw * r4425 /trunk/package/gnome2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): * disable libbnobobo{,ui}mm for now, not sure if this is already in gtkmm 15:48 < CIA-9> rene * r4426 /trunk/package/x11/xorg/stone_mod_xorg.sh: 15:48 < CIA-9> Stepan Kasal 15:48 < CIA-9> * fixed stone_mod_xorg.sh, to store the commands of window and display 15:48 < CIA-9> managers with quotes, they may contain parameters 15:53 < CIA-9> rene * r4427 /trunk/package/ (5 files in 4 dirs): 15:53 < CIA-9> * removed -nodaemon from the inittab as well as the hack from the 15:53 < CIA-9> startxdm multiplexer 15:53 < CIA-9> * let the various display manager register the display managers with 15:53 < CIA-9> the correct choice specified 16:13 < CIA-9> jsaw * r4428 /trunk/package/themes/ (3 files in 3 dirs): * noia and crystal icons theme install path fix 16:16 < CIA-9> jsaw * r4429 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnumeric/ (gnumeric.desc hotfix.patch): 16:16 < CIA-9> * update gnumeric (1.3.1 -> 1.3.91) 16:16 < CIA-9> * remove hotfix.patc 16:54 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@p508EB25F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Verlassend"] 17:07 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@p508EB25F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 17:28 < CIA-9> rene * r4430 /trunk/package/x11/xorg/stone_mod_xorg.sh: 17:28 < CIA-9> Stepan Kasal : 17:28 < CIA-9> * replaced $@ with $* in stone_mod_xorg.sh 17:48 < martin> re hi 17:50 < rxr> 2hi martin 18:09 < CIA-9> jsaw * r4431 /trunk/package/develop/stlport/stlport.desc: 18:09 < CIA-9> * stlport: change licence to sth. t2 accepts 18:09 < CIA-9> -> now that stlport builds, I can start working on ooo 18:09 < CIA-9> again 18:13 < blindcoder> rehi 18:41 -!- kensai [~kensai@sanjuan-196-42-14-85.coqui.net] has joined #t2 18:44 -!- tschmidt_ [~tschmidt@pD95F8A50.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 18:45 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@p508EB25F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 18:46 -!- tschmidt_ is now known as nzg 19:00 -!- kensai [~kensai@sanjuan-196-42-14-85.coqui.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:19 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@pD95F8A50.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Verlassend"] 20:45 -!- _Ragnar_ [loki@66-146-166-62.skyriver.net] has joined #t2 20:46 < _Ragnar_> heya 21:42 < rxr> hi _Ragnar_ 21:45 < _Ragnar_> hi rxr ;) how's it goin? 21:47 < rxr> oh - quite well 21:47 < rxr> a bit overworked with commercial stuff and linux world expo PR preparations and such ... 21:48 < _Ragnar_> aww 22:19 < CIA-9> jsaw * r4432 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnocl/ ( gnocl.conf gnocl.desc): * add package gnocl (gnome tcl bindings) 22:20 -!- madtux [~mike@ip253-10.ct.co.cr] has joined #t2 22:20 < mnemoc_> jsaw: jsaw skencil :) 22:20 < mnemoc_> s/jsaw // 22:42 < CIA-9> rene * r4433 /trunk/package/gnome2/gaim/gaim.desc: * updated gaim (1.0.0 -> 1.0.2) 22:42 < rxr> hi mnemoc_ 22:42 < mnemoc_> hi rxr 22:42 [Users #t2] 22:42 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ CIA-9 ] [ jsaw ] [ martin ] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 22:42 [ blindcoder] [ daja77] [ madtux] [ mnemoc_] [ sparc-kly] 22:42 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 11 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal] 22:43 < rxr> jsaw: evolution 2.0.2 is out ;-) 22:45 < rxr> mnemoc_: http://exactcode.de/rene/t2-logo.png ;-) 22:46 < mnemoc_> then t^2 will be the official name? 22:52 < rxr> no - we just needed s.th. for the linux world expo papers ... ;-) 22:57 < mnemoc_> hehe 22:57 < rxr> btw, http://svn.exactcode.de/ does include rock svn stats as background fill in the graph ... 22:59 < CIA-9> rene * r4434 /trunk/package/gnome2/gthumb/ (gthumb.cache gthumb.desc): * updated gthumb (2.4.1 -> 2.6.0) 22:59 < mnemoc_> i think you should split that graphic 22:59 < mnemoc_> high rate in one, and low rate in another 22:59 < rxr> yeah - one day, when I have plenty of free time I split it ;-) 22:59 < mnemoc_> hehe 23:00 < rxr> interesting to see the submaster jornal commit storms ;-) 23:01 < mnemoc_> yeah 23:04 < jsaw> skencil??? 23:04 < jsaw> ah, program. 23:05 < jsaw> -> TODO 23:08 < mnemoc_> yes :) 23:08 < jsaw> rxr: evo 2.0.2 -> TODO 23:09 < rxr> ;-) 23:09 < rxr> I updated and tested some tinyier apps ... 23:10 < mnemoc_> UML question, if i have an 'asociation' from A to B, B.id is a an attribute of A or i should only add the arrow? 23:14 < CIA-9> jsaw * r4435 /trunk/package/network/pam_ldap/ (pam_ldap.conf pam_ldap.desc): 23:14 < CIA-9> * update pam_ldap (169-176) 23:14 < CIA-9> * fix installation path of pam_ldap.so (/lib/security) 23:14 < CIA-9> * tell pam_ldap where the real ldap.conf is (/etc/$pkg_openldap_prefix) 23:14 < CIA-9> * copy pam.d/* to the docs 23:49 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.26] has joined #t2 --- Log closed Fri Oct 22 00:00:05 2004